I don't agree with statements that he should get banned or perma banned as some people have called for but if he gets away free from this the rage will be so great as to make the "Summer of Rage" look like a storm in a tea kettle.

When I first saw this it was really nothing but now it's so massive there will be no forgetting or forgiving.

Just to show that the Mittani really loves us all

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I don't agree with statements that he should get banned or perma banned as some people have called for but if he gets away free from this the rage will be so great as to make the "Summer of Rage" look like a storm in a tea kettle.

When I first saw this it was really nothing but now it's so massive there will be no forgetting or forgiving.

When I first saw this it was a few people moaning about CCP, CSM and alliance reps using foul language in their presentations the same evening as the first day was broadcasted. Now it's an all out desperate war against The Mittani which just so happens to have exploded right after he was re-elected instead of two days earlier when the actual presentation was held.

Storm in a kettle is giving it too much credit; compared to monoclegate this is more like furiously stirring cups of tea.

Take that with a grain of salt, it's just my viewpoint.

Just to show that the Mittani really loves us all

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I think everyone who voted for Mitanni had and has a pretty good idea of who he is in this game and what his alliance does. Did he get drunk and carry it over the line? Sure. And now he has sincerly apologized for it.

Nothing about this situation changes anything about who The Mitanni was before FanFest or will be now. He remains an excellent chairman, elected with a record breaking +10,000 votes, with the experience and savvy the players need to get the best possible results out of the CSM process.

Like a proper adult he took responsibility for his mistake, personally apologized to the player, and has made one of the most heartfelt apologies a person can make to the players as a whole. I suggest we in turn, as a community, also show the maturity to realize everyone makes mistakes; it's how they deal with them that reveals their character. I am willing to accept his apology and move on.

Alexander Gianturco has my full confidence and support to continue as chairman of CSM7.

Protection from Harassment Act 1997

This Act was passed following concerns that stalking was not dealt with effectively under the existing legislation. The Act des not refer solely to stalking but also covers harassment in a wider sense. The Act states that it is unlawful to cause harassment, alarm or distress by a course of conduct and states that GÇÿA person must not pursue a course of conduct, which:

amounts to harassment of another
he knows, or ought to know, amounts to harassment of the other.GÇÖ

Criminal Justice and Public Order Act 1994
This Act defines a criminal offence of intentional harassment, which covers all forms, including sexual harassment. A person is guilty of an offence if, with intent to cause a person harassment, alarm or distress, he/she

uses threatening, abusive or insulting words or behaviour or disorderly behaviour; or
displays any writing, sign or other visible representation which is threatening, abusive or insulting, thereby causing that or another person harassment, alarm or distress.

Malicious Communications Act 1998/Telecommunications Act 1984
Under this Act it is an offence to send an indecent, offensive or threatening letter, electronic communication or other article to another person. Under section 43 of the Telecommunications Act 1984 it is a similar offence to send a telephone message which is indecent, offensive or threatening.

Both these offences are punishable with up to six months imprisonment and/or a fine.
The Malicious Communications offences are wider ranging, but under the Telecommunications offences, it is likely that the Police will use the former Act to bring a charge.

The Communications Act 2003
The Communications Act 2003 is by far the most recent Act to be passed. Section 127 states that a person is guilty of an offence if he/she

sends by means of a public electronic communications network a message or other matter that is grossly offensive or of an indecent, obscene or menacing character; or
causes any such message or matter to be so
A person is guilty of an offence if, for the purpose of causing annoyance, inconvenience or needless anxiety to another by means of a public electronic communications network, a message that he/she knows to be false,
causes such a message to be sent; or
persistently makes use of a public electronic communications network


Thats UK law on cyberbullying.

1. Alexander pursued a course of conduct that amounted to harrassment of another individual, as a former lawwyer he knows or ought to know that would be harrassment. Inebriation is not an excuse. So there is an argument that he has breached the protection from harrassment act in the uk.

2. Alexandeer used threatening and abusive language with an intent to cause harm whether in jest or not is not material. That is a breach of the criminal justice act.

3. Alexander sent a clear and threatening electronic message which is in breach of the malicious communication act.

4. Alexander sent a public commuciaction wth the purpose of causing annoyance and needless anxiety to another in breach of the communications act.


Maybe those of you trivialising this issue need to take a good look at yourselves. Cyberbullying costs lives. We are fortunate in this case that it hasnt however Eve wont be so fortunate in the future if this behaviiour is allowed to go unchallenged.

Alexander was incredibly stupid whilst drunk he made an odious statement that is clearly in breach of UK/EU law. Laws which were used on monday to sentence a twitter user for six months in prison for abusing Patrick Muamba after his collapse. In effect a student got sent down for mocking Muamba and saying he hoped he would die. That student didnt incite others to harrass anyone which is considered a more serious offence.

Suicide is an incredibly emotive issue one I would have thought the goons of all people would be sensitive to. Maybe those of you trolling on this thread need to take a look at yourselves. YOur defending the indefesible.


Alexander has said he will do the right thing and resign and I applaud him for that. It is an act of contrition that would go some way to rehabilitating him in my eyes. To try and weasel out of that action now would be reprehensible.

As far as the legal situation in Iceland is concerned they have applied for EU membership and are currently alighning their legal system to reflect EU law. CCP dont really have any choice but to investegate this and act accordingly. If they do not then they leave themselves open to litigation and or prosecution is situations like this happen and sombody stupid acts on it.

Alexander man up and do the right thing, resign.

Just to show that the Mittani really loves us all

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I love how the csm is so quiet. I guess most of the members are truly scared to say something bad about alex. Isn't there supposed to be some transparency here? I guess the csm really is only interested in their own little worlds. If they cared about the players they would at least SAY SOMETHING. It's funny that the only csm player who stepped up and started a forum thread gets bashed by the other csm members. I guess she didn't get the memo about how nobody on the csm can say anything bad about the king of space.

The csm is worthless. Just disband because you people aren't going to support us. How much did alex bribe the other csm's to stay quiet?

LOL

You got trolled by a serious internet spaceships brothel pimp that thinks she's relevant. Learn to internet and stop believing the first thing you read.

I love how the csm is so quiet. I guess most of the members are truly scared to say something bad about alex. Isn't there supposed to be some transparency here? I guess the csm really is only interested in their own little worlds. If they cared about the players they would at least SAY SOMETHING. It's funny that the only csm player who stepped up and started a forum thread gets bashed by the other csm members. I guess she didn't get the memo about how nobody on the csm can say anything bad about the king of space.

The csm is worthless. Just disband because you people aren't going to support us. How much did alex bribe the other csm's to stay quiet?

You'd be seeing those threads anyway; people are going to be mad at Mittens regardless of the outcome.
People need to learn to forgive and forget - and let the CSM do their job.

People were mad at Mittens before this; they were mad at Mittens during the presentation; they were mad at Mittens while the CSM announcement was made; and they'll continue to be mad at him.

The kind of witch-hunt that has grown out of his misstep more and more has the air of people finally getting a tiny gripping point that they can try to pry on to get some kind of release for all that anger and a sliver of hope that maybe they can hurt himGǪ and that's why what they're doing is no better than what he did.

The thread in response to the actual presentation and statement, compared to the furious flood of threads that came after he had been re-elected, makes it abundantly clear that this is no longer a matter of what he said or did, and has everything to do with politics and getting revenge.

The problem is he seems to have really hit a nerve with some people, on cyber bullying with some people wanting him arrested. .

Also it would be picked up by the media for sure that CCP is soft on cyber bullying and death threats.

The only thing that hit anyone's nerve was seeing the name "The Mittani" with more than double the amount of votes as the next highest candidate when the results were announced on Saturday. "GoonWaffe" and "Goonswarm Federation" probably didn't help either.

The funny/paradoxical thing about that is that, at this point, they'd probably be far better served to show their stance by banning a large swathe of the Mittens-hater crew than going after Mittens. They can't, of course, since that would blow up spectacularly and I haven't have the chance to invest in any tinfoil business yet, but stillGǪ


edit: Correction. I do have investments in the tinfoil industry. I though they were mainly into copper and iron. So go ahead!

I have heard the goons go on and on about the number of votes he got but really it is less than 3% of the games population and it doesn't really matter as he got the number 1 spot, by 1 vote or 10 million doesn't matter much.

Well it was satire for a reason you know. Who knows WHY the goons all started trying to derail those threads. My post might have reflected reality, might not, but it did have the desired effect and managed to get things back on topic so :shrugs: did the job.

Just to be clear about my personal stance.

Regardless who. If I would have seen ANYONE with influence on a larger part of EVE say those things I would have done exactly the same.

I myself don't care who you are. I would even do the same if the player who went over the line were my brother. This isn't about liking or not liking for me. This is about right and wrong for me.

Those ingame who know me know this to be true. Those who don't know me I actually don't care what they think of my actions in this.

However I do mind the way this community is behaving towards someone who's already down.
I look at Issler and Darius as opportunists who just are after their personal agenda's and lost track of the better for EVE and the community. But also as people who lost sight that behind The Mittani is a person.

They show calousness in this matter and without any remorse keep firing just to further their own goals.

Those who voted for those 2 should take a step back and rethink if these 2 are actually representing the community and the game.

Jade, the Roadhouse spam came out of the MichaeltheRed's internet tough guy posts, wherein he explained to the Goonies that he would take them all on in a fist fight. And also that he is old enough to get into bars and gets into brawls.

If anything the Roadhouse spam was started by me. Because Roadhouse is just that awesome of a movie.

lol fair enough then :)

It really does matter, though given how politically clueless you were with the whole Issler campaign thing, I'm not surprised you don't get that. ANYWAY, moving on...

The point was that the words themselves weren't the source of outrage, it was the person who said them. If it well and truly was the words, the outpouring of rage that took off on Monday would have happened within minutes of him actually saying what he did. Funny how that didn't happen, though.

[As for it would of happened there, that would depend on how drunk the crowd was and if anyone there was listening. It kicked off from the American TZ and it was broadcast all over the planet. Actually Im surprised a christian league of some kind hasn't weighed in yet.