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Tyrion WarMage	Posted - 2009.02.13 19:50:00 - [211] Just wanted to try the EVE Central App ... can't install it, the installer (of .Net35) just exits with only the generic "inform MS" msg. .. but i've .Net35 installed anyway, so i just renamed the EVECentral.exe.deploy to EVECentral.exe ... Programm starts, an also crashes with the generic msg when i press the load prices button: The Error details are showing a io.fileloadexception ... What now ?
Burchov	Posted - 2009.02.13 21:15:00 - [212] Originally by: Tyrion WarMage What now ? You could download the new version here Though the free time I thought I had wasn't all that much free. Therefore this new version only fixes the EVE-Central price import, and nothing else. Ah well, we'll have to see what the future brings; I certainly haven't abandoned or forgotten about the invention calculator.
Tyrion WarMage	Posted - 2009.02.14 01:19:00 - [213] Originally by: Burchov Originally by: Tyrion WarMage What now ? You could download the new version here Though the free time I thought I had wasn't all that much free. Therefore this new version only fixes the EVE-Central price import, and nothing else. Ah well, we'll have to see what the future brings; I certainly haven't abandoned or forgotten about the invention calculator. At first, thanks for the prompt Answer and the new Version, but Import from EVE Central is not successfull. Only tells "0 imported".... doesn't matter if try all items or <20.
Ennui DeBlase Perkone	Posted - 2009.02.14 11:57:00 - [214] I can't help but get an internal server error (500). (Windows firewall disabled, no other firewall issues, file in (path)\inventioncalculator\res\eve-central\Allitems.xml Vista 32 bit, United States, stable connection. :(
Burchov	Posted - 2009.02.14 15:37:00 - [215] Originally by: Ennui DeBlase After further testing I'll go ahead and apologize for having more edits than useful things to say, but... both that internal server error and the inability of invent calc to update seems to be tied to the <retrievedat></retrievedat> for each item, which in the downloaded file appears to be june of '09? That's what mine said anyways for some reason, and so wasn't updating. A simple find/replace (use word, not notepad, trust me), fixed it. Hopefully that helps some of you. In that case it seems that MegabitOne's application sets the retrievedat to some date in the future, which is fair enough as otherwise the old version would try to retrieve prices from EVE-Central. With the new version that is not needed any more, so you can either replace all the dates, or easier, simply delete the AllItems.xml file. ________ Invention profit calculator
Tyrion WarMage	Posted - 2009.02.14 17:22:00 - [216] Quote: simply delete the AllItems.xml file. Worked fine for me, thx.
Old Nimrod	Posted - 2009.02.16 19:19:00 - [217] Hello. I donwloaded the new version and deleted the allitems.xml file, but I can't import from EVE central anyway. Any idea of what might be wrong?
Pantload The Underpants Gnomes Deep Space Engineering	Posted - 2009.02.18 02:30:00 - [218] Let me just say Thank You very much for all your work on this program. Its totally badass. So the follwing is not a gripe its a bug report: Program seems to miscalculate Rocket Fuel requirement on cruises and torps perhaps other missiles types too but didn't confirm that. Cheers, PL
MegabitOne Caldari The Black Ops Black Core Alliance	Posted - 2009.02.18 05:36:00 - [219] Edited by: MegabitOne on 18/02/2009 05:39:03 Originally by: Burchov Originally by: Ennui DeBlase After further testing I'll go ahead and apologize for having more edits than useful things to say, but... both that internal server error and the inability of invent calc to update seems to be tied to the <retrievedat></retrievedat> for each item, which in the downloaded file appears to be june of '09? That's what mine said anyways for some reason, and so wasn't updating. A simple find/replace (use word, not notepad, trust me), fixed it. Hopefully that helps some of you. In that case it seems that MegabitOne's application sets the retrievedat to some date in the future, which is fair enough as otherwise the old version would try to retrieve prices from EVE-Central. With the new version that is not needed any more, so you can either replace all the dates, or easier, simply delete the AllItems.xml file. I will check that later today, because it shouldn't! It should set the retrievedat to the date and time the last retrieval from Eve-Central was done. Haven't downloaded the new version yet, but by 'fixed the Eve-Central bug', do you mean you built in a similar feature as in my program? That you will hit the Eve-Central server in chunks of 20 items at a time? I appologize for the people having a bit of trouble getting my EveCentral program to run: it was written the quick-and-dirty way because I wanted to fix the Eve-Central problem and not write Office 11 to do it . My program was only ever meant to bypass the Eve-Central download limit until the InventionCalculator incorporates a similar feature... I chose to write EveCentral in C# as this happened to be installed on my computer. Development was done on a Vista SP1 machine with .Net 3.5 installed and using the (free) Microsoft Visual C# 2008 Express Edition. Thanks for not abandoning on us, Burchov! --- I'm not as bad-ass as some of my corp mates, but I'll pwn you anyway! -= In God we trust, all the others pay cash =-
MegabitOne Caldari The Black Ops Black Core Alliance	Posted - 2009.02.18 05:38:00 - [220] Originally by: Solar Ray Would be nice to get some kind of progress bar on the import, or just an "OK" window, when it's done. A good job otherwise, and a small token of appreciation sent your way. I thought about adding a progress bar or at least show the 'busy' cursor, but since it wasn't essential, I left it out. I'll add it.... And thanks for the appreciation, Solar --- I'm not as bad-ass as some of my corp mates, but I'll pwn you anyway! -= In God we trust, all the others pay cash =-

MegabitOne Caldari The Black Ops Black Core Alliance	Posted - 2009.02.18 16:33:00 - [221] Originally by: Burchov Originally by: Tyrion WarMage What now ? You could download the new version here Though the free time I thought I had wasn't all that much free. Therefore this new version only fixes the EVE-Central price import, and nothing else. Ah well, we'll have to see what the future brings; I certainly haven't abandoned or forgotten about the invention calculator. I just downloaded and tested the newest version of the invention calculator and my conclusing is: it rocks I think I can already retire my application since the IC does it all by itself now. I would help you out on the development, but I don't have any Delphi installed on my machine Great language btw, did much Delphi in '93. If you ever write a version in a .Net language, let me know and we'll stick our heads together to implement whatever request or feature is wanted.... Keep up the good work! --- I'm not as bad-ass as some of my corp mates, but I'll pwn you anyway! -= In God we trust, all the others pay cash =-
Lothros Andastar Gallente	Posted - 2009.02.18 18:40:00 - [222] Wow Awesome. Great Work Both of you! megabit, I believe the solution is to Lrn2Delphi :p
eVaLF Delivery Luck	Posted - 2009.02.27 15:39:00 - [223] Edited by: eVaLF on 27/02/2009 15:45:27 Somthing seems off for me. Example - Item Data Base has each Datacore at 200k for testing purposes. Go to look at Warp Disrupter 2's. Shows that it costs 6mil Isk for materials for invention job? Almost all items show a very high cost of invention compared to the numbers it should be. Edit: Made all factories and such cost 0 isk, no tax's, and each Datacore 0isk. Cost of invention materials over 5mil isk for Warp Disrupters. No Items or Decrypters used. What am I doing wrong here and why Can't I get an accurate invention cost. ----- POS FUEL DELIVERY & HIGH & LOW SEC FREIGHTER SERVICES
Aussie Vengeance VersaTech Interstellar Ltd. Southern Cross Alliance	Posted - 2009.03.03 23:54:00 - [224] eVaLF, I had the same thing. Seems the calcs are adding the cost of the Data Interfaces (which are not consumed) to the cost. Fix for me was to make the Data Interfaces cost = 0 isk. And remember to put your other costs back up, or you'll be wondering why you aren't making billions off everything.
Akita T Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force	Posted - 2009.03.05 19:59:00 - [225] No progress on the "profit per slot per day" thing yet, I see _ Create a character \|\| Fit a ship \|\| Get some ISK
Kazuo Ishiguro House of Marbles Zzz	Posted - 2009.03.06 16:17:00 - [226] Or T1 item profit calculation, as far as I can tell. I'm sure it'll be done eventually. --- 20:1 mineral compression ISRC Racing, Season 7 - schedule
corestwo	Posted - 2009.03.08 22:09:00 - [227] Edited by: corestwo on 08/03/2009 22:09:43 I wouldn't mind seeing an option in price imports from eve-central to import prices only from Jita, if this is possible. Other than that it looks like an excellent app, going to very useful as I get into invention. :) <Edit> I guess selecting only "The Forge" approximates this, but a Jita-only option would be nice if it's doable.
Tynenor Whisper Intel And Industry	Posted - 2009.03.09 03:26:00 - [228] Originally by: Kazuo Ishiguro Edited by: Kazuo Ishiguro on 14/04/2008 17:39:44 Suggestion: when updating prices from eve-central, cache them all in ram before writing all of them to disk at once. It's a bit annoying hearing the hard drive going click...click once per second for up to 20 minutes at a time- the only nice thing about this is that I can tell when it's done by listening to my computer Other suggestions: do not include data interface prices when calculating the cost per job (it's relevant when calculating the % return on your isk, though) Add a profit per hour column in the main item list. Time to be calculated as copy time + invention time + build time for one invention job. Where 1 T1 blueprint can be used to invent multiple T2 items, list these separately. Add a '% profit on invested isk' column, calculated as profit / invested isk. Invested isk should include the costs of all materials, interfaces and BPOs required for the job, with the option to exclude BPOs in case people are working with copies bought off the market, or use multiple BPOs (common for cheap module BPOs as it allows for faster copying). Add a '% profit per hour' column, calculated as (% profit on invested isk) / (hours per job), both calculated as described above. Allow people to set an invention formula which returns a value of 1 when it would otherwise be greater than 1. Currently, formulas entered are not validated in this way and it gives rise to misleading indications of profitability. Decryptor auto-selection, for: 1. Best profit per job 2. Best % return per job 3. Best % return per hour per job Cheers to the multiple outputs. Incursus is a prime example. Not that anyone makes enyo's......
Khrillian Minmatar Sebiestor tribe	Posted - 2009.03.09 13:41:00 - [229] Originally by: Akita T No progress on the "profit per slot per day" thing yet, I see Clever way to hide all of the truly profitable items.
VickTheMan Gallente EVE RANGERS CORP	Posted - 2009.03.13 23:13:00 - [230] I think would be usefull to have all T1 items in list, not only that ones used for T2 manufacturing. If that is possible. Great job and thanks.

Tyrion WarMage	Posted - 2009.03.14 14:36:00 - [231] Originally by: Tynenor Originally by: Kazuo Ishiguro Edited by: Kazuo Ishiguro on 14/04/2008 17:39:44 Suggestion: when updating prices from eve-central, cache them all in ram before writing all of them to disk at once. It's a bit annoying hearing the hard drive going click...click once per second for up to 20 minutes at a time- the only nice thing about this is that I can tell when it's done by listening to my computer Other suggestions: do not include data interface prices when calculating the cost per job (it's relevant when calculating the % return on your isk, though) Add a profit per hour column in the main item list. Time to be calculated as copy time + invention time + build time for one invention job. Where 1 T1 blueprint can be used to invent multiple T2 items, list these separately. Add a '% profit on invested isk' column, calculated as profit / invested isk. Invested isk should include the costs of all materials, interfaces and BPOs required for the job, with the option to exclude BPOs in case people are working with copies bought off the market, or use multiple BPOs (common for cheap module BPOs as it allows for faster copying). Add a '% profit per hour' column, calculated as (% profit on invested isk) / (hours per job), both calculated as described above. Allow people to set an invention formula which returns a value of 1 when it would otherwise be greater than 1. Currently, formulas entered are not validated in this way and it gives rise to misleading indications of profitability. Decryptor auto-selection, for: 1. Best profit per job 2. Best % return per job 3. Best % return per hour per job Cheers to the multiple outputs. Incursus is a prime example. Not that anyone makes enyo's...... Would also be very happy to see those improvements, especially the "profit per hour" column. The number of invention jobs is not the limiting factor for invention ... normally it's the (production) time ... so please give us a time base profit calculation.
Mr Mucker Gallente Aliastra	Posted - 2009.03.19 16:15:00 - [232] Originally by: Tyrion WarMage Originally by: Tynenor Originally by: Kazuo Ishiguro Edited by: Kazuo Ishiguro on 14/04/2008 17:39:44 Suggestion: when updating prices from eve-central, cache them all in ram before writing all of them to disk at once. It's a bit annoying hearing the hard drive going click...click once per second for up to 20 minutes at a time- the only nice thing about this is that I can tell when it's done by listening to my computer Other suggestions: do not include data interface prices when calculating the cost per job (it's relevant when calculating the % return on your isk, though) Add a profit per hour column in the main item list. Time to be calculated as copy time + invention time + build time for one invention job. Where 1 T1 blueprint can be used to invent multiple T2 items, list these separately. Add a '% profit on invested isk' column, calculated as profit / invested isk. Invested isk should include the costs of all materials, interfaces and BPOs required for the job, with the option to exclude BPOs in case people are working with copies bought off the market, or use multiple BPOs (common for cheap module BPOs as it allows for faster copying). Add a '% profit per hour' column, calculated as (% profit on invested isk) / (hours per job), both calculated as described above. Allow people to set an invention formula which returns a value of 1 when it would otherwise be greater than 1. Currently, formulas entered are not validated in this way and it gives rise to misleading indications of profitability. Decryptor auto-selection, for: 1. Best profit per job 2. Best % return per job 3. Best % return per hour per job Cheers to the multiple outputs. Incursus is a prime example. Not that anyone makes enyo's...... Would also be very happy to see those improvements, especially the "profit per hour" column. The number of invention jobs is not the limiting factor for invention ... normally it's the (production) time ... so please give us a time base profit calculation. I will second this. Would be a very good feature!
Pessa	Posted - 2009.03.20 20:59:00 - [233] When i activate build profit in the columns, it will always show me 0,00 isk. Build cost and sell price is added....intended?
Divad Ginleek Gallente Gateway Industries House of Mercury	Posted - 2009.03.25 02:15:00 - [234] maybe there is a way to turn it off that I cant see, but it is somewhat annoying that the cost of the data interface is applied to the final profit calculation... which makes almost nothing show any profit at all until you subtract that cost. i don't know about other inventors, but i never count the price of the various data interfaces as part of the analysis of an items profit, since it is an investment (like BPOs, which are not consumed, and have resale value) and not a direct cost to each items production, like datacores. other than that, this is a pretty brilliant piece of software. wish i would have known about it a few months ago. ::insert witty signature here::
Pessa Caldari Nucleus Research	Posted - 2009.03.25 07:27:00 - [235] Originally by: Divad Ginleek maybe there is a way to turn it off that I cant see, but it is somewhat annoying that the cost of the data interface is applied to the final profit calculation... which makes almost nothing show any profit at all until you subtract that cost. i don't know about other inventors, but i never count the price of the various data interfaces as part of the analysis of an items profit, since it is an investment (like BPOs, which are not consumed, and have resale value) and not a direct cost to each items production, like datacores. other than that, this is a pretty brilliant piece of software. wish i would have known about it a few months ago. settings -> items -> data interface set price to 0,00 isk and it should work.
SencneS Amarr Rebellion Against Big Irreversible Dinks	Posted - 2009.03.30 19:27:00 - [236] I like this tool, but it's missing something, or at least I can't find it. I don't have "all" the invention skill, and it's rather annoying that the items are in groups and when I go in game find out I'm missing a skill. I would love a simple filter... "Things I can Invent" It looks at my skills and lists even item I could possibly invent. :) I have not got into invention just yet and I'm just looking for a "What can I do" type thing, This would help the app go a long way. Amarr for Life
Necrnemous Negulesco	Posted - 2009.04.01 01:27:00 - [237] The .exe file has been flagged as a 'trojan-dropper.delf' virus on my A-squared Free virus scanner. I've scanned it with avg free / malwarebytes anti-malware / Avira Antivir Personal and its shows clean on all these. I submitted a query to A3 but nearly a week has passed and no response :-( I reckon its a false positve, but I thought I should drop an FYI for anyone else using A3.
Sir Substance Minmatar MagiTech Alliance Inc. MagiTech Corp	Posted - 2009.04.01 04:23:00 - [238] thanks for the eve central fix (donno if it works yet, im thanking you in advance). this is simply the finest invention calculator in the game, and i cryfased when eve central broke it.
NateX Priory Of The Lemon Atlas Alliance	Posted - 2009.04.05 23:06:00 - [239] In the program it says that Rocket fuel got the m3 of 0, other trade goods might be bugged aswell. --
Sabrina Opgdhana	Posted - 2009.04.10 17:46:00 - [240] Excellent app !



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