Originally by: Rochel Hakiri

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Edited by: Rochel Hakiri on 08/05/2008 15:25:39
CCP made the misstake of releasing BPO's instead of BPC's.

^They should convert all Titan BPO's to a 1 run BPC, so then it really start to hurt if you lose a Titan.

But I guess it's already too late

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Originally by: Nick Curso

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Originally by: ardik

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Originally by: Nick Curso

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Scavok the roam originally had 30 ppl in crusers and below who kept the MS tackled, the rest of the fleet hot tailed it from PR to fountain something like 20 jumps to kill it once we were called for.

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Ugh, so you just pushed as many ppl into one system as you could, with little effort!!!!

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yep a whole 120 ppl into a hostile cyno jammed system and killed a super cap with a support fleet.

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Originally by: ardik

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Originally by: Nick Curso

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Originally by: ardik

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Originally by: Nick Curso

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Scavok the roam originally had 30 ppl in crusers and below who kept the MS tackled, the rest of the fleet hot tailed it from PR to fountain something like 20 jumps to kill it once we were called for.

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Ugh, so you just pushed as many ppl into one system as you could, with little effort!!!!

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yep a whole 120 ppl into a hostile cyno jammed system and killed a super cap with a support fleet.

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Ok, I see I'll have to be blunt here: this totally awesome roam you had here which was totally fun and everyone should try out, happened to be against the one single alliance in the game without a titan. If BRUCE actually had a titan they'd warp it in after like 5 mins, DD your gang from 200km out, warp out 10 seconds later while laughing at the silly, lil' bobbits in pods.

This is exactly the thing BoB has done against as little as SOLO people roaming around their space.

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Originally by: Yaay

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Originally by: Scavok

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most recent words

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anyone who argues that numbers currently do, or ever have dictated the outcome of fights are clueless.

Does that mean they aren't a factor, no. But numbers do not win fights.


and don't be a tard who comments on 50 v 200, be realistic.

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Originally by: Scavok

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There's much less actual fun, large scale combat taking place because of titans. That doesn't seem good to me.

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Originally by: Nick Curso

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Originally by: ardik

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Originally by: Nick Curso

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Originally by: ardik

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Originally by: Nick Curso

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Scavok the roam originally had 30 ppl in crusers and below who kept the MS tackled, the rest of the fleet hot tailed it from PR to fountain something like 20 jumps to kill it once we were called for.

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Ugh, so you just pushed as many ppl into one system as you could, with little effort!!!!

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yep a whole 120 ppl into a hostile cyno jammed system and killed a super cap with a support fleet.

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Ok, I see I'll have to be blunt here: this totally awesome roam you had here which was totally fun and everyone should try out, happened to be against the one single alliance in the game without a titan. If BRUCE actually had a titan they'd warp it in after like 5 mins, DD your gang from 200km out, warp out 10 seconds later while laughing at the silly, lil' bobbits in pods.

This is exactly the thing BoB has done against as little as SOLO people roaming around their space.

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So whats stopping them?

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Originally by: Dianabolic

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Originally by: Scavok

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There's much less actual fun, large scale combat taking place because of titans. That doesn't seem good to me.

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And we disagree, perhaps you should just have less blues?

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Originally by: ardik

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Originally by: Dianabolic

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Originally by: Scavok

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There's much less actual fun, large scale combat taking place because of titans. That doesn't seem good to me.

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And we disagree, perhaps you should just have less blues?

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hey were are those killboard links you promised? you can mail them to me in game if you will ;-*

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Originally by: ardik

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If BRUCE actually had a titan they'd warp it in after like 5 mins, DD your gang from 200km out, warp out 10 seconds later while laughing at the silly, lil' bobbits in pods.

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Originally by: Dianabolic

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Originally by: ardik

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Originally by: Dianabolic

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Originally by: Scavok

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There's much less actual fun, large scale combat taking place because of titans. That doesn't seem good to me.

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And we disagree, perhaps you should just have less blues?

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hey were are those killboard links you promised? you can mail them to me in game if you will ;-*

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I didn't promise you any links, ardik, you asked for them and I ignored you.

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Originally by: Dianabolic

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Originally by: Scavok

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There's much less actual fun, large scale combat taking place because of titans. That doesn't seem good to me.

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And we disagree, perhaps you should just have less blues?

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Originally by: thoth foc

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Originally by: ardik

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If BRUCE actually had a titan they'd warp it in after like 5 mins, DD your gang from 200km out, warp out 10 seconds later while laughing at the silly, lil' bobbits in pods.

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Like goonies did... and MC did... and all the other hostile (to bob) titans do against us?

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Originally by: Dianabolic

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Originally by: Scavok

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There's much less actual fun, large scale combat taking place because of titans. That doesn't seem good to me.

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And we disagree, perhaps you should just have less blues?

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Originally by: Yaay

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Originally by: Dianabolic

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Originally by: Scavok

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There's much less actual fun, large scale combat taking place because of titans. That doesn't seem good to me.

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And we disagree, perhaps you should just have less blues?

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QFT.... people just don't understand, naps were the number 1 reason titan numbers got out of hand in the first place.

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Originally by: Aeon Yakati

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I vote for removal of all Titans except the first 10 ones that were built. As a titan gets killed, one more can be built.

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Originally by: Shadoo

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If you recall, QY6 was taken because a simultanious assault took place in several systems at the same time.

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There are still places you can roam to with 80 people and have a good fun fight. <3 BRUCE.

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Originally by: Yaay

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Originally by: Dianabolic

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Originally by: Scavok

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There's much less actual fun, large scale combat taking place because of titans. That doesn't seem good to me.

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And we disagree, perhaps you should just have less blues?

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QFT.... people just don't understand, naps were the number 1 reason titan numbers got out of hand in the first place.

Imagine how many Titans or even MoMs the north would have if they didn't go a year and a half w/o any significant war on their doorsteps. Remember, MC stopped well short of MM space.

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Originally by: Scavok

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Originally by: Yaay

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Originally by: Dianabolic

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Originally by: Scavok

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There's much less actual fun, large scale combat taking place because of titans. That doesn't seem good to me.

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And we disagree, perhaps you should just have less blues?

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QFT.... people just don't understand, naps were the number 1 reason titan numbers got out of hand in the first place.

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Not really, everyone still had their enemies. Sov 4 was the reason numbers took off. BoB had no trouble popping out titans even at times that we had free reign over their primetime. I can't imagine Tri, MM, RZR, blah blah, not threatening each other's cap yards if they were vulnerable.

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Originally by: Scavok

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Originally by: Dianabolic

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Originally by: Scavok

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There's much less actual fun, large scale combat taking place because of titans. That doesn't seem good to me.

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And we disagree, perhaps you should just have less blues?

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And coming from the alliance with the most titans, I'm not surprised in the least.

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Originally by: KIAEddZ

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There has been a lot of discussion about this, in general chat etc. But I'd like to bring a sister discussion here, from the point of the Corporations and Alliances that inhabit 0.0 space.

Its no secret KIA own a Titan, and we will be getting another couple in the coming months. They are becoming more and more common and a decent sell market, with 1 available most of the time, has sprung up.

Having seen just how easy they are to train for, build or purchase and use, I am a firm believer that the the DD part of their capabilities must be removed from the game asap. We are well over 50 Titans now, and that number is accelerating, as people become more adept at building them, the process lines for those with secure space are becoming more efficient, and thus more are arriving, it almost seems weekly now..

And despite that, they aren't dieing. They are too easy to use, too easy to protect (don't get me started on the POS Bubble DD'ing)... it is simple to make a Titan align and warp in sub 15 seconds, and still give it a 10+k DPS tank, even with the basic of officer mods, a full setup which would admittedly cost a lot, could have you warping in 10 seconds and tanking 15k+ dps...

Killing a Titan isnt easy enough for the damage they can do, and as the game begins to fill faster and faster with them, I for one am very worried on how this will play out. I remmeber when people argued that something costing 50 billion to build, shouldnt be easy to kill.... well 50 Billion is chump change to the big guys.

Would the likes of BoB and Ra/AAA/Goons etc like to see some of their roles removed from the game, or do they see their advantage, which grows every day, over other players too much to give up?

Lets be honest, the day of 20 Titans on a battlefield is not far away.. thats 1.5ish million raw damage

How long before popping a carrier fleet will be effected by a mass Titan DD?

It feels like a race, first team to 30 or so Titans wins Eve...

When someone is getting close, can I join your team

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Originally by: Yaay

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Edited by: Yaay on 08/05/2008 17:04:48

Originally by: Scavok

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Originally by: Yaay

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Originally by: Dianabolic

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Originally by: Scavok

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are you even aware of the state of the north since bob left?

Right now, 2 main powers are going up against 8-9 to try and end the joke that is those monkeys. Its total nap land and they are struggling at best to move on us, just like they nearly collapsed when TCF invaded about 1.5 years ago. It's the south 2.0 but w/o an equal of BoB doing the work up here to hold space. I think more than anything, what does that say about the power of numbers, and the will of nappers.

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i was under impression that 2 main powers have some more by their side, and i find it lame to label your alliance and allies as monkeys.

before others start flamewar this was a joke! but definately MM is 1 of main powers, second one choose yourself :)

Originally by: HellsRazor

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Originally by: Gregoriuses

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Titans should be rare in EVE. 1 titan per alliance i say it should be and number of alliances should be limited

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its to late now... all they can do is penalty. and they should ATLEAST a TITAN that DD cannot warp or cloak/jump in 10 min. after DD to balance it has to be a HIC locking it down. that will make it RARE

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Originally by: Narciss Sevar

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Originally by: Yaay

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stuff

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So with tri recently losing a few corps, don't you think it's about time they had a pep talk?

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Originally by: KIAEddZ

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So sad to see some of the flames, in what was solely intended to be a frank discussion about Titans from those Alliances that frequent these boards, ie the ones that have them.

Titans need changing imho, the DD needs changing, but you have to feel if the people that are running the political and military show, who pretty much all reside in here, can't think of a way of doing it then CCP can't be expected to do it easily.

I didn't start this thread for anything other than to see what the others who have Titans feel about them.

If you don't feel they need nerfing thats fair enough, but for anyone that thinks they do, would be great to discuss ideas on how.

Ps I read that other thread, but I didnt see many actual Titan owners, especially the big boys, in that discussion thread.

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