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zilllii Squirrel Power	Posted - 2007.10.06 14:24:00 - [151] Originally by: Kai Lae LOL at europeans for having to tolerate stuff like this hehe. I've never even heard of anything remotely like this before from anywhere. not every european have to suffer through this type of ISP's. i am quite happy with my 100/100 connection and have no traffic costs either just a monthly fee. -------------------------------------------------- Originally by: Flinx Evenstar Love the new need for speed initiative. Pilots involved in a fleet battle can post on the forum and get a reply about wha
Demure Guise	Posted - 2007.10.06 19:30:00 - [152] Tiscali truly and utterly blows chunks. They couldn't organise an orgy in a brothel. They are also blocking access to Usenet for some reason known only to them and the pea-brained, slack-jawed techs they employ.
Kayosoni Caldari Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.10.06 19:44:00 - [153] LOL damn, guess I should be thankful for my relatively slow-speed US dsl, but no throttling and stuff here. ----------------------------------- btw, threatening to close 1 account really hurt my eyes. - xaioguai
Kw4h Dragon's Rage Intrepid Crossing	Posted - 2007.10.06 20:16:00 - [154] Originally by: Kai Lae LOL at europeans for having to tolerate stuff like this hehe. I've never even heard of anything remotely like this before from anywhere. Not even the p2p traffic shaping currently in the US? I find this quite lame tbh. If they want to lower the use of their network they should ban youtube. Not randomly block gaming ports. _ Planet Sight Wallpaper - EvE map
breadcat	Posted - 2007.10.06 20:30:00 - [155] Originally by: Kai Lae LOL at europeans for having to tolerate stuff like this hehe. I've never even heard of anything remotely like this before from anywhere. england != europe ......
Andrue Amarr	Posted - 2007.10.06 20:38:00 - [156] Edited by: Andrue on 06/10/2007 20:44:24 Originally by: Kai Lae LOL at europeans for having to tolerate stuff like this hehe. I've never even heard of anything remotely like this before from anywhere. Well that's big of you - it's nice to know that we can count on you for your sympathy In point of fact people only suffer this if they choose to opt for the cheapest service they can find. Tiscali is one of a handful of ISPs that have a somewhat tarnished reputation. They are a mass market ISP that is determined to seize market share by keeping prices low rather than improving their service. The UK situation is slightly different from a lot of Europe though. Most of the ISP don't actually own the connection between the customer and their own network but instead rely on British Telecom to deliver the traffic. Now BT has more network capacity than it knows what to do with but the ISPs are often unwilling to pay for it. Ironically in part it's because our regulator won't let BT drop prices for fear of damaging the competition Unlike a lot of countries the UK doesn't have a killer bandwidth hogging application that everyone wants. IPTV is pretty much irrelevant because we've had a national satellite service for nearly two decades and cable in a lot of places for long. As a result most subscribers just don't need anything better than a couple of Mb/s and so the impetous to offer more is low. Most of the people demanding highspeed in the UK (probably less than 20% of subscribers) are exactly the kind of bandwidth-hogging, download junkies that ISPs despise. At only 20% of revenue they take over 80% of capacity which makes them a bit of a nuisance Anyway you probably didn't want to know all that. People just need to pay a little more and sign up for a better ISP. There's a helluva choice in the UK -- (Battle hardened industrialist) [Brackley, UK] My budgie can say "ploppy bottom". You have been warned.
Krogan Ukone Minmatar Kyrgyz-Kazakh	Posted - 2007.10.09 21:03:00 - [157] Edited by: Krogan Ukone on 09/10/2007 21:03:18 I find this situation INTOLERABLE I PAY to use this service, labelled as `unlimited` to do with which I please, namely Eve Online. TO ALL EVE ONLINE USERS WITH TISCALI: Change ISP as soon as possible and remove your custom, these people are blatently taking your hard earned cash and restricing internet access! TO TISCALI: I hope you take the time to read these forums and realise how displeased your customers are with the fraudulent way you block access to this game (and others). I hope your business sinks faster than the Titanic and I for one will be collecting my MAC and telling everyone I know how misleading and down right deceptive your service provision is.
Yesh The Black Rabbits The Gurlstas Associates	Posted - 2007.10.09 21:26:00 - [158] Originally by: Krogan Ukone Edited by: Krogan Ukone on 09/10/2007 21:03:18 TO ALL EVE ONLINE USERS WITH TISCALI: Change ISP as soon as possible and remove your custom, these people are blatently taking your hard earned cash and restricing internet access! . Agreed, but be aware if you change before your contract is complete they will charge you as if you have stayed for the whole contract. Not sure if this applies after you have served a whole years sentence. I will phone to find out tomorrow, but I expect they will just ask if my modem is plugged into the phone socket before passing my query to the next level and ultimately telling me it is BT's fault.
Jinx Barker GFB Scientific	Posted - 2007.10.09 21:33:00 - [159] When I lived in the UK, for many years (recently moved back to US) we had Tiscali and Pipex - what a LOAD OF CRAP THAT WAS. I was incredulous at their incompetence and their inability to solve my most basic issues. Anyway, I know what you fellas going through. Thank god for my cable internet here, no throttling, no limiting bandwidth, and soon we have fiber-optics coming, they are laying down the cables in the neighborhoods here as we speak - speed of light connection here I come. Anyway, hang in there and good luck.
Sydonis Caldari Xoth Industries	Posted - 2007.10.09 21:40:00 - [160] I've tried posting, but no luck getting logged in - they may have done something once I asked for the MAC. If someone could point out to the guy gathering details that I cancelled our account over this issue... if they're blocking EVE today, they might be blocking something else tomorrow... and I don't like censorship.
Bacci Galu Confederation of Red Moon Red Moon Federation	Posted - 2007.10.10 00:12:00 - [161] Jump boat lads... I would pimp slap my isp if they ever pulled that crap on my connection :P Maker of thy sig Yes i do make sigs, banners, corp logo's ect...
Frogsley Babylon. Combined Planetary Union	Posted - 2007.10.10 00:32:00 - [162] If you're able, go with Be. For an adsl2+ service, and unlimited usage blah blah I cannot recommend them highly enough.
Mister Xerox	Posted - 2007.10.10 01:12:00 - [163] /put on tinfoil crash helmet It seems that SirMolle has a lot of stock in this Tiscali provider and has finally figured out how he can conquer Eve... don't let anyone login! during hours that BoB's out doing it's thing. That's a joke, BTW. /keeps the helmet on, just in case.
Tonkin D00M. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2007.10.10 01:56:00 - [164] Originally by: Salsa Verde Around 7:30 pm I was disconnected from EVE, and have been unable to reconnect since, even though the server is up. Apparently it is a Tiscali problem. So, I just got off the phone to a Tiscali support technician. The bottomline is, although EVE is not being blocked ("Tiscali blocks no site"), if it is a gaming site "you cannot access it between 6pm and 11pm... because of high bandwidth usage." This means Tiscali is throttling my connection to EVE so that it cannot be used. Funnily enough, she said "you can use the service during the day from work because it is not in peak hours," and missed the stupidity of what she said. She was also under the mistaken assumption that heavy graphics are sent between the EVE client and the TQ server. Apparently Tiscali technicians have never heard of the fat client concept. The irony is, even though I'm paying for a 1M connection, I never got download speeds of more the 120k - and EVE worked fine on that. So I guess they are throttling EVE to even less than that, which is the same as blocking. Anyway, tomorrow morning I will be cancelling my Tiscali service. Please sign here if you will join me in this consumer revolt! thats why i will never go on cable, BT mate, never broken for me and if it does they will fix within a day or 2
Moni Toimikone	Posted - 2007.10.10 02:19:00 - [165] Edited by: Moni Toimikone on 10/10/2007 02:19:59 Im just wondering whats up with the UK people and MAC addresses? What MAC address are you guys talking about (your NIC, router, dsl-modem, what?)? I just plug in the vdsl-modem, set pppoe settings on router/os and Im good to go, no messing around with MAC 's involved. Also on a site note my own ISP (DNA Oy/Pohjois-Suomi) has been having connection problems today, nobody seems to be able to connecto to EVE-Online, World of Warcraft or IRC from after downtime tuesday to atleast now (5 am local time wednesday).
gaz widdow Caldari THE INQUISITI0N	Posted - 2007.10.10 02:39:00 - [166] TalkTalk: pulled the same stunt over a year ago there a thread about it if you go aways back something to do with the port eve uses is the same as ptp downloads. Anyways there fix was for you to ring a premium rate number to get it unblocked, my fix was to get another line put to the house and another isp asap as it took them like 3 month to give me my mac code. they tried taking me to court and I wish they would have. And I was paying 30 quid a month for that crap
Keav Spitfire Inc	Posted - 2007.10.10 16:45:00 - [167] Edited by: Keav on 10/10/2007 16:49:24 Originally by: Tonkin thats why i will never go on cable, BT mate, never broken for me and if it does they will fix within a day or 2 Tiscali is NOT cable, Tiscali uses the standard BT line to provide it's broadband, which is probably why they are having issues. Many of the broadband offers (any promising up to 8mb connection on a standard BT line) are currently being investigated by the regulator OFCOM for promising 8mb speeds that, in most cases, is the theoretical maximum and in reality cannot be achieved. Virgin (which is cable) 20mb ftw
Major Raditz MASS Ministry Of Amarrian Secret Service	Posted - 2007.10.10 17:43:00 - [168] Originally by: Shelby Mustang well this is one very unhappy tiscali customer that has just asked for his MAC code. i guess its gunna be BT for me (very soon i hope) Good luck with BT. The support team is based overseas where you have to repeat your name several times as well as the issue. Good luck getting BRAS profiles fixed there =/ Originally by: Mextor Originally by: Kazuo Ishiguro I think changing ISP is the best option for those who can take it. Lots of people have been experiencing this problem, and I don't want to have to deal with it when there are cheaper and less onerous alternatives. I'm now waiting for my MAC, and I cited this problem (as well as the ú4/month price difference) as a reason for switching. Tiscali offered to match the lower price, but for their quality of service I don't think it's worthwhile. A smaller, less over-subscribed ISP now suits me better, I think. just remember to chase them a b****** for your mac code or it will take a week or so to come and that code it only active for 30 days from when you asked for it. also might be worth while asking the ISP you are thinking of moving to do they use Tiscali servers. Shouldn't take them days. I've generated MACs before and they have come from BT within 6hours. Always depends on how long they want to try and hold you down. 7 days is the OFCOM limit though IIRC.
Major Raditz MASS Ministry Of Amarrian Secret Service	Posted - 2007.10.10 17:45:00 - [169] Originally by: Keav Edited by: Keav on 10/10/2007 16:49:24 Originally by: Tonkin thats why i will never go on cable, BT mate, never broken for me and if it does they will fix within a day or 2 Tiscali is NOT cable, Tiscali uses the standard BT line to provide it's broadband, which is probably why they are having issues. Many of the broadband offers (any promising up to 8mb connection on a standard BT line) are currently being investigated by the regulator OFCOM for promising 8mb speeds that, in most cases, is the theoretical maximum and in reality cannot be achieved. Virgin (which is cable) 20mb ftw BT IPSTREAM: 8128kb maximum sync rate. Highest BRAS profile offered = 7120kb. With IP overheads maximum speed you can get is about 6.9mb.
Mag's MASS Ministry Of Amarrian Secret Service	Posted - 2007.10.10 18:07:00 - [170] I wouldn't touch BT or any other adsl provider tbh. Been with cable for years, and never had any issues. Hope you guys and gals get it sorted soon. Mag's
Malashek Vatrii Kaminjosvig	Posted - 2007.10.10 19:04:00 - [171] http://www.bbc.co.uk/consumer/tv_and_radio/watchdog/contact_index.shtml I suggest those affected write to Watchdog. Who knows, you might get on Tele! - Mal * * * *
bragdor	Posted - 2007.10.15 14:55:00 - [172] ffs,,iv swapped from tiscali to Virgin,, and there worse give use a break,,we pay good ******* money to get ripped off,
RaTTuS BIG Ka-Tet	Posted - 2007.10.15 15:04:00 - [173] Originally by: Moni Toimikone Edited by: Moni Toimikone on 10/10/2007 02:19:59 Im just wondering whats up with the UK people and MAC addresses? What MAC address are you guys talking about (your NIC, router, dsl-modem, what?)? I just plug in the vdsl-modem, set pppoe settings on router/os and Im good to go, no messing around with MAC 's involved. Also on a site note my own ISP (DNA Oy/Pohjois-Suomi) has been having connection problems today, nobody seems to be able to connecto to EVE-Online, World of Warcraft or IRC from after downtime tuesday to atleast now (5 am local time wednesday). in this case a MAC code is (Migration Authorisation Code) what is used to migrate the ADSL service from one providor to another -- BIG Lottery, BIG Deal, InEve [Now Verified] & RaTTuS Home
elohllird Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.10.15 17:23:00 - [174] Anyone used FAST.CO.UK? going to switch from tiscali tomorrow
Snaith Minmatar Bug Eyed Monsters	Posted - 2007.10.15 18:46:00 - [175] Tiscali Support have had a specific sticky running for Eve problems from the 4th Oct. They are waiting for your post. Tiscali support eve thread click here
Lord Hood Caldari Tau Ceti Global Production Knights Of the Southerncross	Posted - 2007.10.15 19:26:00 - [176] Edited by: Lord Hood on 15/10/2007 19:27:43 Tiscali is a joke, I was with them and had troubles constantly. They are apparently an "unlimited downloads" ISP however, if you read the small print it states to Fair Usage Policy. The Fair Usage Policy says that everyone is on the same d/l limit whereever they are BUT... if you wish over a certain amount a month (Approx. 10GB - i think they said) then you are classed as a Heavy User, you are then placed on the capped d/l limit which is about 50 kb/s and this happens between 6pm and 11pm. Basically, Tiscali is Crap. I have been with Sky for 3 Months on 4.5 meg (Which is about 300 - 400 kb/s download) with no problems. Good riddance to Tiscali.
Sean Dillon Caldari 5hockWave	Posted - 2007.10.15 20:06:00 - [177] Edited by: Sean Dillon on 15/10/2007 20:08:24 I work as a service provider for a telecom company. When I view this problem and their response to it, then the least you can say its pathetic. When they have to use their forum for this and ask customer for advice then either 1 their it'ers suck or they have no clue what to do about it. And your better of by another provider. There is no way a provider should block populair websites.
ICE Blade Minmatar Deadly Addiction	Posted - 2007.10.17 20:32:00 - [178] I am never going back to Tiscali, all my friends are tooling up ready to go in 0.0. I already got Talk Talk now just got to wait till 11 Nov 07. Can't wait. I think I actually hate tiscali, they used to be ok till they started blocking my eve. The reason is some filesharing applications use the same port as EVE and the bastards, yup thats what the are (blocking my eve), block that port in peak time 19:00 - 22:50 I found - Checking Status ~~~~~~~~~ And another thing don't eve try and contact Tiscali Tech Support they suck and it does not that they follow diagrams of questions to ask and funnilly enough EVE is not on there. I wonder if they would block the carebear of WoWs servers port. I think I hate Tiscali the bloated disorganised pile of cheap Eve blocking SHAT. Grrrr God I hate them so much I here my friends on TS all having ffun. Anyways if you value if get your Mac code and move on.
Yumis	Posted - 2007.10.17 20:53:00 - [179] Edited by: Yumis on 17/10/2007 20:55:09 Originally by: Salsa Verde The irony is, even though I'm paying for a 1M connection, I never got download speeds of more the 120k - and EVE worked fine on that. So I guess they are throttling EVE to even less than that, which is the same as blocking. Not sure if its already been mentioned, but bandwidth is measured in bits per second, and downloads are files in Windows are measured in bytes per second (usually) so the 120kpBs (Bytes) download is actually 960kbs (Bits) which is actually really really good for a 1M line, you are maxing it out and sounds quite good at non peak times!
Nagi Katsumi Renovatio Industries Combined Planetary Union	Posted - 2007.10.17 21:05:00 - [180] Edited by: Nagi Katsumi on 17/10/2007 21:05:42 I laugh at the fact you actually even decided to pay for Tiscali "broadband". They provide the most slowest, unreliable and in general miserable internet connection EVER. Don't boycott. Go kill the idiot who runs the company. You'd be doing the world a favour. Roll BT / Virgin Broadband = win. ----- What I say does not reflect the views of my corp or alliance unless I say so!

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