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Voith
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
38
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Posted - 2012.03.27 00:23:00 -
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Professor Alphane wrote:Voith wrote:Shade Severii wrote:I love how people think it is morally wrong to bully someone's internet character (I think it is)
BUT they have no moral problem trying to get someone fired from there REAL LIFE job for bullying someones INTERNET CHARACTER
jesus christ Because this has **** all to do with Bullying and everything to do with CSM rejects and Titan pilots smelling blood in the water. I'm a carebear through and through mate LIFE is more important than your DAMNED PEW PEW GET IT Thats It.
CPP THIS MAN IS HARASSING ME
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Sidus Sarmiang
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
93
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Posted - 2012.03.27 00:23:00 -
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What we really need here is some sort of checkbox poll. |
Jojo Jackson
Dead Red Eye
96
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Posted - 2012.03.27 00:24:00 -
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Voith wrote:Avila Cracko wrote:Once again, I will only say this, presidents and ministers of real life countries resigned for smaller things. CSM: More Serious than people who actually have armies and can ******* KILL THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE "I never had sex with .." "they do have chemical weapons .." (or was it biological?) "I never took money ..." (well, this could be from every second politican *g*) Why the hell can't I fitt capital repairs or shield booster on an Orca ... it's an CAPITAL ship! |
Vincent VanDamme
Shadowfire Enterprises Rura-Penthe
12
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Posted - 2012.03.27 00:25:00 -
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Savannah Zateki wrote: But it's totally cool to threaten people's lives, right? Because that's what Mittens encouraged.
No. I actually think what he said was also uncool. I think it was the wrong thing to say, that it was a stupid mistake for him to do that, and that it wasn't funny.
It isn't the sort of mistake you try to wreck someones career over.
Don't mistake my words on this as defence of the actions occuring, i assue you, it isn't.
Shall we all leap into the RL fray, hunt down each others details, and cause crap for our employers. Shall we open that door?
Or is i best to raise it with him?
I think it already was raised to him, and he is making amends.
But..i suppose for some that isnt enough. An apology used to carry weight. Now everyone wants the "Win". The need to "Win" the metagame. Get him banned. Get him fired, wreck his life. Do what it takes. We don't like his in game stuff, so time to mess with his life.
I like winning in my battles, but not that much.
What the did was wrong. No debate.
I dont think the response is proportional, at all.
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Snow Axe
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
123
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Posted - 2012.03.27 00:27:00 -
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Amity Lane wrote:It is interesting how quickly Mittani's support in this thread has gone from "he did nothing wrong, suck it up losers" to "here's his sincere apology, please take it at face value".
Not expressing support of one side of the other. Just pointing out how fickle it appears is all.
That's the sort of thing that happens when the subject of all this scorn is halfway over the Atlantic. It's not so much fickle as it is acknowledging that his opinion on what he did is a hell of a lot more important than our opinion about what he did. Personally, I don't even think he has anything to apologize for, but that's me. He clearly feels an apology was necessary, so he did.
If anything, it should put all of this stupid "THIS IS ALL PLANNED GOON CTA DAMAGE CONTROL RABLLERABLLERABBLE" nonsense to bed, since so many of us were absolutely not on the same page as he was about it. |
DooDoo Gum
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
15
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Posted - 2012.03.27 00:27:00 -
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Vincent VanDamme wrote:Ceptia Cyna wrote:He's a lawyer in real life right? Just send the stuff to his bar association and his law firm which should be easily done with his full name. I guess they love to see the VOD of the incident, too. You know this whole responsiblity stuff when you get your admission as attorney might proof to be a bit problematic and the new laws against cybermobbing in the U.S., oh dear boy. Now this idea sounds fun don't you think? No. That is actually callous to the point of being sadistic. Did this thought give you some pleasure at all? The milisecond you start thinking about going at people IRL about this, that's the second you need to take a walk away from the game. Do not threaten peoples Jobs over a game. That is uncool. There are lines you really shouldn't be crossing. And ways you can register your displeasure of the situation. That isnt one of them.
Are you too stupid to comprehend what you just wrote in your own words ?
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ed jeni
SKULLDOGS RED.OverLord
12
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Posted - 2012.03.27 00:28:00 -
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makes those early mittani fanboi suck ups seem so.................................repulsive and sucky |
KanashiiKami
10
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Posted - 2012.03.27 00:30:00 -
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here is my view,
CCP created a unique game, and it definately attracted all kinds of unique players. the game has a unique learning curve. and the game has some unique leaning towards the dark side of things. that being so, it is inevitable that someone will rear up the dark side of his brain to commit some mischief in game, but for some committing mischief or creating the bad ass empire in game is a full time job. for some even, not having a good despicable laugh at the fallen is a sad affair. to some, they use this game to release the inner devil on unsuspecting victims.
so what did this bloke do at fanfest that made me wanna post this ? he said something in real life that encourages destruction of real human life, and bear in mind that it is not in game, and in full view of public. and to add fuel to fire, he encouraged thousands of players to do the same, to taunt a distraught person to end his own life. he should have just left his devil in game, but that being said, he probably is demonized in real life and has always been like that, i wouldnt know of course.
i have seen and heard numerous occasions of players taunting/attacking other players with the intent to create mental harm/distress directly and indirectly thru scams. in short, within the eve game, the creation of such a scenario is the sole purpose of certain players. and i have seen players getting banned before if i am not wrong (a failed grief attempt and attacker uses racists remarks on the victim, etc). for the purpose of making a strong example of the mitani's potentially deadly behavior to fellow human beings, i like CCP to pass him the life time ban on all accounts (CCP may choose to refund him unused subs, i hope he doesnt buy a gun with the refunds to grief someone in real life).
1 of the raw truths of the game --> kill or be killed. but does he need to bring it up front to some depressed folk who does not need to hear it in his face? and to say it at a fanfest? and to publicly encourage other players to do it? yes it may sound like a joke at first to some, BUT i will not laugh at it. for followers of the mitani, shame on you if you think it to be trivial that you can impose on and exert your taunts of suicide on a helpless person. i will like to see your reaction when the tables turn upon yourselves the same heartless way.
being in a position of power and having an alleviated position to implant strong suggestions to players (and CCP devs), will he next encourage all less well off players to commit suicide? or will he be more bold as to say something else in everadio that is related to real life suicide again? will he then suggest to all his "followers" in alliance and in game to vehemently strike out at all vunerable players? or suggest to them that they could make a move like he did at fanfest and openly "declare" taunts at mentally challenged players? so now has mitani become a symbol of ultimate power in eve that he can command real life players to his beck n call?
in short, CCP should and MUST make an example of this event that has happen, let your evil game character remain in game. be a mature man and have respect for real life. CCP need to promote the fact that real life is what makes this game, and the game should not be used to destroy real life.
again i motion for the all accounts ban for this person who instigated this in full view of public. i do not think anyone in real life will be having a good laugh being on the recieving end of such degrading insults and attacks, and it is morally degrading for some one to just mindlessly laugh at the victim without thought. if such is the case, then CCP has not made a game for players to be positively challenging, but morally degrading in nature. so to CCP, you have to put your foot down right here.
cheers K
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Vincent VanDamme
Shadowfire Enterprises Rura-Penthe
13
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Posted - 2012.03.27 00:30:00 -
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DooDoo Gum wrote:
Are you too stupid to comprehend what you just wrote in your own words ?
Sometimes. :)
I would say that two wrongs don't make a right. Turn the other cheek, that sort of thing. But I don't think it will play to this crowd today.
;)
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Mana Potion
Enlightened Industries Test Alliance Please Ignore
0
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Posted - 2012.03.27 00:31:00 -
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Ssakaa wrote:Evei Shard wrote:
...Someone with the right media connections could pretty much gank CCP.
They could at that. This story has legs enough. Like them or loathe them, The Guardian dead tree press, for example (Brit left-of-centre cause-championing newspaper, as linked to previously in this thread) would jump on this like you wouldn't believe. I certainly wouldn't want Polly Toynbee on my case -the sanctimony would be unbearable. In perpetuity. However, Mittani has made his apology, let's see how much this will ameliorate things. Don't hold the front page. ta heck with Polly Toynbee... I would only fear "the Church Lady"
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ching chonger
Violent Industries
0
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Posted - 2012.03.27 00:31:00 -
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Mittani is certainly a nicer guy than me - I wouldn't apologize for mocking someone who tried to garner sympathy in a spaceship game by dragging out a bunch of (unproven) facts about his personal life. If you're in such a bad shape maybe you shouldn't try to drop your problems on random strangers online and impose yourself on them?
I would never apologize for mocking someone that rude. |
Ris Dnalor
Black Rebel Rifter Club
261
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Posted - 2012.03.27 00:33:00 -
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bullshit, Mittani would get just as many votes now as he did before. give it a rest. Save the Miners! |
Lolmer
Yahoo Inc Caffeine Nicotine and Hate
21
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Posted - 2012.03.27 00:34:00 -
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From Home -+ EVE Forums -+ EVE Communication Center -+ EVE General Discussion -+ My Apology
The Mittani wrote:This has been hanging over my head since Thursday when I stumbled away from the Alliance Panel with a vague sense that I had done something horrible. I didn't know the extent of how much of a shitheel I had been until today, when footage of the presentation went up. As many of you now know, I gave out the in-game character name of a Mackinaw miner if anyone had wanted to blow him up - except that I was so smashed that I didn't recall exactly what I said (as anyone who was there can tell you). When I came to the forums the other day and saw threads complaining about my behavior - not remembering what I'd said - I assumed that I was enduring the usual anti-Goonswarm trolls, and posted something like "deal with it~" in my usual "The Mittani" way.
Then I landed, and saw the article listing my actual quote.
Christ.
I feel absolutely ashamed of my behavior at the Alliance Panel. It's one thing to play a villain in an online roleplaying game - when I post on these forums or on twitter, I usually do so as 'The Mittani', and do my level best to convince everyone that I'm an unrepentant space villain, as that kind of facade provides an in-game advantage to me and my alliance. But I am not that character in real life, as anyone who has met me can attest. I went way, way, /way/ past the line on Thursday night by mocking the Mackinaw miner at a real-life event. I, as a person, am not the entity that I play in EVE; I am not actually a sociopath or a sadist, and I certainly don't want people to kill themselves in real life over an internet spaceship game, no matter what I may say or do within the game itself. CCP may say 'EVE is Real', but EVE is not real - and the line between the game and reality should not be overstepped.
I'm relieved to discover that the Mackinaw miner is doing fine and mining away, despite being blown up by Goonswarm in-game. He deserves, and he has, my heartfelt apologies - here in public as well as a private apology. There's no excuse for what I did - while some might try to use my inebriation as a mitigating factor, I put myself in that compromised mental state, and the guilt of that is entirely mine.
If I could go back in time and not have included the slide mentioning the miner, I would do so. While the Eve Online character "The Mittani" would never apologize for any sort of villany in game, I myself, as Alex Gianturco, feel utterly ashamed and sickened by my behavior.
Now move along, we have better things to do than comment on one persons (drunk, but no excuse itself) comments to a question at a party (hosted by CCP, so what?) posting no real-life information, only in-game info (which happens all the time making fun of people about what they do in-game using their in-game info). |
Grath Telkin
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
615
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Posted - 2012.03.27 00:35:00 -
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Ris Dnalor wrote:bullshit, Mittani would get just as many votes now as he did before. give it a rest.
He'd probably get more votes tbh.
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deyaneira
5
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Posted - 2012.03.27 00:35:00 -
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I love drama. Please keep it coming. |
Ssakaa
Murientor Tribe Defiant Legacy
13
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Posted - 2012.03.27 00:36:00 -
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Mana Potion wrote: ta heck with Polly Toynbee...
Quite. Murientor tribal witch. Now with hair extensions. |
Sara XIII
My lil Tax Shelter
64
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Posted - 2012.03.27 00:37:00 -
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Where's Sandra Fluke? |
Zwo Zateki
Zwo Zateki Corporation
6
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Posted - 2012.03.27 00:39:00 -
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If these allegations prove to be true, Mittani must be banned from EVE for harassment, a grave TOS violation. |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
5799
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Posted - 2012.03.27 00:40:00 -
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Lolmer wrote:Now move along GǪbut they haven't told Mittens to go kill himself and/or have his life ruined enough yet!
GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Find more rants over at Tippis' Rants. |
Raithius
Deviance Cartel
0
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Posted - 2012.03.27 00:42:00 -
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Yawn
Srsly 92 pages? |
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Rashino Zea
Universal Freelance
1
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Posted - 2012.03.27 00:44:00 -
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{inserting personal irrelevant opinion on the matter}
{affirming that no one cares} |
Talon Scorpio
Versatech Co. Raiden.
0
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Posted - 2012.03.27 00:44:00 -
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MittenGate
awesome.
keep tweeting. |
Noddy Comet
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
1
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Posted - 2012.03.27 00:45:00 -
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Darronis Olachenko wrote:Li Malak wrote:~10,058~ Deal with it.
2.83% of 355435 eligible voters overall have voted and they love The Mittani. FTFY
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Gevlin
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
118
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Posted - 2012.03.27 00:48:00 -
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Funny to hear that so many people are crying bullying, Video games are just full of it. just we as a community can hide behind our anonymity of being on the web. Most of us are victims of real life bullying and we claim to be victims so we can do no wrong and feel justified.
The big mistake Mittens made was being a real person!
If you Punish this real person then you are treading on a slippery slop. Where does the banning end.
Care Bear Tears Spamming in local Hate eve mails Pod casts that make fun of avatars Greifing.
If there was a break in the Eula then that is an issue of CCP vs Eve, but this CyberBullying issue is someone looking for a scape goat
Eve Is netorious for Mob Mentality I agree with several people: CCP needs to focus most of eve's recources on FIS, but the development of WIS still needs to continue, just as a slower and more efficient pace. In eve I wish to be more than just a machine. |
Simi Kusoni
HelloKittyFanclub
387
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Posted - 2012.03.27 00:50:00 -
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Rashino Zea wrote:{inserting personal irrelevant opinion on the matter}
{affirming that no one cares}
-áhttp://i.imgur.com/aWNfM.jpg |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3464
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Posted - 2012.03.27 00:53:00 -
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KanashiiKami wrote:again i motion for the all accounts ban for this person who instigated this in full view of public. I agree, the people actively trying to manipulate CCP by submitting stories about this non-event to the gaming media should have all of their accounts permanently banned, period. "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
PleaseDONTblow Myship
Enlightened Industries Test Alliance Please Ignore
0
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Posted - 2012.03.27 00:54:00 -
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One thing confuses me a lot.
How can those moral guardians who despise mittens for making jokes from "severely depresed" guy wish mittens to get into jail and still manage to live with their hypocrisy? |
Lane Shift
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2012.03.27 00:54:00 -
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Kick the ****** out of the game. He has no place here.
What a piece of ****.
That is clearly harassment. |
Suicide Counsellor
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
13
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Posted - 2012.03.27 00:55:00 -
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Do you ever feel like just giving up?
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EnderCapitalG
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
562
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Posted - 2012.03.27 01:03:00 -
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Zwo Zateki wrote:If these allegations prove to be true, Mittani must be banned from EVE for harassment, a grave TOS violation.
He wasn't playing Eve Online, so there is no TOS to violate IRL. |
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