I find this interesting. Would you expect a public figure to apologise for expressing his enjoyment of eating pork? After all, various faiths object to the eating of pork.

Not that I agree or disagree with any of this but I couldn't help but laugh at this well thought out statement. It's ridiculous that people in the public eye have to watch everything they say for fear of making an unintentional attack on "various faiths". Even more ridiculous is the idea that an objection to suicide as a matter of faith is something that holds a special place above that of a purely moral objection.

And yet if this were a real life employee, they would have to consider everything that came out of their mouths would they not? If this comment was made by the director of CCP would we not all expect to see his resignation the following day? How is our representative any different? He is given a privilege, which he abused.

What I am referring to here is not the exact example, I am instead trying to refer to a path that should never have been walked down. There are certain topics it is just bad taste to raise.

If we are a society that does not object to jokes on a humans life, then I personally have just a little more faith in humanity.

Sad to see I was the only CSM 7 member to go on the record with my outrage at the incident.

We got what I believe is a sincere apology now the question I believe is before CSM 7, CCP and most importantly the players. "is that enough"?

Issler

True true, got your attention though didnt it?

Haha No thank you, No CSM for me )

Whats sad about fact that you are only CSM7 member who is attention seeking,unloyal drama queen?

I was very positively surprised by this fact and also by fact that even some of mittens enemies show him their support because in my book he really didnt do anything bad,which i cant say about you...

The thing I find scariest of all is the fact that so many people, seem to consider asking a crowd to try and get someone to kill them selves as foolish behavior or something that an apology and 200 bucks makes go away.

I do wonder if this is something to do with the culture of the United States, or if its a global concept. Yes he stuffed up but he did it on camera to a large audience in front of a large audience. I do actually feel sorry for the guy but worry about the future.

It's not up to you to decide if it "really cuts it", is it?

People found it hilarious. Gianturco was in no way shape or form "joking" or just blurting out drunken nonsense. The dude was tipsy but he was not falling out smashed.

^^^This

People found it hilarious. Gianturco was in no way shape or form "joking" or just blurting out drunken nonsense. The dude was tipsy but he was not falling out smashed.

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Lets face it, I haven't seen the US start wars with China like they have with every 3rd world country that couldn't fight back. It's entirely cultural to prey on the weak.

Lets face it, I haven't seen the US start wars with China like they have with every 3rd world country that couldn't fight back. It's entirely cultural to prey on the weak.

I'm going to +1 this for a couple reasons:

The last CSM was very effective because we worked hard to stay in touch and not get publicly combative and look dysfunctional. Issler, you should probably sort out your NDA and get into Skype with the rest of us. We obviously have an issue to resolve but this isn't the way to go about it. Hell, some of us are asleep, just waking up or even still in Iceland.

I'm going to +1 this for a couple reasons:

The last CSM was very effective because we worked hard to stay in touch and not get publicly combative and look dysfunctional. Issler, you should probably sort out your NDA and get into Skype with the rest of us. We obviously have an issue to resolve but this isn't the way to go about it. Hell, some of us are asleep, just waking up or even still in Iceland.

I have to disagree with this.This isn't an ingame matter or something covered with the NDA,this was a real life mistake that even Alex said he feels absolutely ashamed about.

I'm sure I'm not the only voter who is curious as to what each individual CSM rep thinks about this.This isn't the time to go into your CSM channels and work out some joint damage control.This is one of those times where people have to stand up and be counted as individuals and not hide behind a collective !

I also agree with folks that pointed out this seems to be a clear violation of the ToS and many have been removed from Eve with less evidence.

Wait, so you said something over-the-top that you didn't really mean, just to get people's attention?

Hmm, I wonder if anyone else in this thread may have been found guilty of such a low, despicable act.

BTW, how did you turn ridiculing someone's suicidal cry for attention into slander against religions that abhor suicide? Aren't you trying to stretch the victim list just a wee bit here?

How is something a player does in the real life against the ToS?

We are not responsible for actions taken by our subscribers that occur outside the jurisdiction of our game servers or web site.

If the rest of the CSM 7 can't find it in themselves to take a stand then I wonder how they think they deserve their position in the CSM.

Maybe you should read the ToS again.

I have to disagree with this.This isn't an ingame matter or something covered with the NDA,this was a real life mistake that even Alex said he feels absolutely ashamed about.

I'm sure I'm not the only voter who is curious as to what each individual CSM rep thinks about this.This isn't the time to go into your CSM channels and work out some joint damage control.This is one of those times where people have to stand up and be counted as individuals and not hide behind a collective !