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Ladie Harlot
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2236
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Posted - 2012.03.26 18:19:00 -
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Mr Epeen wrote:Ladie Harlot wrote:Purple Madness wrote:Ladie Harlot wrote:Purple Madness wrote:This is literally the behavior of a psychopath. And where did you get your psychology degree? Stanford. Thanks for asking. You get one point for actually responding. Too bad you are lying. Somebody with some actual knowledge of psychology wouldn't diagnose psychopathy over the internet. Link your credentials to back that up. Mr Epeen
I'm not the person pretending to be a psychologist.
The artist formerly known as Ladie Scarlet. |
Ladie Harlot
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2236
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Posted - 2012.03.26 18:20:00 -
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Heimatar Auctioneer wrote:Lord Pestilence wrote:I personally posted on alt because i knew there would be attempts at swaying the discussion off topic towards who said it...not what was said.
Mittani should be held liable to his words. That he still finds this funny and only states: "deal with it!" as a reponse, just shows his true character more clearly.
I encourage everyone to petition this to CCP if you feel Mittani crossed the line in this matter. At this point, it is most likely that CCP will ask Mittani the Great to resign. Also, they will probably allow him to keep his accounts if he writes a long tearful letter explaining to the community about his lapse in judgment.
lol I like you
The artist formerly known as Ladie Scarlet. |
Gossamer DT
Wildly Inappropriate Goonswarm Federation
39
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Posted - 2012.03.26 18:21:00 -
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Lord Pestilence wrote:I personally posted on alt because i knew there would be attempts at swaying the discussion off topic towards who said it...not what was said.
Mittani should be held liable to his words. That he still finds this funny and only states: "deal with it!" as a reponse, just shows his true character more clearly.
I encourage everyone to petition this to CCP if you feel Mittani crossed the line in this matter.
I support this action, but only if you petition with an alt, becase we all know CCP won't take it serious if you petition with your main. |
Valkyria Caeli
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2012.03.26 18:23:00 -
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EL TITAN wrote:In eve griefing is fun. I attended Fanfest and this particular event. (i also won a playstation but thats another story!)
His speech was funny, of this i have no doubt as people were laughing throughout!
Funny it maybe - attempting to gather support for a mass act of bullying is pretty ****** (expecially when it can lead to death)
However, i dont think that this was really the point. the point was proberly to get people wound up and effectively be trolled!
My opinion is that this is a successfull troll and nothing more, but hey.
smoke me a kipper i'll be back for breakfast.
Titan
People also laugh when they see something that they don't know how to react to. In live theater, when someone is depicted as getting raped on stage, most of the audience will laugh and not even realize it. Actors are trained to expect this response because it is so unexpected, You just don't see it coming until the first time the scene is publicly performed. People laugh when they are not sure what to do. |
Avila Cracko
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
191
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Posted - 2012.03.26 18:24:00 -
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I will only say this, presidents and ministers of real life countries resigned for smaller things. |
Valk Enaka
The Lone Patrol Tactical Narcotics Team
0
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Posted - 2012.03.26 18:24:00 -
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With so many threads screaming to ban The Mittani for what he said, I figure it is more than right to offer my own thoughts on what happened.
I do not think what was said was tasteful, but in fairness, this is just the way the Mittani is. CCP knows this, or should know this after working with him for so long. I forget the guys name (the new CCP guy at the keynote speech at the end) but he even mentioned that the players are the ones who are doing the advertising for EVE. This is a perfect example of that advertisement. GSF and Mittani are rather well known for a variety of scamming and other things that make EVE what it is.
"We are undertaking a full internal review of this panel as well as the process used for vetting the panel's materials. Even though this panel was billed as unfiltered by CCP, we expect public presentations to be courteous and professional towards others." http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/116503-Eve-Online-Panel-Encourages-Harassing-Suicidal-Player
^this. As you said, this was an unfiltered panel, and many of the presentations during Fanfest were not family friendly anyway. Does this mean you are going to do away with the other events as well?
Additionally, the player who sent the mail...it takes all of two seconds to realize how full C&P is of whining and people seeking attention. There are many people who are willing to whine and talk about their own troubles in EVE...cough Did you do anything about that? No, because it is ridiculous to even think about it. I do think it is classy that you guys are willing to look after him and make sure he isn't getting harrased (see previous news link), but even considering punishment of Mittani would be ridiculous. Especially all these people whining about kicking him from his rightfully earned spot as CSM Chairman. As Ladie Harlot put it in another thread, "So we should ask for a psych evaluation of every pilot before we blow up their ship?" EVE is a game, and anyone who can't take it, shouldn't be playing it. The game has its ups and downs, but that is what EVE is.
The Mittani was voted in by a huge majority, and to consider kicking him from it just goes to show how little you care about the playerbase. CCP, this is where you need to show the same restraint you showed previously when other unpopular things have happened. At Fanfest you made many comments about listening to the players, and why look further than your own CSM results. As pointed out in many other threads, Mittens has received over 10,000 votes in this last election. Listen to the playerbase CCP. |
Pasen Haas
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
2
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Posted - 2012.03.26 18:24:00 -
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quevie wrote:Galadriel Vasquez wrote:I spat my coffee because I was lulzzing hard. ditto
I think we're all agreed then... this is what we need to do to fix this situation;
http://i42.tinypic.com/346s5g7.png
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Ladie Harlot
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2236
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Posted - 2012.03.26 18:24:00 -
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Valkyria Caeli wrote:EL TITAN wrote:In eve griefing is fun. I attended Fanfest and this particular event. (i also won a playstation but thats another story!)
His speech was funny, of this i have no doubt as people were laughing throughout!
Funny it maybe - attempting to gather support for a mass act of bullying is pretty ****** (expecially when it can lead to death)
However, i dont think that this was really the point. the point was proberly to get people wound up and effectively be trolled!
My opinion is that this is a successfull troll and nothing more, but hey.
smoke me a kipper i'll be back for breakfast.
Titan People also laugh when they see something that they don't know how to react to. In live theater, when someone is depicted as getting raped on stage, most of the audience will laugh and not even realize it. Actors are trained to expect this response because it is so unexpected, You just don't see it coming until the first time the scene is publicly performed. People laugh when they are not sure what to do.
People also laugh when something is funny.
The artist formerly known as Ladie Scarlet. |
Nylith Empyreal
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
18
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Posted - 2012.03.26 18:24:00 -
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And now it's all being focused here, the other threads are being locked. POST ON! |
Ntrails
Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation
56
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Posted - 2012.03.26 18:24:00 -
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I, for one, am sickened and disgusted by this behaviour.
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Pepinillos
Republic University Minmatar Republic
7
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Posted - 2012.03.26 18:25:00 -
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Can someone explain why is it that most of the players defending the Mittani are Goons? Coincidence? I don't think so... |
OfBalance
Caldari State
243
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Posted - 2012.03.26 18:26:00 -
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Pepinillos wrote:Can someone explain why is it that most of the players defending the Mittani are Goons? Coincidence? I don't think so...
What a startling insight! |
Selinate
704
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Posted - 2012.03.26 18:26:00 -
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Pepinillos wrote:Can someone explain why is it that most of the players defending the Mittani are Goons? Coincidence? I don't think so...
Because threads like this always make the worst kind of people crawl out from their holes... Just turns out that most goons are those kind of people... |
Signal11th
441
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Posted - 2012.03.26 18:26:00 -
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Here's a tip for you 5:
In order for a fire to burn you need oxygen, stop giving the fire oxygen it goes away. All the people who constantly fill the forums with Mittani this Mittani that, Goons this Goons that, really just need to read Frankenstein's Monster, then you will get it.
Props to D3 for getting in!! I know this will annoy some people more than any forum post will God Said "Come Forth and receive eternal life!"-á I came second and won a toaster. |
Tim Sebo
State War Academy Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2012.03.26 18:26:00 -
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Coming from an internet subculture which has included convicted murderers, how is this surprising to anyone? Looks like Goon behavior as usual.
Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Something_awful |
Pepinillos
Republic University Minmatar Republic
7
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Posted - 2012.03.26 18:27:00 -
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OfBalance wrote:Pepinillos wrote:Can someone explain why is it that most of the players defending the Mittani are Goons? Coincidence? I don't think so... What a startling insight!
I know right!? |
Dbars Grinding
Garoun Investment Bank Gallente Federation
393
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Posted - 2012.03.26 18:27:00 -
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I expect to see an apology from the mittani very soon. |
Ladie Harlot
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2240
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Posted - 2012.03.26 18:27:00 -
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Pepinillos wrote:Can someone explain why is it that most of the players defending the Mittani are Goons? Coincidence? I don't think so...
Members of a forum-based community enjoy posting? This is a shocking turn of events!
The artist formerly known as Ladie Scarlet. |
Razzor Death
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
172
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Posted - 2012.03.26 18:27:00 -
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I just want to thank all of you for taking part in helping to make sure the said victim finds out his most embarrassing moment in eve has gone viral and spread to the masses.
You guys are pretty sick I love this community |
OfBalance
Caldari State
243
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Posted - 2012.03.26 18:28:00 -
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Dbars Grinding wrote:I expect to see an apology from the mittani very soon.
The Mittani wrote:Ban Bindy wrote:See the thread Fanfest Alliance Panel Disgusting.
See in particular post #68, in which someone's in game eve mail is posted to the forums.
If this is what these people actually did and said at the panel, this is so totally disgusting and sadistic that it can't be accepted.
I don't care about what happens in the game, since I can't do anything about it.
Holding someone up to PUBLIC ridicule in real life and following it up by encouraging people to continue this behavior on the forums, by posting the guy's eve mail to the forums, is not acceptable behavior by a human being.
You should read the thread if you want background. The quick version is that this person was apparently very rich in the tears that these plays love so much. He is referred to as depressed and suicidal. If the thread is accurate, our CSM chair encouraged people to get in touch with this guy and harass him further and gave out his name at the panel. Someone followed this up by posting one of the guy's eve mails to the forums.
These are major eve players actually encouraging people to cause a play psychological harm, and in a PUBLIC context outside the game. This cannot be accepted. deal with it~
The apology has been given! |
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Alara IonStorm
1828
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Posted - 2012.03.26 18:29:00 -
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Valk Enaka wrote: The Mittani was voted in by a huge majority, and to consider kicking him from it just goes to show how little you care about the playerbase. CCP, this is where you need to show the same restraint you showed previously when other unpopular things have happened. At Fanfest you made many comments about listening to the players, and why look further than your own CSM results. As pointed out in many other threads, Mittens has received over 10,000 votes in this last election. Listen to the playerbase CCP.
What makes you think that the 10000 votes mean anything right now. No one voted before this happened.
-1 BTW, as much as I liked his platform. Saying find him about a player even suspected of being suicidal is just going to far in my book.
I don't care enough as current to make a huge issue over this, but I would not complain if the investigation kicks him off ether. |
EnderCapitalG
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
499
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Posted - 2012.03.26 18:29:00 -
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Pepinillos wrote:Can someone explain why is it that most of the players defending the Mittani are Goons? Coincidence? I don't think so...
And most of the players attacking him are NPC Corp Alts.
Hmmmmmmmm. |
Pasen Haas
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
2
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Posted - 2012.03.26 18:29:00 -
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Pepinillos wrote:Can someone explain why is it that most of the players defending the Mittani are Goons? Coincidence? I don't think so...
I am Wildly Inappropriate (ran out of plex's) ... and lets face it, if this was a red, I'd still be Loling and supporting them.
WI.DOT FOR MORE OFFENSIVE EVE GAMING! and maybe increased suicide rates given that our planet wont be able to support us all in the future... Noobs first, is all i'm saying. |
thekiller2002us
Order of Celestial Knights S I L E N T.
84
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Posted - 2012.03.26 18:30:00 -
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There are a lot of different points that need addressing in this scenario- the most interesting aspect is the law and the law concerning the internet and online gaming is getting more and more attention from the media and the courts- and ccp will be taking this into consideration while investigating the incident.
The MitanniGÇÖs encouragement of the persecution of another player in eve may be against CCP's Eula. EU law states that it is not illegal -"Posting a general opinion on a discussion board or in a forum is not considered cyber harassment" however it does linger on another law of 'Harassment through the Digital Medium'
Alexander Gianturco aka the mittani encouragement or 'cyber bullying' of another player until said player kills himself- as he said in Iceland on Friday is an interesting scenario- as it could possibly tie in to the interesting law of "Encouraging or assisting a suicide as a criminal offence"
In most states in Europe this is criminal law (apart from Switzerland- but IGÇÖm still unsure of Iceland). So technically if this was law in Iceland Alexander Gianturco could be charged.
^^this probably bores most players to tears- but i can understand why CCP are investigating it as they have facilitated Alexander Gianturco in voicing this. It interests me because this is has some relation to what I do.
Should the Mittani still be CSM Chair? Well, thatGÇÖs up to CCP, I personally voted for him as he sounded like a smart guy and I agreed with a lot of what he said about the game- but i personally think he has overstepped certain boundaries in this case.
Does CCP want the head of their gaming council a guy who encourages the harassment of other player until their real life death? Sounds very grim to me- but it wouldnGÇÖt' surprise me.
TLDR: Mittani did a bad thing IRL and would reflect badly on CCP I'm with Brick on this one- make thouse carebearing b******s squeal.. |
GeneralDisturbed
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
115
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Posted - 2012.03.26 18:30:00 -
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Posting in the feel-good thread of the year. I hope the space honoureless members of goonswarm who participated in this dishonoureable action are punished! |
Ntrails
Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation
57
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Posted - 2012.03.26 18:30:00 -
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Pepinillos wrote:Can someone explain why is it that most of the players defending the Mittani are Goons? Coincidence? I don't think so...
Hi, I am Ntrails. You may recognise me from previous excellent posts like "The Mittani is a smug ****", and "that's not my titan, that's my *****".
I would like to say that on behalf of my corporation, and many other member corporations in Goonswarm federations alliance, we are enacting procedures designed to strip this flagrant psychopath of his powers in this Alliance. Not because of this go harass a dude outcry, but because of the pegging comments. I really cannot believe that they are being ignored over this obviously trivial matter.
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Ladie Harlot
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2240
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Posted - 2012.03.26 18:30:00 -
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Alara IonStorm wrote:Valk Enaka wrote: The Mittani was voted in by a huge majority, and to consider kicking him from it just goes to show how little you care about the playerbase. CCP, this is where you need to show the same restraint you showed previously when other unpopular things have happened. At Fanfest you made many comments about listening to the players, and why look further than your own CSM results. As pointed out in many other threads, Mittens has received over 10,000 votes in this last election. Listen to the playerbase CCP.
What makes you think that the 10000 votes mean anything right now. No one voted before this happened. -1 BTW, as much as I liked his platform. Saying find him about a player even suspected of being suicidal is just going to far in my book. I don't care enough as current to make a huge issue over this, but I would not complain if the investigation kicks him off ether.
So next year he might only get 10,057 votes
The artist formerly known as Ladie Scarlet. |
Heimdallofasgard
Apex Clan
136
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Posted - 2012.03.26 18:32:00 -
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That mittani seems like a pretty cool guy for a guy that plays mmo's...
Glad I voted for him |
Marduk Nibiru
Physical Chaos
71
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Posted - 2012.03.26 18:32:00 -
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My Neutral Toon wrote: Its why they tell people to "LOOK FOR SIGNS" of suicidal behavior because genuine suicidal people don't make their intentions public. Mittens just harped on this fact and apparently all the softies got mad.
Well, as I mentioned elsewhere I know of at least one account of a person who did in fact commit suicide stating his intent before hand.
Another thing that's probably worth consideration here is the anonymity of the Internet. The ongoing phenomenon of people saying and doing things they might otherwise not do, due to social pressures, could also have an effect here and I don't think we can just assume that because people don't usually warn about their suicide before hand in person...that they won't on the Internet to complete strangers.
Another thing I'd like to stress is that the factual nature of his suicidal tendencies are rather beside the point to me on the issue. The kind of griefing that The Mitanni was encouraging is not a legitimate game tactic, but cyber-stalking/bullying plain and simple. |
Tim Sebo
State War Academy Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2012.03.26 18:32:00 -
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Ladie Harlot wrote:Alara IonStorm wrote:Valk Enaka wrote: The Mittani was voted in by a huge majority, and to consider kicking him from it just goes to show how little you care about the playerbase. CCP, this is where you need to show the same restraint you showed previously when other unpopular things have happened. At Fanfest you made many comments about listening to the players, and why look further than your own CSM results. As pointed out in many other threads, Mittens has received over 10,000 votes in this last election. Listen to the playerbase CCP.
What makes you think that the 10000 votes mean anything right now. No one voted before this happened. -1 BTW, as much as I liked his platform. Saying find him about a player even suspected of being suicidal is just going to far in my book. I don't care enough as current to make a huge issue over this, but I would not complain if the investigation kicks him off ether. So next year he might only get 10,057 votes
If there even is a next year for him. This may be the end of his Eve political career |
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