Out of interest, are you content with what has happened (his declination of chair), and are you prepared to move forward with the CSM and work for the benefit of the game? Or are you going to sit in the corner with Darius crying about not getting chair, demanding Mittens removal from the CSM altogether and thus opening yourself up to relentless trolling?

Since the chair is ceremonial his stepping down has not meaning. He needs to resign from the CSM. Since we have no official response from CCP what he has said so far has no meaning. This absolutely meaningless jester shows he really doesn't intended to "own" what he did.

So I'll continue to work with the CSM and CCP to see that a proper conclusion is reached in this sad incident. His remaining will only undermine the support of the CSM by the majority of the players and shows that world that in Eve no amount of bad behavior has consequence is you are one of the cool kids.

Waiting to hear from CCP.

Issler

Delve really has collected itself into a kind of global cesspool

I just read the dev blog and in all the celebrating the bees seemed to have missed this......

"He has also resigned from his position as Chairman of CSM 6 and has forfeited his right to serve on CSM 7. As per our policies, this candidate may be eligible to run at a later date subject to candidacy review."

I am now satisfied the correct steps were taken. Can't wait to get to work as part of CSM 7.

Thanks to everyone that supported me in this.

Issler

Whatever anyone else is saying, I just wanted to say thanks for being up front about everything, Is.

It's a shame that Alex is off the CSM for a few reasons, he brought a lot of much needed and good changes to the table, and managed to push a lot of them through. I can't say I'm sad to see him go, though. I can only hope that having two PL people going to Iceland with the mentality that supercaps and the economy don't need a solid restructuring doesn't kill a lot of the good things that the CSM has been pushing so far. Without anyone to counterbalance them, it very well could have some bad results.

Hopefully people like Alex and yourself can be a voice of reason, even if you're not going to Iceland for a face-to-face with the devs.

Yay for political sabotage.

I say we re-run the whole CSM election and see what happens.

Since he'd still be ineligible for CSM 7 I expect some other goon candidate would get around the same number of votes.

Issler

I knew taking a stand would put my alliance at risk and already there is talk of my alliance being war-dec-ed permanently by the goons. This really will show that mittens has no remorse for his acts if he does go through with it

What other goon candidate? Lyris was the only other one and he dropped out halfway into the election. If we let a re-election happen, everyone that voted for someone other than Mittens can just do so again. This gives people who had their votes completely invalidated the chance to vote for someone else, so it's a win-win. Who knows? Even you might get some more votes.

Yeah, I did not mention him running again in the re-election. If he got booted(he did), then the whole thing should be re-done anyway.

Way to play the "meta-game" guys.

I think some of the complainers should seriously "Win at EvE".

I knew taking a stand would put my alliance at risk and already there is talk of my alliance being war-dec-ed permanently by the goons. This really will show that mittens has no remorse for his acts if he does go through with it. That he didn't see what he did as wrong and the apology was just one more act of clever manipulation to skirt the consequences of acing out.

So I am sympathetic to the idea of replacement candidate to take his seat. Not sure how that would work but some sort of election for a new chair?

All in all, sad turn of events.

Issler

So I am sympathetic to the idea of replacement candidate to take his seat. Not sure how that would work but some sort of election for a new chair?

All in all, sad turn of events.

Issler

Your tone has changed considerably? WTF happened? Reading back a bit...

Hope you didn't attract TEST's attention. TEST is like a drunk, fat, greasy date with Herpes who sorta just shows up and leaves shortly after the rest of your alliance mates leave.

You decided to be a political opportunist in a matter that did not involve you. Now I and other goons will be pushing for a wardec so we can burn your alliance to the ground.

I think an appropriate fate for you would be for us to ruin the gameplay of everyone in your alliance while we make it absolutely clear that we're doing this because of your inability to control yourself. I don't know if this will happen, but there's absolutely nothing you can do about it at this point.

Once again, you could start by talking with the rest of the CSM first before publicly posting on critical situations. You would probably have a better idea of how it might work.

Wow Hans, I was on the Skype chat for about 6 hours total yesterday and no one brought anything related to this up. You were there all the time. Great chats about guns, food and stuff.

But, sure,

Issler

This was a CCP PR issue, NOT a CSM issue. CSM should have HTFU until CCP made a decision, they are NOT supposed to have any directional input on the matter.

The Mittani was not affecting gameplay, ship balance, or the direction of development with his statement. He was just being a drunken douche. CCP gets to decide his fate due to it being in a public venue, the CSM itself has no say and should not try to abuse its power in such a situation.

My hat goes off to the CSM members who let CCP deal with the issue themselves without trying to start a public uproar. Trying to threaten a whole BUSINESS for your politics is childish and selfish.

So much this.

This was a CCP PR issue, NOT a CSM issue. CSM should have HTFU until CCP made a decision, they are NOT supposed to have any directional input on the matter.

The Mittani was not affecting gameplay, ship balance, or the direction of development with his statement. He was just being a drunken douche. CCP gets to decide his fate due to it being in a public venue, the CSM itself has no say and should not try to abuse its power in such a situation.

My hats go off to the CSM members who let CCP deal with the issue themselves without trying to start a public uproar. Trying to threaten a whole BUSINESS for your politics is childish and selfish.

Great chats about guns, food and stuff.

This guy gets it.