This isn't a point of view issue. You're just wrong.

True, which is why they have classically been a source of worryGǪ

GǪso when people are abandoning that infinite supply of ISK for something that's supposedly finite, that tells you something about what that finite activity can deliver, and why you should keep a very close eye on it.

We're looking at the economy constantly and looking at our options.

One of the fundamental issues we have is that we're making everyone "better" at making money, so the effect kind of snowballs. Right now we're considering everything form increasing taxes to lowering bounties across the board.

How much ISK was paid out over the same time period in insurance?
How does that amount compare with the other sources of income we are discussing?

Ship destruction should be an ISK sink, not an ISK faucet.

I realize the implications and issues that would have to be dealt with, but frankly Insurance either needs to go or be completely reworked.

This would bring balance to the force.

How much ISK was paid out over the same time period in insurance?
How does that amount compare with the other sources of income we are discussing?

Ship destruction should be an ISK sink, not an ISK faucet.

I realize the implications and issues that would have to be dealt with, but frankly Insurance either needs to go or be completely reworked.

This would bring balance to the force.

This does not alter the hard cap on the amount of ISK that can be generated from incursions. The same amount of ISK can be injected into the global economy if 1000 people run them or 1000000000000 people run them.

Assuming, that is, that there are not intangible benefits also created by incursion running.

Someone already posted the numbers, the majority of isk in EVE comes off bounties and if anything, we should be reviewing the current bounties on battleship NPCs.

Incursions are not a big issue in terms of isk globally.

We're looking at the economy constantly and looking at our options.

One of the fundamental issues we have is that we're making everyone "better" at making money, so the effect kind of snowballs. Right now we're considering everything form increasing taxes to lowering bounties across the board.

Someone already posted the numbers, the majority of isk in EVE comes off bounties and if anything, we should be reviewing the current bounties on battleship NPCs.

For those discussing the insurance faucet:

~3.4T payed out
~1.6T payed in

So insurance injected about 1.8T in Feb.

People crying left and right on the forums about so called Incursion inflation when in reality the amount from bounties is astronomically higher a good chunk of that due to nullsec botting.

So 80%ish of all the ISK income comes from rats?

But, wouldn't rat bounty income have remained roughly stable over the last few years? Why would that cause prices to explode?

Because people fail at arithmetics and dont understand that 16% increase isk generation(incursions) can actually mean multiplying by a huge factor isk that stays in the economy

if people are abandoning an infinite ISK source to get to it, it is a cause for worry since it tells us that we're nowhere near that yet and it's already a significant contributor to the ISK supply.

And there is one. Your sec status goes up quite nicely when you pop Sansha BS. So one could very well keep running Incursions even if the wallet is about to explode already.

Except that "some" people fail to realize in this very same topic CCP said Incursions arent the problem.



Should I quote CCP about Incursions again? They aren't the issue here.

Should I quote CCP about Incursions again? They aren't the issue here.

This is all theory, given that we do not know the distribution of incursion ISK across security. IF incursions are only being run in highsec....ever.... then there is significant room for more injection once people start running them in low/null.

Not necessarily.

You may have a situation where the minimum number of people needed to harvest 100% of the total possible ISK (perfect efficiency) gives a greater ISK/hr than missions/ratting/etc

So long as the ISK/hr is greater people will move to incursions. Meaning that the distribution of total possible ISK is spread across more players, and yet the total injection remains the same.

This is all theory, given that we do not know the distribution of incursion ISK across security. IF incursions are only being run in highsec....ever.... then there is significant room for more injection once people start running them in low/null. However, when an incursion pops up in your deep-blue 0.0 sov sys it would be silly not to farm it like crazy (little risk) so I can only assume that SOME of the feb numbers include 0.0 space.

We're looking at the economy constantly and looking at our options.

One of the fundamental issues we have is that we're making everyone "better" at making money, so the effect kind of snowballs. Right now we're considering everything form increasing taxes to lowering bounties across the board.

Incursions are not a big issue in terms of isk globally.

Someone already posted the numbers, the majority of isk in EVE comes off bounties and if anything, we should be reviewing the current bounties on battleship NPCs.

Sorry to quote it again but some here just don't get the point.

they have ALOT more data than you considering they WORK for the company.

Sorry to quote it again but some here just don't get the point. Incursions are not the issue. And yes they have ALOT more data than you considering they WORK for the company.

Sorry to quote it again but some here just don't get the point. Incursions are not the issue. And yes they have ALOT more data than you considering they WORK for the company.