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Cpt Hound
Republic Military School
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Posted - 2008.04.16 10:27:00 -
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Some of you have just no clue.
The price of the shuttles skyrocketed simply because few people were actually producing them. They saw this opertunity to increase the price to millions. When new manufactures come in the price of the shuttles will lower to a sane prices, they will probably level out at 15000 - 20000 isk. Same thing will happen to the tritanium price, people will flock in and mine tritanium causing fluctuation on the market and then level out at a normal price after a while.
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Ordon Gundar
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Posted - 2008.04.16 10:30:00 -
[182]
 Originally by: Cpt Hound
Some of you have just no clue.
The price of the shuttles skyrocketed simply because few people were actually producing them. They saw this opertunity to increase the price to millions. When new manufactures come in the price of the shuttles will lower to a sane prices, they will probably level out at 15000 - 20000 isk. Same thing will happen to the tritanium price, people will flock in and mine tritanium causing fluctuation on the market and then level out at a normal price after a while.
Correct...like I said before, short-term boom followed by bust and settling of the market. For all those calling for Trit nerfs, well, all that would do is put the market in a constant left-right march from panic to panic and end stability.
Make money from shuttles while you can, make hay while the sun shines people!
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Ashlee Darksky
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Posted - 2008.04.16 10:47:00 -
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I'm simply saying things will be more expensive because trit prices will go up because there is no artificial cap provided by shuttles any more.
I'm not saying this is a bad thing, in fact it's good for me because my goods will sell for more. What I am saying is this;
If this causes instability in the market then CCP shouldn't take a knee-jerk reaction and start nerfing things because of people whining on the forums.
Repeat the mantra "No nerfs, nerfs are bad"
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Rakshasa Taisab
Caldari
Sane Industries Inc.
Ursa Stellar Initiative
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Posted - 2008.04.16 10:49:00 -
[184]
Originally by: Ordon Gundar
Correct...like I said before, short-term boom followed by bust and settling of the market. For all those calling for Trit nerfs, well, all that would do is put the market in a constant left-right march from panic to panic and end stability.
I was under the impression that the only shuttles on market were those put up by people hoping someone would buy an overpriced shuttle by accident.
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adriaans
Amarr
Advanced Capital Ship Designs
Hephaestus Rising
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Posted - 2008.04.16 10:52:00 -
[185]
ohh great...insane ship prices here we come... :(
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Support the introduction of Blaze M crystals for Amarr!
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Fulbert
Gallente
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Posted - 2008.04.16 10:55:00 -
[186]
At last, i'm gonna making more than 10 millions per hour with my Hulk
Time to buy some Veldspar crystals :D
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Tobias Sjodin
Ore Mongers
Black Hand.
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Posted - 2008.04.16 11:16:00 -
[187]
I love this change. Daring and a dash of the old CCP in the workings.
Awesome CCP!
Black Hand.
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Phoenix Torp
Caldari
Kingmakers
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Posted - 2008.04.16 11:16:00 -
[188]
Finally i won't see evermore that ****ty and ugly ships...
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SiJira
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Posted - 2008.04.16 12:40:00 -
[189]
insurance?
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Hemroid
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Posted - 2008.04.16 13:15:00 -
[190]
This is indeed an outrage, but in all respect and in all fairness it is due. I wouldn't say that because of the price cap on trit, but just the fact that shuttles were widely available and now they are not going to be.
May we live in interesting times?
Remember EVE is suppose to be a cold dark place.
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Allaria Kriss
Minmatar
Elipse Inc.
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Posted - 2008.04.16 13:34:00 -
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Edited by: Allaria Kriss on 16/04/2008 13:35:55
I see this change in three ways: Good, bad, and ugly.
GOOD:
1) It gives new players something worth manufacturing.
2) It opens up a new market.
3) It uncaps the price of tritanium.
BAD:
1) Shuttles take too long to build.
2) Shuttles aren't profitable enough to spend time building except for the very, very new.
3) Shuttles are tough to move around en masse because they take up a lot of cargo space.
UGLY:
1) Shuttles will no longer be available in remote systems, which was their primary asset.
2) There were many, many better ways to execute this change.
3) The only people who will be interested in BUILDING shuttles will not have the skills to SELL a lot of them due to sell order limits.
All in all, I'm not against the adjustment of the tritanium price cap, but I'm against the way this change was done. They need to devise a new method of keeping cheap, reliable transportation available without having to rely on rookie ships or pods.
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Vixisti
Hammer 0f Dawn
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Posted - 2008.04.16 13:46:00 -
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Edited by: Vixisti on 16/04/2008 13:46:11
Pods all over the place after DT, well this takes away the buffer from losing your clone when travelling that was there before, so expect to see lots of smartbombing bs's in low sec from now on, griefing.
Bad way to raise the trit cap IMO. They should have simply made shuttles unrefinable. They should be a means of transport not an economic tool.
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Fifth Horseman
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Posted - 2008.04.16 14:03:00 -
[193]
Could have just doubled the NPC price of shuttles.
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Kirana Si
Idle Miners
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Posted - 2008.04.16 14:08:00 -
[194]
/me undocks in pod and starts scanning out abadoned shuttles 
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Casino Alkasar
Caldari
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Posted - 2008.04.16 14:40:00 -
[195]
Bad + lazy fix!
They should have rather made shuttels not worth
refining. Would have been much better.
Now you have another useless ship
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umop 3pisdn
Minmatar
Fnck the blob.
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Posted - 2008.04.16 14:54:00 -
[196]
Edited by: umop 3pisdn on 16/04/2008 14:54:33
Originally by: Vixisti
Edited by: Vixisti on 16/04/2008 13:46:11
Pods all over the place after DT, well this takes away the buffer from losing your clone when travelling that was there before, so expect to see lots of smartbombing bs's in low sec from now on, griefing.
How stupid are some people.
You do not even deserve your velator OR the gratifying gift of tritanium.
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Vixisti
Hammer 0f Dawn
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Posted - 2008.04.16 14:56:00 -
[197]
And this add something to the topic?
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umop 3pisdn
Minmatar
Fnck the blob.
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Posted - 2008.04.16 14:58:00 -
[198]
Originally by: Vixisti
And this add something to the topic?
Yes, I was reminding you that you get a free noob ship whenever you dock in a pod or get podded to a station where you have no ships, this changes nothing except how long it will take people to afk around high sec.
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Christari Zuborov
Amarr
Ore Mongers
Black Hand.
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Posted - 2008.04.16 15:10:00 -
[199]
Edited by: Christari Zuborov on 16/04/2008 15:11:53
Excellent move CCP!
Removing price caps allows the player base to price at what they are capable of creating in supply chains, rather than the ultra-rich simply refining loads of equipment at capped prices.
Here's to the removal of ALL NPC sold items!
When can we start producing trade goods? POS supplies???
POS supplies would be the ULTIMATE market to get into, it's an item that is ALWAYS consumed, a never ending demand!
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Wendat Huron
Stellar Solutions
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Posted - 2008.04.16 15:20:00 -
[200]
Originally by: Christari Zuborov
Edited by: Christari Zuborov on 16/04/2008 15:11:53
Excellent move CCP!
Removing price caps allows the player base to price at what they are capable of creating in supply chains, rather than the ultra-rich simply refining loads of equipment at capped prices.
Here's to the removal of ALL NPC sold items!
When can we start producing trade goods? POS supplies???
POS supplies would be the ULTIMATE market to get into, it's an item that is ALWAYS consumed, a never ending demand!
You're saying this while making a bid on some drone region property?
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Christari Zuborov
Amarr
Ore Mongers
Black Hand.
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Posted - 2008.04.16 15:27:00 -
[201]
Originally by: Wendat Huron
Originally by: Christari Zuborov
Edited by: Christari Zuborov on 16/04/2008 15:11:53
Excellent move CCP!
Removing price caps allows the player base to price at what they are capable of creating in supply chains, rather than the ultra-rich simply refining loads of equipment at capped prices.
Here's to the removal of ALL NPC sold items!
When can we start producing trade goods? POS supplies???
POS supplies would be the ULTIMATE market to get into, it's an item that is ALWAYS consumed, a never ending demand!
You're saying this while making a bid on some drone region property?
Eh? I've no knowledge of that... You thinking of SmashKill?
But if my corp were to move to drone regions, I still don't see how that response relates to my post? Unless you're saying that somehow I'd be interested in refining drone loot...
If that's where you're getting at, pft... I'd rather do more cognitive industrial activities, such as moon mining, or complex reactions, AND TRADE GOODS! YES TRADE GOODS!
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Fifth Horseman
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Posted - 2008.04.16 15:28:00 -
[202]
Originally by: umop 3pisdn
this changes nothing except how long it will take people to afk around high sec.
And whether you can escape a dock camp at an unfamiliar station.
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Lubomir Penev
interimo
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Posted - 2008.04.16 15:31:00 -
[203]
Originally by: Patch86
The shuttle (a not particularly fast, badly armoured ship with no slots and no redeeming features other than price and availability) is a dead donkey.
Your empire war experience is lacking I guess.
Shuttle is still the fastest aligning ship, escaping all non bubble camps save very bad lag.
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Letrange
Minmatar
Chaosstorm Corporation
Apoapsis Multiversal Consortium
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Posted - 2008.04.16 15:44:00 -
[204]
/me shakes his head in wonder
(to all the PvP who actually don't mind the shuttle/trit boost we're getting: ignore this, it's not directed at you)
To all the PvP "whine whine no shuttles whine whine":
Grow some balls would you? you have ZERO understanding of the eve market evidently. If you've ever bothered to look at the distribution of noob frigates (Slasher, Atron, Condor and Executioner in case you've forgotten). You'd know that this won't be a problem beyond the next week or two. Most places you'd want to buy a shuttle will have some in stock within a day or two, your corp (cuz unless you're in a one man corp it'll have someone with a modicum of common sense in it) will lay in a supply of shuttles in the offices. This knee-jerk reaction you seem to be having could best be described by removing the word "knee".
As for the low sec pirates *****ing about lack of shuttles?:
ROFLMAO
man this change is just chuck full of WIN.
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Tarminic
Forsaken Resistance
The Last Stand
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Posted - 2008.04.16 16:00:00 -
[205]
Originally by: Lubomir Penev
Originally by: Patch86
The shuttle (a not particularly fast, badly armoured ship with no slots and no redeeming features other than price and availability) is a dead donkey.
Your empire war experience is lacking I guess.
Shuttle is still the fastest aligning ship, escaping all non bubble camps save very bad lag.
Shuttles align faster than pods? 
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Tobias Sjodin
Ore Mongers
Black Hand.
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Posted - 2008.04.16 16:08:00 -
[206]
Originally by: Tarminic
Originally by: Lubomir Penev
Originally by: Patch86
The shuttle (a not particularly fast, badly armoured ship with no slots and no redeeming features other than price and availability) is a dead donkey.
Your empire war experience is lacking I guess.
Shuttle is still the fastest aligning ship, escaping all non bubble camps save very bad lag.
Shuttles align faster than pods?
A pod is a ship?
Black Hand.
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Chomin H'ak
The Trivenerate
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Posted - 2008.04.16 16:28:00 -
[207]
Edited by: Chomin H''ak on 16/04/2008 16:32:17
I crapped my pants when I logged on after being horribly sick for a week and a half. I had been hoarding and buying low end minerals from my mates to build BS's to make some moneys.... Oh yeah, and I thought I'd try out some buy orders (as a goof) and put in for Min and Amarr shuttles.
I love you CCP. Our corp will be handing out gold-plated soup spoons and fruit baskets to the next 30 applicants ^^
To everyone else who isn't looking at the glass as half full? 
Edit: Shuttles are one of the fastest aligning, most agile ships (for under a hefty sum... oops) and the 10m3 cargo will carry 1000 items weighing 0.01m3.
Want one? I'm selling...
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Fulbert
Gallente
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Posted - 2008.04.16 16:29:00 -
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If you are locked when you're in a shuttle, you lose the shuttle and you should be able to escape (in pod)
If you are locked when you're a pod, then you die.
And shuttles have a 5 m3 cargohold : useful for the lowsec courrier missions...
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Fulbert
Peon |
Tarminic
Forsaken Resistance
The Last Stand
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Posted - 2008.04.16 16:34:00 -
[209]
Originally by: Tobias Sjodin
A pod is a ship?
When it comes to gate camps, I don't think there's much of a difference honestly. If you can't warp before you're locked in a pod, you won't be able to in a shuttle either. Of course, with a shuttle there's a small chance lag will help you out if you mash the warp button as you go down.
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Crawler
Gallente
Solar Wind
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Posted - 2008.04.16 16:43:00 -
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man this really suck well who the hell will even buy a shuttle now.
might as well ge a small frigate its cheaper and they are selling at more stations
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