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Conlin Gallente Sarz'na Khumatari Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2009.01.17 11:14:00 - [91] I have a question for CVA . Sylph Have become a burden that CVA are prepared to support , sylphs burden has become SSI . Are you prepared to support SSI , even though they have moved in an alliance they are mutual blue to , that openly brags it was formed to invade Catch and take if for itself ?. That includes sylph space by the way
O Thief The Littlest Hobos Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2009.01.17 11:29:00 - [92] And that is not even the whole picture. SSI publically stated on their GalNet site that their intention is to grow sufficiently, and then reset the Providence block. Whilst the CVA will of course have no love for U'K, at least we are honest and open in our intentions and consistent in our position. The same cannot be said for SSI who simply 'say what they must' to selfishly further their own cause. I'm not trying to justify our poisiton here, I don't feel we have to - we act unilaterally, in good cause, and have the capability and drive to see this campaign to its logical conclusion. In some ways SSI have been extremely foolish - they established an outpost 5 jumps from an -A- station system, without consulting them. They then threaten us. Given that we have a keen interest in not having our travel pipes blocked by upstarts with no regard for the wider political situation, we reacted proportionally to their threats. The combination of those two factors, and the threats SSI made to us before a shot was fired, along with the docking rights they have granted to GoonSwarm, do not bode well for their future in the area. SSI were shown last night the kind of firepower that can be brought to bear against them. Perhaps now they will consider their position more carefully and utlise the tools of diplomacy more carefully.
Il Morte	Posted - 2009.01.17 15:08:00 - [93] It seems that all hope for peace between the parties in Catch is lost. I was hoping this would not be so. As for CVA and UK unless CVA denounces slavery and the Amarrian EmpireÆs stance on that it seems they will have constant friction with UK. AS for UK it seems as their fight for freedom will never cease. If they are not holding space nor care to hold space they truly have nothing to lose, other than ships which are easily replaced I am sure. Sylph seems to remain silent on this, and SSI really has not made any intelligent response whatsoever nor have they really defended these accusations of planning on turning on Sylph, CVA and Co. I wonder if at any time UK has ever reached out to Sylph to try to re knew diplomatic relations with them. As it seems there are 2 sides to the story of Sylph and UK one from CVA and one from UK but nothing from Sylph again. I wonder why the indifference to these matters happening on their front door. I wonder if there is any chance for peace amongst any of these groups and just the fact that you are talking makes me think that some day their might be. There is always hope. The fact that Sylph is silent and SSI can not articulate in the common language all too well makes me believe that, that might be harder to broker. However peace in catch could be attainable if the wounds of the past are allowed to heal. If I sound nanve here please forgive my nanvetT as I would hope to see peace amongst the stars. I dream of a place where, neutrals all work together and grow strong together, where neutrals and young corporations can flourish and grow. (man this mindflood is pure) I only ask is there no chance for peace in Catch and providence
Mister Builder SSI-Holding's SYSTEM SHOCK INITIATIVE	Posted - 2009.01.17 23:00:00 - [94] Again we came in peace,we wished to remain out of the war between uk and cva and co,we came down to to our own thing,but uk decided to attack first and as question later there were no talks at all from there side.then they demand us to pick a side in a war we wanted no part of then ofcourse we gonna choose the side that doesnt attack us any sane person would you dont repetedly stab a man while asking him to be friends now do you.as far as the goons go,you see 1 goon in system and suddendly were buddy buddy, the goon is a former allaince mate that left us to join them but i can see again uk does loves to make wild accusations with out any proof what so every. if youd listen to them they make us out to be the agressors here why for any reason would we chose to attack a much larger organization with out the proper manpower please dont be ridiculous.
Ironlenny Minmatar SOUTHERN REAPERS SYSTEM SHOCK INITIATIVE	Posted - 2009.01.17 23:46:00 - [95] The issue here is not about slavery, it is about us having a station. You did not bother us until we put up the station, and then all of a sudden we became "evil slavers". Don't hind you greed behind moral superiority.
Karn Mithralia Neh'bu Kau Beh'Hude Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2009.01.18 00:13:00 - [96] Edited by: Karn Mithralia on 18/01/2009 00:15:41 Il Morte you have a pretty fair grasp of it. There is certainly a chance (remote I agree given CVA's presence) for peace in Catch and Providence, our terms are well known, my door is always open. SSI, lieing does you no favours, you and I both know diplomacy was attempted on several occasions. Harvest what you sow my friends, just as our death star harvests the hulls of you and your allies ships one by one.
shanda captison The Littlest Hobos Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2009.01.18 00:16:00 - [97] Originally by: Ironlenny The issue here is not about slavery, it is about us having a station. You did not bother us until we put up the station, and then all of a sudden we became "evil slavers". Don't hind you greed behind moral superiority. You work and support the act of slavery and those who carry it out. We attack all slavers equally and without prejudice, you can ask your friends Sylph how often we are spotted in their space. However what sets you aside, as it may seem, is that you are closer to the stations we currently base out of, meaning less travel time for our brave warriors. Originally by: Mister Builder edit:and to farther prove my statments you ask for us to side with you and now you drop a pos in our space to threaten our sov wich you have cleary stated many times that you had no interest in it yet more lies from uk The placing of a tower in your "space" is simply an instrument to force enguagements. Encourged by recent successful captial kills, (which I'm sure you are aware of) and the two large towers we liberated off you, we thought we'd put them to good use. This has already been a resounding success as this evening SSI, Sylph and Providence residents sent a fleet down to attempt, one must assume, reinforcement of the tower or at least incapp the mods. The results of this were 38 slaver ships killed including 19 battleships at the cost of 5 support ships for us. Several modules on the pos were successfully incapped, though the tower itself was not shot. They are currently being repaired, and the tower should be back to full working order soon. Your signature exceeds the maximum allowed dimensions of 400x120 pixels -Sahwoolo Etoophie ([email protected])
Ironlenny Minmatar SOUTHERN REAPERS SYSTEM SHOCK INITIATIVE	Posted - 2009.01.18 00:23:00 - [98] Originally by: Karn Mithralia Edited by: Karn Mithralia on 18/01/2009 00:15:41 SSI, lieing does you no favours, you and I both know diplomacy was attempted on several occasions. As I recall, your "diplomacy" consisted of showing up in system and making demands. I'm amazed we didn't fall in line right then and there.
Ironlenny Minmatar SOUTHERN REAPERS SYSTEM SHOCK INITIATIVE	Posted - 2009.01.18 00:41:00 - [99] Ushra'Khan is not interested in the cause of slavery, they are interested in the cause of grief. They say they want peace, but they always engage in war. They call us liars, but are not truthful about their own motivations. ----------------------------------------------- Master off all trades, except for ore mining, gas mining, ice mining, t1 prod
Karn Mithralia Neh'bu Kau Beh'Hude Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2009.01.18 00:52:00 - [100] Edited by: Karn Mithralia on 18/01/2009 00:52:29 Unfortunately for you Ironlenny most people on this summit, friend and foe alike, know me to be a man of my word. I can recall three separate occasions that we discussed a diplomatic resolution with you. Once early in the piece when you were full of bravado and proud of your independence from CVA and Sylph, talked of just walking in and taking their space from them, and how you shot anyone and everyone who came through like real null-sec tough guys. Later I approached someone I assumed was high up in your command to find out who I needed to speak with for further diplomacy. The response was pathetic - it both mocked me for not knowing and lied to me about who actually leads you (the pilot in question claimed he did). Finally as we started ramp up pressure (in part due to the above exchange) your actual (well so I assume) diplomat approached me and asked for our terms. I stated them clearly as always and your diplomat offered us a once of delivery of ice instead. Laughable is a word that comes to mind when I consider the diplomatic abilities of your alliance.

Mattduk Gallente Universal Army Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2009.01.18 00:57:00 - [101] Originally by: Ironlenny Originally by: Karn Mithralia Edited by: Karn Mithralia on 18/01/2009 00:15:41 SSI, lieing does you no favours, you and I both know diplomacy was attempted on several occasions. As I recall, your "diplomacy" consisted of showing up in system and making demands. I'm amazed we didn't fall in line right then and there. I think the problem here is that you are not being informed of the diplomatic efforts we made prior to returning fire and the events leading up to the failed attempt by several alliances to reinforce our starbase. I have read the communiques sent from our diplomats to your diplomats, over the past 3 weeks, maybe longer, and you were given ample chance to publicly denounce slavery in order to avoid any further engagements by UK pilots. It could all have been over with very quickly and very easily if you had simply listened to our terms. You make too many assumptions, I fear. Jump Bridges? **** idea.
Ironlenny Minmatar SOUTHERN REAPERS SYSTEM SHOCK INITIATIVE	Posted - 2009.01.18 01:20:00 - [102] Originally by: Mattduk I have read the communiques sent from our diplomats to your diplomats, over the past 3 weeks, maybe longer, and you were given ample chance to publicly denounce slavery in order to avoid any further engagements by UK pilots. You make demands, and try to coerce us into accepting them, sounds like typical bull tactics to me.
Mattduk Gallente Universal Army Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2009.01.18 01:23:00 - [103] So you admit you read them also then? They weren't demands. They were our terms, and let's be honest here, those terms are not exactly a surprise to anyone who has even half a finger on half a pulse.
Ironlenny Minmatar SOUTHERN REAPERS SYSTEM SHOCK INITIATIVE	Posted - 2009.01.18 01:26:00 - [104] Do what we say or we'll shoot you. Sounds like demands to me. I'm not surprised by them, but let's call them for what they are.
Drakmor Gallente Clan Shadow Wolf Sylph Alliance	Posted - 2009.01.18 03:23:00 - [105] Edited by: Drakmor on 18/01/2009 03:26:56 Sylphs Policy is not to reply on galnet to accusations or our policies the History between Slyph and Ushra'Khan is well known and Karn spin as much as you want Sylph was not a backstabber till you allowed pirates to operate from your outpost something we refused to do with CVA.. Then with word from your own FC Sapphrine time for Sylph to get off the fence and chose a side As for the SSI issue Sylph has always made friends and helped where we could.. No one from sylph are to respond to this post thats a standard policy spin as you wish we know what true fancy how Sylph are not Rpers but you still insist on running us down as slavers just becuase of a belief difference between you and CVA Drakmor Sylph President
Conlin Gallente Sarz'na Khumatari Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2009.01.18 07:52:00 - [106] Originally by: Drakmor Edited by: Drakmor on 18/01/2009 03:26:56 Sylphs Policy is not to reply on galnet to accusations or our policies the History between Slyph and Ushra'Khan is well known and Karn spin as much as you want Sylph was not a backstabber till you allowed pirates to operate from your outpost something we refused to do with CVA.. Then with word from your own FC Sapphrine time for Sylph to get off the fence and chose a side As for the SSI issue Sylph has always made friends and helped where we could.. No one from sylph are to respond to this post thats a standard policy spin as you wish we know what true fancy how Sylph are not Rpers but you still insist on running us down as slavers just becuase of a belief difference between you and CVA Drakmor Sylph President So you spin standard policy as well ?. Your alliance has become a wasted scrap of its former self Drakmor , I doubt there is more than a handful of former veterans from sylph who know the differences between Sylph & U'K . Who know the full story to even reply at all . I will not waste my time replying to SSI and their endless lies , as I stated before , SSi has become Sylphs burden , one that CVA seems to want to distance themselves from . We have our differences with CVA for sure , but they can at least see past the endless lies for what they really are . Sylph and the providence blocked failed last night in an attempt to remove our outpost . I throw a gauntlet to you Drakmor , your numbers greatly outnumber our small alliance . Just U'K & Sylph ,settle old wounds now , a fight to the end . What say you ? .
Conlin Gallente Sarz'na Khumatari Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2009.01.18 11:31:00 - [107] You still maintain nuetral standings SSI ? http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=975144
Poreuomai Minmatar Mirkur Draug'Tyr Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2009.01.18 11:34:00 - [108] Quote: i am representing SystemShockInitiative we are based in catch region and are part of a massive coalition formed to fight AAA Interesting ... *Let My People Go*
Mister Builder SSI-Holding's SYSTEM SHOCK INITIATIVE	Posted - 2009.01.18 23:13:00 - [109] you'll have to excuse the poster of that msg he knows not what he speaks of as he is to new to allaince to know what we do..but with your usaly lies you'll spin it how every ya want it is what ya do if anything it should read its against you s**and thugs in uk for ya unproked attacks up on but at this point i dont really give a what you think and grow sick and tired of your mindless bull**
O Thief The Littlest Hobos Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2009.01.18 23:22:00 - [110] The past few days have been a cause for much celebration in U'K. Fortune has favoured us. Though good fortune is, of course, backed up by a sound plan, and brave warriors to execute it. Until now, SSI have been something of a distraction, and nothing more. However since they rejected our diplomatic efforts, lied on GalNet, and the hurled abuse at our pilots in local, we knew something had to be done. We decided therefore to ramp up the pressure on SSI. The opening salvo was us disabling their station services, with a U'K only fleet, and a show of our conventional force. A few days later, more of their capital ships were destroyed in a successful baiting operation in their own cynojammed system, with additional firepower provided by -A-. We then decided to increase the pressure on them by making them the sole focus of our guerilla operations. Until now, they have only known passing gangs. For the past 48 hours, they have experienced something quite different. Our brave warriors have been relentless in denying them all use of their space, in an operation designed to hit morale and their wallets. Kills have been plentiful. To add insult to injury, we then anchored one of SSI's liberated Amarrian towers in their space. It was quickly assaulted, with only half its defences operational, by an 80 man fleet. However, well co-ordinated POS gunning and support work destroyed half their fleet, and forced a retreat. Later that day, will nearly all the starbase defences fully operational and manned, they tried again. Once more, well co-ordinated POS gunning resulted in the swift destruction of half of their battleships, forcing another retreat. The starbase is now fully operational, fully manned, and we await their next move with baited breath, eager to up the kill tally of their own large tower. As for Sylph alliance, we welcome their intervention. Cannon fodder is a cause for much celebration in the ranks of our brave warriors.

Poreuomai Minmatar Mirkur Draug'Tyr Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2009.01.20 09:41:00 - [111] Originally by: Mister Builder you'll have to excuse the poster of that msg he knows not what he speaks of as he is to new to allaince to know what we do. As the CEO of his corp he should know what you do. So you do not have the ability to jump from hi-sec into your own sov space? *Let My People Go*
Rorin Cutter Caldari Insidious Existence RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2009.01.20 11:40:00 - [112] Originally by: O Thief A few days later, more of their capital ships were destroyed in a successful baiting operation in their own cynojammed system, with additional firepower provided by -A-. "Lights on computer" Grabbing a cup of strong coffee and reading the days headlines in the com-link, I am thinking that this is a interesting development, -A- supporting terrorists like Ushra'Khan. It shows that it might be time to come home and help my family out for a while.
O Thief The Littlest Hobos Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2009.01.20 13:04:00 - [113] Originally by: Rorin Cutter "Lights on computer" Grabbing a cup of strong coffee and reading the days headlines in the com-link, I am thinking that this is a interesting development, -A- supporting terrorists like Ushra'Khan. It shows that it might be time to come home and help my family out for a while. My understanding is that -A- have been waiting for you and yours to assault them, and have been left wanting. I'm sure they would welcome any attempt, they are a bloodthirsty lot, to be sure. And we would surely assist in the defence of their space, and also look forward to the encounter.
shanda captison The Littlest Hobos Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2009.01.20 13:13:00 - [114] Originally by: Rorin Cutter Originally by: O Thief A few days later, more of their capital ships were destroyed in a successful baiting operation in their own cynojammed system, with additional firepower provided by -A-. "Lights on computer" Grabbing a cup of strong coffee and reading the days headlines in the com-link, I am thinking that this is a interesting development, -A- supporting terrorists like Ushra'Khan. It shows that it might be time to come home and help my family out for a while. In case you are not aware, your alliance is already supposed to be attacking -A-.
Conlin Gallente Sarz'na Khumatari Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2009.01.20 15:08:00 - [115] Originally by: Rorin Cutter Originally by: O Thief A few days later, more of their capital ships were destroyed in a successful baiting operation in their own cynojammed system, with additional firepower provided by -A-. "Lights on computer" Grabbing a cup of strong coffee and reading the days headlines in the com-link, I am thinking that this is a interesting development, -A- supporting terrorists like Ushra'Khan. It shows that it might be time to come home and help my family out for a while. Would it be they forgot , or misplaced there communique regarding the war with -A- over the past several weeks conveniently ?. Or would it be that RZR are the ones who were paid off by SSI that they so loudly voiced at us fron within there outpost ?. Also is it not the North you call home , and not Catch ?. Whatever the circumstances we eagerly await a homecoming visit from you .
Tharrn Amarr Epitoth Fleetyards Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2009.01.20 15:20:00 - [116] How fitting that the Hobos have joined UK while I was away - they have been eating out of other people's bins for quite some time. To read all this '-A- is doing this, -A- is waiting for that' by Smackdog and his cronnies reads like some pimpled kid that gets beaten up at school regularly and thinks it can threaten people with it's big brother. Ah well, at least you know people aren't afraid of you.
Xennith Neh'bu Kau Beh'Hude Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2009.01.20 15:28:00 - [117] A glowing example of Amarrian "culture" there, full of venom and little substance.
Poreuomai Minmatar Mirkur Draug'Tyr Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2009.01.20 15:36:00 - [118] Wrong, Tharrn, U'K was merely giving the appropriate credit to AAA, as any honourable warrior should understand.
Rorin Cutter Caldari Insidious Existence RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2009.01.20 16:03:00 - [119] ôShaking my head slightlyö My ôAllegianceö is to the Empire, of course in this very trying time of all out war, I like many pilots find themselves firing on those large multi corporations who call themselves the ôGBCö. And of course there old and new pets. I just didnÆt realize that the GBC were supporting terrorists. Regardless, I am very sure I will take you up on your offer to meet. Of course we have met before, Ushra'Khan And I, and that didnÆt turn out so well for you. So being the honorable pilot that I am, I suppose I should leave 9UY out of it and give you another chance. On the other hand I am very happy you picked ûA- to be your new big brother, I expect the same that happened to IAC will also happen with Ushra'Khan and the problem will be solved.
shanda captison The Littlest Hobos Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2009.01.20 16:10:00 - [120] Originally by: Tharrn How fitting that the Hobos have joined UK while I was away - they have been eating out of other people's bins for quite some time. To read all this '-A- is doing this, -A- is waiting for that' by Smackdog and his cronnies reads like some pimpled kid that gets beaten up at school regularly and thinks it can threaten people with it's big brother. Ah well, at least you know people aren't afraid of you. Though I do find the phrase Smackdog and his cronies rather funny, by the way its only one "n" in cronies. If you actually read the posts my very uneducated slaver, you'll discover -A- was originally mentioned by a Razor Alliance member regarding their planned "invasion" of -A- space, along with other members of the Northern Coalition, and has nothing to do with you. Unless you are saying you are now aligning yourself with the NC of course? This campagne has been carried out almost soley by U'K forces, apart from two occasions when -A- help was needed to take down slaver allied capital ships. We have enguaged several slaver friends fleets made up of multiple alliances, including one run by your own, by ourselves, and won every major enguagement thus far. The aim of this campagne is to kill as many slaver ships as possible in the Catch, and so far it is proving very successful. Originally by: Rorin Cutter ôShaking my head slightlyö My ôAllegianceö is to the Empire, of course in this very trying time of all out war, I like many pilots find themselves firing on those large multi corporations who call themselves the ôGBCö. And of course there old and new pets. I just didnÆt realize that the GBC were supporting terrorists. Regardless, I am very sure I will take you up on your offer to meet. Of course we have met before, Ushra'Khan And I, and that didnÆt turn out so well for you. So being the honorable pilot that I am, I suppose I should leave 9UY out of it and give you another chance. On the other hand I am very happy you picked ûA- to be your new big brother, I expect the same that happened to IAC will also happen with Ushra'Khan and the problem will be solved. Very well. I'm sure Fredo will be very happy your "alliegance" is to the empire rather then Razor. Your signature exceeds the maximum allowed dimensions of 400x120 pixels -Sahwoolo Etoophie ([email protected])



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