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Lothris Andastar
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Posted - 2009.01.04 03:54:00 -
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Originally by: tradeding00003 ok, but we can't change the amount of price checks. So we can take t1 item -> we have 456 items for import prices ... we can't select only 20 items.
This is the actual problem.
You can. There is a text filter, try and use it?
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Zathras
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Posted - 2009.01.04 11:42:00 -
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please can somebody tell me how to run this application? It looks to be a webpagebut I have limited knowledge of this.
Thanks
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Hux EmAll
Intergalactic Serenity
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Posted - 2009.01.04 13:30:00 -
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An option would be to have the ability to mark items in the list with the mouse, use shift and ctrl as well. This way, we could select which items should be changed, means which items the prices should be imported for, or which items should receive the "manufacture" marking and a bpo me level set. It is really annoying to move thru the component list and select every item as self-build and me 20 or whatever.
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Wahjoo
Minmatar Ghoulish Endeavors
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Posted - 2009.01.06 21:27:00 -
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I think this is an excellent program. The only thing I have noticed so far that could seriously use some rework is the price import function. I do realize that is a limmitation from eve-central, but there could be workaround this. Maybe, one solution would be to be able to further filter the advanced materials and components by race. I know that would still leave a lot that would have to be imported manualy, but it woulds speed things up some. Also, could there be a way to maybe import prices from other sources, instead of just eve-central? Maybe other sites would not have the same limitation. Over all this is quite impressive might just become the Evemon of invention!
"We were once so close to heaven; Peter came out and gave us medals, declaring us the nicest of the damned." |
Solar Ray
Vanishing Point
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Posted - 2009.01.09 18:11:00 -
[185]
Pretty please give us some advanced filtering options to work around the EVE-Central limitations :) The app hasn't been working for month now. |
Ad Adastra
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Posted - 2009.01.09 20:31:00 -
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Edited by: Ad Adastra on 09/01/2009 20:32:01
Originally by: Lothris Andastar To the last 3 or 4 posters, learn to read.
This is a problem with eve central as detailed earlier in the post. The Admin for eve central has disabled checks for more than 20 items, so reduce your lists to that ammount.
THIS IS NOT A PROBLEM WITH THE CALCULATOR SO PLEASE STOP WHINING ABOUT IT
I did change it around so that less than 20 items where selected. Why you thought I wouldnt read the posts above me and try it first to stop myself looking stupid seems silly to me (although on reflextion the guys after me did it so meh).
EDIT: This is J Carreg.. silly alts
Anyway, here is a screen shot of said problem. I have also tried this on 3 (three) different connections now. All give this error.
http://img148.imageshack.us/my.php?image=inventioncalchb8.jpg
Any help would be appreciated. |
Solar Ray
Vanishing Point
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Posted - 2009.01.10 12:12:00 -
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Originally by: Ad Adastra
Anyway, here is a screen shot of said problem. I have also tried this on 3 (three) different connections now. All give this error.
http://img148.imageshack.us/my.php?image=inventioncalchb8.jpg
Any help would be appreciated.
Windows Firewall? |
J Carreg
Royal industry and research
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Posted - 2009.01.10 15:30:00 -
[188]
Originally by: Solar Ray Windows Firewall?
Windows Firewall is disabled and proper permissions are setup on comodo.
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Solar Ray
Vanishing Point
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Posted - 2009.01.18 11:08:00 -
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Bump with a desperate urge for additional filters to circumvent the new 20-item limit on EVE-CENTRAL. It's been there for too long! Simple shift-click selection will bring all the world peace! |
Karina Redstar
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Posted - 2009.01.19 07:21:00 -
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Simple coding solution: split the query into multiple x 20 items smaller query.
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Acobar
Minmatar
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Posted - 2009.01.19 13:25:00 -
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Originally by: Karina Redstar Simple coding solution: split the query into multiple x 20 items smaller query.
I am sure Burchov is aware of several solution possibilities. All is needed is a little cheer! Let's send some love and ISK in his direction ;) |
Markus Relic
Relic Shipyards
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Posted - 2009.01.19 18:22:00 -
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First of all, great app! Keep up the good work
I think I've found a bug with T2 ship manufacturing when the components are manufactured at a POS and the ship is built in a station. The 1.1 material modifier for the component assembly array is applied to the ship as well as the components, so the materials list comes out way over what it should be as its listing an extra 10% for each component required to build the ship.
And yes, i have checked that all my skills are inputted properly!
It doesn't work right with the modifier for the advanced ship assembly array either - using Ishkur as an example: 5 runs of Ishkur requires 48 x Ion Thruster per run at advanced ship assembly array (assuming a single run ship BPC at ME -4). Multiply this by 5 runs gives 240 Ion Thrusters not 310 as reported by your app. Is this another instance of the app assuming its a 5 run BPC rather then 5 x 1 run BPCs?
Perhaps you could expand the installations tab in the settings to allow multiple installations to be specified depending on the blueprint type? There also needs to be some way of specifying whether there are multiple single-run BPCs or a single multi-run BPC.
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Solar Ray
Vanishing Point
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Posted - 2009.01.21 16:51:00 -
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There might be a workaround for the EVE-C query limit. The invention app uses an XML file for EVE-C queries, which contains all the items and times of their last successful query. If the time is in the future, item will not update. The technique would be then having multiple XML files with 20 items using real time, and all the other items using a future date. The user would need to rename the corresponding XML file into AllItems.xml before running a next query. Still, this would be more convenient than filtering each item by name.
Only problem is that items are listed by their respective ID and the job would take some time. If someone could arrange 20-item XML files for T2 components, minerals, and other building sources, it could be used by this little community. Manufactured goods prices could be set individually then. Anyone up for the task?
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MegabitOne
Caldari The Black Ops Black Core Alliance
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Posted - 2009.01.31 10:11:00 -
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Originally by: Solar Ray There might be a workaround for the EVE-C query limit. The invention app uses an XML file for EVE-C queries, which contains all the items and times of their last successful query. If the time is in the future, item will not update. The technique would be then having multiple XML files with 20 items using real time, and all the other items using a future date. The user would need to rename the corresponding XML file into AllItems.xml before running a next query. Still, this would be more convenient than filtering each item by name.
Only problem is that items are listed by their respective ID and the job would take some time. If someone could arrange 20-item XML files for T2 components, minerals, and other building sources, it could be used by this little community. Manufactured goods prices could be set individually then. Anyone up for the task?
I made a small program that does exactly what you say ! My program reads the xml file, chops it up in 20-item chunks and then queries Eve-Central with those items. I made the interface a look-alike of the InvCalc app, but you will have to tick the regions yourself. I even added two more regions that are not in the InvCalc app .
My program uses your own xml file, meaning that if you haven't retrieved 'all' prices at least once before (the 20-item limit), you will not be able to retrieve the price of each and every item using my program. The work-around for this is to use InvCalc's filter to narrow the selection down to the new item(s) for which you want to retrieve the price. After you used InvCalc for this once, you can use my program to auto-download the other prices since InvCalc will have made a new entry in the xml file.
At current, I don't have a limit on the data refresh time, but I will put this in my next version so that prices are only fetched once every 24h from Eve Central. This to be in line with Eve Central's fair use policy...
If anyone is interested in it, I will look for a way to distribute it.... |
Solar Ray
Vanishing Point
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Posted - 2009.01.31 11:04:00 -
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Originally by: MegabitOne
If anyone is interested in it, I will look for a way to distribute it....
www.eve-files.com
By all means, I think we all are interested.
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amarrcommander
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Posted - 2009.01.31 15:33:00 -
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Somthing never adds up for me.
I look up my build cost for each item and multiply that by 10.
My % of success with invention is about 50% so that is the number I manually inputed which is what shows up on the main screen.
But my profit is always half what it should be. Example -
Lets say an item sells for 1mil Isk. That means for each success I will get 10mil
Lets say my build cost of said item is 400k, so to build 10 that would = 4mil
Lets say each invention try = about 1.6mil, so would be 3.2mil for a success.
My costs are 7.2mil for Building / Success Invention which gives me a profit of 2.8mil isk.
But the program says I only get 1.4mil Isk profit. It does this with just about all items, and I am not talking prices I come up with, I am going straight by the prices the program shows. Anyone else having this issue?
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MegabitOne
Caldari The Black Ops Black Core Alliance
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Posted - 2009.02.02 22:29:00 -
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Originally by: Solar Ray
Originally by: MegabitOne
If anyone is interested in it, I will look for a way to distribute it....
www.eve-files.com
By all means, I think we all are interested.
Because you asked so nicely ;-) EveCentral.zip
or the short link EveCentral.zip --- I'm not as bad-ass as some of my corp mates, but I'll pwn you anyway!
-= In God we trust, all the others pay cash =- |
Lothros Andastar
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.02.03 22:39:00 -
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Edited by: Lothros Andastar on 03/02/2009 22:41:24 Edited by: Lothros Andastar on 03/02/2009 22:40:47 Edited by: Lothros Andastar on 03/02/2009 22:40:23 Hmm, I'm having problems...
XP Pro, 32 bit: Quote: See the end of this message for details on invoking just-in-time (JIT) debugging instead of this dialog box.
************** Exception Text ************** System.Net.WebException: The remote server returned an error: (500) Internal Server Error. at System.Net.HttpWebRequest.GetResponse() at EveCentral.frmMain.GetEveCentralData(String strURL) at EveCentral.frmMain.btnLoadPrices_Click(Object sender, EventArgs e) at System.Windows.Forms.Control.OnClick(EventArgs e) at System.Windows.Forms.Button.OnClick(EventArgs e) at System.Windows.Forms.Button.OnMouseUp(MouseEventArgs mevent) at System.Windows.Forms.Control.WmMouseUp(Message& m, MouseButtons button, Int32 clicks) at System.Windows.Forms.Control.WndProc(Message& m) at System.Windows.Forms.ButtonBase.WndProc(Message& m) at System.Windows.Forms.Button.WndProc(Message& m) at System.Windows.Forms.Control.ControlNativeWindow.OnMessage(Message& m) at System.Windows.Forms.Control.ControlNativeWindow.WndProc(Message& m) at System.Windows.Forms.NativeWindow.Callback(IntPtr hWnd, Int32 msg, IntPtr wparam, IntPtr lparam)
************** Loaded Assemblies ************** mscorlib Assembly Version: 2.0.0.0 Win32 Version: 2.0.50727.3053 (netfxsp.050727-3000) CodeBase: file:///C:/WINDOWS/Microsoft.NET/Framework/v2.0.50727/mscorlib.dll ---------------------------------------- EveCentral Assembly Version: 1.0.0.0 Win32 Version: 1.0.0.0 CodeBase: file:///C:/Documents%20and%20Settings/Giorgio/Local%20Settings/Apps/2.0/YGTR5PX4.M65/E5TG3TTY.BCK/evec..tion_0000000000000000_0001.0000_1eace75e192b58b9/EveCentral.exe ---------------------------------------- System.Windows.Forms Assembly Version: 2.0.0.0 Win32 Version: 2.0.50727.3053 (netfxsp.050727-3000) CodeBase: file:///C:/WINDOWS/assembly/GAC_MSIL/System.Windows.Forms/2.0.0.0__b77a5c561934e089/System.Windows.Forms.dll ---------------------------------------- System Assembly Version: 2.0.0.0 Win32 Version: 2.0.50727.3053 (netfxsp.050727-3000) CodeBase: file:///C:/WINDOWS/assembly/GAC_MSIL/System/2.0.0.0__b77a5c561934e089/System.dll ---------------------------------------- System.Drawing Assembly Version: 2.0.0.0 Win32 Version: 2.0.50727.3053 (netfxsp.050727-3000) CodeBase: file:///C:/WINDOWS/assembly/GAC_MSIL/System.Drawing/2.0.0.0__b03f5f7f11d50a3a/System.Drawing.dll ---------------------------------------- System.Xml Assembly Version: 2.0.0.0 Win32 Version: 2.0.50727.3053 (netfxsp.050727-3000) CodeBase: file:///C:/WINDOWS/assembly/GAC_MSIL/System.Xml/2.0.0.0__b77a5c561934e089/System.Xml.dll ---------------------------------------- System.Configuration Assembly Version: 2.0.0.0 Win32 Version: 2.0.50727.3053 (netfxsp.050727-3000) CodeBase: file:///C:/WINDOWS/assembly/GAC_MSIL/System.Configuration/2.0.0.0__b03f5f7f11d50a3a/System.Configuration.dll ----------------------------------------
************** JIT Debugging ************** To enable just-in-time (JIT) debugging, the .config file for this application or computer (machine.config) must have the jitDebugging value set in the system.windows.forms section. The application must also be compiled with debugging enabled.
For example:
<configuration> <system.windows.forms jitDebugging="true" /> </configuration>
When JIT debugging is enabled, any unhandled exception will be sent to the JIT debugger registered on the computer rather than be handled by this dialog box.
If anyone IS getting this to work, any chance of a Forge Region "Allitems.xml" being uploads? |
DontPodkillMeBro
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Posted - 2009.02.04 04:42:00 -
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Excellent tool, though I was not aware there was a .net update, and was further shocked to learn that Microsoft bundled a nasty little browser add on that installs to Firefox without your consent. But after uninstalling that and getting your tool working it was great. It took me a minute or two to figure out how to refresh the prices from the .xml but after that it's fabulous.
Cheers for a great fix. |
MegabitOne
Caldari The Black Ops Black Core Alliance
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Posted - 2009.02.05 05:51:00 -
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Originally by: Lothros Andastar Edited by: Lothros Andastar on 03/02/2009 22:41:24 Edited by: Lothros Andastar on 03/02/2009 22:40:47 Edited by: Lothros Andastar on 03/02/2009 22:40:23 Hmm, I'm having problems...
XP Pro, 32 bit: Quote: See the end of this message for details on invoking just-in-time (JIT) debugging instead of this dialog box.
************** Exception Text ************** System.Net.WebException: The remote server returned an error: (500) Internal Server Error. at System.Net.HttpWebRequest.GetResponse() at EveCentral.frmMain.GetEveCentralData(String strURL) [snip]
The error is what it says: "The remote server returned an error: (500) Internal Server Error". This means that EveCentral was not able to reply to the request that was sent to it. Maybe EveCentral didn't respond or it took too long to respond or .... I had this error also a few times, but a couple of seconds or minutes later everything worked just fine. I would suggest that you retry to update the prices.
Quote: If anyone IS getting this to work, any chance of a Forge Region "Allitems.xml" being uploads?
The AllItems.xml file only contains information about items, not about regions. The AllItems.xml file I use should contain all items because I once did a 'full' load in the time that EveCentral hadn't limited the number of items to 20. If you don't have such set, I can upload mine if you like...
Originally by: DontPodkillMeBro Excellent tool, though I was not aware there was a .net update, and was further shocked to learn that Microsoft bundled a nasty little browser add on that installs to Firefox without your consent.
Erm, nothing to do with me I'm afraid MS updates its stuff all the time... I didn't have the add-on installed, so either I already had it or it doesn't get installed since I use MSIE. Probably it's something to make .Net better work together with your browser. It doesn't come from my program, that's for sure, hehe --- I'm not as bad-ass as some of my corp mates, but I'll pwn you anyway!
-= In God we trust, all the others pay cash =- |
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Lothros Andastar
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.02.05 13:04:00 -
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Ah I see. It's most likely due to me being in a 3rd world country (Ireland) who has worse internet than bloody Nigeria.
And Yes, an Upload of Allitems.xml would be handy, even if not for me, but for people who may not have gotten a full download :) |
MegabitOne
Caldari The Black Ops Black Core Alliance
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Posted - 2009.02.06 05:30:00 -
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Originally by: Lothros Andastar Ah I see. It's most likely due to me being in a 3rd world country (Ireland) who has worse internet than bloody Nigeria.
And Yes, an Upload of Allitems.xml would be handy, even if not for me, but for people who may not have gotten a full download :)
AllItems.zip contains 1215 items. Although I won't guarantee that it contains all prices, I am sure I loaded all prices several times from the EveCentral server with it... As explained before, it's fairly easy to add new prices by using the InventionCalculator might some price be missing... --- I'm not as bad-ass as some of my corp mates, but I'll pwn you anyway!
-= In God we trust, all the others pay cash =- |
Zzzyxas
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Posted - 2009.02.07 20:15:00 -
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Edited by: Zzzyxas on 07/02/2009 20:23:09 Hey all, I am having problems with the new program megabitone here gave us :)
Every time I try it It either hangs or comes up with a 500 error, one the few times it doesnt it just seems to complete silently and my prices arnt updated in InventionCalc.
Can anyone help me to figure out what I am doing wrong? Its not the program, that seems fine, its just I am a bit dim it seems >.>
Edit: I Tried to get the Allitems.zip file there but I keep getting a 404 error?
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Zzzyxas
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Posted - 2009.02.08 04:50:00 -
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Rite, it turns out I am a colossal idiot, and I got it to work :)
Thank you so much.
Just wondering, is it possible to add to your program filters for different price types (like average, minimum sell etc.) like the Main program Does? |
Eldiora Trade
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Posted - 2009.02.08 05:37:00 -
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please share your knowlege how did you get it to work, i always get error 500 when i type in the url of eve central.
Also how do i get it to work with the program exactly? will it create me an all items file that i need to copy somewhere? |
Zzzyxas
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Posted - 2009.02.08 11:48:00 -
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Originally by: Eldiora Trade please share your knowlege how did you get it to work, i always get error 500 when i type in the url of eve central.
Also how do i get it to work with the program exactly? will it create me an all items file that i need to copy somewhere?
1) Download thr Allitems.xml linked here, just to be on the safe side. 2) Open the Program, select the file, select regions then press get prices. 3) Program will do its thing, may hang a bit. Once its stopped hanging it should be done updating 4) Open InventionCalc, go to Items, select all, select the same regions as EvECentral Did and click update 5) Send MegaBitOne iskies :p
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Stagger Le
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Posted - 2009.02.10 09:36:00 -
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Great tool, been using it for a few weeks now and it's helped no end.
Just one suggestion though...
In the Invention profits section, could you add a "Avg. Profit per hour" or some such, based on invention and manufacturing time. The reason being, it may be more profitable to do 7 x 1 day jobs rather than a single 7 day job. |
MegabitOne
Caldari The Black Ops Black Core Alliance
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Posted - 2009.02.13 05:32:00 -
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Edited by: MegabitOne on 13/02/2009 05:35:32
Originally by: Zzzyxas
1) Download thr Allitems.xml linked here, just to be on the safe side. 2) Open the Program, select the file, select regions then press get prices. 3) Program will do its thing, may hang a bit. Once its stopped hanging it should be done updating 4) Open InventionCalc, go to Items, select all, select the same regions as EvECentral Did and click update 5) Send MegaBitOne iskies :p
So sorry that for some people the 'manual' wasn't clear, but the above sums it up nicely Just to be sure: the AllItems.xml file needs to be in the following location: <InventionCalculator path>\res\Eve-Central\AllItems.xml If you download the copy from the link above, be sure to put it in that same place.
I very much like the iskies bit in point 5 although it's not necessary . I made the "add-on" program to help us all out and to stimulate the developer of the Invention Calculator to keep up the good work.
Originally by: Zzzyxas Just wondering, is it possible to add to your program filters for different price types (like average, minimum sell etc.) like the Main program Does?
The data dowloaded from EveCentral always contains all different price types. The selection on which one to use is done by you inside the InventionCalculator. For example if you download the latest prices from EveCentral with my tool and then go into the InventionCalculator and choose some price with another price type, you will see that the message after the download says something like '0 prices downloaded from EveCentral, x prices from cache'. This means all your prices were already the most recent ones and that he got the other price type straight from the AllItems.xml file. If you open the AllItems.xml file in a browser you will see all price types EveCentral provides for each item... --- I'm not as bad-ass as some of my corp mates, but I'll pwn you anyway!
-= In God we trust, all the others pay cash =- |
Solar Ray
Vanishing Point
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Posted - 2009.02.13 16:33:00 -
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Originally by: MegabitOne
The data dowloaded from EveCentral always contains all different price types. The selection on which one to use is done by you inside the InventionCalculator. For example if you download the latest prices from EveCentral with my tool and then go into the InventionCalculator and choose some price with another price type, you will see that the message after the download says something like '0 prices downloaded from EveCentral, x prices from cache'. This means all your prices were already the most recent ones and that he got the other price type straight from the AllItems.xml file. If you open the AllItems.xml file in a browser you will see all price types EveCentral provides for each item...
Would be nice to get some kind of progress bar on the import, or just an "OK" window, when it's done. A good job otherwise, and a small token of appreciation sent your way.
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Matharos
Dark Canyon Corporation
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Posted - 2009.02.13 19:42:00 -
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Edited by: Matharos on 13/02/2009 19:45:30 I have a bit of a noob question, but it seems that the value for the required materials and datacores is way off, is there a reason for this ?
I check the prices and they all seem ok in the items list
Thanks
Edit: nvm I'm just a bit slow today
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