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O Thief The Littlest Hobos Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2008.12.28 22:30:00 - [1] The bright lights of freedom still burn in Catch. A beacon to those countless millions enduring suffering in Providence at the hands of slavers. But dark times fall upon this region. Friends of slavers are not welcome in Catch, even more so during diffucult times. War is no excuse for an increase in human trafficking. It is the determination of UK that liberty and freedom shall remain, where possible. If you side with slavers you are a target. We shall relentlessly identify and harrass the assets of slavers in this region. We shall slaughter your warship fleets, and your industrial traffic. You have a choice. Support freedom. The UK hold no grudges against those who see the error of their ways. Your time in Catch shall not be profitable if you fail to renounce slavery, of that you can be assured.
Karath Piki	Posted - 2008.12.29 01:10:00 - [2] I hear the pain of your soul, longing for the grace of God, in the silences between the words you give us. Some day, you will realize the bliss in submitting to God's chosen and working penance for your sins.
Andreus Ixiris Gallente Mixed Metaphor	Posted - 2008.12.29 01:51:00 - [3] Originally by: Karath Piki Some day, you will realize the bliss in submitting to God's chosen and working penance for your sins. Oh poor deluded old man - what will you do when your god fails you? ----- CEO, Mixed Metaphor Dance Commander
Vikarion Caldari White Rose Society	Posted - 2008.12.29 02:09:00 - [4] Edited by: Vikarion on 29/12/2008 02:24:29 My mistake - edited.
Karath Piki	Posted - 2008.12.29 02:19:00 - [5] Edited by: Karath Piki on 29/12/2008 02:22:11 Originally by: Andreus Ixiris Originally by: Karath Piki Some day, you will realize the bliss in submitting to God's chosen and working penance for your sins. Oh poor deluded old man - what will you do when your god fails you? Interesting linguistic conundrum-- asking a question implying inevitability ("when") of an impossibility ("your God fails you"). I am of the understanding that most cultures had some form of belief system, perhaps yours permits fallible spirits that explain personal or team failures, or can be redefined to fit popular opinion. Needless to say, that description does not fit the absolute of the Creator, or His ineffable will.
O Thief The Littlest Hobos Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2008.12.29 02:19:00 - [6] Originally by: Vikarion Catch - currently infiltrated and largely controlled by the Angel Cartel. The Angel Cartel: a pirate faction involved in drug-running, slavery, prostitution, murder, kidnapping, racketeering, and many other illegal activities. Might I suggest directing interdiction efforts against the Cartel as well as your favorite Amarrian holders? Perhaps you are getting confused with Curse?
Vikarion Caldari White Rose Society	Posted - 2008.12.29 02:24:00 - [7] Oh, hmm, I misread Catch as Cache on my mapping software. My apologies. Of course, you might consider making efforts against any Angels you see in Catch, too, though I daresay there will be precious few. How embarrassing.
Xeronn Amarr Ordo Drakonis Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2008.12.29 02:34:00 - [8] a side effect of Her Majesty`s gracious act is an influx of terrorist threats across Galnet I urge loyal honest citizen of all races and nations to disreguard such void threats , be assured the Empire will meet with deadly force any such terrorist foolish enough to take action against civilian or military ships , anywhere in or outside Empire borders .
Xeronn Amarr Ordo Drakonis Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2008.12.29 02:38:00 - [9] Originally by: Vikarion Oh, hmm, I misread Catch as Cache on my mapping software. My apologies. Of course, you might consider making efforts against any Angels you see in Catch, too, though I daresay there will be precious few. How embarrassing. for a moment there i thought angels in curse got bored and moved over to catch aswell in order to battle the Sansha For that matter , i have some captures of thuker ships working together with sansha ships against Amarr navy ships...perhaps someone will find those..interesting in light of recent developements in the tribal space
shanda captison The Littlest Hobos Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2008.12.29 10:42:00 - [10] Originally by: Xeronn a side effect of Her Majesty`s gracious act is an influx of terrorist threats across Galnet I urge loyal honest citizen of all races and nations to disreguard such void threats , be assured the Empire will meet with deadly force any such terrorist foolish enough to take action against civilian or military ships , anywhere in or outside Empire borders . You cannot protect them as you demonstrated yesterday. To make matters worse to bolster your fleet numbers you forced these "citizens" to join, and their blood and bits of their ships now litter upper Catch, along with you their masters. The empire is strong in Providence, there is no question of that. But your arrogence of thinking you can cast your will and control outside will only end with more blood spilt from your pilots, and those you force to die alongside you. Your signature exceeds the maximum allowed dimensions of 400x120 pixels -Sahwoolo Etoophie ([email protected])

Solusar Amarr Auctoritan Syndicate Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2008.12.29 14:46:00 - [11] Originally by: shanda captison Originally by: Xeronn a side effect of Her Majesty`s gracious act is an influx of terrorist threats across Galnet I urge loyal honest citizen of all races and nations to disreguard such void threats , be assured the Empire will meet with deadly force any such terrorist foolish enough to take action against civilian or military ships , anywhere in or outside Empire borders . You cannot protect them as you demonstrated yesterday. Im sorry did you reinforce the POS you were siegeing or not? Ofcourse I do look forward to the logic that you "destroyed more ships than we lost therefore we won even if we failed in our strategic objectives", or that you never planned to destroy the tower or whichever way you wish to spin it for our amusement. You did indeed win the initial fight when we entered the system with 13 battleships jumping into your bubble camp with 23 battleships at 150km. But as always you failed to press the advantage and left the system. We have seen it many times before and we will see it many times in the future. If the best you can do is fail to reinforce a single medium control tower then things are not going to change. It is nice to see that the diplomatic approach you used to turn all of Providence against you is now being used in Catch. Why bother doing research on people when its easier to just presume things and start shooting. Freedom indeed.
Andreus Ixiris Gallente Mixed Metaphor	Posted - 2008.12.29 15:02:00 - [12] Originally by: Karath Piki Interesting linguistic conundrum-- asking a question implying inevitability ("when") of an impossibility ("your God fails you"). Being a fictional entity, the chances of your god failing you when you require its help are 1 in 1. No conundrum here, sir. Originally by: Karath Piki I am of the understanding that most cultures had some form of belief system, perhaps yours permits fallible spirits that explain personal or team failures, or can be redefined to fit popular opinion. Needless to say, that description does not fit the absolute of the Creator, or His ineffable will. If it's ineffable (unknowable, indescribable), how do you know that it's infallible? It can't (knowingly) be both. If it is ineffable, it's impossible to know whether it's infallible or not. Conversely, if it's infallible, what need would it have to be ineffable? ----- CEO, Mixed Metaphor Dance Commander
O Thief The Littlest Hobos Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2008.12.29 15:17:00 - [13] Originally by: Solusar Im sorry did you reinforce the POS you were siegeing or not? Let's think about this a second, shall we? You arrived to 'save' your friends, and were promptly decimated (along with them)... with only a single lost battleship on the UK side. Our fleet was entirely intact. And yet, with total control of the field, and your few remaining ships bouncing between safe spots, we looted and left. Why would we do that, if our genuine concern was reinforcing the POS? The answer is simple. We don't care about the POS. We care about disprupting the activities of slavers in Catch and making life as inconvenient and difficult as possible. We expected the POS to give us the opporunity of a battle on the exit of reinforced. But luck was on our side, and you arrived early, saving us a considerable amount of ammunition in the process. The point remains: the friends of slavers are no friends of ours, and have no business in a free region such as Catch. But it is not too late for them, should they choose to renounce slavery the UK will hold no grudges.
Xennith Neh'bu Kau Beh'Hude Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2008.12.29 15:19:00 - [14] Edited by: Xennith on 29/12/2008 15:19:43 Actually Solusar, our kill records show you engaging with an equal sized sniper fleet and losing. Theres been a lot of speculation within the Ushra'Khan on if your decision to fight with even odds was due to faulty intel, arrogance, or a change in your MO, I had hoped for the later personally, but I know its unlikely.
shanda captison The Littlest Hobos Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2008.12.29 15:31:00 - [15] Originally by: Solusar Im sorry did you reinforce the POS you were siegeing or not? Ofcourse I do look forward to the logic that you "destroyed more ships than we lost therefore we won even if we failed in our strategic objectives", or that you never planned to destroy the tower or whichever way you wish to spin it for our amusement. You did indeed win the initial fight when we entered the system with 13 battleships jumping into your bubble camp with 23 battleships at 150km. But as always you failed to press the advantage and left the system. We have seen it many times before and we will see it many times in the future. If the best you can do is fail to reinforce a single medium control tower then things are not going to change. It is nice to see that the diplomatic approach you used to turn all of Providence against you is now being used in Catch. Why bother doing research on people when its easier to just presume things and start shooting. Freedom indeed. Ah nothing tastes better then bitter slaver fleet commander tears. Firstly if youÆre going to moan about how we were setup on the gate; donÆt jump in, or come up with better tactics rather then sitting there and dying. Next it was 23 BS against our 18 with total gangs roughly even at just over 40 ships. DonÆt forget when reading your battle report that you need to include your pets that lost ships aswell, including a very nice officer and deadspace fitted Abaddon I might add. You see helpers of the slavers, your master CVA dont recognise you at all. Why keep needlessly sacrificing your ships for overlords who dont even know you exist? Anyway your support were outclassed and your battleships were too static and not controlled properly - which was obvious when some came back in once an obvious retreat had been called. Originally by: Solusar It is nice to see that the diplomatic approach you used to turn all of Providence against you is now being used in Catch. Why bother doing research on people when its easier to just presume things and start shooting. Freedom indeed. And this is just priceless. Providence wasnÆt against us before? That is nice to know that even after destroying billions of isk worth of assets, along with a couple of OrcaÆs recently, that the Providence dwellers still liked us. Your signature exceeds the maximum allowed dimensions of 400x120 pixels -Sahwoolo Etoophie ([email protected])
Conlin Gallente Sarz'na Khumatari Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2008.12.29 15:36:00 - [16] Originally by: Solusar Originally by: shanda captison Originally by: Xeronn a side effect of Her Majesty`s gracious act is an influx of terrorist threats across Galnet I urge loyal honest citizen of all races and nations to disreguard such void threats , be assured the Empire will meet with deadly force any such terrorist foolish enough to take action against civilian or military ships , anywhere in or outside Empire borders . You cannot protect them as you demonstrated yesterday. Im sorry did you reinforce the POS you were siegeing or not? Ofcourse I do look forward to the logic that you "destroyed more ships than we lost therefore we won even if we failed in our strategic objectives", or that you never planned to destroy the tower or whichever way you wish to spin it for our amusement. You did indeed win the initial fight when we entered the system with 13 battleships jumping into your bubble camp with 23 battleships at 150km. But as always you failed to press the advantage and left the system. We have seen it many times before and we will see it many times in the future. If the best you can do is fail to reinforce a single medium control tower then things are not going to change. It is nice to see that the diplomatic approach you used to turn all of Providence against you is now being used in Catch. Why bother doing research on people when its easier to just presume things and start shooting. Freedom indeed. He ought to take a closer look at his family tree. There must have been a lot of lemons ........
Supay Caldari The Littlest Hobos Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2008.12.29 19:12:00 - [17] Edited by: Supay on 29/12/2008 19:12:15 I think we all know to what we can attribute the sudden loss in performance of the Amarrian fleets. With the recent emancipation of a large number of their highly skilled slaves, the fat, decadent and inbred-brain damaged Amarrians are obviously unable to manage their ships themselves. .
Conlin Gallente Sarz'na Khumatari Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2008.12.29 22:33:00 - [18] Originally by: Solusar Originally by: shanda captison Originally by: Xeronn a side effect of Her Majesty`s gracious act is an influx of terrorist threats across Galnet I urge loyal honest citizen of all races and nations to disreguard such void threats , be assured the Empire will meet with deadly force any such terrorist foolish enough to take action against civilian or military ships , anywhere in or outside Empire borders . You cannot protect them as you demonstrated yesterday. Im sorry did you reinforce the POS you were siegeing or not? . Mission Accomplished . The offending object has been removed . We of the Ushra'Khan continue our fight on the slavers !
Solusar Amarr Auctoritan Syndicate Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2008.12.29 22:44:00 - [19] Edited by: Solusar on 29/12/2008 22:44:57 Thankyou for proving my point Ushra'Khan. Everything that happens in the system for 1 hour before CVA jump in count as battle numbers Everyone that lives in catch is automatically part of CVA fleets. Please continue. Failing to reinforce a single medium tower and claiming victory is brilliant.
O Thief The Littlest Hobos Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2008.12.29 22:57:00 - [20] Originally by: Solusar Edited by: Solusar on 29/12/2008 22:44:57 Thankyou for proving my point Ushra'Khan. Everything that happens in the system for 1 hour before CVA jump in count as battle numbers Everyone that lives in catch is automatically part of CVA fleets. Please continue. Failing to reinforce a single medium tower and claiming victory is brilliant. Most interesting. I must inform the UK Council that you know our objectives better than we apparently do. We define victory as a fairly evenly matched fight, in which we wipe out your fleet for what even the most bitter amarrian slaver would call 'minimal losses'. We then loot your wrecks, celebrate, and return with the spoils of war. We certainly could have carried on shooting the tower if that had been our goal. You were in no position to stop us, having just lost your entire fleet bar a few battleships cowering in safe spots. Think about that. The facts at hand are as follows: you lost a fight. We achieved our objective of forcing one. If we cared for that random tower on an unprecious moon in a system we do not claim, we would have finished shooting it, and you could not have prevented us from doing so. The fact of the matter is that you don't have the first clue what our objectives were. The other fact of the matter, something we can both clearly see, is that your 'golden fleet' met a fiery end at the hands of those who fight for freedom. When you look at the actual events, rather than your groundless hypothesising, it was a victory no matter how much you may squirm or spin. Away from the Jump Bridges and pet meatshields of Providence, the CVA are just another fighting force. Competent enough, oh yes, but prone to errors of judgement like anyone. Perhaps you underestimated us? You know the solution, bring twice the numbers next time - it always worked for you in the past.

Xennith Neh'bu Kau Beh'Hude Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2008.12.29 22:59:00 - [21] i count more than 13 CVA BSs, even discounting the one we killed earlier, and of course not including your support fleet, or the pets who turned up flying expensive ships far beyond them. looks like somebody in cva is not reporting their loses.
O Thief The Littlest Hobos Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2008.12.29 23:06:00 - [22] We killed only 1 battleship before the main fight itself. There are 18 CVA + friends battleships on my kill report. I think that concludes the numbers discussion. Support numbers were initially equal.
shanda captison The Littlest Hobos Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2008.12.29 23:52:00 - [23] Edited by: shanda captison on 29/12/2008 23:52:44 Originally by: Solusar Edited by: Solusar on 29/12/2008 22:50:34 Thankyou for proving my point Ushra'Khan. Everything that happens in the system for 1 hour before CVA jump in count as battle numbers Everyone that lives in catch is automatically part of CVA fleets. CVA jumped in exactly 13 battleships vs your 23. Random catch residents that you destroyed for no reason prior to this event do not count in CVA fleet numbers, or is that how numbers are decided these days? Please continue. Failing to reinforce a single medium tower and claiming victory is brilliant. If you're going to be emo about losing fleets to us, next time just stay at home. You were out FCed and out skilled, just take it as a loss and let it go slaver. Your signature exceeds the maximum allowed dimensions of 400x120 pixels -Sahwoolo Etoophie ([email protected])
Karin Katari Minmatar Neh'bu Kau Beh'Hude Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2008.12.30 01:46:00 - [24] Originally by: Solusar ...CVA jumped in exactly 13 battleships vs your 23.... ...Failing to reinforce a single medium tower and claiming victory is brilliant. Yes, because putting the tower into reinforcement was our objective... rolls eyes I understand if you want to make yourself feel better but back it up with something. Actions speak louder than words, and our actions have proven you can't just toss us aside or recruit us into your army of pets and slaves. Additionally, I saw more than just 13 battleships. In fact the first battle had 16 Battleships in your "glorious" fleet according to my camera drones recordings. More came, and more died. Pretty simple if you think about it. For Our People, Karin
O Thief The Littlest Hobos Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2008.12.30 22:18:00 - [25] Wasted journeys are the best journeys. In another vain attempt to protect slavers in Catch, CVA called upon their Providence allies this evening, since they were unable to match UK alone, and took them on a wasted trip. UK, acting alone, had camped a key travel pipe for two hours unchallenged, netting several profitable kills, and during the ensuing boredom incapped several faction mods on a slaver deathstar POS. Because we could. After their defeat in the last more evenly matched engagement, CVA came down heavy with double the number of battleships we fielded this evening, thanks to support from Paxton and Sylph. The CVA seem completely unable to face UK alone, they once again call upon pets and slaves to bolster numbers, and their own shattered confidence. The warriors of the UK find it quite hilarious that this once proud and confident foe now needs the support of several alliances (all each individually larger than UK) before considering a fight. And even then, the best they can manage is a wasted journey... the warriors of UK simply moved two jumps to a station system belonging to our friends in the freedom loving -A- alliance. The rabble went home with nothing. Not a single kill. Slavers and their assets will be harrassed in Catch. You are not safe until you renounce slavery. Your time here will not be profitable, but UK are forgiving people and you need only renounce the slavers to be welcomed with open arms. The CVA might well consider their own credibility, in being unable to face UK alone in battle. How the mighty have fallen.
Cribb Minmatar Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2008.12.30 23:00:00 - [26] ..CVA jumped in exactly 13 battleships vs your 23.... ...Failing to reinforce a single medium tower and claiming victory is brilliant. Really i looked at the kb and the battle was 4 ships in our favor 16 of those where CVA batttleships so you might urge your members to give a precise ship count when leaving home. Sure we had theupperhand, but that is what counts in a battle. So stop whining that we not destroyed our target. Cause we met our target perfectly. You came and lost. ------- When in doubt, play loud
Kelban Kevar Gallente The Order of Black Knights SYSTEM SHOCK INITIATIVE	Posted - 2008.12.30 23:10:00 - [27] lets see were do i start as far as i know my allaince does not support slavery basicly cause we dont roleplay and as far as cva slpyh and the rest of providence coming down to help out that would be because your trying to oppress my allaince in to being slaves for you when you ya self are slaves and pets of -a- we came out as neutral party to a place that was unclaimed we did our own logistics and building of everything we have with out help from any one ....there were no diplomate contact with us by you guys at all cpt you you showed up and started shooting my ppl.your then drove us to get closer ties with the the very ppl you dislike with ya constant attacks and you then fall back on ya rp to justicify it as attacking slavers no sir if any one is at fault it is you and ya epic failed rping.and farther more you did not run 2 jumps away as we had scout at the station system belonging to -a- you sir ran all the way back to curse and now you spout off in here nowing not many ppl will read it cause is a uk thread good day you and yours thugs,terrorist and slaver wanna be's
Equinox Daedalus Caldari The Legion of Spoon Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2008.12.30 23:23:00 - [28] We come for your people. Due to the Empresses' decree there is a need for more slaves to be taken in. Thou I think O thief and his master are far from being able to be reconditioned properly. CVA's stance is clear, we will come and aid allies when asked. I clearly cannot help it that everyone in providence wants to shoot you . We cannot determine who comes, or who shows up to assit allies, all we can do is continue the true path to enlightment. Perhaps one day, soon, we'll get to have a decent show. The Legion of Spoon : Upon wings of wax I fly, never to close too the sun
O Thief The Littlest Hobos Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2008.12.30 23:53:00 - [29] Originally by: Kelban Kevar lets see were do i start as far as i know my allaince does not support slavery basicly cause we dont roleplay and as far as cva slpyh and the rest of providence coming down to help out, that would be because your trying to oppress my allaince in to being slaves for you, when you ya self are slaves and pets of -a- we came out as neutral party to a place that was unclaimed we did our own logistics and building of everything we have with out help from any one ....there were no diplomate contact with us by you guys at all cpt you you showed up and started shooting my ppl. your then drove us to get closer ties with the the very ppl you dislike with ya constant attacks and you then fall back on ya rp to justicify it as attacking slavers no sir if any one is at fault it is you and ya epic failed rping. and farther more you did not run 2 jumps away as we had scout at the station system belonging to -a- you sir ran all the way back to curse and now you spout off in here nowing not many ppl will read it cause is a uk thread good day you and yours thugs,terrorist and slaver wanna be's [OOC: I made some amendments to your post in order to make it a little easier on the eyes, hope that is okay /OOC] Where shall we start? Lets try the beginning. We know you made arrangements with those sickening slaver supporters in Sylph alliance regarding your relocation, we know members of your alliance are active in their intel channels reporting UK movements. This was all in place before you deployed your outpost. We also know that your alliance is CVA friendly. And, that you will respect their engagement rules and blue lists, you are nothing but a slavers pet. This was all in place before you were red to us. In addition, we know it is your alliance goal (you state it publically on your Galnet site) to grow to 1000 members and then reset standings with CVA and Sylph, using them as a prop whilst you grow, and then adopt full NBSI. So, not only are you working hand-in-hand with slavers, you lie and cheat too. Your alliance diplomats have repeatedly requested blue standings over the past few days. And yet, you will not renounce slavery. You refuse to embrace freedom, free from the shackles of the CVA, despite your intention to backstab them in the future. We cannot be friends with those who support the depraved slavers who live in Providence. We have explained this to you many times. Now you call in slavers on your side again. The asteroid belts will run red with the blood of your pilots. Your assets will be constantly harrassed. Your lives will be made impossible. The fact is, your lives in Catch will not be a living hell until you publically renounce slavery and the CVA. You will find only misery in Catch, as things currently stand. You will not find profitable business here. You have a choice. Think about your options very carefully.
Kelban Kevar Gallente The Order of Black Knights SYSTEM SHOCK INITIATIVE	Posted - 2008.12.31 00:28:00 - [30] good play at twisting the truth there to fit ya needs and as far as nbsi it we run that now during ops as far as a reset goes those that have always helped out and we repesct arnet going anywere. as far as leing and cheating goes we have done nothing like taht i think your just ****ed we have acomplished much in our short time by ourselves and your just a bit jealous perhaps out there living in a npc region after all



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