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Hast The Illuminati. Cruel Intentions	Posted - 2008.05.10 11:08:00 - [511] I lol at this thread and I lol at eddz. CRY MORE PLEASE Originally by: omeega PICTURE TOO BIG, KGB INCOMING HAVE FUN.
Kay Han Caldari Stardust Heavy Industries Majesta Empire	Posted - 2008.05.10 11:30:00 - [512] Originally by: NokNok Edited by: NokNok on 10/05/2008 07:48:32 Originally by: Akov Stohs I guess the problem is that I have no real fear of titans. I see them as giant targets rather then some evil menace. Some one mentions a hostile titan, I salivate. Different perspectives I suppose. Same perspective here, for one titan, even two. But when you stack more of them... Never thought that i¦ll say this. But i fully agree with Nok. a single titan isnt a big deal. With 2 titans it gets a bit harder, but it¦s still managable.. But everything more. Maybe to give titans the state of a "status symbol" just allow one titan per alliance. But even then alliances will create, and already have, Muppet alliances to get more titans available... Originally by: CCP Atropos Personally I think Amarr ships should consume slaves in a similar way that other ships consume ammunition.
Ghaelsto Kakram Mindgamers	Posted - 2008.05.10 17:27:00 - [513] Originally by: Kay Han Maybe to give titans the state of a "status symbol" just allow one titan per alliance. But even then alliances will create, and already have, Muppet alliances to get more titans available... How about 1 Titan per 1000 members? Every remaining Titan above this will be exchanged for 5 Moms. (Note the sarcasm)
Idaeus GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.05.10 17:36:00 - [514] Originally by: Hey You What stopped Goons? We want good fights.
Ariko Gunaris Gallente Office of Ganking and Commerce	Posted - 2008.05.10 17:36:00 - [515] Edited by: Ariko Gunaris on 10/05/2008 17:36:07 Originally by: Hast I lol at this thread and I lol at eddz. CRY MORE PLEASE Exactly what I thought. This thread is like, "Look, I'm KIA Eddz, incompetent leader of a failed alliance! Pay attention to me and answer my questions! No? WAhh wahh! "
Batolemaeus Caldari Batolemaeus Corp	Posted - 2008.05.10 18:00:00 - [516] Meh. I do not post here normally, my forums are game development&suggestions. But, all political stuff aside, i want to show some support to KIAEddZ. We might not be on the same side, nor do i really like you, but you are right. I would not be sad to see the titans changed completely and their dd removed. They have great potential, but as a weapon of mass destruction without even a stackingpenalty, it fails horribly. Titans and cynojammers are tools that are horrible deterrands for fights. Combine them, and you have an impenetratable defense, that will even keep multiple waves of enemies twice, triple or quadruple your size away. Lock down a chokepoint, keep everything cynojammed, and the enemy can fly home again without a chance to get into your space. If he tries to jump in, he will die before loading grid at all, and the rest will die to autoaggressing fighters. Capfleets have turned 0.0 warfare into a huge grind, and titans are even worse. There are some great ideas about titans being changed into real mobile stations, even changing them in a way that their pilot can leave them and go fly something else while his titan is deployed. So many good ideas, that would make warfare a bit more dynamic and titans into something of great value in the same time..
Groox Enterprise Estonia Veritas Immortalis	Posted - 2008.05.10 18:25:00 - [517] There should be a anti-titan weapon able to cripple titan but not destroy. Ability to send titan back to shipyard for weeks for repairs. Let's say specific type of sub-capital ship or even better couple of ships working in team in order to fire that weapon.
Moonlight Express Amarr Moonlight Express Inc.	Posted - 2008.05.10 19:06:00 - [518] So let's say Titans get removed. What will happened to the blob warfare? Will there be a counter to 2K in system in shuttles?
WeightedCompanionCube Aperture Science Enrichment Center	Posted - 2008.05.10 19:10:00 - [519] Originally by: Moonlight Express So let's say Titans get removed. What will happened to the blob warfare? Will there be a counter to 2K in system in shuttles? How many times has this happened before Titans were introduced ?
Tzrailasa Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.05.10 19:28:00 - [520] Originally by: Batolemaeus Lock down a chokepoint, keep everything cynojammed, and the enemy can fly home again without a chance to get into your space. If he tries to jump in, he will die before loading grid at all, and the rest will die to autoaggressing fighters. This is clearly the tactic that all alliances will dedicate their all-sacrificing member base to 23/7 the whole year round Oh, and fighters don't auto-agress. They only respond when you shoot either their carrier or themselves. If you're lagged out you normally don't shoot anything. If titans WERE such insurmountable obstacles, we'd experience that too. MC/cohorts had what, 3? RA/pets had more than we did. We think of them as targets though, not obstacles. Maybe thats the reason nobody dares use their titans against us.... In essence, this entire thread is not so much a whine about titans. It is mainly a bunch of people moaning that we aren't dead, and trying desperately to find another reason than their own suckiness.... My views are my own. They do not represent the views of my corporation or alliance.
Ghaelsto Kakram Mindgamers	Posted - 2008.05.10 21:06:00 - [521] Originally by: Moonlight Express So let's say Titans get removed. What will happened to the blob warfare? Will there be a counter to 2K in system in shuttles? Do conga lines in Jita count?
Apolluon Gallente Aetas Inculta	Posted - 2008.05.11 00:21:00 - [522] Originally by: wamingo Your words have truely added something valuable to this discussion, Apolluon. May your divine wisdom grace the world like it has me. Furthermore,
JonVe The Greater Goon GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.05.11 01:00:00 - [523] ** I can imagine the massive cluster** that would result for BoB if Titans were just removed completely one day without notice. It makes my eyes tear.
Deki 4S Corporation Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2008.05.11 02:19:00 - [524] Originally by: JonVe ** I can imagine the massive cluster** that would result for BoB if Titans were just removed completely one day without notice. It makes my eyes tear. I would be sad panda aswell
mamolian Eternity INC.	Posted - 2008.05.11 03:36:00 - [525] Just delete the entire ship class -----------
Alex Salas BROTHERHOOD OF SPARTA Dominatus Phasmatis	Posted - 2008.05.11 03:39:00 - [526] Edited by: Alex Salas on 11/05/2008 03:43:36 Edited for added content. I am working off a mixture of ideas presented earlier. Perhaps DD weapons needs special fuel (not stront or racial isotopes) that can only be acquired through moon mining. These rare moons can only be found in 0.0. Pluses include: may be the carrot the carebears need to start their own space grab, heightens the prudence on the titan pilot, knowing it may take months or billions of isk to get the fuel to fire another DD, ISK sink for huge 0.0 powerhouse alliances. The execution would happen by informing the community of seeded new moons one patch before the actual fuel driven DD takes place. This allows enough lead time for moons to be scanned and mined so titans are not totally gimped when the patch arrives.
xHomicide Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2008.05.11 14:14:00 - [527] Edited by: xHomicide on 11/05/2008 14:15:48 Change the DD to a weapon that instantly disables the warp drives of all ships on grid for 10 minutes. The resulting battles would be ***** epic instead of ***** lame. --- Razor CEI
posteroid im right your wrong	Posted - 2008.05.11 14:39:00 - [528] Ive looked at the other thread about this and tbh removing totally the damage from a ddd would be a big mistake. If it becomes just a large ewar ship or loses its dmg DDD its been pointed out that BS would be a expensive waste of money for 0.0 wars when you can buy 40 or more cruisers for the same price as a t2 sniper and just zerg systems. Although i agree with the idea of reducing the range to 100-150km and perhaps limiting how many can be fired on grid per hour or so are good ideas as it would still be a good anti-cruiser/frig spam ship but also be vulnerable to snipers and would need to be used more tacticaly.
Chee Minmatar hirr Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2008.05.11 15:18:00 - [529] Originally by: Alex Salas Edited by: Alex Salas on 11/05/2008 03:43:36 Perhaps DD weapons needs special fuel (not stront or racial isotopes) that can only be acquired through moon mining. These rare moons can only be found in 0.0. I think eve has enough fueds over rare moons already :)
Brigitte S.A.S Ministry Of Amarrian Secret Service	Posted - 2008.05.11 17:32:00 - [530] Originally by: xHomicide Edited by: xHomicide on 11/05/2008 14:15:48 Change the DD to a weapon that instantly disables the warp drives of all ships on grid for 10 minutes. The resulting battles would be ***** epic instead of *** lame. well yea good idea or even webb / scramble all on field so the nano**ets dont run off and hide
Alex Salas BROTHERHOOD OF SPARTA Dominatus Phasmatis	Posted - 2008.05.11 19:01:00 - [531] Originally by: Chee I think eve has enough fueds over rare moons already :)[/quote The aim is something that can't easily being macro'ed.
War Bear Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2008.05.11 21:28:00 - [532] I wouldn't mind seeing a Titan nerf as long as they're given some way of defending themselves. Batteries of flak for small ships\drones\fighters perhaps, long range weapons to counter snipers maybe. I'd love to see a Titan be able to make something that looks like this. :D http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v56/UnknownTarget/screen0115.jpg Everything is funny with the Benny Hill theme song
Junkie Beverage GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.05.11 23:27:00 - [533] is that the bsg freespace 2 mod
Apolluon Gallente Aetas Inculta	Posted - 2008.05.11 23:27:00 - [534] Originally by: xHomicide Edited by: xHomicide on 11/05/2008 14:15:48 Change the DD to a weapon that instantly disables the warp drives of all ships on grid for 10 minutes. The resulting battles would be ***** epic instead of ***** lame. Yeah, so instead of having a Titan with a DD that it can use in self defense to blow up tacklers... It can tackle itself. Another great idea from the think tank. No wonder you guys lost your Titan. Apolluon
xHomicide Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2008.05.12 05:46:00 - [535] Edited by: xHomicide on 12/05/2008 05:47:33 Originally by: Apolluon Originally by: xHomicide Edited by: xHomicide on 11/05/2008 14:15:48 Change the DD to a weapon that instantly disables the warp drives of all ships on grid for 10 minutes. The resulting battles would be ***** epic instead of ***** lame. Yeah, so instead of having a Titan with a DD that it can use in self defense to blow up tacklers... It can tackle itself. Another great idea from the think tank. No wonder you guys lost your Titan. Apolluon Because when a titan fires its doomsday, it hits itself, right? One would assume such an implementation wouldn't affect any super capitals anyways. --- Razor CEI
DigitalCommunist Obsidian Core	Posted - 2008.05.12 07:42:00 - [536] Why is this ship balance thread on CAOD? And more importantly, why have I ignored it for so long? Oh yeah! For a brief moment there I forgot every two-bit peon, his alt, his mom, his mom's alt and their entire alty lineage has a piece to say about Titans, in a nauseatingly repetitive manner that puts most sitcom writers to shame and by shame I mean awed admiration. Despite never flying, owning, touching lovingly, wooing with chocolatey delights or nervously stalking with a 5mp camera in the aftermath of anything remotely resembling an intimate Titan encounter, we have a fleet of experts who can, at best, discern the ship from their shroom shaped schlong which *by the way* is a supremely incredible non-event given that one could only confuse the two if placed side by side, with the 40km ship attached to the loins a disturbingly obese version of Galacticus standing about 50 light years in the background squeezing out some gjallargunk to Emma Watson upskirts. Despite the obvious innuendo that most Marvel villains are wannabe pedos who will superimpose inappropriate levels of raunch atop socially acceptable, and completely legal brb sleep _______________________________ http://epicwords.net/
Spyra Gryra Cruoris Seraphim	Posted - 2008.05.12 08:19:00 - [537] Originally by: DigitalCommunist Why is this ship balance thread on CAOD? And more importantly, why have I ignored it for so long? Oh yeah! For a brief moment there I forgot every two-bit peon, his alt, his mom, his mom's alt and their entire alty lineage has a piece to say about Titans, in a nauseatingly repetitive manner that puts most sitcom writers to shame and by shame I mean awed admiration. Despite never flying, owning, touching lovingly, wooing with chocolatey delights or nervously stalking with a 5mp camera in the aftermath of anything remotely resembling an intimate Titan encounter, we have a fleet of experts who can, at best, discern the ship from their shroom shaped schlong which *by the way* is a supremely incredible non-event given that one could only confuse the two if placed side by side, with the 40km ship attached to the loins a disturbingly obese version of Galacticus standing about 50 light years in the background squeezing out some gjallargunk to Emma Watson upskirts. Despite the obvious innuendo that most Marvel villains are wannabe pedos who will superimpose inappropriate levels of raunch atop socially acceptable, and completely legal brb sleep Wut?
Kyrie Elaison GoonFleet	Posted - 2008.05.12 08:43:00 - [538] Wow, what a terrible thread. I have an idea to make all future threads like this one much better. Simply make it so that every bob post says "OMNIPOTENCE ITSELF NUBS" in order to tl;dr the matter and streamline the forums. While this would hurt the exceptionally rare bob poster who can make a valid point, it would save the rest of us from the other 2 or 3000 morons in bob who type like 12 year old girls on aol in the 90s.
Viral Shadow Amarr Destructive Influence	Posted - 2008.05.12 10:41:00 - [539] just wanted to pop in and say i agree with the fact titans need to be changed but its pretty difficult to come to a decent solution.
Liam Fremen Insurgent New Eden Tribe Deus Ex.	Posted - 2008.05.12 11:10:00 - [540] 1) Cyno jammer become "anchored" when a DDD is fired inside a system, whoever made it (focused ddd of the point 2 is not counted) 2) Script for Doomsday device, -> focused damage, the DPS of this gun over 1 target and so the ROF and damage must be based on logical "counts" like for exemple 2x a dread in siege dps applied over this module and it fire ******* big ray of death to a single target and maybe dmg based on sig radius and speed like if it was a MISSILE without fly time, sort of shooting 6x citadels with 0 fly time but maybe a bit more able to hit "moving" targets. PS: using the focused script, reset the 1 hour timer for normal doomsday, so you can't focus shoot, shoot shoot, and then DDD, from last "focused" shoot you must wait 1 hour for the ddd, and AFTER you make DDD you must wait 1 hour for using the focused mode. Doing the "actual" ddd should be something like "overloading" the device resulting in a crazy big explosion. _________________________________________________

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