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Tyson Gallane Caldari Political Warfare Executive	Posted - 2008.08.12 17:34:00 - [91] Originally by: Hertford 1 Plate Class General Systems Vehicle carrying approximately 90,000 slaved AI-cored Rapid and Heavy Offensive Units. This.
Kethry Avenger Krell-Korp	Posted - 2008.08.12 17:41:00 - [92] Just a thought the SDF-3 out of Robotech would fair pretty well. If we just take the stats straight from the rpg, its got about 90000 HP, and a disintegration beam that fires every 5 mins and can hit from 192,000 KM out, 1000's of fighters and many smaller weapons to take on close ships, enemy fighters and missiles. Oh and its jump drive has no set distance limit. So it can jump in on a cloaked fighter, on the side of the desthstar without the death ray and blow it up before that thing can turn around. Can hit a titan from off grid and doesn't need no silly cyno to give away its position. As to the original question I think the Mega would go down hard to almost any StarTrek ship. Except maybe the enterprise from the series enterprise. In Sci-Fi though I find most of eve's ship to be woefully lacking the kind of secondary weapons a lot of other scifi ships have. I expect battleship sized ships to have their main anti other ships as big as me, then lots of smaller guns. For example I would expect the Mega to have its 7 large blasters, then like a couple curise launchers, 14 med guns and 20 something small guns, and some fighters/drones. But I can see for balance reasons why it isn't so.
rValdez5987 Amarr 32nd Amarrian Imperial Navy Regiment.	Posted - 2008.08.12 17:54:00 - [93] Originally by: Banana Torres Originally by: Woodwraith and if you get a nuetron mega a warp in on the enterprise, point web, bang bang. picards gonna be seeing waaaay more that four lights, if ya gnomesayin. Worf: A ship has appeared on scanners. Troi: I detect evil intent New Ship: I gunnu pwnz0r joo Worf: The ship appears damaged it is closing on us at less than 1km/s Data: Analysis indicated that weapons have a low range, I recommend staying at distance Picard: Make it so Data: Engaging maneuvering thrusters Picard: Beverly, want to look at some lights with me? Worf: Captain the ship is firing at as. No significant damage, shields holding at 99% Picard: return fire, full spread of torpedos New ship: My armor will hold! /torpedo's and phasers destroy shields but leave armor unscathed new ship: HAHAHA AMARR SUK
Kethry Avenger Krell-Korp	Posted - 2008.08.12 18:01:00 - [94] Edited by: Kethry Avenger on 12/08/2008 18:02:00 Worf: Captain the ship is firing at as. No significant damage, shields holding at 99% Picard: return fire, full spread of torpedos New ship: My armor will hold! /torpedo's and phasers destroy shields but leave armor unscathed new ship: HAHAHA AMARR SUK Worf: Captain their armor is holding. Data: However their shields are down we can beam a torpedo right into the egg shaped command module. Picard: Proceed new ship: Hmm whys it feel like I'm huggning a big plastic tube. /torpedo explodes, pilot podded ship left mostly intact.
northwesten Amarr Trinity Corporate Services	Posted - 2008.08.12 18:04:00 - [95] Originally by: Kneebone Edited by: Kneebone on 12/08/2008 05:18:30 I've always placed Eve on the same par as Babylon 5 personally. The Mini's are spot on for the Narn. Narn battle cruisers look as close to a Machariel's as you can get. Their ships also look big and mean, but are a joke when it comes to firepower whistle The Amarr resemble the Minbari, except the Amarr are the salve owners. Both use beam weapons, both are highly religious, etc.. Galle's are the Centauri. High and mighty and full of theme selves. Fancy ship designs and what not. Blaster boats everywhere! And of course the Caldari are close to the Earth Federation, but probably the least favorable comparison of the 4, mainly the Caldari have a tech advantage that the Earth Fed doesn't. The Jovians have the air of the Vorlons about them. Technically superior and staying out of the affairs of the others unless required. We know they are around and could kick our ass, but they stay away. It is a damn shame that Andreas Katsulas died. He was the best actor in the series IMO. The chemistry between G'Kar and Lando (Peter Jurasik) is some of the best scifi material around. yer I so agree! I mean the speeches that G'Kar given just awesome. I love B5 than other si-fi and too bad no more going to be made :( Dont forget the doctor for B5 too I remember reading somewhere he clasped at home and dead :( Trinity Corporate Services
Pottsey Enheduanni Foundation	Posted - 2008.08.12 18:04:00 - [96] Edited by: Pottsey on 12/08/2008 18:05:55 "/torpedo's and phasers destroy shields but leave armor unscathed" Not likely, they would cut the ship in half. But even so the shields drop and then all of a sudden the Eve ships reactor and life support systems are drifting in space due to a tranporter beam. No shields is death. Photon torpedoes are the next step beyond normal anti matter torpedoes. I think that might blow an Eve ships amour down pretty fast. 2.7 x 1017 Joules of energy or equivalent to about a x64.44 megaton nuclear explosion all at once. That's a basic torpedo not the heavy hitting Photon torpedoes. If that fails the Federation ships just swap to Quantum torpedoes which get power from zero-point energy, bye, bye Eve Titan let alone a battleship. EDIT: More to the point Federation ships can stop you cloneing. Beam you out the pod then kill you. ____ Telltale sign of their presence is non-linear teleportation (www.eve-online.com/races/theodicy/Theodicy_All.pdf)
Forluhn Amarr Sane Industries Inc. Ursa Stellar Initiative	Posted - 2008.08.12 18:04:00 - [97] NASA's Discovery > All All your base are belong to Amarr
Locke DieDrake Human Information Virus	Posted - 2008.08.12 18:05:00 - [98] Originally by: Kethry Avenger Edited by: Kethry Avenger on 12/08/2008 18:02:00 Worf: Captain the ship is firing at as. No significant damage, shields holding at 99% Picard: return fire, full spread of torpedos New ship: My armor will hold! /torpedo's and phasers destroy shields but leave armor unscathed new ship: HAHAHA AMARR SUK Worf: Captain their armor is holding. Data: However their shields are down we can beam a torpedo right into the egg shaped command module. Picard: Proceed new ship: Hmm whys it feel like I'm huggning a big plastic tube. /torpedo explodes, pilot podded ship left mostly intact. New Ship Pilot: /wakes up a couple of light years away. Holly cow, that was some lag, last thing I saw my tank was holding.... ______________________________________________ Goon FC(08/12/06):"its a trap" "that thing is fully operational"
Pottsey Enheduanni Foundation	Posted - 2008.08.12 18:08:00 - [99] "New Ship Pilot: /wakes up a couple of light years away. Holly cow, that was some lag, last thing I saw my tank was holding...." It wouldnt take long for Federation ships to cotton on to beaming you outside the pod so you cannot clone. Caption to the psi crew members hey we killed him last fight, scan his mind and find out why. Sir he can clone from the pod, right beam him out the pod. ____ Telltale sign of their presence is non-linear teleportation (www.eve-online.com/races/theodicy/Theodicy_All.pdf)
Kethry Avenger Krell-Korp	Posted - 2008.08.12 18:10:00 - [100] Originally by: Locke DieDrake New Ship Pilot: /wakes up a couple of light years away. Holly cow, that was some lag, last thing I saw my tank was holding.... Your forget there was no pod breach your systems never copied and sent your consciousness to your new clone.

CCP Mindstar	Posted - 2008.08.12 18:10:00 - [101] Originally by: Pottsey "New Ship Pilot: /wakes up a couple of light years away. Holly cow, that was some lag, last thing I saw my tank was holding...." It wouldnt take long for Federation ships to cotton on to beaming you outside the pod so you cannot clone. Caption to the psi crew members hey we killed him last fight, scan his mind and find out why. Sir he can clone from the pod, right beam him out the pod. /heal "enterprise" 0 --

Tyson Gallane Caldari Political Warfare Executive	Posted - 2008.08.12 18:12:00 - [102] Originally by: CCP Mindstar Originally by: Pottsey "New Ship Pilot: /wakes up a couple of light years away. Holly cow, that was some lag, last thing I saw my tank was holding...." It wouldnt take long for Federation ships to cotton on to beaming you outside the pod so you cannot clone. Caption to the psi crew members hey we killed him last fight, scan his mind and find out why. Sir he can clone from the pod, right beam him out the pod. /heal "enterprise" 0 You cheater!
Wendat Huron Stellar Solutions	Posted - 2008.08.12 18:13:00 - [103] Originally by: Prof Patpending ...Borg Cube? Send it back to Sweden and ask for a proper ship... You failed at assembling yours? These forums are FUBAR, upgrade this decade!
Jastra Gallente Black Thorne Corporation	Posted - 2008.08.12 18:14:00 - [104] Originally by: Tyson Gallane Originally by: Hertford 1 Plate Class General Systems Vehicle carrying approximately 90,000 slaved AI-cored Rapid and Heavy Offensive Units. This. Yeah this
Kinnison Gallente	Posted - 2008.08.12 18:21:00 - [105] Ladies and gentlemen, I present two contenders, one from a game and one from a book. First contender; Tigress Class battleship from the old game Traveller. Hundreds of laser, missile and particle beam batteries, plus a main gun using about 250GW of power, whose energy is deposited inside the target. Plus 300 fighters, each with megaton-range nuclear missiles and a beam laser. Oh, and they consider tactical range to be about a light-second, roughly 300,000 km. Second contender; my namesake's personal superdreadnought, the Dauntless. Shields can stop laser beams in the hundreds of gigawatts, and also shrug off double-digit megaton nuclear explosions; also, it considers a couple of AU to be tactical range with its beam weapons (which, incidentally, are not lasers and are FTL). And just to put a cap on it - its tactical speed is around 90 parsecs per hour, which works out to approximately 500,000,000,000 km/sec. Did anyone say "tracking problems"?
Brilf	Posted - 2008.08.12 18:29:00 - [106] All this talk and no mention of the sun crusher?
Viqtoria Caldari Groping Hand Social Club	Posted - 2008.08.12 18:44:00 - [107] As a science fiction writer myself let me postulate thusly; A toroidal bum-donut made of primordial matter intersecting across 26 dimensions negating temporal reality as a river runs deep. but srsly srsly that over 9000 meme is a good example of science fictions number fetish, how powerful is something? OVER NINE THOUSAND! the cavalcade of spaceships, whatever esoterics from which they gain their uberness, sir, i give you 9001. meaningless. oh and btw trek ships may be tiny but technically speaking their ships are the ultimate nano, near lightspeed subwarp speed combined with supreme weapon accuracy and hilariously long range. On balance starwars never stood a chance. Please keep your signature on-topic.
Arkeladin	Posted - 2008.08.12 18:44:00 - [108] Sorry folk, this ship in squadrons would wtfpwn EVERYTHING in EvE, from frigates to Titans: WC3's Longbow bomber. This FIGHTER-CLASS vessel is heavily armed, wiht (in EvE terms) 4 large energy weapons (plus 1 in rear turret), 16 light guided missiles, and 4 CAPITAL TORPEDOES (500lb antimatter warhead) that IGNORE SHIELDS. Not to mention that in the WC universe, lasers are considered the weakest weapons :) Then, of course, there's the ships that CARRY these across long stretches of space - save that the carriers in WC are armed, and have working point defense. Ships such as the Midway on their own would be quite formidable in EvE terms - 25 energy weaons for close-in defense, and 250+ complement of fighers and bombers? EvE ships would have a tough time. AS far as sci-fi ships go, EvE ones are rather weak.
Tyson Gallane Caldari Political Warfare Executive	Posted - 2008.08.12 18:57:00 - [109] Ha! What about this, from Battletech 3057 Tech Manual: McKENNA (Battleship) Introduced : 2652 Mass : 1,930,000 tons Length : 1,405 metres Sail Diameter : 1,560 metres "An unprecedented number and variety of weapons give the design an arsenal that remains impressive even by modern standards. Forty eight Kreuss XX PPCs mounted in the vessel's side and stern provide the bulk of its firepower. Capable of engaging any targets larger than fighter craft within 400 kilometers, these powerful weapons could cripple or destroy most WarShips of the time with a single volley. However, the McKenna's massive arsenal also generates an unprecedented amount of heat, necessitating a multitude of coolant circuits. The McKenna's distinctive ventral and dorsal fins form part of this system and increase the area from which the vessel can radiate heat." It also carries 50 fighters and six DropShips. This baby can maintain a maximum 2.5G acceleration that allow it to lead assault forces against enemy in-system assets, normally within seven days of arrival in system. It is fitted with a Lithium-Fusion battery system and Kearny-Fuchida jumpdrive that allow it to make interstellar jumps as frequently as TWICE A WEEK if properly charged. Experience shows that it will normally miss with half its broadside against a maneuvering target at beyond its optimal range (just over 100km) due to the state of fire-control technology available to it at the time. Hehee! T.
Deidranna Sebiestor tribe	Posted - 2008.08.12 18:59:00 - [110] USS Defiant > all the single pwnmobile! :) -------------------------------------------------- GM Eldini > Hi, behaving are we? GM Eldini > This chat is so intelligent it hurts..
Qwert0	Posted - 2008.08.12 19:06:00 - [111] DDD pales in comparasin to the Halo array!
Tyson Gallane Caldari Political Warfare Executive	Posted - 2008.08.12 19:13:00 - [112] Originally by: Viqtoria As a science fiction writer myself let me postulate thusly; A toroidal bum-donut made of primordial matter intersecting across 26 dimensions negating temporal reality as a river runs deep. but srsly srsly that over 9000 meme is a good example of science fictions number fetish, how powerful is something? OVER NINE THOUSAND! the cavalcade of spaceships, whatever esoterics from which they gain their uberness, sir, i give you 9001. meaningless. oh and btw trek ships may be tiny but technically speaking their ships are the ultimate nano, near lightspeed subwarp speed combined with supreme weapon accuracy and hilariously long range. On balance starwars never stood a chance. Are you dissing Ian M Banks??! headbutt! I see what you're saying with all the "OMG this made up thing PWNZORZ more than this other made-up thing!" silliness, but this thread is all good fun. At least with IMB it was all part of the point. In Excession one of the main themes was that you might thing you are hard, but you never know when something is going to turn up and completely overwhelm you. The Culture call it OCP : "Outside Context Problem". Say two tribes of spear chucking savages are having a war, and up to the coast looms an Iowa Class Battleship... In Excession, the Culture are very advanced in terms of weaponry and processing power - to the point that one fleet battle (which takes up the better part of a chapter and a half in the book) occupies 15 milliseconds of realtime. Culture warships do instantaneous damage out to light-weeks range, while travelling at several thousand times the speed of light. Nevertheless, when something turns up that they don't understand they get shitscared. If you haven't read it, then read it. It is cool. T.
Bean Doodle Aliastra	Posted - 2008.08.12 19:20:00 - [113] Originally by: Eran Laude Originally by: Falkrich Swifthand The Lady Macbeth from The Night's Dawn trilogy of books would make a nice EVE ship. Not much to look at though (it's a sphere). It has a 15ly jump capability, 3 fusion reaction engines and one antimatter reaction engine (which is illegal to fuel in highsec ), 8 thinly disguised "communications" masers that can "punch a message clean through another ship", and "combat wasp" (drone) launch rails. All controlled by direct neural link through "neural nanonics" (nano-scale computer in the brain) which allows you to buy and use software in much the same way as skills in eve. The ship also has a freefall *** cage for the captain. Ahem. To continue the comparison with EVE, that ship is also frequently being repaired. It doesn't come out of every fight unscathed like a lot of scifi ships. The crew are freelancers, the pilot originally salvaged to get the money to fit and repair the lady macbeth, then ran trade and courier contracts and eventually got a navy commission. It's sounding scarily like eve actually. + eleventy billion for Peter F. Hamilton reference. This, this and forever this!!! oh, and ibtl btw... Woohootles
Tyson Gallane Caldari Political Warfare Executive	Posted - 2008.08.12 19:25:00 - [114] Originally by: Bean Doodle Originally by: Eran Laude Originally by: Falkrich Swifthand The Lady Macbeth from The Night's Dawn trilogy of books would make a nice EVE ship. Not much to look at though (it's a sphere). It has a 15ly jump capability, 3 fusion reaction engines and one antimatter reaction engine (which is illegal to fuel in highsec ), 8 thinly disguised "communications" masers that can "punch a message clean through another ship", and "combat wasp" (drone) launch rails. All controlled by direct neural link through "neural nanonics" (nano-scale computer in the brain) which allows you to buy and use software in much the same way as skills in eve. The ship also has a freefall *** cage for the captain. Ahem. To continue the comparison with EVE, that ship is also frequently being repaired. It doesn't come out of every fight unscathed like a lot of scifi ships. The crew are freelancers, the pilot originally salvaged to get the money to fit and repair the lady macbeth, then ran trade and courier contracts and eventually got a navy commission. It's sounding scarily like eve actually. + eleventy billion for Peter F. Hamilton reference. This, this and forever this!!! The Lady MacBeth is indeed cool. o/
Roemy Schneider BINFORD Solidus Alliance	Posted - 2008.08.12 19:40:00 - [115] Vaus will remove you layer by layer - putting the gist back into logistics
Tkar vonBiggendorf Gallente Snake Eyes Inc Friend or Enemy	Posted - 2008.08.12 19:40:00 - [116] The White Star. It's cruiser-sized, interceptor-quick, battleship tank & weapons, and has it's own cap ship jump drive. I promise nothingÖ. --CCP Prism X
Leviathan9 Gallente Royal Hiigaran Navy	Posted - 2008.08.12 19:49:00 - [117] Edited by: Leviathan9 on 12/08/2008 19:50:12 The Normandy could pwn any cruiser. (From Mass Effect btw) Though speaking of ME, Sovereign. That ship would pwn a fleet of bs's..... ----------------------------
Alkeena Gallente Unitas Nusquam Est FOUNDATI0N	Posted - 2008.08.12 19:53:00 - [118] Originally by: Pottsey "New Ship Pilot: /wakes up a couple of light years away. Holly cow, that was some lag, last thing I saw my tank was holding...." It wouldnt take long for Federation ships to cotton on to beaming you outside the pod so you cannot clone. Caption to the psi crew members hey we killed him last fight, scan his mind and find out why. Sir he can clone from the pod, right beam him out the pod. I can't believe I'm getting involved in this. However, do remember that the pods have their own shields in place. Also Im sure that with the quick manufacturing time in eve (hours to build a BS?) they could rapidly adapt designs to give other critical ship components their own internal shields to avoid this nonsense teleportation business.
Erim Solfara Amarr House of Solfara	Posted - 2008.08.12 20:05:00 - [119] Edited by: Erim Solfara on 12/08/2008 20:06:00 Originally by: Forluhn Deathstar > all, all =! fighter and I'd like to think on a sub-caps size, the Nostalgia for Infinity from the Alastair Reynolds 'Revelation Space' trilogy would do rather well, or any of the pre-melding plague lighthuggers would be awesome.
Carth Ixos COLD-Wing	Posted - 2008.08.12 20:13:00 - [120] It's also worthwhile bearing in mind Star Trek teleporters usually lock onto comlinks in order to beam someone out, and are disrupted by shields, magnetic fields, or even usual materials.

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