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Vera Denjuros
Terrortronfleet
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Posted - 2012.03.30 01:39:00 -
[3091] - Quote
Quote: Remember, if a no-name alt like me exhibited the same misconduct, I would've been immediately banned by CCP. You should be VASTLY CONTENT that Mittani the Great only got a slap on his wrist.
Anyone else notice what a bloody hippocritical ****-ant the op is? Seriously, my bullshit detector is all over the place.... |
Dyner
Midgard Protectorate
83
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Posted - 2012.03.30 01:42:00 -
[3092] - Quote
Astenion wrote:I didn't say anything about filing the report. He wouldn't have to. All the buzz about this and CCP's swift response to it has given it enough weight to make people THINK it's possible.
And YES, BLACKMAIL THE GOONS. This is Eve, remember? What game are you playing?
But to avoid the Real Life legal issue would require Real Life money.
Astenion wrote:and then after having them pay him all their isk in please-don't-let-them-arrest-us money
So, yes
a) blackmail/extort real money from a real person(s)
-or-
b) file a false law enforcement report
Answer to a) And all the Goons gotta do is make sure the dealing goes on inside of EVE....hello server-side chat logs. Answer to b) it's on file, plus see "Answer to a" for how to proof it was falsely filed.
...did I miss something? |
Astenion
Nephilim Coalition
145
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Posted - 2012.03.30 01:55:00 -
[3093] - Quote
Dyner wrote:Astenion wrote:I didn't say anything about filing the report. He wouldn't have to. All the buzz about this and CCP's swift response to it has given it enough weight to make people THINK it's possible.
And YES, BLACKMAIL THE GOONS. This is Eve, remember? What game are you playing? But to avoid the Real Life legal issue would require Real Life money. Astenion wrote:and then after having them pay him all their isk in please-don't-let-them-arrest-us money So, yes a) blackmail/extort real money from a real person(s) -or- b) file a false law enforcement report Answer to a) And all the Goons gotta do is make sure the dealing goes on inside of EVE....hello server-side chat logs. Answer to b) it's on file, plus see "Answer to a" for how to proof it was falsely filed. ...did I miss something?
Yes, you missed a lot. If you would actually *read* what you quoted me saying you will have your answer.
"After having them pay him all their *ISK* in please-don't-let-them-arrest-us money...."
Basically he comes up with a list of demands, something like this:
"First, The Mittani gets banned from Eve for life.
Secondly, all assets belonging to Goonswarm are transferred over to my account.
Third, any repeat of this action will result in the permaban of said offenders.
These are my terms. I will continue playing Eve and agree not to pursue legal action against neither CCP nor the affected Goons. By doing this, you will be demonstrating that you are taking a proactive stance against cyber-bullying and will have rectified the situation of my civil rights being violated."
It's a stretch, I know; but what with all the professional victims these days, it's VERY doable. People have been prosecuted for much less.
As for the chat logs, do you think he would be stupid enough to do this with some petty, in-game dealing BS? No, this is a big time ****-up. CCP will be involved. It will be CCP transferring assets, not the Goons. |
Dyner
Midgard Protectorate
83
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Posted - 2012.03.30 02:12:00 -
[3094] - Quote
Astenion wrote: Yes, you missed a lot. If you would actually *read* what you quoted me saying you will have your answer.
"After having them pay him all their *ISK* in please-don't-let-them-arrest-us money...."
Basically he comes up with a list of demands, something like this:
"First, The Mittani gets banned from Eve for life.
Secondly, all assets belonging to Goonswarm are transferred over to my account.
Third, any repeat of this action will result in the permaban of said offenders.
These are my terms. I will continue playing Eve and agree not to pursue legal action against neither CCP nor the affected Goons. By doing this, you will be demonstrating that you are taking a proactive stance against cyber-bullying and will have rectified the situation of my civil rights being violated."
It's a stretch, I know; but what with all the professional victims these days, it's VERY doable. People have been prosecuted for much less.
Hmm, so in context you're saying Said Person should have blackmailed Goons for in-game currency to avoid Real Life trouble?
Pretty sure that's against the EULA/ToS, still.
Also, I wouldn't have said "money", I would have used "ISK" after the "[...]-arrest-us" part that would have made it not seem like you jumped the track.
"b" would still stand assuming that with your thinking Goons called the bluff and Said Person filed a police report (falsely, going by your scenario).
Also, because I read that wrong. I'm admitting I was wrong and I'm stepping down from being Self-proclaimed Forum Superstar ^_^ (Snarkism not directed to Astenion) |
Astenion
Nephilim Coalition
145
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Posted - 2012.03.30 02:35:00 -
[3095] - Quote
Dyner wrote:Astenion wrote: Yes, you missed a lot. If you would actually *read* what you quoted me saying you will have your answer.
"After having them pay him all their *ISK* in please-don't-let-them-arrest-us money...."
Basically he comes up with a list of demands, something like this:
"First, The Mittani gets banned from Eve for life.
Secondly, all assets belonging to Goonswarm are transferred over to my account.
Third, any repeat of this action will result in the permaban of said offenders.
These are my terms. I will continue playing Eve and agree not to pursue legal action against neither CCP nor the affected Goons. By doing this, you will be demonstrating that you are taking a proactive stance against cyber-bullying and will have rectified the situation of my civil rights being violated."
It's a stretch, I know; but what with all the professional victims these days, it's VERY doable. People have been prosecuted for much less.
Hmm, so in context you're saying Said Person should have blackmailed Goons for in-game currency to avoid Real Life trouble? Pretty sure that's against the EULA/ToS, still. Also, I wouldn't have said "money", I would have used "ISK" after the "[...]-arrest-us" part that would have made it not seem like you jumped the track. "b" would still stand assuming that with your thinking Goons called the bluff and Said Person filed a police report (falsely, going by your scenario). Also, because I read that wrong. I'm admitting I was wrong and I'm stepping down from being Self-proclaimed Forum Superstar ^_^ (Snarkism not directed to Astenion)
Friend, I SAID ISK. Nevermind, you understand it anyway.
And yes, you can blackmail someone over just about anything as long as it didn't happen in the game. CCP can't be held responsible if you blackmail someone with pictures of his wife banging another guy. I understand that this didn't happen in-game, but it happened at Fanfest and as a result of Mittens' outburst, the guy actually got harassed. This happened on CCP's watch with devs looking on, goading them with more alcohol. Personally I think if you can't take the heat get out of the kitchen, but I'm talking from a legal standpoint. The guy could've said something to the effect of, "This caused me to have a nervous breakdown blah blah blah I downed a bottle of pills but unfortunately I woke up this morning blah blah blah", and then they would've been in a WORLD of ****. Luckily for them it didn't happen.
Mittens, from a position of relative power, implored hundreds, possibly thousands of people to harass a person with depression to the point of them committing suicide. This is the very essence of cyber-bullying. If the guy wanted to really ruin their day, he could do it, both in RL and in-game. It would've been up to him. Had he been content with iskies and loot and spaceships that go pew, that would have been his perogative...and something that CCP probably would've jumped at the chance to do. However, there is a very real possibility that this could have legal ramifications.
The thing is, NO ONE WOULD EVER KNOW IF HE WERE BLACKMAILING THEM OR NOT. That's the beauty of it! It's the ultimate con! They'd be too scared to challenge it. If CCP can fire the CSM chairman AND ban him for 30 days (which is a bit light, imo), don't you think they could confiscate all his assets and give them to the guy if he asked? All he'd have to do is sign a legal waiver saying the matter would be closed afterwards and would not pursue legal counsel.
Duuuuuuuude. It would've been amazing. |
Astenion
Nephilim Coalition
145
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Posted - 2012.03.30 02:48:00 -
[3096] - Quote
Hahahaha I just noticed this:
"I want to reassure you that CCP in no way condones the harassment of players, especially those who suffer from depression or suicidal thoughts, as we understand the possible consequences of such abhorrent behaviour," CCP public relations and social media specialist Ned Coker said.
It almost sounds like he's calling depression and suicidal thoughts "such abhorrent behavior". |
Astenion
Nephilim Coalition
145
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Posted - 2012.03.30 03:10:00 -
[3097] - Quote
Aaaaaand it appears Mittens already sent all his isk to the "victim".
BOO-YA!
Tbh, he seemed quite genuine and sincere. I would have accepted his apology, as long as it came with lots of isk.
However, I can already see the gaming press creating a mountain out of a molehill. |
Kerensky White
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
51
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Posted - 2012.03.30 05:54:00 -
[3098] - Quote
Just want to point out to Heimtar Auctioneer that Mittens is still our CEO. He will be our CEO after his ban has expired. We revel in his brilliant leadership and we look forward to making space burn.
No tears. Just goons. |
Lapine Davion
Outer Ring Applied Logistics
101
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Posted - 2012.03.30 05:57:00 -
[3099] - Quote
Prepare for oblivion! And $10,000 pants. |
Lapine Davion
Outer Ring Applied Logistics
101
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Posted - 2012.03.30 06:00:00 -
[3100] - Quote
Astenion wrote:WTF did you expect, people? You elected the Goon boss to be the boss of the CSM. That's like Americans being pissed off that the country went to **** when they voted for a Republican. Why are you shocked? If you want to have any sort of decency or integrity at the helm of the CSM, then don't vote for someone who is the self-proclaimed polar opposite.
Please explain in simple terms what CSM6 did wrong? |
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RougeOperator
Autocannons Anonymous Late Night Alliance
627
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Posted - 2012.03.30 06:37:00 -
[3101] - Quote
http://www.latimes.com/news/nation/nationnow/la-na-nn-trayvon-martin-lee-settlement-20120329,0,7063902.story
But how was spike lee supposed to know people would take his twitter seriously. It was on just a twitter post. Why would people have to flee their home in fear over that.
Notice how Spike lee got sued and had to face the music for his irresponsible actions that put people at risk.
Just some food for thought. Space wizards are real, they can make 10058 votes vanish. "and for a moment i hurd 10k goons cry out, then silence"-á |
KanashiiKami
98
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Posted - 2012.03.30 12:32:00 -
[3102] - Quote
Astenion wrote:WTF did you expect, people? You elected the Goon boss to be the boss of the CSM. That's like Americans being pissed off that the country went to **** when they voted for a Republican. Why are you shocked? If you want to have any sort of decency or integrity at the helm of the CSM, then don't vote for someone who is the self-proclaimed polar opposite.
i didnt vote for anyone ...
its the genes .... i tell you ... clones every where lol WUT ??? |
Astenion
Nephilim Coalition
145
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Posted - 2012.03.31 00:52:00 -
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Lapine Davion wrote:Astenion wrote:WTF did you expect, people? You elected the Goon boss to be the boss of the CSM. That's like Americans being pissed off that the country went to **** when they voted for a Republican. Why are you shocked? If you want to have any sort of decency or integrity at the helm of the CSM, then don't vote for someone who is the self-proclaimed polar opposite. Please explain in simple terms what CSM6 did wrong?
It was rather vague. I was commenting on the fact how everyone is screaming bloody murder with their pitchforks and torches, saying how it's such a travesty that the leader of the CSM would behave in such a way when he is a self-proclaimed griefer/ass/prick.
The CSM didn't do anything, I'm just commenting on the fact that everyone is up in arms because of his behavior as the CSM boss (as if that means anything anyway) in this whole ordeal. It's like democratically electing a Republican and then getting pissed off that they end up being overzealous, religious, sexually repressed warmongers, as if it were a surprise. What did you expect?
In other news, I feel so alone, gonna end up a big ole pile o' Them Bones.
**** your weak ass dubstep. |
Tokclik
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
20
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Posted - 2012.03.31 01:08:00 -
[3104] - Quote
"The Mittani" is not a republican. He is a totalitarian leader of a communist organization. Some might say a socialist organization if you replace "healthcare" with "PVP Reimbursements" |
Astenion
Nephilim Coalition
145
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Posted - 2012.03.31 01:18:00 -
[3105] - Quote
*facepalm*
Replace Republican with Communist or Fascist and then add dictatorship as a description then. It was just an example. I only used Republican because they're the biggest targets. Coulda used that guy whose name starts with an H but it's been overused. |
Astenion
Nephilim Coalition
145
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Posted - 2012.03.31 01:24:00 -
[3106] - Quote
Personally, I love the drama and tears from both "pubbies" and goons. Goonswarm definitely keep this game interesting. Sure, I may think Mittens is a narcissistic prick, but that's his character in-game. I've never met the guy and I'm not about to speculate about that because, quite frankly, it's irrelevant.
Bottom line is people voted for him by a landslide and then QQ when he does something exactly in line with his in-game character, and I just see that as hypocritical. What's more, the gaming press is blowing this so much out of proportion that it's hilarious. Sure, he shouldn't have done what he did and it was a really **** move, but what do people expect? He's the cult of personality in Eve. |
No DiceBuddy
Hedion University Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2012.04.01 00:39:00 -
[3107] - Quote
the whole thing is dumb. He should still be CSM. If you serve alcohol at an event like this, mistakes will happen. not like he gave the dudes name out in real life or anything. he just gonna win it next year. Goons will still troll eve and kick ass in the north. Nothing changed. now off to find myself a miner to gank. |
Nylith Empyreal
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
79
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Posted - 2012.04.01 00:40:00 -
[3108] - Quote
/queue Dora the explorer celebration soundtrack. |
Jet Aeon
Two Smoking Barrels NightSong Directorate
20
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Posted - 2012.04.01 02:34:00 -
[3109] - Quote
No DiceBuddy wrote:the whole thing is dumb. He should still be CSM. If you serve alcohol at an event like this, mistakes will happen. not like he gave the dudes name out in real life or anything. he just gonna win it next year. Goons will still troll eve and kick ass in the north. Nothing changed. now off to find myself a miner to gank. The definition of dumb is blaming this on CCP servering alcohol. Mittani wasn't drunk when he prepared his presentation and created the slide. He had days to rethink his blundered plan well before he got drunk. Well before he even touched the ground in Iceland.
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RougeOperator
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
682
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Posted - 2012.04.01 02:43:00 -
[3110] - Quote
Jet Aeon wrote:No DiceBuddy wrote:the whole thing is dumb. He should still be CSM. If you serve alcohol at an event like this, mistakes will happen. not like he gave the dudes name out in real life or anything. he just gonna win it next year. Goons will still troll eve and kick ass in the north. Nothing changed. now off to find myself a miner to gank. The definition of dumb is blaming this on CCP servering alcohol. Mittani wasn't drunk when he prepared his presentation and created the slide. He had days to rethink his blundered plan well before he got drunk. Well before he even touched the ground in Iceland.
The spin coming from the Mittani and the goons on this is rather poor when you get down to it. Space wizards are real, they can make 10058 votes vanish. "and for a moment i hurd 10k goons cry out, then silence"-á |
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MoyO zOlotse
State War Academy Caldari State
30
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Posted - 2012.04.01 02:51:00 -
[3111] - Quote
WOW Im just all WOW. This is really incredible. This is what happens when good people band together, and do the right thing.
Thank you goons for providing such entertaining and deliciously soggy tears. None of us couldnt have done it without you. With or without you. Nanh nanh nanh nanh. With or without Mitti.
How goes the movement to make this courageous move by CCP, permaneant? Say goodbye to Mitt, say hello to a fun time in EVE! |
Jet Aeon
Two Smoking Barrels NightSong Directorate
20
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Posted - 2012.04.01 03:10:00 -
[3112] - Quote
RougeOperator wrote:Jet Aeon wrote:No DiceBuddy wrote:the whole thing is dumb. He should still be CSM. If you serve alcohol at an event like this, mistakes will happen. not like he gave the dudes name out in real life or anything. he just gonna win it next year. Goons will still troll eve and kick ass in the north. Nothing changed. now off to find myself a miner to gank. The definition of dumb is blaming this on CCP servering alcohol. Mittani wasn't drunk when he prepared his presentation and created the slide. He had days to rethink his blundered plan well before he got drunk. Well before he even touched the ground in Iceland. The spin coming from the Mittani and the goons on this is rather poor when you get down to it. Yeah, I must say I'm a bit disappointed in the lack of clever spin from the Goons. I expected better. I guess Mittani's actions are just that sad that even his desiples are a bit off kilter. |
RougeOperator
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
683
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Posted - 2012.04.01 03:22:00 -
[3113] - Quote
Jet Aeon wrote:RougeOperator wrote:Jet Aeon wrote:No DiceBuddy wrote:the whole thing is dumb. He should still be CSM. If you serve alcohol at an event like this, mistakes will happen. not like he gave the dudes name out in real life or anything. he just gonna win it next year. Goons will still troll eve and kick ass in the north. Nothing changed. now off to find myself a miner to gank. The definition of dumb is blaming this on CCP servering alcohol. Mittani wasn't drunk when he prepared his presentation and created the slide. He had days to rethink his blundered plan well before he got drunk. Well before he even touched the ground in Iceland. The spin coming from the Mittani and the goons on this is rather poor when you get down to it. Yeah, I must say I'm a bit disappointed in the lack of clever spin from the Goons. I expected better. I guess Mittani's actions are just that sad that even his desiples are a bit off kilter.
Well its something very hard to defend.
Then it was on tape.
Then the recording of the goonion didn't help.
Then the twitter storm.
Then the EvE radio interview came off partially like charlie sheen.
Its really a mess.
Space wizards are real, they can make 10058 votes vanish. "and for a moment i hurd 10k goons cry out, then silence"-á |
Frying Doom
Black Thorne Corporation Black Thorne Alliance
129
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Posted - 2012.04.01 03:25:00 -
[3114] - Quote
Maybe the Goons just need to improve their morale by getting rid of their leader. Then we can go back to slamming them for being arrogant. Not just laughing at them for being a joke. Any Spelling, gramatical and literary errors made by me are included free of charge. |
Jet Aeon
Two Smoking Barrels NightSong Directorate
20
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Posted - 2012.04.01 04:56:00 -
[3115] - Quote
Goons no longer humping Mittani's leg? I don't see them going that far. |
Jita Alt666
980
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Posted - 2012.04.01 05:00:00 -
[3116] - Quote
OP: the only thing you have achieved is removing all other topics from the general discussion forum. Thankfully CCP have come to the rescue and started banning RMTers. The true blessing here is CCP have had 2 weeks of getting on with the job while the rabble rabble have been burning bonfires outside VFK (figuratively - it would be great if they did it literally) |
bilingi
Ghosts of the Storm
31
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Posted - 2012.04.01 07:08:00 -
[3117] - Quote
DeathThreats My ass lets see them... Talk about trying to get some pity shesh... |
Asuka Solo
Stark Fujikawa Stark Enterprises
1322
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Posted - 2012.04.01 07:16:00 -
[3118] - Quote
The Mittani wrote:You're not a valid subscriber, you're a NPC alt. The opinions of NPC alts don't count for anything.
~10,058~
Hahahaha...
Your 10,058 votes just got flushed down the shitter.
~Deal with it~
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Richard Desturned
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
132
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Posted - 2012.04.01 07:18:00 -
[3119] - Quote
Asuka Solo wrote:The Mittani wrote:You're not a valid subscriber, you're a NPC alt. The opinions of NPC alts don't count for anything.
~10,058~ Hahahaha... Your 10,058 votes just got flushed down the shitter. ~Deal with it~
who are you?
~dealwithit~ "Nullsec alliances will now begin counting reporters on staff along with supercapitals and tech moons. Unironically." - The Mittani |
Sir Marksalot
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
138
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Posted - 2012.04.01 07:43:00 -
[3120] - Quote
RougeOperator wrote:Jet Aeon wrote:RougeOperator wrote:Jet Aeon wrote:No DiceBuddy wrote:the whole thing is dumb. He should still be CSM. If you serve alcohol at an event like this, mistakes will happen. not like he gave the dudes name out in real life or anything. he just gonna win it next year. Goons will still troll eve and kick ass in the north. Nothing changed. now off to find myself a miner to gank. The definition of dumb is blaming this on CCP servering alcohol. Mittani wasn't drunk when he prepared his presentation and created the slide. He had days to rethink his blundered plan well before he got drunk. Well before he even touched the ground in Iceland. The spin coming from the Mittani and the goons on this is rather poor when you get down to it. Yeah, I must say I'm a bit disappointed in the lack of clever spin from the Goons. I expected better. I guess Mittani's actions are just that sad that even his desiples are a bit off kilter. Well its something very hard to defend. Then it was on tape. Then the recording of the goonion didn't help. Then the twitter storm. Then the EvE radio interview came off partially like charlie sheen. Its really a mess.
you're obsessed with mittani and you have a terrible misspelt name
are you a the internet brothel guy or the nda guy |
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