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Kelron Queldine Infinitus Odium The Church.	Posted - 2007.10.14 00:00:00 - [151] Originally by: Trojanman190 Originally by: CCP Zulupark Originally by: mallina Does this mean the Crusader is going to lose it's Tracking Bonus? Crow, Claw, Crusader and Taranis will not have their bonuses changed one bit, they only get the new role bonus added. But but but... the claw is the one that needed fixing! What's wrong with the Claw? The Minmatar inty pilots I've spoken to about all seem to think it's a great ship, and even went so far as to suggest it was better that my Taranis. Naturally I had to prove them wrong on that point, but it's still a fairly good inty. --------------------------- Vanilla Crazy Cake!
Haerana The Republican Guard The Sundering	Posted - 2007.10.14 00:06:00 - [152] Originally by: Kelron Queldine Drone nav computers could be used on the 'spare' mid a lot of Gallente drone ships have on a standard setup, but I don't know how practical it would be to fit them on other race's ships - certainly not useful for Caldari. I've never used them; I remember being told not to bother with them when I was a newer player because the drones go too fast to track their target, but I've never checked this for myself. In my time using drone ships. i have had warrior II overshoot stuff alot on my domi. Got drone sniping 4 and drone nav skills 3. i was advised to always keep drone nav lower than sniping or they became to fast. I used to run a ratting domi with 2drone nav mods to speed up my heavies. but i did try em out for other purposes... if i tried to use warrior II they would overshoot on slow frigs constantly. with 1 omni link it improved it abit. I had to fit 2omni links to make them hit anything well enough to use... but again this is for ratting npc frigs in belts. then again this was messing about along time ago. So who knows nowadays. ------------------------------- Here comes the sig............. The Cake is a Lie The Cake is a Lie The Cake is a Lie The Cake is a Lie
Vitrael Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2007.10.14 00:12:00 - [153] /me jumps up and down /me kisses numerous stilettos.
Celestra Doxaila Enosis	Posted - 2007.10.14 01:09:00 - [154] Edited by: Celestra Doxaila on 14/10/2007 01:09:22 Originally by: Trypho The Lachesis can easily damp the hell out of you and do decent damage itself, while a ceptor will rely on others... Except if it tackles like a pod True, and I am a big fan of the Lachesis/Arazu; but for simple tackling duties, I can buy 5 interceptors for the price of one Recon Cruiser. Originally by: Vitrael /me jumps up and down /me kisses numerous stilettos. You may not want to do that.
Kelron Queldine Infinitus Odium The Church.	Posted - 2007.10.14 01:16:00 - [155] Originally by: Vitrael /me jumps up and down /me kisses numerous stilettos. Watch out for the Tetanus. --------------------------- Vanilla Crazy Cake!
Locke Ateid Minmatar Brutor tribe	Posted - 2007.10.14 01:28:00 - [156] Edited by: Locke Ateid on 14/10/2007 01:30:50 Originally by: Kelron Queldine Originally by: Trojanman190 Originally by: CCP Zulupark Originally by: mallina Does this mean the Crusader is going to lose it's Tracking Bonus? Crow, Claw, Crusader and Taranis will not have their bonuses changed one bit, they only get the new role bonus added. But but but... the claw is the one that needed fixing! What's wrong with the Claw? The Minmatar inty pilots I've spoken to about all seem to think it's a great ship, and even went so far as to suggest it was better that my Taranis. Naturally I had to prove them wrong on that point, but it's still a fairly good inty. The Claw is a great Ceptor, when used in the right situation (popping other Ceptors), but plenty of people don't think it's not nearly as versatile as say a Taranis or Crow. And while it may be the fastest Ceptor, ironically it's also the heaviest, making it not as nearly as fast as one would think when MWDs come into play. And some think that the "low cpu + two mid slot" is bad decision on CCP's part, believing that it needs either a slight CPU boost and/or an extra mid slot. Personally, I'm fine with the Claw...course, any boost would be icing on the cake for me :P .
Sky Grunthor Minmatar MKS Directorate	Posted - 2007.10.14 01:43:00 - [157] Bs's can alway fit missiles for detackleing. Kill the int and it can't tackle you any more. However an inti is a support ship. it won't be there without friends. so if you don't have freinds your screwed. YOU need support ships in your BS.
Pattern Clarc Reikoku	Posted - 2007.10.14 02:22:00 - [158] Originally by: Goumindong Originally by: CCP Zulupark I have no idea about the Roden Shipyard stuff, that's outside my field of work tbh, but we will look at the Ares before these changes make it to TQ. No need, ive done it for you. With 2 meds, and 4 lows, the Ares is fine, and perfectly inline with all the other "tackle" interceptors with 6 total med/low slots. Like the stiletto? Sig removed lacks EVE content, email [email protected] if you have any questions - Xorus
Pattern Clarc Reikoku	Posted - 2007.10.14 02:26:00 - [159] Edited by: Pattern Clarc on 14/10/2007 02:26:13 Originally by: Wrayeth Edited by: Wrayeth on 13/10/2007 18:57:20 FFS. I hope you realize you just spelled the doom of every ship larger than a destroyer (and maybe even destroyers - I don't fly 'em enough to know if they have the speed/range/tracking needed). Cruisers unable to fight back against the lone 'ceptor that's killing them? Check (not enough range/tracking on medium weaponry, and medium neuts don't have the range either). Battlecruisers unable to fight back against the lone 'ceptor tackling them? Also check (same problem as cruisers). Battleships unable to fight back against the lone 'ceptor? Check as well (BS guns may have the range, depending on type, but can't track worth a damn; neuts used to be the only defense against 'ceptors, but now they won't help at all). Seriously, CCP, why are you doing this? Are you trying to turn this into all of the other MMOs out there with enforced grouping and an inability to be useful without 6283 friends? It may be cliche, but if this change makes it in I may have to cancel my account (no you can't have my stuff). I prefer flying the larger ships, and this change will make them useless without a fair-sized gang to back them up, even against a lone 'ceptor. One word: WHY? WTS Remote Sensor Dampener Sig removed lacks EVE content, email [email protected] if you have any questions - Xorus
Zana Kito Antares Fleet Yards SMASH Alliance	Posted - 2007.10.14 02:27:00 - [160] Originally by: Sky Grunthor Bs's can alway fit missiles for detackleing. Kill the int and it can't tackle you any more. However an inti is a support ship. it won't be there without friends. so if you don't have freinds your screwed. YOU need support ships in your BS. Since when can missiles hurt inties? Seriously people who reply that anti inty tactics are to use drones or missiles are either ignorant or stupid. They can't touch any decent inty going at 9km/s. Tackling with impunity is a silly game mechanic. There should always be risks involved in any tactic. What risks are there when you orbit at 29km going over 9km/s, are immune to drones, missiles, neuts, all turreted weapons.. With all the recent usage of nanos/speed-tanking, weapon systems need a big update to match. They were designed in a time where flying at 4km/s was the max and are simply obsolete in todays speed focused warfare. Light Drones and Light Missiles SHOULD always be the anti-frig/inty weapon since they were designed for that. Now they can't do squat. CCP time for a rethink.
Velt Lhasar Generals Of Destruction Syndicate	Posted - 2007.10.14 02:28:00 - [161] CCP should consider swithing the warp disruptor/scram from malediction to crusader. As it stands, crusaders are often fit with beams and it would make more sense staying outside of 25km with this than the rocket bonus malediction
Kelron Queldine Infinitus Odium The Church.	Posted - 2007.10.14 02:44:00 - [162] To the people whining about 9km/s inties: I know it's annoying that they're hard to catch, but remember that to go that fast they've had to fit faction gear which most likely cost far more than your BS and setup (unless that is faction fit too, ofc). And they still run the risk of dying to minmatar recons, or long range/overloaded webs, or another fast inty. --------------------------- Vanilla Crazy Cake!
Pattern Clarc Reikoku	Posted - 2007.10.14 02:45:00 - [163] Originally by: Kelron Queldine To the people whining about 9km/s inties: I know it's annoying that they're hard to catch, but remember that to go that fast they've had to fit faction gear which most likely cost far more than your BS and setup (unless that is faction fit too, ofc). And they still run the risk of dying to minmatar recons, or long range/overloaded webs, or another fast inty. Sig removed lacks EVE content, email [email protected] if you have any questions - Xorus
Gragnor Ordos Humanitas FREGE Alliance	Posted - 2007.10.14 04:13:00 - [164] Originally by: Kelron Queldine To the people whining about 9km/s inties: I know it's annoying that they're hard to catch, but remember that to go that fast they've had to fit faction gear which most likely cost far more than your BS and setup (unless that is faction fit too, ofc). And they still run the risk of dying to minmatar recons, or long range/overloaded webs, or another fast inty. When a bs runs at 9km/s after spending $300m isk in mods - its gets nerfed..........tell me why it should be any different for an inty?
Bardi MecAuldnis Amarr Heretic Army Fang Alliance	Posted - 2007.10.14 04:50:00 - [165] Originally by: Gragnor Originally by: Kelron Queldine To the people whining about 9km/s inties: I know it's annoying that they're hard to catch, but remember that to go that fast they've had to fit faction gear which most likely cost far more than your BS and setup (unless that is faction fit too, ofc). And they still run the risk of dying to minmatar recons, or long range/overloaded webs, or another fast inty. When a bs runs at 9km/s after spending $300m isk in mods - its gets nerfed..........tell me why it should be any different for an inty? Because they are INTERCEPTORS. They are designed for speed. When a Double-decker bus can outrun my RX-7, there is a problem. --- Amarr/Caldari, and proud of it. Hey hey let's go kenka suru! Taisetsuna mono protect my balls! Boku ga warui so lets fighting! LET'S FIGHTING LOVE!!!
Uncle Smokey Minmatar Infestation.	Posted - 2007.10.14 04:56:00 - [166] YAY! YAY! uncle clapz hands .:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:. \o/ EVERYBODY SAY HELL YEAH! \o/
Andreya	Posted - 2007.10.14 05:13:00 - [167] Originally by: Trojanman190 Originally by: CCP Zulupark Originally by: mallina Does this mean the Crusader is going to lose it's Tracking Bonus? Crow, Claw, Crusader and Taranis will not have their bonuses changed one bit, they only get the new role bonus added. But but but... the claw is the one that needed fixing! 4th turret ftw!!!!!!!!!!!! ... please
Akashyi Gallente Battlestars GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.10.14 05:13:00 - [168] just dont touch my ranis.............
Pattern Clarc Reikoku	Posted - 2007.10.14 05:15:00 - [169] Originally by: CCP Zulupark Originally by: Sangxianc Looks like the MWD/disruptor/EWofchoice inty will be a popular tackling choice when this hits TQ. (Unless you fly Gallente.) It's too bad you guys are nerfing RSDs before inties get a chance to be overpowered with them. Originally by: CCP Zulupark I forgot to mention that we're of course looking into the Ares as well in regards to slot layout :) That's interesting to hear. Do you think it likely that you'll have decided whether to change the Ares before you introduce these new bonuses? Also, does the altered Roden Shipyards description mean that you are considering reassessing the rest of the Pink Fleet? I have no idea about the Roden Shipyard stuff, that's outside my field of work tbh, but we will look at the Ares before these changes make it to TQ. You can't really solve the Ares problem without solving the whole Roden Shipyards issuse tbh. Sig removed lacks EVE content, email [email protected] if you have any questions - Xorus
Andreya	Posted - 2007.10.14 05:16:00 - [170] Originally by: Kelron Queldine To the people whining about 9km/s inties: I know it's annoying that they're hard to catch, but remember that to go that fast they've had to fit faction gear which most likely cost far more than your BS and setup (unless that is faction fit too, ofc). And they still run the risk of dying to minmatar recons, or long range/overloaded webs, or another fast inty. thank you, my malediciton is over 300 mill... it better do its job tackling a BS without dying .. i still want my double rocket damage bonus tho armour resist wont help much
Andreya	Posted - 2007.10.14 05:17:00 - [171] Originally by: Gragnor Originally by: Kelron Queldine To the people whining about 9km/s inties: I know it's annoying that they're hard to catch, but remember that to go that fast they've had to fit faction gear which most likely cost far more than your BS and setup (unless that is faction fit too, ofc). And they still run the risk of dying to minmatar recons, or long range/overloaded webs, or another fast inty. When a bs runs at 9km/s after spending $300m isk in mods - its gets nerfed..........tell me why it should be any different for an inty? ummmm? are you serious? maybe cause it can still do 500+ dps,? and can still tank a bit. and the inty? ... 70 dps at 28km, and zero tank... nuff said
Andreya	Posted - 2007.10.14 05:18:00 - [172] wow.. sorry. im done my rant now :P
Herring Pimpology Free Trade Zone.	Posted - 2007.10.14 05:42:00 - [173] Originally by: ArmyOfMe Originally by: Kap Lan Originally by: ArmyOfMe I see your point, but u have to agree that a bs should be able to at least have some defence against small ships, and if these changes happen a interceptor can tackle a bs forever without any risk at all What about T2 light drones? I have very little experience in PVP, so perhaps I'm off base. But it seems that five Hobgoblin II drones, for example, would eat up an interceptor. They certainly have no problem eating up Spider Drone IIs and other very fast, little ships in PVE. those spider drones doest even come close to the speed of a interceptor, neither does small drones sadly, and there is the problem How fast can inties go? I know a viable cruiser setup that can get t2 light drones to go up to 7.5k/sec. I'll have to test it again soon I think...
Lyria Skydancer Amarr Uninvited Guests	Posted - 2007.10.14 05:58:00 - [174] Originally by: Wrayeth Edited by: Wrayeth on 13/10/2007 19:06:34 Yes, now it will be frig > BS > BC > cruiser, despite the fact that the larger ships cost a lot more. Great idea, truly. I'll pay you 5bill isk if your inty can kill my battleship. Because this is what youre implying here. kkthxbai.
Goumindong Amarr Merch Industrial GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.10.14 06:04:00 - [175] Originally by: Lyria Skydancer Originally by: Wrayeth Edited by: Wrayeth on 13/10/2007 19:06:34 Yes, now it will be frig > BS > BC > cruiser, despite the fact that the larger ships cost a lot more. Great idea, truly. I'll pay you 5bill isk if your inty can kill my battleship. Because this is what youre implying here. kkthxbai. Where do you want to fight?
Uncle Smokey Minmatar Infestation.	Posted - 2007.10.14 06:28:00 - [176] i want claw more ninja! .:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:. \o/ EVERYBODY SAY HELL YEAH! \o/
General Apocalypse Amarr Viziam	Posted - 2007.10.14 06:50:00 - [177] Originally by: CCP Zulupark Originally by: Lisa Ikura So what your saying is that its a intended feature that a interceptor will be able to tackle a bs without the bs having any sort of defence against it? I'm saying that Ares, Malediction, Raptor and Stiletto will be able to lay down +1 warp scramble from up to 30km (approx) on a battleships, and the battleship will not be able to do much about it... except maybe MWD to a gate or station, call in friends (cause there's NO way that these interceptors will break a BS's tank from that range) or.... or.. or.. maybe not fly around in a BS solo without a scout? The Arazu and Lachesis can also do this, and much more effectively, scrambling up to 40km range (or more) and sensor dampen their target completely. There's nothing a solo BS can do against that either. That is stupid 100% . You need to get in a BS and fly it in 0.0 . The range bonus should only go on scramblers not on distruptors . Originally by: CCP Morpheus nerf ccp plz Originally by: CCP Oveur To the gankmobile!
Lyria Skydancer Amarr Uninvited Guests	Posted - 2007.10.14 06:58:00 - [178] Originally by: Goumindong Originally by: Lyria Skydancer Originally by: Wrayeth Edited by: Wrayeth on 13/10/2007 19:06:34 Yes, now it will be frig > BS > BC > cruiser, despite the fact that the larger ships cost a lot more. Great idea, truly. I'll pay you 5bill isk if your inty can kill my battleship. Because this is what youre implying here. kkthxbai. Where do you want to fight? Do the math, 1 inty wont break a non-******** fitted BS tank.
Kai Lae Gallente Shiva Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2007.10.14 07:24:00 - [179] If CCP is going to go through with this change, than ships that can fight interceptors will become more important - any chance they'll look at a class of ships that actually need some help, which are assualt frigates? When a MWD hawk or harpy is slower than a typhoon w/ a 100mn MWD II and no nanos, that's a problem.
Nian Banks Minmatar Berserkers of Aesir	Posted - 2007.10.14 07:28:00 - [180] Well atleast I know one thing, my alt will be happy, just finished yesterday maxing all relevant skills to small proj weapons and flies desties / dictors. With this change, a sniping thrasher will be a welcome addition to many gangs.

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