Actually, yes. Yes they do. "Kill yourself irl" is a thing you see goons, esp Mittens, say all the time.

Actually, yes. Yes they do. "Kill yourself irl" is a thing you see goons, esp Mittens, say all the time.

Your point? Why do you care if I tell another goon to kill himself, or that his post was so bad that I'm going to kill myself?

I don't. I don't care at all, in fact I've come to expect it from goons.

Hence why I don't see what the fuss is about what Mittens said at the panel. My point was that it'd be hypocritical to be upset over that and not over goons posting "kill yourself irl" on various fora. Which, for the record, I don't think anyone should be.

Issler, like any other candidate ISNT on the CSM to play nice with mittens, she is there to represent people, and ensure that what goes on in CSM, what she stands for and what every one else stands for isnt sweept under the carpet, and hidden in "joint statements" saying nothing. We had enuff of that crap already.. to much null in CSM, to much politics. The part where we vote, and the ppl voted for just "vanish" to emerge a year later stating "i worked in CSM" meaning nothing - its a part we need removed from this game..

And trust me, if u wanna see eve fail epicly, burning to the ground, all it takes is CSM to pretend as nothing, CCP to pretend as nothing, Mittani - as usual not giving a **** RL or in eve.. and a a clever reporter with some free time on his hands to see Mittani's little stunt, and read this forums.. i can see the tv-show host already:
"SO this game has a playervoted leader whom not only mocks a suicidal player, OPENLY states his names - no - , he encourages players to help him out drive the guy to the ground, and if you thought thats bad, just wait until you find out that EVE's playerbase supports his actions" *WHOMP* kiss ure eve-ass goodbye... Elected CSM members like Issler making statements may be what actually would SAVE EVE in such a situation.

then you shouldn't have a problem telling it to someone's face.

And indeed I would not. It's just words.

He's probably worried that 10,000 goons will be ordered to troll him into suicide.



That statement is way out of line. Everyone is entitled to the right of due process even Mittens. And before you call be a fan boy no I am not a fan. But I believe that CCP and the CSM should handle this matter and take the action that's appropriate.

Walk up to a real goon at a bar this weekend, if you're old enough to drink, and tell him with all heartfelt sincerity he should kill himself because he's a waste of space. Go on....see what happens. That's my whole point..in the real world there are grown ass consequences for talking this kind of sht to people.

I think something similar happened once. The offending stranger got punched in the face.

But your ridiculous scenario? He would be made fun of.

He's probably worried that 10,000 goons will be ordered to troll him into suicide.

That's what I was trying to quote sorry i am to lazy to edit. The fact remains the suicide comment is out of line

Hello Issler.

I came here to tell you that you are stupid.

Just so you know~~

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gvo08_uYjHI

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decide for yourself, he seems very eager to say make him kill himself.

Drunk or not.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gvo08_uYjHI

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decide for yourself, he seems very eager to say make him kill himself.

Drunk or not.

As opposed to someone who supports Mr. I just lost 10058 votes?

He has not lost a single vote, pubies who hate him still hate him, and would have never voted for him.

Resign or not, he still won with 10k votes. That would be like saying the millions who voted for bill clinton or nixon were 'lost', when they went into scandal.

He has not lost a single vote, pubies who hate him still hate him, and would have never voted for him.

Resign or not, he still won with 10k votes. That would be like saying the millions who voted for bill clinton or nixon were 'lost', when they went into scandal.

Issler has more justification than most CSM members to go on a rant. Particularly, if she doesnGÇÖt like the way the current situation is being handled. Aside from a statement, it makes no sense for the CSM to be involved at this point. ItGÇÖs not their place. This is an issue waiting for a CCP ruling and they seem to have lost their balls. Any other player and this would have been over and done with days ago. But it seems a little favoritism has come into play...

Mittens claimed he did wrong himself, claimed he would resign himself, and left no question as to wrong doing in his own words. There is nothing more to discuss. Does he want to back out of those promises now? Does he think he has some form of voter mandate? Well, so did Nixon.

Was Mittens just talking "drunk again?" If he will not man up and take care of this himself as he said he would then let CCP apply the ban hammer to help him stiffen that spine.

I know all the little wall boogers want to swarm to their king nose picker's defense in face of the evil pubbie onslaught but there is simply no escape this time. And it's your own fault.

Wow, way to make absolutely sure that you will not get anything at all done during your CSM 7 term.

Short version the Chair of the CSM broke codes of conduct binding the behaviour of ordinary players. He did something that other player have been permabanned for. For him to remain in place after this would make a mockery of the CSM and CCP's own reputation for even-handed enforcement of rules.

No, he didn't. He didn't do anything to break any rules according to the EULA/TOS. Besides, he was in that panel as an alliance leader and Michael Boltons presentation was far more offensive...if you've an easily offended conservative who takes everything far to seriously.

No, he didn't. He didn't do anything to break any rules according to the EULA/TOS. Besides, he was in that panel as an alliance leader and Michael Boltons presentation was far more offensive...if you've an easily offended conservative who takes everything far to seriously.

Personally the whole thing, the whole reaction is hilarious, its of Daily Mail/Fox News proportions and you're acting like Glenn Beck.

No one seems to take into account that Wis guy might be have been trolling himself (this is EVE) and he might also have been botting with those 23 accounts. His reaction to this was certainly in good humour. Why not ask the person in question about how they feel about this? Because that might disarm this entire witch hunt.

Also no one seems to want to take into account that this sort of thing is a daily occurrence in most online games (note, this did not happen while in game or a game related service covered by the EULA). Some of the stuff you can hear on Xbox live makes mittanis comments look quite timid.

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No one seems to take into account that Wis guy might be have been trolling himself (this is EVE) and he might also have been botting with those 23 accounts. His reaction to this was certainly in good humour. Why not ask the person in question about how they feel about this? Because that might disarm this entire witch hunt.

Also no one seems to want to take into account that this sort of thing is a daily occurrence in most online games (note, this did not happen while in game or a game related service covered by the EULA). Some of the stuff you can hear on Xbox live makes mittanis comments look quite timid.

The worst part is where does the game go from here. If nothing is done what can CCP say if someone else starts making RL death threats or threats of a beating? What about their liability if nothing is done?

We are only talking about an advisory position to a company generating 60 million a year.

Honestly I believe he is sorry and there was no way he could know getting drunk that night would do so much. Over here we have "Don't drink and drive" ads every where, maybe someone should get him a "Don't drink and Speak on Camera" T-Shirt.

You idiot. Seriously you think this many people can be this buttmad at Mitanni, Goons, the CFS, TEST, etc and in a moment of extreme stupidity, send an eve mail that says "I'm going to kill you!". Apparently people have even threatened Mittens dog. Heard anything about anyone being arrested for that? I haven't. Heard of CCP banning any accounts cause of stuff like that? I haven't. Just. Stop. Posting.