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Lt Pizi
Dark-Rising
2
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Posted - 2012.03.26 23:35:00 -
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Vincent VanDamme wrote:Istvaan Shogaatsu wrote:As someone who has suffered from severe depression and suicidal ideation for a majority of his life, I think it's pretty disgusting how so many people are trying to use this event as an excuse to get Mittani in trouble.
You people don't give a rat's ass about the suicidal guy in actuality, and this much is blatantly obvious - you just want to leverage the fact that "there's a suicidal guy" to get Mittens out of CSM. The "suicidal guy" in question is probably going to suffer more from the widespread media exposure you gave him by dredging up this non-event, than he would have from a handful of Goons acting predictably asinine.
Go shoot the Jita monument some more, you utter prats. Quoted for truth.
Isvaan whiteknighting
oh the irony |
Professor Alphane
Alphane Research Co-operative
407
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Posted - 2012.03.26 23:35:00 -
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Ranger 1 wrote:EnderCapitalG wrote:Bibosikus wrote:So Mittani thinks that "sending all his isk" to a suicidal player is some sort of recompense?
ffs - the twitter is yet another faux pas It has never been proven that the player is suicidal. Stop using this hilariously awful strawman. Indeed, especially since he joked about the suicide reference immediately afterward.
That was a long time ago the incident happened the conversation where he makes light of it ,something people often do with highly streesful things was recently..
Get your facts straight then try the same with your morals
YOU MUST THINK FIRST.... |
Archdaimon
Merchants of the Golden Goose
17
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Posted - 2012.03.26 23:35:00 -
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Akelorian wrote:The accusations made against him are serious and what CCP should do, is suspend The Mittani PENDING the outcome of the investigation.
What is to investigate? Watching the video 10 times over?
It's very simple. CCP will wait a few days until people cooled of, check if this is becoming a PR problem or not. If regular media picks it up, Mittani will have to respond one way or the other if he is smart he is planning now already. Worst outcome is that he is suspended or any some such similar. If regular media does not he can write it on his Goon CV and do a suicide gank massacre in jita (pun inteded).
So cry havoc and let loose the media. Can an event such as this pick up in regular media? Does Sony care?
Stay tuned for episode two.
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Grath Telkin
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
611
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Posted - 2012.03.26 23:36:00 -
[1624] - Quote
Professor Alphane wrote:
He had prepared that slide show, he had scripted and fully intended to mock the mentaly unstable , he and his goons had al;ready made the infraction, encouraging poeple to do it AGAIN was just the icing on the cake
CCP approves all that before hand, so somebody saw his slides and presentation and was ok with it.
One of the others mocked the national anthem of every country conceivable.
Another one had pictures of actual poop in it.
All that was approved by a CCP staff member before hand.
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Simetraz
State War Academy Caldari State
174
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Posted - 2012.03.26 23:36:00 -
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Manar Detri wrote: Isn't this about a csm telling people to harrass a person in an internet spaceship game in order to make him commit a suicide?:D
Idon't see how this can in any way be used for "this dude ganked me and i wanna kill maself".
It'd been great and all that if mittani went "damn, imma gonna go and find him and gank him some more". But he went and blurfed "everyone go gank him till he drops dead" so to say .
So no, if somethings done bout this ****, it sure as hell won't have an impact on ganking (remember, ganking is the point in the game).
This in of it self could be considered harassment which is a bannable offense. However generally the target of said harassment is the one that reports it NOT a third party.
BUT telling someone to do something is not the same thing as actually performing the action. Ted says "Jim go tell Scott to jump off a bridge"
Scott does it. Who is responsibile ? Well all things considered if Ted is responsibile then so is Jim.
So in short if Mitten's gets banned he won't be alone.
Should he get banned, who knows this could just be another fake show, or it could be real.
Either way it makes CSM apear to be a complete joke. Oh and the CSM itself should elect there own Chairman and in cases like this they should be making the call if he should be removed as the chairman, and CCP of course gets to decide everything else.
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Ajita al Tchar
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
157
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Posted - 2012.03.26 23:36:00 -
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POS repping is boring so I will continue shitposting as them modules keep cycling.
I had approximately exactly 0 opinion on Mittens and his CSM candidature/chairmanship (charismatic person is charismatic, and political drama is lol anyway) and I still don't really care about either of those things even in light of recent events. But in case his tweets aren't a massive trololol, I must say that I now have an opinion of him as an individual, and it is positive. People who make a mistake (and saying stupid **** when you have such a high profile position IS a mistake) but try to weasel out of it, pretend like it never happen, make up justification, etc. are pretty low on my list of people I can respect. Owning up to a mistake and be willing to accept the consequences, however, is exactly the opposite. It takes gumption. Now, obviously the world doesn't give two ***** about what I think, but such is my opinion anyway.
(In the event of it all being a massive troll this post is wired to self-destruct. Well, it would be given the option ) |
Daktar Jaxs
Wildly Inappropriate Goonswarm Federation
4
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Posted - 2012.03.26 23:36:00 -
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Darronis Olachenko wrote: Then why have you and your other goon friends spent hours here with your head up Mittani's ass responding to us pubbies?
Did you not listen to Dear Leader's presentation? We Love your tears, they fuel us. |
Professor Alphane
Alphane Research Co-operative
407
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Posted - 2012.03.26 23:36:00 -
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Terminal Insanity wrote:Vincent VanDamme wrote:Istvaan Shogaatsu wrote:As someone who has suffered from severe depression and suicidal ideation for a majority of his life, I think it's pretty disgusting how so many people are trying to use this event as an excuse to get Mittani in trouble.
You people don't give a rat's ass about the suicidal guy in actuality, and this much is blatantly obvious - you just want to leverage the fact that "there's a suicidal guy" to get Mittens out of CSM. The "suicidal guy" in question is probably going to suffer more from the widespread media exposure you gave him by dredging up this non-event, than he would have from a handful of Goons acting predictably asinine.
Go shoot the Jita monument some more, you utter prats. Quoted for truth.
Sorry BS I care nothing for CCP's psuedo political circus till now
YOU MUST THINK FIRST.... |
baltec1
880
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Posted - 2012.03.26 23:36:00 -
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Ammzi wrote:Khanh'rhh wrote:I like how everyone is posting as though Mittens actually wanted the guy dead, when it was just a joke in bad taste.
Do you guys think comedians who step over the line to be offensive because it's funny, also deserve some legal action?
Bill Hicks spent his entire career telling anyone he didn't like to go kill themselves. It was maybe a joke to some people, but for other there's consequences. The Wis says...he is getting consequences now and is being harrased for no more reason that because Mittani said so. Which is against the Terms of Services of CCP... look it up.
He is getting attacked because of you idiots making him a massive target. Nobody would have remembered him at all if not for these white knight topics. |
Manar Detri
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
7
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Posted - 2012.03.26 23:37:00 -
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Grath Telkin wrote:Manar Detri wrote:
So no, if somethings done bout this ****, it sure as hell won't have an impact on ganking (remember, ganking is the point in the game).
Not just ganking, if you can't see how this gets gamed I can lay out just ONE way. Say we have a fight, you win, I get mad. I write a letter to you including my rl Email address in it talking about how sad ive been and all the terribly sloppy thoughts that go with scumbags that think like that. I wait 2 weeks, make a bunch of **** up and send it to my Email address using a VPN to mask where it came from (this won't be an FBI investigation, it'll suffer a cursory examination, and thats all it needs) and then petition you using the mails I received in your name. Those mails crafted to be mocking, supporting suicide, complete with missives to other corp members directing them to grief myself. That took 3 minutes to think up. This sets the bar for that, you can think it won't, but it will.
Yeah but then u'd have to get teh guy to say "send emails tothis guy" on a public stream or a similar thing :o encouraging others to do it. So no you fail :P (and stop being pessimistic, NO ONE WILL TOUCH MY GANKS!)
Also, email works in real world, eve mail works on ccp servers and you ain't going to mask anything there. They know everything.
In real world a cursory examination isn't all thats done, and even through vpn you'll be tracked to ur proxy which gets a legal notice to give you up.. or suffer.
Anyways, cut this **** up already, no ones interested in this thread
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EnderCapitalG
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
544
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Posted - 2012.03.26 23:37:00 -
[1631] - Quote
But none of them were goons, you see.
Being a goon is worth all the hate in the world because, |
Headerman
Quovis CORE Alliance
726
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Posted - 2012.03.26 23:37:00 -
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Jokingly or not, encouraging someone to do their own block is just a big no-no.
Honestly, if you get your kicks from doing something like that then i seriously doubt he should be representing such a player at that level. The Apostle : I want a kangeroo Captain Kirk : Silly Austrians Sarmatiko : Let me guess: you're from US? Captain Kirk : Yeah Riverside IA - why? |
Twulf
The Konvergent League Sanctuary Pact
23
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Posted - 2012.03.26 23:37:00 -
[1633] - Quote
Grath Telkin wrote:Manar Detri wrote:
So no, if somethings done bout this ****, it sure as hell won't have an impact on ganking (remember, ganking is the point in the game).
Not just ganking, if you can't see how this gets gamed I can lay out just ONE way. Say we have a fight, you win, I get mad. I write a letter to you including my rl Email address in it talking about how sad ive been and all the terribly sloppy thoughts that go with scumbags that think like that. I wait 2 weeks, make a bunch of **** up and send it to my Email address using a VPN to mask where it came from (this won't be an FBI investigation, it'll suffer a cursory examination, and thats all it needs) and then petition you using the mails I received in your name. Those mails crafted to be mocking, supporting suicide, complete with missives to other corp members directing them to grief myself. That took 3 minutes to think up. This sets the bar for that, you can think it won't, but it will.
" using a VPN to mask where it came from" Lol wrong. VPN does mask your IP address my friend. You can mask it but not via VPN. Please stop talking about things you clearly have no information about. |
Nymph Purchasing
Ruvas Logistics and Maintenance Services
2
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Posted - 2012.03.26 23:37:00 -
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EnderCapitalG wrote:Professor Alphane wrote:Andski wrote:he's resigning the chair get over yourselves He should be banned and possibly indited mate Indicted Learn to spell, troll.
It isn't much of a troll--he did violate the EULA in a way that is supposed to result in banning and, depending on where he lives, Indictment, regardless of spelling is more realistic than you realize. I liked his leadership and hope he handles himself well now which, at this point, would indeed mean resigning.
Edited to say what I actually meant |
Lt Pizi
Dark-Rising
2
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Posted - 2012.03.26 23:37:00 -
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Grath Telkin wrote:Professor Alphane wrote:
He had prepared that slide show, he had scripted and fully intended to mock the mentaly unstable , he and his goons had al;ready made the infraction, encouraging poeple to do it AGAIN was just the icing on the cake
CCP approves all that before hand, so somebody saw his slides and presentation and was ok with it. One of the others mocked the national anthem of every country conceivable. Another one had pictures of actual poop in it. All that was approved by a CCP staff member before hand.
no looks like ccp doesnt .. did you see the guy that just came to the stage with a USBstick ? |
Professor Alphane
Alphane Research Co-operative
407
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Posted - 2012.03.26 23:37:00 -
[1636] - Quote
Grath Telkin wrote:Professor Alphane wrote:
He had prepared that slide show, he had scripted and fully intended to mock the mentaly unstable , he and his goons had al;ready made the infraction, encouraging poeple to do it AGAIN was just the icing on the cake
CCP approves all that before hand, so somebody saw his slides and presentation and was ok with it. One of the others mocked the national anthem of every country conceivable. Another one had pictures of actual poop in it. All that was approved by a CCP staff member before hand.
SONY will love it bud, the press will eat it up, the old boys club has been blown out the water I'm afraid
YOU MUST THINK FIRST.... |
Bootleg Jack
Potters Field
33
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Posted - 2012.03.26 23:38:00 -
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Andski wrote:Ammzi wrote:he is getting consequences now and is being harrased for no more reason that because Mittani said so. Which is against the Terms of Services of CCP... look it up. No, you massive moron, he's being harassed because of YOU bringing so much attention to it.
"It's the snitches fault I am in jail"
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Velios
M. Corp M. PIRE
7
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Posted - 2012.03.26 23:38:00 -
[1638] - Quote
+1 He's an idiot and not fit for purpose.
We had a guy in M. Corp that killed himself several years ago, it's not even remotely funny to make jokes about such things. Especially as for all too many people suffering from depression and similar conditions EVE is a refuge and form of escapism. |
Akelorian
FinFleet Raiden.
18
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Posted - 2012.03.26 23:39:00 -
[1639] - Quote
Andski wrote:Akelorian wrote:The accusations made against him are serious and what CCP should do, is suspend The Mittani PENDING the outcome of the investigation. you should be banned too
Thank you, I will print this post out and keep it close to my heart, because the love you have shown is very touching. |
Riddick Liddell
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
12
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Posted - 2012.03.26 23:39:00 -
[1640] - Quote
Maybe if you morons voted as much as you gossiped he wouldnt be in the CSM. |
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Grath Telkin
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
611
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Posted - 2012.03.26 23:40:00 -
[1641] - Quote
Twulf wrote: " using a VPN to mask where it came from" Lol wrong. VPN does mask your IP address my friend. You can mask it but not via VPN. Please stop talking about things you clearly have no information about.
A VPN masks your IP, your IP, would be "where it came from".
Thats what I meant when I said "to mask where it came from".
Since you're so up on the lingo I just assumed you'd know thats whats meant when dealing with digital items. |
Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
437
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Posted - 2012.03.26 23:40:00 -
[1642] - Quote
Archdaimon wrote:Akelorian wrote:The accusations made against him are serious and what CCP should do, is suspend The Mittani PENDING the outcome of the investigation. What is to investigate? Watching the video 10 times over? It's very simple. CCP will wait a few days until people cooled of, check if this is becoming a PR problem or not. If regular media picks it up, Mittani will have to respond one way or the other if he is smart he is planning now already. Worst outcome is that he is suspended or any some such similar. If regular media does not he can write it on his Goon CV and do a suicide gank massacre in jita (pun inteded). So cry havoc and let loose the media. Can an event such as this pick up in regular media? Does Sony care? Stay tuned for episode two.
Knowing how our world works, he's probably going to get a prize for stirring up lots of rabble and thus selling many more subs to a wider audience. Auditing | Collateral holding and insurance | Consulting | PLEX for Good Charity
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Meryl SinGarda
Belligerent Underpayed Tactical Team
383
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Posted - 2012.03.26 23:40:00 -
[1643] - Quote
Fact of the matter is, Mittani is a player representative. Who, outside of Test and Goons (and maybe some sheepie followers) does he actually represent?
Fly Safe, Die Hard
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Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
1262
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Posted - 2012.03.26 23:41:00 -
[1644] - Quote
Professor Alphane wrote:Ranger 1 wrote:EnderCapitalG wrote:Bibosikus wrote:So Mittani thinks that "sending all his isk" to a suicidal player is some sort of recompense?
ffs - the twitter is yet another faux pas It has never been proven that the player is suicidal. Stop using this hilariously awful strawman. Indeed, especially since he joked about the suicide reference immediately afterward. That was a long time ago the incident happened the conversation where he makes light of it ,something people often do with highly streesful things was recently.. Get your facts straight then try the same with your morals
Oh for gods sake prof, go watch the video again and read the sentence where he made the suicide reference... read what IMMEDIATELY follows it. He jokes in a direct reference to his (at that time) recent in game deaths.
He wasn't serious then, and he certainly isn't now. When I check troll in the dictionary, it has a photo shopped picture of you standing somewhere in the vicinity of a point.
Also, I can kill you with my brain. |
EnderCapitalG
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
544
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Posted - 2012.03.26 23:41:00 -
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So many mad nerds still madposting. |
Evei Shard
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
84
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Posted - 2012.03.26 23:41:00 -
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Archdaimon wrote:Akelorian wrote:The accusations made against him are serious and what CCP should do, is suspend The Mittani PENDING the outcome of the investigation. What is to investigate? Watching the video 10 times over? It's very simple. CCP will wait a few days until people cooled of, check if this is becoming a PR problem or not. If regular media picks it up, Mittani will have to respond one way or the other if he is smart he is planning now already. Worst outcome is that he is suspended or any some such similar. If regular media does not he can write it on his Goon CV and do a suicide gank massacre in jita (pun inteded). So cry havoc and let loose the media. Can an event such as this pick up in regular media? Does Sony care? Stay tuned for episode two.
With the rage in this thread and others, you'd think people would take the time to make sure the mainstream picks it up.
Profit favors the prepared |
baltec1
880
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Posted - 2012.03.26 23:41:00 -
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Nymph Purchasing wrote:It isn't much of a troll--he did violate the EULA in a way that is supposed to result in banning and, depending on where he lives, Indictment, regardless of spelling is more realistic than you realize. I liked his leadership and hope he handles himself well now which, at this point, would indeed mean resigning. Edited to say what I actually meant
No, he did not violate the eula. What he said is nothing different to what is said in crime and punishment and the countless corp and alliance forums day in day out. |
David Carel
Amok. Goonswarm Federation
206
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Posted - 2012.03.26 23:41:00 -
[1648] - Quote
Twulf wrote:Grath Telkin wrote:Manar Detri wrote:
So no, if somethings done bout this ****, it sure as hell won't have an impact on ganking (remember, ganking is the point in the game).
Not just ganking, if you can't see how this gets gamed I can lay out just ONE way. Say we have a fight, you win, I get mad. I write a letter to you including my rl Email address in it talking about how sad ive been and all the terribly sloppy thoughts that go with scumbags that think like that. I wait 2 weeks, make a bunch of **** up and send it to my Email address using a VPN to mask where it came from (this won't be an FBI investigation, it'll suffer a cursory examination, and thats all it needs) and then petition you using the mails I received in your name. Those mails crafted to be mocking, supporting suicide, complete with missives to other corp members directing them to grief myself. That took 3 minutes to think up. This sets the bar for that, you can think it won't, but it will. " using a VPN to mask where it came from" Lol wrong. VPN does mask your IP address my friend. You can mask it but not via VPN. Please stop talking about things you clearly have no information about.
You make a email account over the VPN. You send the email over the VPN.
As long the VPN provider has no logs, you're perfectly safe.
******* ******** pubbies I swear. |
Gorongo Frostfyr
Shimohi Heavy Industries
51
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Posted - 2012.03.26 23:42:00 -
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EnderCapitalG wrote:So many mad nerds still madposting. youre the biggest nerd here, sucker |
Viper ShizzIe
Habitual Euthanasia Pandemic Legion
3
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Posted - 2012.03.26 23:42:00 -
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The fact that Mittani encouraged thousands of players to harass someone with mental instability is as repulsive as it is vile; he should face the consequences for his actions. The thousands of players now using it as a platform to remove him from CSM are just as vile. You're creating the same negative situation and view of this game that he did, just not in so public a manner. |
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