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Grarr Dexx Amarr The Cosa Nostra La Cosa Nostra Alliance	Posted - 2008.11.18 18:45:00 - [61] Rat your way up, troll. You do the crime, you do the time.
Shirley Serious Amarr Imperial Academy	Posted - 2008.11.18 18:52:00 - [62] Edited by: Shirley Serious on 18/11/2008 18:52:43 Pirates live in lowsec. Lowsec sucks, so nobody goes there, Pirates don't get fights. Pirates unhappy. CCP observes complaints and considers this a problem. Pirates allowed into highsec, Pirates get more fights, Pirates happy. CCP observe no complaints so considers problem solved. But lowsec still sucks and nobody goes there. Lowsec made interesting, people go there, Pirates get more fights, Pirates happy. CCP observe no complaints, so considers problem solved. Yes. Yes, I am.
truckdriverED	Posted - 2008.11.18 18:55:00 - [63] I remember a while back googling the best ways to make isk and ran across this guy's signature on an isk selling web site.... hmm....
Luther Gorn	Posted - 2008.11.18 18:56:00 - [64] Real pirates don't pine for Jita.
Game Ruiner	Posted - 2008.11.18 18:59:00 - [65] Edited by: Game Ruiner on 18/11/2008 18:59:33 Originally by: Shirley Serious Edited by: Shirley Serious on 18/11/2008 18:52:43 Pirates live in lowsec. Lowsec sucks, so nobody goes there, Pirates don't get fights. Pirates unhappy. CCP observes complaints and considers this a problem. Pirates allowed into highsec, Pirates get more fights, Pirates happy. CCP switchboard and email servers melt under the weight of 100,000 angry carebears so considers problem made much worse. But lowsec still sucks and nobody goes there, but now empire sucks as bad as lowsec and nobody goes there either. jita economy collapses and CCP is bankrupt due to carebear cancellations. Lowsec made interesting, people go there, Pirates get more fights, Pirates happy. CCP observe no complaints, so considers problem solved. fixed that for you
Davina Braben	Posted - 2008.11.18 19:01:00 - [66] Hmmm. Not being able to travel in high sec seems like an effective penalty. It's a real disincentive to podkilling for example. This suggests to me it's working. Your way would allow those players to travel through high sec at will which removes a lot of the buggerance factor. Being flashy red... well that's hardly the end of the world for a PVP-er. Plus it'd allow you to pursue targets into high sec?
Gnomes Rock	Posted - 2008.11.18 19:07:00 - [67] What the OP is suggesting is free kills for people in highsec. What most of the replyers seem to be thinking is that they're the only ones in this game, and that there isn't constantly empire PvPers and nullsec PvPers moving around in Eve. (note; just because your not willing to risk your ship to have a bit of fun doesn;t mean noone else is) It's not even like pirates would be able to roam highsec in large groups, because they'd just get picked off in a fight. I don't see any real reason against this.. except maybe limiting their movement to 0.5-0.7 space.
ouroboros trading Gallente Medics On Fire	Posted - 2008.11.18 19:08:00 - [68]
Omarvelous Caldari Destry's Lounge	Posted - 2008.11.18 19:11:00 - [69] Originally by: Davina Braben Hmmm. Not being able to travel in high sec seems like an effective penalty. It's a real disincentive to podkilling for example. This suggests to me it's working. Your way would allow those players to travel through high sec at will which removes a lot of the buggerance factor. Being flashy red... well that's hardly the end of the world for a PVP-er. Plus it'd allow you to pursue targets into high sec? Couldnt pursue them if I committed a crime in low sec - Concord would still bbq me. Thats fine - the target could still escape with my request. A lot of the carebear responses I'm getting in this thread show me you guys have NO CLUE how pvp works in this game. I am NOT introducing non-consentual pvp into high sec. I STILL won't be able to gank you unless I want to lose my ship to concord. If you dont want to fight - YOU DONT HAVE TO!!!! You could see some flashy outlaws in high sec - and they couldnt do anything to you unless you decided to engage them. You could just pass them by and NOTHING would happen. A neat consequence of my idea would be for outlaws to be able to engage in war decs. Guess what - ALL of EVE could help you defend yourself against these outlaws. You could crash the party. Think of the fun - the chaos?! I am not much of a fan of war decs right now because if someone doesnt want a war - they can just run to alt corps/npc corps and avoid the war. If an outlaw decced you - you could have all of local come in and give you a hand. What outlaw corp in their right mind would camp a station when 50-60 ships in local could swarm in and attack them, and they'd only be able to respond to those that aggressed them?! If you DONT want a fight - my request does NOTHING to you. You carry on carebearing and outlaws STILL can't touch you.
Omarvelous Caldari Destry's Lounge	Posted - 2008.11.18 19:13:00 - [70] Originally by: ouroboros trading shopping Dude I explained already an outlaw would NOT want to shop in high sec. The second you undock in a trade hub you'd be roasted - with NO chance of help. I have an industrial alt to shop with - I dont need high sec - just looking to spice up the pvp in this game some more.
Omarvelous Caldari Destry's Lounge	Posted - 2008.11.18 19:14:00 - [71] Originally by: truckdriverED I remember a while back googling the best ways to make isk and ran across this guy's signature on an isk selling web site.... hmm.... Yep its a banner from an isk seller's website. http://www.swagvault.com/eve-online-c-904.html The poor english in the banner made me laugh, so I took it.
Black Scorpio	Posted - 2008.11.18 19:15:00 - [72] No, if you can't resist the "laughs" to pod ppl.. then don't cry about coming to high sec. PS: you can still move through high sec, just use your pod, sometimes even a shuttle might make it, don't know these days with the changes.. In anycase, being flashy is hardly the end i hear, find your way to a friendly 0.0 and rat for a few days..
Terraform Gallente Recreation Of The World	Posted - 2008.11.18 19:16:00 - [73] Originally by: Shirley Serious Edited by: Shirley Serious on 18/11/2008 18:52:43 Pirates live in lowsec. Lowsec sucks, so nobody goes there, Pirates don't get fights. Pirates unhappy. CCP observes complaints and considers this a problem. Pirates allowed into highsec, Pirates get more fights, Pirates happy. CCP observe no complaints so considers problem solved. But lowsec still sucks and nobody goes there. Lowsec made interesting, people go there, Pirates get more fights, Pirates happy. CCP observe no complaints, so considers problem solved. Actually, i think this would be the thing that could solve both mr.marvelous AND everyone elses problems involving low-sec. GIVE PEOPLE SOME RESON TO GO THERE OTHER THAN JUST PASSING THROUGH! This is ofcourse directed at CCP as it's theirjob to change things radically in this game. Give people some reason to go there, not just some medium fancy asteroids, but a REAL purpose. 1. Missions in low-sec, good ones! 2. Nice minerals! 3. Rats that's worth more than 25k ISK (yes i know there's big rats out there, but they are pale in comparison to the rats in 0.0 and high-sec lvl 4's). 4. Add some kind of objective or attraction to it, not sure what, but think of SOMETHING. Regardless of the OP calling me a carebear i'd love more pvp activity.
Furb Killer Gallente The Scope	Posted - 2008.11.18 19:16:00 - [74] The result will be rookies get killed alot, and sec status basicly doesnt matter anymore
Roy Batty68 Caldari Immortal Dead	Posted - 2008.11.18 19:17:00 - [75] Come on in imo.
Tippia Caldari Raddick Explorations BlackWater.	Posted - 2008.11.18 19:18:00 - [76] If you want to go fight in highsec, you can just go and do it. If you want to do it without NPC involvement, you can just go and do that too. There is no problem here that needs solving.
Omarvelous Caldari Destry's Lounge	Posted - 2008.11.18 19:19:00 - [77] Originally by: Gnomes Rock What the OP is suggesting is free kills for people in highsec. What most of the replyers seem to be thinking is that they're the only ones in this game, and that there isn't constantly empire PvPers and nullsec PvPers moving around in Eve. (note; just because your not willing to risk your ship to have a bit of fun doesn;t mean noone else is) It's not even like pirates would be able to roam highsec in large groups, because they'd just get picked off in a fight. I don't see any real reason against this.. except maybe limiting their movement to 0.5-0.7 space. E X A C T L Y A gang of outlaws would get picked off 1 by 1. High sec players could develop a coordinated attack - the pirates could just fend for themselves BY themselves. Honestly an outlaw can fly up to a cruiser hull through high sec without getting stopped by the NPCs. Smart players on a stargate however can ruin that trip! I am not restricted in my movement through high sec one bit. If I really need to move things - I cyno up a carrier and go where I need to. This is NOT about high sec MOVEMENT - its about getting MORE fights!
Omarvelous Caldari Destry's Lounge	Posted - 2008.11.18 19:20:00 - [78] Originally by: Grarr Dexx Rat your way up, troll. You do the crime, you do the time. What a fail attempt at flaming me. I'm asking for MORE fights in high sec that everyone can CHOOSE to engage in or NOT. With ALL the game mechanics in their favor!!! You seem to have a mistaken impression I wish to travel in and shop in high sec.
Omarvelous Caldari Destry's Lounge	Posted - 2008.11.18 19:21:00 - [79] Originally by: Faife military experts are calling the OP a failure I call your oversized sig a failure. Go away with your worthless input.
Omarvelous Caldari Destry's Lounge	Posted - 2008.11.18 19:27:00 - [80] Originally by: Black Scorpio No, if you can't resist the "laughs" to pod ppl.. then don't cry about coming to high sec. PS: you can still move through high sec, just use your pod, sometimes even a shuttle might make it, don't know these days with the changes.. In anycase, being flashy is hardly the end i hear, find your way to a friendly 0.0 and rat for a few days.. This thread went way over your head. I don't need tips on traveling through high sec - I can already go where I need to without any major problems. I'm not crying about not being able to TRAVEL in high sec. I want more pvp in EVE!!!
Black Scorpio	Posted - 2008.11.18 19:28:00 - [81] Originally by: Omarvelous Originally by: Gnomes Rock What the OP is suggesting is free kills for people in highsec. What most of the replyers seem to be thinking is that they're the only ones in this game, and that there isn't constantly empire PvPers and nullsec PvPers moving around in Eve. (note; just because your not willing to risk your ship to have a bit of fun doesn;t mean noone else is) It's not even like pirates would be able to roam highsec in large groups, because they'd just get picked off in a fight. I don't see any real reason against this.. except maybe limiting their movement to 0.5-0.7 space. E X A C T L Y A gang of outlaws would get picked off 1 by 1. High sec players could develop a coordinated attack - the pirates could just fend for themselves BY themselves. Honestly an outlaw can fly up to a cruiser hull through high sec without getting stopped by the NPCs. Smart players on a stargate however can ruin that trip! I am not restricted in my movement through high sec one bit. If I really need to move things - I cyno up a carrier and go where I need to. This is NOT about high sec MOVEMENT - its about getting MORE fights! Really? The way i see it is a flashy sits 10km off station in a well tanked BS, while his buddies in a nice safie. An idiot engages the flashy, the rest jump the idiot.. There you go.. i don't see why this commotion is required in high sec. There are already plenty of wars there..
Gnomes Rock	Posted - 2008.11.18 19:31:00 - [82] Originally by: Black Scorpio Really? The way i see it is a flashy sits 10km off station in a well tanked BS, while his buddies in a nice safie. An idiot engages the flashy, the rest jump the idiot.. There you go.. i don't see why this commotion is required in high sec. There are already plenty of wars there.. Suicide attacks already happen (frequently). And I still see that well-tanked BS dieing as everyone who undocks see a flashy getting attacked and decide to join in the fun while the flashies mates get concorded.
Omarvelous Caldari Destry's Lounge	Posted - 2008.11.18 19:33:00 - [83] Edited by: Omarvelous on 18/11/2008 19:33:56 Originally by: Black Scorpio Really? The way i see it is a flashy sits 10km off station in a well tanked BS, while his buddies in a nice safie. An idiot engages the flashy, the rest jump the idiot.. There you go.. i don't see why this commotion is required in high sec. There are already plenty of wars there.. You have NO clue what so ever about outlaw game mechanics. The outlaw's corp get NO - ZERO - NADA rights to attack you for attacking him. They will NOT be free to attack you at all. You can abuse the oulaw all you want - only the outlaw himself will be able to engage you back. His friends cannot jam you. His friends cannot remote rep him. He is alone. YOU can shoot him. Your friends can shoot him. The random stranger in local passing by can shoot him. Your friends can jam him. Your friends can remote rep you!! Learn the rules before you comment on them!
Buhhdust Princess Fatality.	Posted - 2008.11.18 19:34:00 - [84] Originally by: Riga Mortiss NO You chose your sec status when you decided to pirate and gate camp. Live with your choice. If you want to come back to empire grind SOH missions to rebuild your status like everyone else. Live with low status or grind missions..... those are your choices. Deal with it. Why do you associate pirates and gatecamping? not all pirates do so screw u basically.. tbh, the others are right tho, the choice to go pirate is like choosing 2 different paths. Highsec carebearing and general fail, or lowsec ownage and 0.0 lolage for funtime... i prefer lowsec myself (-9.999999 ftw) GO PIRATES
Black Scorpio	Posted - 2008.11.18 19:34:00 - [85] Originally by: Omarvelous Originally by: Davina Braben Hmmm. Not being able to travel in high sec seems like an effective penalty. It's a real disincentive to podkilling for example. This suggests to me it's working. Your way would allow those players to travel through high sec at will which removes a lot of the buggerance factor. Being flashy red... well that's hardly the end of the world for a PVP-er. Plus it'd allow you to pursue targets into high sec? Couldnt pursue them if I committed a crime in low sec - Concord would still bbq me. Thats fine - the target could still escape with my request. A lot of the carebear responses I'm getting in this thread show me you guys have NO CLUE how pvp works in this game. I am NOT introducing non-consentual pvp into high sec. I STILL won't be able to gank you unless I want to lose my ship to concord. If you dont want to fight - YOU DONT HAVE TO!!!! You could see some flashy outlaws in high sec - and they couldnt do anything to you unless you decided to engage them. You could just pass them by and NOTHING would happen. A neat consequence of my idea would be for outlaws to be able to engage in war decs. Guess what - ALL of EVE could help you defend yourself against these outlaws. You could crash the party. Think of the fun - the chaos?! I am not much of a fan of war decs right now because if someone doesnt want a war - they can just run to alt corps/npc corps and avoid the war. If an outlaw decced you - you could have all of local come in and give you a hand. What outlaw corp in their right mind would camp a station when 50-60 ships in local could swarm in and attack them, and they'd only be able to respond to those that aggressed them?! If you DONT want a fight - my request does NOTHING to you. You carry on carebearing and outlaws STILL can't touch you. What's fine is for you to get back to your gate camp and stfu, was i clear enough for you this time? You seem to not be able to comprehend it otherwise...
Black Scorpio	Posted - 2008.11.18 19:35:00 - [86] Edited by: Black Scorpio on 18/11/2008 19:35:36 Originally by: Buhhdust Princess Originally by: Riga Mortiss NO You chose your sec status when you decided to pirate and gate camp. Live with your choice. If you want to come back to empire grind SOH missions to rebuild your status like everyone else. Live with low status or grind missions..... those are your choices. Deal with it. Why do you associate pirates and gatecamping? not all pirates do so screw u basically.. tbh, the others are right tho, the choice to go pirate is like choosing 2 different paths. Highsec carebearing and general fail, or lowsec ownage and 0.0 lolage for funtime... i prefer lowsec myself (-9.999999 ftw) GO PIRATES Because it's easy. :) Edit: oh and yes, go... as long as it's not high sec :)
Omarvelous Caldari Destry's Lounge	Posted - 2008.11.18 19:36:00 - [87] Originally by: Black Scorpio What's fine is for you to get back to your gate camp and stfu, was i clear enough for you this time? You seem to not be able to comprehend it otherwise... Great reason for why my OP is a bad idea! I see I frustrated you with superior logic and knowledge, and you are left gibbering 'STFU'. I pity you.
Black Scorpio	Posted - 2008.11.18 19:36:00 - [88] Originally by: Buhhdust Princess Originally by: Riga Mortiss NO You chose your sec status when you decided to pirate and gate camp. Live with your choice. If you want to come back to empire grind SOH missions to rebuild your status like everyone else. Live with low status or grind missions..... those are your choices. Deal with it. Why do you associate pirates and gatecamping? not all pirates do so screw u basically.. tbh, the others are right tho, the choice to go pirate is like choosing 2 different paths. Highsec carebearing and general fail, or lowsec ownage and 0.0 lolage for funtime... i prefer lowsec myself (-9.999999 ftw) GO PIRATES Since you "own" so much in low sec, why don't you stay there in ... general? :P
Gnomes Rock	Posted - 2008.11.18 19:37:00 - [89] Edited by: Gnomes Rock on 18/11/2008 19:37:31 Originally by: Black Scorpio What's fine is for you to get back to your gate camp and stfu, was i clear enough for you this time? You seem to not be able to comprehend it otherwise... You seem to believe that your point has significant benefit to the thread even when you neglect to add any reasons to support it and fail to show understanding of basic game mechanics. People like you are the reason GD is going to **** to be honest..
Black Scorpio	Posted - 2008.11.18 19:38:00 - [90] Originally by: Omarvelous Originally by: Black Scorpio What's fine is for you to get back to your gate camp and stfu, was i clear enough for you this time? You seem to not be able to comprehend it otherwise... Great reason for why my OP is a bad idea! I see I frustrated you with superior logic and knowledge, and you are left gibbering 'STFU'. I pity you. So do i, seeing you drool around the gates of high sec, with an empty cargohold, and being bored b/c ppl prefer to wait and make you chew your nails with frustration :P

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