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Kagura Nikon Minmatar Infinity Enterprises Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.12.06 19:45:00 - [1321] Originally by: Wizzkidy Edited by: Wizzkidy on 06/12/2007 19:30:25 CCP should NOT be touching anything to do with my BOOT.INI file. This patch deployment is a complete bodge job. If ANY company that deals in the IT indutry done this they would lose ALOT of trust and respect. I work for a large IT company that has to roll out hotfixes and patches around the year, how would I look if I happened to release a series of patches that screwed users machines? - It would make my company look like a complete chocolate tea pot. No, I have to test and test oh and tet again, infact I have to run numious tests in before I'm even remotly happy. This is a BIG thing to miss, Sometimes I wonder how something THIS BIG is missed? Simple: They did not wanted to touch taht file. They wanted to delete EVE boot.ini. But a misplaced / did it go wrong. Why was not detected? Because Every windows 2K and windows XP up to date on services packs and automatic updates is imune to such. So most likely they only tested in up to date machines. No other choice is possible. Its impossible to test a complex software such this in every configuration possible of windows updating. Any user that was usign its windows correctly was safe. If brute force doesn't solve your problem... you are not using enough
Yinmax Serret's Harem	Posted - 2007.12.06 19:47:00 - [1322] 10 second fix
Crawthar	Posted - 2007.12.06 19:47:00 - [1323] Originally by: Yoshi Horohito Originally by: Crawthar can someone help me? iv checked the harddrive, made files visible and unhidden protected files, but i couldnt see the boot.ini file. However when i search my files it shows a boot.ini.backup. Is my computer ok? Copy that backup file to your C: drive and then click on the name of the file and remove the .backup part of the file name. Yes that SHOULD fix it...... Thanx for the help. when i try renaming the file it says that a file with the name boot.ini already exists, so im assuming im ok? Is that correct
Traidor Disloyal Minmatar Racketeers	Posted - 2007.12.06 19:47:00 - [1324] I needed a Windows XP CD, a ps2 keyboard for some reason, and my admin password for my PC. Go to this web page and you will have no problems getting back your boot.ini file: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/330184/
Kordesh Minmatar	Posted - 2007.12.06 19:47:00 - [1325] Originally by: Kennet MacDonald Originally by: Kordesh Originally by: Cailais Ok, my PC won't read from the CD Drive, but Ive managed to get it into MS DOS. Is there a way to run a Boot.ini script from my 3.5 drive? If so what do I need to do? My OS is MS XP Home Edition. Thanks. C. If you can get to a prompt and access the drives, navigating to the directory where the boot.ini file is, and typing "copy boot.ini c:\" without quotes should copy the boot.ini file to the correct location. simply restart after that. To get to the prompt, you're most likely going to need a boot disk on a 3.5, which you should be able to create or download just about anywhere at another computer. Won't happen unless he's unfortunate enough to have a fat32 file system - MS DOS has no clue what NTFS is. Yeah forgot about that. I'm not sure why the CD rom wouldn't work. Usually it can at least still load bootable disks. ------------------------------------------- "What's it like being a turtle?" "It's a lot like being a walking house that eats lettuce." (Hurray temp sig!)
Wilhelm Beck Tritanium Workers Union	Posted - 2007.12.06 19:54:00 - [1326] CBa to read teh whole thing, but for those of you wh=ith no windows cd, and access another machine, or have a ubuntu disc handy you can do teh following stuff
Beara	Posted - 2007.12.06 19:54:00 - [1327] Ok. Never mind I tried to start eve and it wouldnt start. I uninstalled it and Im going to reinstall it Originally by: Beara I'm not a tech wizard and I still dont know if I have to uninstall and reinstall eve Originally by: Beara Do i have to uninstall eve and reinstall or does the patch work now Originally by: Beara Do I have to un install eve and re install it. Or can I use the patch now
Furious Hawk Caldari I-Omniscient-I	Posted - 2007.12.06 19:55:00 - [1328] Originally by: d1v1n1ty Edited by: d1v1n1ty on 06/12/2007 19:46:12 Originally by: Furious Hawk Edited by: Furious Hawk on 06/12/2007 19:41:31 Ok, well it would appear my computer was not affected, so I'm confused. I did a system restore to the day before Trinity's launch anyway, and took a peek in my C drive root directory. There is no boot file there, yet the computer starts fine. There is however a backup boot file in some other folder, as well as a boot file in the EVE folder (wtf CCP?). boot.ini is a hidden and system file, by default these aren't shown. If your computer boots up fine...you're ok. I had myself set to view all files, hidden or not. It was not there.
Barakkus	Posted - 2007.12.06 19:55:00 - [1329] Originally by: Kennet MacDonald Originally by: Kordesh Originally by: Cailais Ok, my PC won't read from the CD Drive, but Ive managed to get it into MS DOS. Is there a way to run a Boot.ini script from my 3.5 drive? If so what do I need to do? My OS is MS XP Home Edition. Thanks. C. If you can get to a prompt and access the drives, navigating to the directory where the boot.ini file is, and typing "copy boot.ini c:\" without quotes should copy the boot.ini file to the correct location. simply restart after that. To get to the prompt, you're most likely going to need a boot disk on a 3.5, which you should be able to create or download just about anywhere at another computer. Won't happen unless he's unfortunate enough to have a fat32 file system - MS DOS has no clue what NTFS is. that is correct, someone posted a link to download something that will boot to a command prompt that can read NTFS, there are probably very few people that installed to a FAT32 partition...
Barakkus	Posted - 2007.12.06 19:56:00 - [1330] Originally by: Furious Hawk Originally by: d1v1n1ty Edited by: d1v1n1ty on 06/12/2007 19:46:12 Originally by: Furious Hawk Edited by: Furious Hawk on 06/12/2007 19:41:31 Ok, well it would appear my computer was not affected, so I'm confused. I did a system restore to the day before Trinity's launch anyway, and took a peek in my C drive root directory. There is no boot file there, yet the computer starts fine. There is however a backup boot file in some other folder, as well as a boot file in the EVE folder (wtf CCP?). boot.ini is a hidden and system file, by default these aren't shown. If your computer boots up fine...you're ok. I had myself set to view all files, hidden or not. It was not there. my laptop also had no boot.ini on XP Pro SP2, but booted fine, was kinda surprised, i had windows recreate it anyways just in case...
Lazarann Ideal Machine	Posted - 2007.12.06 19:56:00 - [1331] Edited by: Lazarann on 06/12/2007 19:56:38 Originally by: Furious Hawk Originally by: d1v1n1ty Edited by: d1v1n1ty on 06/12/2007 19:46:12 Originally by: Furious Hawk Edited by: Furious Hawk on 06/12/2007 19:41:31 Ok, well it would appear my computer was not affected, so I'm confused. I did a system restore to the day before Trinity's launch anyway, and took a peek in my C drive root directory. There is no boot file there, yet the computer starts fine. There is however a backup boot file in some other folder, as well as a boot file in the EVE folder (wtf CCP?). boot.ini is a hidden and system file, by default these aren't shown. If your computer boots up fine...you're ok. You probably have a backup (boot.ini.backup) in C:\Windows\pss like I did. When it can't find boot.ini, it uses the backup. However, it does not create a new boot.ini. You can do it yourself though by copying the backup to C:\ and renaming it to boot.ini. I had myself set to view all files, hidden or not. It was not there.
Crawthar	Posted - 2007.12.06 19:57:00 - [1332] Originally by: ndal You need to rename that file to boot.ini and move it to c:\ I would copy it to the c:\ then rename it you might also need to change some properties of the file look at the first page When iv tried renaming the file, my computer tells me i already have a file named boot.ini. Does this mean my computer is ok? Im not certain im looking in the right location for the file in the first place. Can someone help?
Mithrantir Ob'lontra Gallente Ixion Defence Systems The Cyrene Initiative	Posted - 2007.12.06 19:57:00 - [1333] Originally by: Furious Hawk Originally by: d1v1n1ty Edited by: d1v1n1ty on 06/12/2007 19:46:12 Originally by: Furious Hawk Edited by: Furious Hawk on 06/12/2007 19:41:31 Ok, well it would appear my computer was not affected, so I'm confused. I did a system restore to the day before Trinity's launch anyway, and took a peek in my C drive root directory. There is no boot file there, yet the computer starts fine. There is however a backup boot file in some other folder, as well as a boot file in the EVE folder (wtf CCP?). boot.ini is a hidden and system file, by default these aren't shown. If your computer boots up fine...you're ok. I had myself set to view all files, hidden or not. It was not there. Do you by any chance have Windows Vista? If yes boot.ini doesn't exist in Vista ------- Nobody can be exactly like me. Even I have trouble doing it.
Lazarann Ideal Machine	Posted - 2007.12.06 19:58:00 - [1334] Originally by: Crawthar Originally by: ndal You need to rename that file to boot.ini and move it to c:\ I would copy it to the c:\ then rename it you might also need to change some properties of the file look at the first page When iv tried renaming the file, my computer tells me i already have a file named boot.ini. Does this mean my computer is ok? Im not certain im looking in the right location for the file in the first place. Can someone help? Make sure you can see hidden files AND operating system files. The latter is probably why you don't see it. Pretty safe to say though, if it says it's there, it probably is. To check, go to start -> Run and type msconfig. A new window will open, and there should be a tab called boot.ini. If there is, you're fine.
Siri Blue Gallente Arachnea Phoenix Battalion Phalanx Alliance	Posted - 2007.12.06 20:00:00 - [1335] I'Ve just got frakked by eve, warped into a mission, Eve froze, crashed, took my Video drivers with it, sent me to desktop and here I sit with 640x480 pixels a 4mbit colours! HORRID! I found a backup of my boot.ini and managed to patchwork me a new boot.ini my comp would accept... Alas...there is still the problem of that corrupt **** named Trinity patch on my Computer! How the hell do I get rid of this crap!?!?! Is there a small patch to fix the problem or do I have to download a completely new Eve client to be able to play securely again?!?! IF THIS WAS A SINGLEPLAYER GAME I JUST BOUGHT; I'D BRING IT BACK AND INFORM "Verbraucherschutz" WHO WOULD PROLLY SUE THE DEVELOPER OF THIS $&%"*&º
Caiden Soul	Posted - 2007.12.06 20:00:00 - [1336] Re. this post: Quote: Another option we have put together which should be quite simple for users who find their boot.ini to be missing (and have not yet rebooted) is the following: Download: Windows XP (http://ccp.vo.llnwd.net/o2/boot/winxpboot.ini)( also windows 2000 installed in a folder named "Windows" ) OR Windows 2000 (http://ccp.vo.llnwd.net/o2/boot/win2kboot.ini) + Copy it into the root directory of your Windows drive (eg. C:\) + Rename it to "boot.ini" + Go to start, then Run and type in "msconfig" + Click on the "boot.ini" tab, and select "Check all boot paths" + There will be a series of popups for the invalid installation paths in the above files (14 if all goes to plan), and the correct settings will be placed in your boot.ini. + Remember to hit "Apply" before exiting the tool, as this will save the new settings. Most likely, this file will contain the correct path to your windows installation somewhere there, and will be found by checking it using the msconfig tool. I downloaded the file, copied it to my C:\ root directory then ran msconfig There is no "boot.ini" tab or option to select "check all boot paths" So now what do I do?
Poreuomai Minmatar Republic Military School	Posted - 2007.12.06 20:00:00 - [1337] Originally by: Poreuomai If there are still doubts then I'll wait until the weekend before installing the update. Hmm, on the other hand, if it does go wrong tonight, I can use the internet at work tomorrow to find a solution. Ok, deep breath.
Kennet MacDonald	Posted - 2007.12.06 20:01:00 - [1338] Edited by: Kennet MacDonald on 06/12/2007 20:02:59 EDITED Originally by: Cailais Originally by: Kordesh Originally by: Kennet MacDonald Originally by: Kordesh Originally by: Cailais Ok, my PC won't read from the CD Drive, but Ive managed to get it into MS DOS. Is there a way to run a Boot.ini script from my 3.5 drive? If so what do I need to do? My OS is MS XP Home Edition. Thanks. C. If you can get to a prompt and access the drives, navigating to the directory where the boot.ini file is, and typing "copy boot.ini c:\" without quotes should copy the boot.ini file to the correct location. simply restart after that. To get to the prompt, you're most likely going to need a boot disk on a 3.5, which you should be able to create or download just about anywhere at another computer. Won't happen unless he's unfortunate enough to have a fat32 file system - MS DOS has no clue what NTFS is. Yeah forgot about that. I'm not sure why the CD rom wouldn't work. Usually it can at least still load bootable disks. So am I right in thinking my only option is to create a set of 3.5 disk of Win XP and running those? C. Nope. When you turn on your machine, there is usually a prompt like "Press [some key] to enter setup". BE CAREFUL. I CAN'T SEE YOUR SCREEN, SO I CAN'T GUARANTEE THAT I'M DESCRIBING EXACTLY WHAT YOU WILL SEE. Restart and hit that key - then, WITHOUT ACCIDENTALLY CHANGING ANYTHING, you want to look for either: AHCI (in which case you set it to "disable" or SATA Native Mode (in which case you ALSO set it to disable. WRITE DOWN EXACTLY WHAT YOU DID. Exit and reboot (usually f10) Then you will be able to run the system restore and fixboot as described HERE: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/330184/ Then reboot, go BACK into the bios setup, and change everything back to EXACTLY THE WAY IT WAS BEFORE. Then it should work.
Oremarr	Posted - 2007.12.06 20:01:00 - [1339] Edited by: Oremarr on 06/12/2007 20:03:38 Is the biggest screwup in the history of CCCP? If it weren't for Deep-Freeze I would have 6 bricked computers right now, all of them have been restarted, all of them lost boot.ini, but to my luck the file was automatically recovered in seconds from the ghost. P.S. If you have a Linux Live CD or a DOS BootDisk you can just drop the boot.ini in your primary partition and there ya go, problem solved.
Githtakai Gallente	Posted - 2007.12.06 20:01:00 - [1340] So, I recreated the boot.ini file... can I run EVE safely now? The warnings are all in the present tense, implying that if I run EVE again the problem will happen again...
Bluebear8 Orion Ore International	Posted - 2007.12.06 20:01:00 - [1341] Missing your OEM Recovery Disk? If you are lucky to have a DELL computer with warranty, you can call the manufacturer for online support. They will send you the disk if your box is still under warranty. This is why you bought that warranty! Most likely, most of your OEM machines will have similar warranties so you can get something to reboot them in case of this type of catastropic failure. Your computer's warranty should get you a boot disk needed to accomplish the "Microsoft recommended" restoration of your Operating System. I think there is some hope. (People who had a boot disk are back up and running Eve again, already.) Unfortunately, the boot disk will probably take 1-3 days through snail mail to arrive at your doorstep from your computer warranty service. And, this means you will not be back online for a few days. Presumably, a repair shop can accomplish the same result with their usual charges and possibly the same "turnaround" depending on their current backlog. No one should download that premium package, unless they have a boot disk handy. I didn't know about this when I rebooted, so my comp is now down until the package from DELL arrives in a few days. p.s. - If your computer is "out of warranty" and you are not a techno wizard, I suspect you might be up a creek without a paddle. CCP can't help reboot your OS. This is precisely why Eve/CCP have that long page of DISCLAIMERS you click to "ACCEPT" before downloading their new content releases. [And, no. I'm not a programmer, nor do I have the talent or desire to modify any code that says "root", "operating system" or "ini."] p.p.s. - My own error message mentioned a missing file "HAL.INI", which reminded me of the HAL 5000 in the movie "2001, A SPACE ODESSY". Without a warranty, I'd be floating upside down in space trying to repair technology I don't understand.]
Furious Hawk Caldari I-Omniscient-I	Posted - 2007.12.06 20:02:00 - [1342] Edited by: Furious Hawk on 06/12/2007 20:01:46 Originally by: Mithrantir Ob'lontra Do you by any chance have Windows Vista? If yes boot.ini doesn't exist in Vista Nope, I would not be in this thread if I did lol. This is just XP Home Edition SP2. My laptop has XP Pro SP2 on it, and I have not updated EVE at all on that. I want to do a little experimenting, but I take it that the current patch file works properly since they keep talking specifically about "before 0400 GMT"? If the current patch does work fine then I can't experiment. :/
Leigh Crusio	Posted - 2007.12.06 20:02:00 - [1343] Congratulations you just made the tech report lol http://www.techreport.com/ Direct link to article http://www.techreport.com/discussions.x/13748
Crawthar	Posted - 2007.12.06 20:03:00 - [1344] Originally by: Lazarann Make sure you can see hidden files AND operating system files. The latter is probably why you don't see it. Pretty safe to say though, if it says it's there, it probably is. To check, go to start -> Run and type msconfig. A new window will open, and there should be a tab called boot.ini. If there is, you're fine.[/quote It's there. Thank you very much for your help. If only someone had told me that earlier!!! thanx anyone who offered me their help.
Drek Grapper Minmatar	Posted - 2007.12.06 20:03:00 - [1345] Originally by: Kennet MacDonald Originally by: Drek Grapper Originally by: Kennet MacDonald As someone said earlier, you probably need to turn AHCI off in your bios, I'm guessing (probably in Advanced Chipset Features or some such). Windows can't see your drives. Ok well i am one of the poor sods who shut down and can reboot. I have tried to do the Microsoft fix and it wont find/read the disk or list boot files because it cannot find any. It said i must use scandisk to locate errors on the drive..i did and now it says there are are unrecoverable eerros on the drive. Now i am completely stuck. Where can i find info on how to disable the AHCI cos this is really starting to ** me off. Its a flippin ú4000 XPS and its not evne mine ffs! Please help meh! So I can give you appropriate information, if you bought your system, who made it and what is the model number (i.e. HP Pavillion yadda yadda)? Hi Kennet...it worked. I chose the 2nd drive not the first and it let me sign onto admin this time round. It found the files and i am now up and running. Thank you for your offer of help much appreciated. If anyone else is interested ...this link worked for me. If your PC had two drives make sure you choose the right one. Good luck. ------------------------------------------------ 'The thing always happens that you really believe in... and the belief in a thing makes it happen' - Frank Loyd Wright**
Nordhaus Denali's Nomads	Posted - 2007.12.06 20:04:00 - [1346] I was one of the 1st people with this problem yesterday, after divinity suggested the fix from the windows website I was able to get my computer up and running. Now a day later I try and boot my computer....no luck. I turn it on, it goes till the point windows would start to install and then stops. I reboot, and it tells gives me a few options safe mode (starts loading files, then stops), last good configuration (stops), and run normally (stops). I have a restore disk, and the last thing I can think of is to reinstall windows. But I don't want to loose all of my data. Any suggestions?
Ailean Caldaire Caldari School of Applied Knowledge	Posted - 2007.12.06 20:04:00 - [1347] Originally by: Leigh Crusio Congratulations you just made the tech report lol http://www.techreport.com/ Direct link to article http://www.techreport.com/discussions.x/13748 Also up on Digg
12433412	Posted - 2007.12.06 20:05:00 - [1348] heh, somebody must have been real stupid, i saw the deletion of the boot.ini file and it's 'replacement' with another one, but would not have thought in my wildest dreams a silly game would mess with system files in the root directory anyway, thumbs up, guys
Kennet MacDonald	Posted - 2007.12.06 20:06:00 - [1349] Edited by: Kennet MacDonald on 06/12/2007 20:07:27 QUICK AND DIRTY FIX FOR "BOOT DEVICE NOT FOUND" OR BEING UNABLE TO SEE YOUR HARD DRIVES/CD DRIVES This is because your disks and CD-ROM drives are connected in a way that didn't exist (in mass market machines) when Windows XP was released. Here is how to make your computer fake an older system: When you turn on your machine, there is usually a prompt like "Press [some key] to enter setup". It will probably have gone away by the time you figure out what it is. BE CAREFUL. I CAN'T SEE YOUR SCREEN, SO I CAN'T GUARANTEE THAT I'M DESCRIBING EXACTLY WHAT YOU WILL SEE. Restart and hit that key - then, WITHOUT ACCIDENTALLY CHANGING ANYTHING, you want to look for either (probably under "Advanced Chipset Features): AHCI (in which case you set it to "disable" or SATA Native Mode (in which case you ALSO set it to disable. WRITE DOWN EXACTLY WHAT YOU DID. Exit and reboot (usually f10) Then you will be able to run the system restore and fixboot as described HERE: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/330184/ Then reboot, go BACK into the bios setup, and change everything back to EXACTLY THE WAY IT WAS BEFORE. Then it should work.
Kennet MacDonald	Posted - 2007.12.06 20:06:00 - [1350] Originally by: Drek Grapper Originally by: Kennet MacDonald Originally by: Drek Grapper Originally by: Kennet MacDonald As someone said earlier, you probably need to turn AHCI off in your bios, I'm guessing (probably in Advanced Chipset Features or some such). Windows can't see your drives. Ok well i am one of the poor sods who shut down and can reboot. I have tried to do the Microsoft fix and it wont find/read the disk or list boot files because it cannot find any. It said i must use scandisk to locate errors on the drive..i did and now it says there are are unrecoverable eerros on the drive. Now i am completely stuck. Where can i find info on how to disable the AHCI cos this is really starting to **** me off. Its a flippin ú4000 XPS and its not evne mine ffs! Please help meh! So I can give you appropriate information, if you bought your system, who made it and what is the model number (i.e. HP Pavillion yadda yadda)? Hi Kennet...it worked. I chose the 2nd drive not the first and it let me sign onto admin this time round. It found the files and i am now up and running. Thank you for your offer of help much appreciated. If anyone else is interested ...this link worked for me. If your PC had two drives make sure you choose the right one. Good luck. Excellent!! ^.^

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