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Iroku Mata
Minmatar Endovelicus Heavy Industries
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Posted - 2008.05.08 11:27:00 -
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Edited by: Iroku Mata on 08/05/2008 11:27:45
Originally by: KIAEddZ Its no secret KIA own a Titan, and we will be getting another couple in the coming months.
hmmmm....
Originally by: KIAEddZ I am a firm believer that the the DD part of their capabilities must be removed from the game asap.
ROTFL... you lie!
Why to the hell should you get another couple of them when they (in your oppinion) should be nerved? Only for logistics? LOL
Go tell that you mom Eddz, you sucks as a lier.
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NOL Waiter
Dining in NOL Enterprises.
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Posted - 2008.05.08 11:27:00 -
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Originally by: TWD Voting to nerf titans!
Remove DD, add a ship that feeds from the power of 10 titans so it can fire a remote super DD to a cyno!
Only alliances with 10 or more titans can make us of it, so it remains rare/fair (for a while).
I see what you did there.
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HellsRazor
Caldari Priory Of The Lemon R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2008.05.08 11:28:00 -
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Originally by: geno effort Nanotitans are the least of the worries if all major alliances start stacking 10+ titans on a grid. No tackler can withstand an arbitrary number of concurrent doomsdays.
The solution is to nerf doomsday stacking. One doomsday per grid per hour. Let the titan pilots and their support fleets themselves do some tactics and actual fighting for a change.
I agree this will be a problem. first correct nano titan. THEN penalty for concuring Titan blast would seen right. Like if a second titan DD warning pops up saying if you procede you cannot cloak or warp/jump for 10min.(and after 10min. additional 15min aggro probe time added.
that would make things fun
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Billy Merc
Amarr Pilots Of Honour Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2008.05.08 11:28:00 -
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Edited by: Billy Merc on 08/05/2008 11:28:11 i lol'd @ "Having seen just how easy they are to train for, build or purchase"
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Kaar
Art of War Cruel Intentions
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Posted - 2008.05.08 11:31:00 -
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Originally by: geno effort One doomsday per grid per hour
Yeah cos thats not exploitable
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Zumina Apoca
Amarr Apoca Balder Trading
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Posted - 2008.05.08 11:32:00 -
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More gunlaws makes baby jesus cry.
Big brother has spoken, now go away or he will taunt you a second time
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CWevers
Dragons Of Redemption Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.05.08 11:33:00 -
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What an immensly exaggerated whine post. Quit trying to change the gamerules by pressuring CCP all the time but adapt to them like you should in any game.
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HellsRazor
Caldari Priory Of The Lemon R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2008.05.08 11:33:00 -
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Originally by: Kaar
Originally by: geno effort One doomsday per grid per hour
Yeah cos thats not exploitable
LOL forreal you have to think penalty.
with that thought id get my alliance to DD the grid of hostile POS then kill it before hour is done lol according to your 1 DD per grid an hour :)
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Crax McGee
Contraband Inc.
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Posted - 2008.05.08 11:35:00 -
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Eddz is totally right, you whine at eddz 'whining' now but i bet you you will all be whinning in a few months to come if things arnt changed. The game is breaking slowly, everyone who's played the game for a couple years or more can c that.
PVP is all about the epic fights, however even now epic fights are far more rare than they once were. NO sane alliance would have the balls to jump into a Cyno Jammed system with a whole BUNCH of carriers/titans and other caps on the gate. The lag would just be too much with all those drones on the gate.
If you think the lag is bad now, wait till mutiple doomsdays are going off, your fleet will not load.
Keep your fights small if you dont want to whine in the months to come. As for what ever his GM name is who wants carriers/moms nerfed you can flame me away all you want - but its clear to see that CCP made a mistake and hes just trying to fix it.
yeah my posts are awful but im dyslexic and stuff and really dont care what you flame back
*KISSES*
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Vasili Z
Beasts of Burden R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2008.05.08 11:37:00 -
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titans are lame and ruining the game... *gets a titan* -------
Everything I say represents my corporation and their views. Basically CEO I guess I think |
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thebold
MASS
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Posted - 2008.05.08 11:37:00 -
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Edited by: thebold on 08/05/2008 11:37:49 Remove POS warfayre from conquerable regions and Titans are balanced. Cyno jammed + 4 titans.. essentially you need a alliance of 5 people, 4 in Titans 1 in a cyno recon.
Quiet frankly I hope whoever invented* POS sovereignty and there Cyno jam modules has been fired from CCP for all our sakes other wise the future of 0.0 warfare will just simply not entertain vets enough to care to fight, and the new breed brought up on a totally different style... as has been seen with Goonswarm.
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Rodj Blake
Amarr PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
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Posted - 2008.05.08 11:37:00 -
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Ideally they would have gone with Plan A when the introduced titans and made them mobile stations.
For years we had CCP telling us that titans wouldn't be combat ships, and then they go and give them the biggest weapons in the game.
Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori.
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HellsRazor
Caldari Priory Of The Lemon R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2008.05.08 11:37:00 -
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Originally by: CWevers What an immensly exaggerated whine post. Quit trying to change the gamerules by pressuring CCP all the time but adapt to them like you should in any game.
are you serious?
OK erase all the WHINE about torp splash.. and cruise caracals...dual MWD...THATS ALL WHINE! GIVE me when EW was PERMA if it was over the ships EW strenght. THAT was whine not ballance :)
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Pattonator
Shinra Shinra Alliance
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Posted - 2008.05.08 11:38:00 -
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The only people who ask for nerfs in Eve are the friggin carebears. Why don't you just ask for a strip mining bonus to be added to your titan?
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Vorce
Di-Tron Heavy Industries Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2008.05.08 11:40:00 -
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I've never been a big fan of the DD. But I think CCP are too much in love with their titans to have the DD removed. If they don't remove it maybe we can get a ship with some mod to shield fleets against DDs? I don't know, but I wouldnt be sad if they removed the DD. And as Edd says, having a titan (or even a couple) isnt that big a deal anymore. ---------- First! |
geno effort
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.05.08 11:40:00 -
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Originally by: HellsRazor with that thought id get my alliance to DD the grid of hostile POS then kill it before hour is done lol according to your 1 DD per grid an hour :)
Exactly. To "exploit" this in, say, a POS siege scenario you'd need to bring and expose your own titan into the (presumaby cynojammed) system, and expose it to a hostile POS. That looks less like an exploit and more like a fun tactical opportunity if you ask me.
Meanwhile, the titan-wielding alliance would be inclined nuke the hostile fleet at the gate, at the gate in the system next door and other unexpected places. All of which add opportunities for fun combat.
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Sacul
Wreckless Abandon Un-Natural Selection
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Posted - 2008.05.08 11:40:00 -
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Originally by: Anna Valerios Avatar warp time with max skills is 45 seconds, if you cant get a tackle on that then your pretty **** ¼_¼
wut wot? shii thats fast, must cost a bunch
The stone age didn't end because we ran out of stones!
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7sunami
Evolution Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.05.08 11:42:00 -
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So you want Titans nerfed to a commandship that sit inside a POS shield 100% of the time? :p
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HellsRazor
Caldari Priory Of The Lemon R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2008.05.08 11:44:00 -
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Edited by: HellsRazor on 08/05/2008 11:45:19
Originally by: geno effort
Originally by: HellsRazor with that thought id get my alliance to DD the grid of hostile POS then kill it before hour is done lol according to your 1 DD per grid an hour :)
Exactly. To "exploit" this in, say, a POS siege scenario you'd need to bring and expose your own titan into the (presumaby cynojammed) system, and expose it to a hostile POS. That looks less like an exploit and more like a fun tactical opportunity if you ask me.
Meanwhile, the titan-wielding alliance would be inclined nuke the hostile fleet at the gate, at the gate in the system next door and other unexpected places. All of which add opportunities for fun combat.
im drunk but can read this wrong. when FIGHTING of a system not cyno jamed you just need to DD the POS you wanna kill and garrentee 1 hour free killing :) with out worring about hostile TITAN right?
your assuming a cynojammed system not a frontline system like us REAL alliances are fighting :)
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geno effort
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.05.08 11:44:00 -
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Originally by: 7sunami So you want Titans nerfed to a commandship that sit inside a POS shield 100% of the time? :p
pre-remote-DD-nerf irony overload
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NokNok
D00M. Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.05.08 11:45:00 -
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Couple of months from now taking a system will be like:
- Alarm clock op to take a jammer and jumpbridges down without much fuzz, and then hop into caps again. - Jump in 2 titans for each gate, rotate camp shifts - Dreads siege the towers, carriers camp non titan gates with fighter swarms or go play GTAIV.
And it will all come down who's willing to wake up/stay awake for alarm clock ops. Seems to me it's a bit like Everquest was with camping contested mobs ;)
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Gregoriuses
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.05.08 11:46:00 -
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Titans should be rare in EVE. 1 titan per alliance i say it should be and number of alliances should be limited
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geno effort
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.05.08 11:50:00 -
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Originally by: HellsRazor
im drunk but can read this wrong. when FIGHTING of a system not cyno jamed you just need to DD the POS you wanna kill and garrentee 1 hour free killing :) with out worring about hostile TITAN right?
your assuming a cynojammed system not a frontline system like us REAL alliances are fighting :)
Non-cynojammed systems are normally sieged (and defended) with dreads and carriers, anyway.
But I see what you mean. With POS mechanics in mind, perhaps a full hour of immunity would be too much.
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thebold
MASS
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Posted - 2008.05.08 11:50:00 -
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Originally by: Gregoriuses Titans should be rare in EVE. 1 titan per alliance i say it should be and number of alliances should be limited
Nice idea however totally unfeasible at the current state of the game. Else you'd just have allot of people in alt corps in titans.
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HellsRazor
Caldari Priory Of The Lemon R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2008.05.08 11:50:00 -
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Originally by: Gregoriuses Titans should be rare in EVE. 1 titan per alliance i say it should be and number of alliances should be limited
its to late now... all they can do is penalty. and they should ATLEAST a TITAN that DD cannot warp or cloak/jump in 10 min. after DD to balance it has to be a HIC locking it down. that will make it RARE
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Lord WarATron
Amarr Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.05.08 11:51:00 -
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Edited by: Lord WarATron on 08/05/2008 11:53:43
Originally by: Gregoriuses Titans should be rare in EVE. 1 titan per alliance i say it should be and number of alliances should be limited
Then what will happen is 1 man alliances with titans. Just transfering the issue insted of solving it. But even to transfer the issue, you have to define it, which has not been done.
Basically, the guy got a titan and now that tortuga no longer exists, he is left with a expensive paperweight that requires a support fleet. All he can use it for is logistic stuff, so thats why he is whining in this forum and not Game Development forums. This thread is political to try and win support rather than discuss real game balance.
If people are so worried about titan, they could form up some kind of coalition to stop people from building them. Yeah that could work I hear..... --
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Centuri
Minmatar Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.05.08 11:52:00 -
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Edited by: Centuri on 08/05/2008 11:52:29 This is the wrong forums for ship balancing ideas and there's already a whopper of a thread in the proper forums ----> http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=738223
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HellsRazor
Caldari Priory Of The Lemon R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2008.05.08 11:54:00 -
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simply, when you use a TITAN hostiles should have more then a minute to get you especially with LAG.
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Piratejoe
54th Knights Templar THORN Alliance
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Posted - 2008.05.08 11:55:00 -
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Edited by: Piratejoe on 08/05/2008 11:56:58 Really dont care one way or the other about Titans and their DD weapon, but one possible solution (If thier even is a problem) is after a Titans sets off his DD any other DD that is fired off has a possible backlash back onto the Titan. (Say something like the local space has a over abundance of Trouble with Tribbles and if you add more they can backfire on you). The more DD that are set off in a system in X time the higher the chance of a backlash on the Titan and more severe damage.
Meh just a thought at work bored and sleepy.
Thx Joe
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Fitz Chivalry
eXceed Inc. eXceed.
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Posted - 2008.05.08 11:56:00 -
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Originally by: Koala Bare Nothing wrong with titans, plenty people fly dreads, dreads melt titans.
Anyone would think you had just got a titan on your main o/ mate.
I hate titans and in particular I hate the DD element of the titan, they make engagements so much less fun than they used to be and the sick feeling of having an entire fleet wiped out by a single click is not something people who are playing a game want to experience, especially given that in most fleet battles the lag is so intense that there is no chance to get out (the one ship I personally lost to a DD was a ceptor and I was spamming warp as soon as the cyno went up and I was still unable to get out in time).
As I have said many times before TItans should be lie mobile stations or uber dreads, they should not have the ability to wipe out an entire fleet with a single click, especially given that they are now so common that people use them in ridiculous circumstances like RA using one to destroy a 10 man frigate gang we were roaming with and MC using one on a mid-sized nano gang of ours. This is hardly using titans as intended, i.e. as a counter to huge battleship fleets.
When you have several of them in a single system, tackling them then becomes near impossible and when you couple this with cynojammers it becomes even more of a joke as its impossible to get your dread fleet in there.
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