It's quite easy to see when the prices started rising, just look what got implemented at that patch and changed the EvE economy.

This is silly, people being more "rich" just means people are flying more expensive stuff and will be less risk adverse.

Stop making sense.

I just abandoned null in favor of hi sec incursions.
Hi sec players are new breed of overlords that wins game by whining, deal with it.

Have to re-iterate: THE MINERAL SITUATION IS MUCH,MUCH MORE WORRYING THEN INCURSIONS,level 4-5 bounties, bott bans & tech moon faucets BY A LONG SHOT replace drones pooping alloys with bounties IN 1 SWITFT BLOW(PATCH?) AND YOU'LL SEE HYPER INFLATION WHICH WILL make your HEADS SPIN IMHO

As a casual player that has recently started to play again, the new prices is slowly making me regret playing again. Who thought Incursions would have such a great impact...

Troof!

Myrmidons (to name just one item) are ca.ISK 48mn in Jita as of about 3 hours ago (just before I logged). They were ca. ISK 27-29mn just about 5-6 months ago.

CCP, you need to stop listening to the over-entitled whingebabies and just nerfbat Incursion-income, hard.

Just stupid.

- Poeple who fly incursions might buy stuff they need for incursions if they lose something.
- Incursions HATE drones.
- So WHY should they buy drone ships at all?

Sure, they might use them for other stuff. But then they would buy them even without incursions.

This said I might go with you, when this price increase would just be for ships and items this incursion runners use. Legion, Faction BS, Suprts and all the needed fitting.


There are other factors like highsec miner ganking:
- Miners lose ships much more frequently.
- To compensate this loses they don't sell their Ore that low anymore.
- With a rise in Ore price production cost went up.

Or:
- the eastern is in War atm (XXX v Sol v AAA (?) v RED v Goons)
- as they can't rat all day and loot the drone-region-ore this ore is missing on the market
- production cost rise

And there are more factors. To blame Incursions for all this is just stupid!

Just stupid.

- Poeple who fly incursions might buy stuff they need for incursions if they lose something.
- Incursions HATE drones.
- So WHY should they buy drone ships at all?

To blame Incursions for all this is just stupid!

As a casual player that has recently started to play again, the new prices is slowly making me regret playing again. Who thought Incursions would have such a great impact...

I find it interesting [or a lack of reading skill] to find how 'x' amount of ISK genereated through various means is distributed. I'd have thought there are far fewer incursion runners than there are genuine & botting lvl IV mission runners // ratters. So despite Incursions generating less ISK in a month than NPC bounties, that generated wealth going into far fewer hands[also varied corps & alliances] would have a more profound effect on inflation, especially concerning PLEX

Yes, but that doesn't mean that incursions aren't problematic, since they are doing that with relatively few players doing them GÇö the scaling effect of more people doing incursions are quite shocking.

Go look at the graph Liang posted. That' ain't monetary inflation that's price volatility due to fluctuations in supply and demand of goods. Those big spikes those are most likely speculative bubbles. The price increases that everyone is pointing to now are sudden and coincide with two huge null sec conflicts that affect two of most influential supply inputs in the economy

But what about CCPs 13 fold increase in the money supply

Until CCP gives us a value on the increase in raw materials entering the market all the rest is just groundless rationalizing.

To really have a measure on inflation we'd need to be able to compare money supply to the rate at which production inputs are injected into the economy. Show me the volume of minerals, moon goo, and PI entering/leaving the economy relative to the injection of isk and then we can have a real conversation about whether or not their is monetary inflation

Hard to believe they're speculative "bubbles" because they never came down. The market permanently readjusted upwards - which is what I was getting at.

Or we can just ask CCP if there's inflation... to which they say yes. And they do have those numbers.

-Liang

Hard to believe they're speculative "bubbles" because they never came down. The market permanently readjusted upwards - which is what I was getting at.

Or we can just ask CCP if there's inflation... to which they say yes. And they do have those numbers.

-Liang

Monetary inflation caused by an over supply of isk would have manifested in a steady rise in prices as more and more isk accumulated not in sudden extreme shifts that correspond with major in game events that causeed adverse effects on the supply of raw materials.

Hell we can't reach a universal understanding of what inflation is how the hell do you think perceptions are going to have a greater increase on prices than supply?

a lot of awesome stuff

I wonder what the correlation is between people who started playing the game (or started paying attention to price metrics) in the less inflationary periods (say mid 2007) vs those who started in a more inflationary period (late 2008-early 2009)? Looks like quite the swing from mid 2007 to now!

-Liang

I wonder what the correlation is between people who started playing the game (or started paying attention to price metrics) in the less inflationary periods (say mid 2007) vs those who started in a more inflationary period (late 2008-early 2009)? Looks like quite the swing from mid 2007 to now!

-Liang

I wonder what the correlation of NULL SEC trolls in the forums whining about Hi Sec ISK earning ( level 5 missions , Incursions, etc ) is versus the actual implementation of Nerfs to them.
Then on top of that the correlation of NULL Sec isk faucet nerfs to increases in PLEX prices.

Also, if you're going to call me a "raging nullsec troll" for stating what appears to be a pretty unequivocal fact... please also inform me why you believe that group based high sec content should be more lucrative than group based content in low sec, null sec, and WH space.

-Liang

Thanks for that graph. Doesn't look like anything to be too concerned about.