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DroneBay Diva
AbChao
Synchr0nicity
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Posted - 2008.04.15 20:43:00 -
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Stealth Chribba boost detected.
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Imperator Jora'h
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Posted - 2008.04.15 20:48:00 -
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Wouldn't it have been simpler to just make shuttles not refine into anything?
Then we could still have our convenient transport for those little jaunts we all take sooner or later as well as removing the price cap.
While it is nice players can add making shuttles to a potentially worthwhile endeavor that is one item I think was better in the NPC sphere to allow for (mostly) uniform coverage.
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Haradgrim
Tyrell Corp
INTERDICTION
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Posted - 2008.04.15 20:48:00 -
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 Originally by: DroneBay Diva
Stealth Chribba boost detected.
Nerf Veldspar, its overpowered!
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Patch86
Di-Tron Heavy Industries
Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2008.04.15 20:53:00 -
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Dang. I always liked shuttles as a last resort public-service transport, available anywhere. If I have to buy the ruddy thing for near a million isk, I might as well just use frigates instead...
Funny though. Saw a Letter To The Editor in the newspaper earlier with exactly the same title as the OP, only with "bread". EVE really is Real World Lite...
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Kyra Felann
Gallente
Noir.
Tread Alliance
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Posted - 2008.04.15 20:58:00 -
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Wow, awesome. That's cool that there is no artificial limit on veldspar prices now. Not that I'm a miner, but a more dynamic economy is a good thing.
If the price gets high enough, more people will mine it and the price will stabilize.
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Iracham
Gallente
Center for Advanced Studies
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Posted - 2008.04.15 21:03:00 -
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Artificial price cap bad.
Cheap shuttles everywhere good.
This is teh dumb.
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Selene Bork
Caldari
Order of the Argent Shroud
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Posted - 2008.04.15 21:04:00 -
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Nerf Chribba, he's getting to powerfull !
Hehe only joking 
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Sirius Problem
Darkness Inc.
Arcane Alliance
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Posted - 2008.04.15 21:06:00 -
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Even more reason for bears to stay in hi-sec.
Nice one CCP. What happened to the effort to make low-sec more, not less, attractive?
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Wendat Huron
Stellar Solutions
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Posted - 2008.04.15 21:11:00 -
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Bad move, before long everyone will be flying noob ships instead.
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Tarminic
Forsaken Resistance
The Last Stand
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Posted - 2008.04.15 21:12:00 -
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Originally by: Wendat Huron
Bad move, before long everyone will be flying noob ships instead.
You can't refine n00b ships for trit. 
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Wendat Huron
Stellar Solutions
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Posted - 2008.04.15 21:15:00 -
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Originally by: Tarminic
Originally by: Wendat Huron
Bad move, before long everyone will be flying noob ships instead.
You can't refine n00b ships for trit.
Who cares? If people need to get places they'll bop around in pods or noob ships, the shuttle is dead.
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Quelque Chose
Gallente
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Posted - 2008.04.15 21:17:00 -
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Originally by: Tarminic
You can't refine n00b ships for trit.
So why didn't they just do that to shuttles? Being able to grab a shuttle anywhere is going to be missed I think.
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Letrange
Minmatar
Chaosstorm Corporation
Apoapsis Multiversal Consortium
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Posted - 2008.04.15 21:18:00 -
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-.-;
Shuttles for 1 mil. That won't last long. Pretty soon the price will be sub-10k in empire. Availability will be the issue. They are cheap as heck to make.
/me dusts off his shuttle BPO
I knew this would come in handy eventually :P
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Tarminic
Forsaken Resistance
The Last Stand
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Posted - 2008.04.15 21:19:00 -
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Originally by: Quelque Chose
Originally by: Tarminic
You can't refine n00b ships for trit.
So why didn't they just do that to shuttles? Being able to grab a shuttle anywhere is going to be missed I think.
Why make static content more static when you can make it more player driven? Unfortunately the side effect is that this will annoy people until the markets are populated again.
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Patch86
Di-Tron Heavy Industries
Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2008.04.15 21:23:00 -
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Originally by: Tarminic
Originally by: Quelque Chose
Originally by: Tarminic
You can't refine n00b ships for trit.
So why didn't they just do that to shuttles? Being able to grab a shuttle anywhere is going to be missed I think.
Why make static content more static when you can make it more player driven? Unfortunately the side effect is that this will annoy people until the markets are populated again.
Ah, you're missing the bigger problem. The only reason people really flew shuttles was because they were essentially free. If a shuttle isn't essentially free any more (less than 50k, say), people will just use something else (noob ships or pods if they want something free, frigs if they want to pay for something).
The shuttle (a not particularly fast, badly armoured ship with no slots and no redeeming features other than price and availability) is a dead donkey.
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Iracham
Gallente
Center for Advanced Studies
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Posted - 2008.04.15 21:24:00 -
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Raising the npc price of shuttles to say, 50k, would effectively uncap trit, while not annoying the smeg out of everybody for the next 2 weeks.
Also, WHY ARE CHANGES LIKE THIS NOT IN THE PATCH NOTES?
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Alowishus
mUfFiN fAcToRy
Sex Panthers
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Posted - 2008.04.15 21:24:00 -
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I had this crazy idea to buy every shuttle in Jita 4-4 the other day. I don't even know why. I didn't do it and now I am sad 
I think the better option would have been to make them not give a noteworthy amount of trit.
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Ikserak tai
Caldari
Ghengis Tia Corp
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Posted - 2008.04.15 21:25:00 -
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Any news on a move in price of Tritanium would be appreciated, as Eve-Central is not current enough after the patch.
I won't be able to logon in-game until later tonight....
Thanks in advance...
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Quelque Chose
Gallente
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Posted - 2008.04.15 21:27:00 -
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Originally by: Tarminic
Why make static content more static when you can make it more player driven? Unfortunately the side effect is that this will annoy people until the markets are populated again.
I can see where you're coming from on that one but (hopefully) without stirring up the hornets' nest of RL political economic hullaballoo I think this is going to be one of those cases where the private sector isn't going to do nearly as good a job. There's no way the free market is going to cover every station and doesn't that severely limit the shuttle's appeal?
I could be wrong I guess, it's probably worth finding out anyway. But yeah, regardless it's going to be pretty entertaining for a couple of weeks. 
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Imperator Jora'h
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Posted - 2008.04.15 21:32:00 -
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Originally by: Patch86
Ah, you're missing the bigger problem. The only reason people really flew shuttles was because they were essentially free.
Free and almost universally available which to me is almost more an issue than the cost (as long as cost is not too high).
Mostly it was the convenience factor. While I appreciate what Tarminic is getting at unless shuttles are seeded in every system in most every station by players (extremely doubtful) then the shuttle will lose acceptance.
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Franga
NQX Innovations
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Posted - 2008.04.15 21:35:00 -
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Posting ... now.
Originally by: Rachel Vend
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Mister Xerox
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Posted - 2008.04.15 21:38:00 -
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Originally by: Iracham
Raising the npc price of shuttles to say, 50k, would effectively uncap trit, while not annoying the smeg out of everybody for the next 2 weeks.
Also, WHY ARE CHANGES LIKE THIS NOT IN THE PATCH NOTES?
Large Control Towers
Small Tractor Beam Blueprint I
Those who've been around know what happened with those and patch notes.
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Wendat Huron
Stellar Solutions
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Posted - 2008.04.15 21:40:00 -
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Shuttles had stopped being a factor if only the NPC price had been hiked to 50-100k and possibly their cargohold at least doubled to justify the increase but with this sledgehammer nerf they're quite useless.
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Imperator Jora'h
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Posted - 2008.04.15 21:42:00 -
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Originally by: Iracham
Also, WHY ARE CHANGES LIKE THIS NOT IN THE PATCH NOTES?
Actually if you look it seems like they snuck the change into the notes after DT. Presumably they did not want people running around buying a million shuttles with news of this beforehand (just a guess).
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Ikserak tai
Caldari
Ghengis Tia Corp
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Posted - 2008.04.15 21:44:00 -
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Price of Tritanium in Jita is now 6.15 Isk. Most regions are climbing over the 5.0 Isk mark. Quantities were hoarded and now being put on market at significantly higher prices.
Think the asteroid belts will be full this weekend????
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Quelque Chose
Gallente
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Posted - 2008.04.15 21:49:00 -
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Originally by: Ikserak tai
Price of Tritanium in Jita is now 6.15 Isk. Most regions are climbing over the 5.0 Isk mark. Quantities were hoarded and now being put on market at significantly higher prices.
Think the asteroid belts will be full this weekend????
I don't see that lasting very long tbh.
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Wendat Huron
Stellar Solutions
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Posted - 2008.04.15 21:56:00 -
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Originally by: Quelque Chose
Originally by: Ikserak tai
Price of Tritanium in Jita is now 6.15 Isk. Most regions are climbing over the 5.0 Isk mark. Quantities were hoarded and now being put on market at significantly higher prices.
Think the asteroid belts will be full this weekend????
I don't see that lasting very long tbh.
You mean with barges being constantly suicided on en masse?
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Ikserak tai
Caldari
Ghengis Tia Corp
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Posted - 2008.04.15 22:02:00 -
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Barges? I mean everyone with turret slots and miner I's who want in on the gold rush.
Everyone who are used to buying their trit to mfr ships will think twice and maybe go get their own.
Besides, there are lots of out of the way places Jihadswarm can't possibly cover.
Does the "may you live in interesting times" apply here?
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Quelque Chose
Gallente
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Posted - 2008.04.15 22:05:00 -
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Originally by: Wendat Huron
You mean with barges being constantly suicided on en masse?
That's hype, nothing to see there.
Although it just occurred to me if they're going to do this they need to change the way shuttles appear in the market window. Instead of Ships -> Shuttles -> Racial Shuttle -> the one and only model that appears in that category; it should just be Ships -> Shuttles, whereupon you get shown the list of four. It was clunky and ridiculous before, doubly so now.
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Shaun Klaroh
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Posted - 2008.04.15 22:16:00 -
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A price cap on Tritanium is damaging to the economy. Let alone with recent issues surrounding Goonswarm, this may deter them only slightly with increased Tritanium costs.
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