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Acoco Osiris Gallente Sublime.	Posted - 2007.10.13 12:42:00 - [31] Originally by: Kanonus That being said unless you are in a belt you can allways go for the gate. For webbign he still needs to enterer the world of pain. Actually there's dangers for interceptors in belts. The asteroids themselves are surprisingly difficult for interceptors to fly through. ------------------------------ One more soldier off to war... And one Velator in my hangars.
Tuomas Oravainen Caldari Rosvosektori Exuro Mortis	Posted - 2007.10.13 12:50:00 - [32] Pretty good change, finally some use for those ships. I hope they'll change ares' slot layout though, 2 mid slots isn't really all that good. Could use a third for a sensor booster at least.
Trypho Minmatar Infinitus Odium The Church.	Posted - 2007.10.13 12:53:00 - [33] Originally by: Central Scrutinizer Lachesis doesn't do "nice damage".... It does if you count in that your opponent doesn`t do damage at all --- Newsposter/contenteditor EVE - MMOZone.nl
MITSUK0	Posted - 2007.10.13 13:20:00 - [34] I really dont want to lose an offensive bonus on my stiletto Its my little ceptor that could. Also totally underrated with its current bonuses. Bah.
Sc0rphion	Posted - 2007.10.13 13:28:00 - [35] Originally by: ArmyOfMe Originally by: Kanonus Originally by: ArmyOfMe Edited by: ArmyOfMe on 13/10/2007 11:35:59 come to think about it, this would be a very bad change for any bs since they will now allways be scramed from outside nos/neut range Did it ever come to you that's exactly the idea behind it? As it is right now a ceptor is dead meat when tackling a BS with a neut (and the number of neut equipped BS is on the rise). The job of the intercetor is tackling. A job it fails horribly at right now. They are no alternative over a sabre as it is. I see your point, but u have to agree that a bs should be able to at least have some defence against small ships, and if these changes happen a interceptor can tackle a bs forever without any risk at all Are you really a morsus mihi? I believed that they knew their thing but u are the big dissapoint and exception the word DRONES its something to you? and the word BShAveSoMUcHDrOnECapability also??? or you think that drones canot du EW or even worst FIGHT Dont post crap like this only becouse you want to flame the changes... And see this. You are the only one full of crap
ArmyOfMe hirr Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2007.10.13 13:32:00 - [36] Edited by: ArmyOfMe on 13/10/2007 13:32:52 Originally by: Sc0rphion the word DRONES its something to you? and the word BShAveSoMUcHDrOnECapability also??? or you think that drones canot du EW or even worst FIGHT Dont post crap like this only becouse you want to flame the changes... And see this. You are the only one full of crap Have you ever tried hitting a fast interceptor orbiting at 20-30km at all? Not sure what planet u come from m8, but as far as i can see i havnt flamed the changes at all, i pointed out things that worries both me and other ppl. The only one flaming here is you. Ps: unlike you i at least dear to have my corp ticker showing
Atius Tirawa Minmatar Wreckless Abandon Triumvirate.	Posted - 2007.10.13 13:37:00 - [37] a very bad change. It makes intis too powerful against larger ships. The NoS nurf was enough - this is just pure bad. As stated before, BBs don't have a real defense against these small ships. Their reduced sig is already bad, but this adds a new level of inti gankage. The Stilleto has very poor DPS, but the Malidiction is going to rule the skys now.
Sangxianc Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.10.13 13:40:00 - [38] A flat 80% reduction is way overboard in my opinion, should be 50%. A sensor booster/signal amplifier is required now if you're going to fit a faction disruptor or fly with a command ship, so that's too bad again for the Ares who has to make do with the crap one (sig amp). Still with stock T2 it'll be much improved.
Forsch Auctoritan Syndicate Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2007.10.13 13:55:00 - [39] Kinda bad for the malediction. What good is that rocket bonus if your new bonus is better tackling range. We'll see.. Forsch Defender of the empire
Plutoinum German Cyberdome Corp Cult of War	Posted - 2007.10.13 14:08:00 - [40] The 80% role bonus for propulsion jamming reduction costs is a good change. Tech-2 warp-disruptors plus some other active modules suck too much cap on my Stilletto imho. Don't like the range bonus, I think. Nosing got nerfed, neutralizers don't get used that much like nos (before) and the cycle time probably means that you are able to regenerate some cap during one cycle, especially if you fit for it and assume, you get the 80% role bonus. So don't really see the reason for more range. Fit a true sansha or domination warp disruptor, if you want more range or overload for a short-time. (Ok, I can't overload yet)

Kap Lan	Posted - 2007.10.13 14:13:00 - [41] Originally by: ArmyOfMe I see your point, but u have to agree that a bs should be able to at least have some defence against small ships, and if these changes happen a interceptor can tackle a bs forever without any risk at all What about T2 light drones? I have very little experience in PVP, so perhaps I'm off base. But it seems that five Hobgoblin II drones, for example, would eat up an interceptor. They certainly have no problem eating up Spider Drone IIs and other very fast, little ships in PVE.
ArmyOfMe hirr Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2007.10.13 14:16:00 - [42] Originally by: Kap Lan Originally by: ArmyOfMe I see your point, but u have to agree that a bs should be able to at least have some defence against small ships, and if these changes happen a interceptor can tackle a bs forever without any risk at all What about T2 light drones? I have very little experience in PVP, so perhaps I'm off base. But it seems that five Hobgoblin II drones, for example, would eat up an interceptor. They certainly have no problem eating up Spider Drone IIs and other very fast, little ships in PVE. those spider drones doest even come close to the speed of a interceptor, neither does small drones sadly, and there is the problem
Elliott Manchild omen. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2007.10.13 14:17:00 - [43] Originally by: Kap Lan Originally by: ArmyOfMe I see your point, but u have to agree that a bs should be able to at least have some defence against small ships, and if these changes happen a interceptor can tackle a bs forever without any risk at all What about T2 light drones? I have very little experience in PVP, so perhaps I'm off base. But it seems that five Hobgoblin II drones, for example, would eat up an interceptor. They certainly have no problem eating up Spider Drone IIs and other very fast, little ships in PVE. Lets take for example, a well setup crow, without snakes you can easily get them over 10km per second and they are the most used interceptor. How can t2 light drones catch this? ;p
Malibu Stacey Gallente Umbra Congregatio Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.10.13 14:28:00 - [44] Can anyone copy & paste the description for the damage dealer tacklers (Taranis, Crusader, Claw) please? This is nice but sucks for the Ares unless they unbugger it's slot layout & split weapon hardpoints. --- Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition!
Plave Okice Gallente 5hockWave	Posted - 2007.10.13 14:30:00 - [45] Given that the only real use for the Ares is as a cheap tackler this is more like an Ares boost.
Cailais Amarr VITOC Fang Alliance	Posted - 2007.10.13 14:31:00 - [46] *"Interceptors Skill Bonus: 5% reduction in Signature Radius and 5% bonus to Warp Scrambler and Warp Disruptor range per level"* Yeeeeeehhaaaa! Awesome, simply brilliant!! /me runs to his Malediction C. - sig designer - eve mail
Death Kill Caldari direkte	Posted - 2007.10.13 14:33:00 - [47] Edited by: Death Kill on 13/10/2007 14:33:30 Originally by: Kanonus BS were never meant to be solo ships. Bring a friend. It's a mMog. That being said unless you are in a belt you can allways go for the gate. For webbign he still needs to enterer the world of pain. What an idiot reply. Just because a bs is able to somehow make a smaller ship not being able to tackle it doesnt mean its a solo ship. This change is STUPID, UTTER STUPID: Beware of the inty gang, 15 intys will own 15 battleships. Call to arms!!!
Cailais Amarr VITOC Fang Alliance	Posted - 2007.10.13 14:43:00 - [48] Originally by: Death Kill Edited by: Death Kill on 13/10/2007 14:33:30 Originally by: Kanonus BS were never meant to be solo ships. Bring a friend. It's a mMog. That being said unless you are in a belt you can allways go for the gate. For webbign he still needs to enterer the world of pain. What an idiot reply. Just because a bs is able to somehow make a smaller ship not being able to tackle it doesnt mean its a solo ship. This change is STUPID, UTTER STUPID: Beware of the inty gang, 15 intys will own 15 battleships. Indeed. The Battleship Era is over, the new Frigate Era has begun. Interceptors, EW Frigates, HACs and Hacdictors will dominate the face of Eve. C. - sig designer - eve mail
Elmicker Black Sea Industries Cult of War	Posted - 2007.10.13 14:45:00 - [49] Edited by: Elmicker on 13/10/2007 14:45:34 Speaking as a near-dedicated crow pilot, this change is a tad ridiculous. It's gonna make crows absolutely untouchable as a tackler. Scrambling from 28.8km and running their mwd and disruptor forever. Good luck hitting a crow going 7km/s around you at 25km. Oh, and that's the T2 fit. Domi/Gistii fit, you're talking 35km, going even faster.
Malcanis High4Life SMASH Alliance	Posted - 2007.10.13 14:57:00 - [50] Originally by: Elmicker Edited by: Elmicker on 13/10/2007 14:50:40 Speaking as a near-dedicated crow pilot, this change is a tad ridiculous. It's gonna make crows absolutely untouchable as a tackler. Scrambling from 28.8km and running their mwd and disruptor forever. Good luck hitting a crow going 7km/s around you at 25km. Oh, and that's the T2 fit. Domi/Gistii fit, you're talking 35km, going even faster. edit: lol. Crow with faction disruptor will likely outrange most huginns' webs. Excuse my ignorance (I'm mostly a missile user), but won't the larger orbit range translate to a lower angular velocity? Traversing a 35Km radius orbit at 7Km/s gives, hmmm... ~0.2 r/s. Or will this still be too high to matter? CONCORD provide consequences, not safety; only you can do that.

velocity7	Posted - 2007.10.13 15:01:00 - [51] Here's the full list of changes at the moment.
Stakhanov Katana's Edge	Posted - 2007.10.13 15:08:00 - [52] Uber inty buff Malediction makes no sense though - rockets with scram range bonus ? Originally by: F'nog One does not simply log into Jita.
Elmicker Black Sea Industries Cult of War	Posted - 2007.10.13 15:12:00 - [53] Edited by: Elmicker on 13/10/2007 15:12:31 Originally by: Malcanis Excuse my ignorance (I'm mostly a missile user), but won't the larger orbit range translate to a lower angular velocity? Traversing a 35Km radius orbit at 7Km/s gives, hmmm... ~0.2 r/s. Or will this still be too high to matter? A megathron's 425s track at 0.02r/s. You'd need something like a muninn with a couple of tracking mods and smaller ACs to hit it with any success. Missiles will do 0.0 damage. Just run it through eft and a max-skilled muninn (which gets a tracking bonus with its HAC skill) with 220 ACs will track at 0.201 before tracking mods. However, even using carbonized lead (the long range t1 ammo), you don't come anywhere close to 35km range. You can manage it with barrage, but then you take a tracking hit down to 0.15. So basically, they're untouchable unless they're webbed, and considering they can now outrange the specialised webbing ship, it's starting to get a bit silly.
ElCoCo KIA Corp KIA Alliance	Posted - 2007.10.13 15:13:00 - [54] Originally by: velocity7 Here's the full list of changes at the moment. Ok then false alarm, crow/ranis/sader/claw are not getting the scramble range bonus. That would have been insane.
Unaralas V i r u s	Posted - 2007.10.13 15:15:00 - [55] Uhmm... the crow doesn't get the scram range bonus dude. Raptor does ______________________
Tonto Auri	Posted - 2007.10.13 15:17:00 - [56] Originally by: Central Scrutinizer Yeah, bad idea, tbh. BS currently have two choices to detackle themselves: neutralizer, or damps/ECM. After this, there is one choice: damps/ECM. I thought we wanted this game to move away from fitting damps/ECM to non-bonused ships, but apparently I'm out of touch with the Eve community. Drones, smarts, friends. -- Thanks CCP for cu<end of sig>
Elmicker Black Sea Industries Cult of War	Posted - 2007.10.13 15:17:00 - [57] Originally by: Unaralas Uhmm... the crow doesn't get the scram range bonus dude. Raptor does Then replace everywhere i've said "Crow" with "Raptor" or whatever inty you prefer to fly. Inties don't kill things, they tackle. However, the point still stands about the crow now being able to constantly run its mwd + point. Previously it could only keep that up for a minute or so.
Tonto Auri	Posted - 2007.10.13 15:23:00 - [58] Originally by: Forsch Kinda bad for the malediction. What good is that rocket bonus if your new bonus is better tackling range. We'll see.. Better tackling range is about to catch Your enemy sooner. I still prefer to orbit at 3-5km and lay out my missile bays than staying at range and wait when the next shoot will hit me or not. -- Thanks CCP for cu<end of sig>
Udyr Vulpayne Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2007.10.13 15:35:00 - [59] Originally by: Forsch Kinda bad for the malediction. What good is that rocket bonus if your new bonus is better tackling range. We'll see.. wondering about this one myself. at least one of the bonuses will be pretty useless on the maled. not that em missile damage was all that awesome before.
Elmicker Black Sea Industries Cult of War	Posted - 2007.10.13 15:37:00 - [60] Originally by: Udyr Vulpayne wondering about this one myself. at least one of the bonuses will be pretty useless on the maled. not that em missile damage was all that awesome before. Just fly and fit it like a crow. Remember your job is to tackle, not to kill things.



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