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Janus Ovellian	Posted - 2004.10.01 02:12:00 - [211] Looking forward to getting my Munin now... fitted with 720 II's and my current skills, gives me an optimal range equal to the max targeting range of my Rupture atm. =) How cool is that!? Being able to hit for more dmg over ~50 odd km optimal, RULES!!! Apologies if this post makes little -> no sense. I am drunk beyohnd belief. And am finding it hard rto typ e at thenm oment. Soory. Interesting times await...
Janus Ovellian	Posted - 2004.10.01 02:12:00 - [212] Looking forward to getting my Munin now... fitted with 720 II's and my current skills, gives me an optimal range equal to the max targeting range of my Rupture atm. =) How cool is that!? Being able to hit for more dmg over ~50 odd km optimal, RULES!!! Apologies if this post makes little -> no sense. I am drunk beyohnd belief. And am finding it hard rto typ e at thenm oment. Soory. Interesting times await...
Siroc	Posted - 2004.10.01 14:43:00 - [213] Smolder009, I love my long range setup as well, but in my post I was talking about someone elses short range setup. Makes no sense when I see people who put heavy launchers on short range setups. I think rocket launchers or assalts do much better job in that case and leave more room for other toys.
Siroc	Posted - 2004.10.01 14:43:00 - [214] Smolder009, I love my long range setup as well, but in my post I was talking about someone elses short range setup. Makes no sense when I see people who put heavy launchers on short range setups. I think rocket launchers or assalts do much better job in that case and leave more room for other toys.
Smolder009	Posted - 2004.10.01 16:32:00 - [215] Ah, I misunderstood. Hmmm... it's something to ponder on. I'm actually just getting into the short-range set-up... I had been doing long-range with shield-tanking for the longest. I can definitely see where that extra 100MW would come in handy. My first trial setup with 1600mm plating, I had to equip 2 small autocannons, which is no good. It was still a fun change of pace, though... nothing like flying a cruiser and still being able to dogfight with frigs. I was also considering throwing on a medium smart-bomb for PVP drone defense. So my end setup would look something like this: Hi-slots -------- 3x 220, EMP ammo 1x M Thermal SB 2x rocket launcher, one for defenders Med-slots --------- MWD T2 tracking computer Webby Lo-slots -------- 1600mm plating T2 small armor repair Explosive armor hdnr Warp core stabby T2 Tracking Drones ------ 12x asstd. light scout I think this is a setup that could deal out some major grief on a BS, especially with an EW support wingmate. Orbit at 7.5K... whenever opponent launches drones, scoop my drones and hit the SB, re-launch drones. Whatcha think? Smolder009. --- Required reading for all Eve players: Stephen R. Donaldson's Gap Cycle. The Gap Cycle is to SF as Lord of the Rings is to Fantasy. Believe it.
Smolder009	Posted - 2004.10.01 16:32:00 - [216] Ah, I misunderstood. Hmmm... it's something to ponder on. I'm actually just getting into the short-range set-up... I had been doing long-range with shield-tanking for the longest. I can definitely see where that extra 100MW would come in handy. My first trial setup with 1600mm plating, I had to equip 2 small autocannons, which is no good. It was still a fun change of pace, though... nothing like flying a cruiser and still being able to dogfight with frigs. I was also considering throwing on a medium smart-bomb for PVP drone defense. So my end setup would look something like this: Hi-slots -------- 3x 220, EMP ammo 1x M Thermal SB 2x rocket launcher, one for defenders Med-slots --------- MWD T2 tracking computer Webby Lo-slots -------- 1600mm plating T2 small armor repair Explosive armor hdnr Warp core stabby T2 Tracking Drones ------ 12x asstd. light scout I think this is a setup that could deal out some major grief on a BS, especially with an EW support wingmate. Orbit at 7.5K... whenever opponent launches drones, scoop my drones and hit the SB, re-launch drones. Whatcha think? Smolder009. --- Required reading for all Eve players: Stephen R. Donaldson's Gap Cycle. The Gap Cycle is to SF as Lord of the Rings is to Fantasy. Believe it.
Siroc	Posted - 2004.10.01 20:47:00 - [217] I am pretty much clueless about PvP at the moment, I can probably write a book on rat hunting though :) So I can not say anything about PvP. For rat hunting, I find Stabber is much more fun in close setup config. It actualy outruns heavy missles from their cruisers, and it only has 1 weapon based bonus so it is not too bad to stick some better tracking guns then projectiles. Try it. Orbiting at 1.5k/s around (insert your prey here) and slapping him silly with lasers (for tracking) and rocket launchers is a quite an expirience. Feels like flying oversized ultra cool looking frigate :) I tried as far as Arch Angel Legionere (bad spelling). And at that speed nothing can touch you realy (no missles no guns). Small tech 2 armor repair can tank damage at this speed easy. I am using 100ab there though.
Siroc	Posted - 2004.10.01 20:47:00 - [218] I am pretty much clueless about PvP at the moment, I can probably write a book on rat hunting though :) So I can not say anything about PvP. For rat hunting, I find Stabber is much more fun in close setup config. It actualy outruns heavy missles from their cruisers, and it only has 1 weapon based bonus so it is not too bad to stick some better tracking guns then projectiles. Try it. Orbiting at 1.5k/s around (insert your prey here) and slapping him silly with lasers (for tracking) and rocket launchers is a quite an expirience. Feels like flying oversized ultra cool looking frigate :) I tried as far as Arch Angel Legionere (bad spelling). And at that speed nothing can touch you realy (no missles no guns). Small tech 2 armor repair can tank damage at this speed easy. I am using 100ab there though.
Imhotep Khem	Posted - 2004.10.01 22:55:00 - [219] would you show your whole fitting? I have never seen a fitting on a cruiser with a 100mn AB. Sounds limiting. ____ If your not dyin' your not tryin'.
Imhotep Khem	Posted - 2004.10.01 22:55:00 - [220] would you show your whole fitting? I have never seen a fitting on a cruiser with a 100mn AB. Sounds limiting. ____ If your not dyin' your not tryin'.
RabbidFerret	Posted - 2004.10.02 02:31:00 - [221] Bump :)
RabbidFerret	Posted - 2004.10.02 02:31:00 - [222] Bump :)
UnFriendly Fire	Posted - 2004.10.02 03:06:00 - [223] Edited by: UnFriendly Fire on 02/10/2004 03:10:02 Originally by: Imhotep Khem would you show your whole fitting? I have never seen a fitting on a cruiser with a 100mn AB. Sounds limiting. Most common design using a 100MN ab has 1 100mn AB and 1 10 mn mwd, 3 heavy missile launchers, it outruns interceptors. Incredibly boring to fight. :/
UnFriendly Fire	Posted - 2004.10.02 03:06:00 - [224] Edited by: UnFriendly Fire on 02/10/2004 03:10:02 Originally by: Imhotep Khem would you show your whole fitting? I have never seen a fitting on a cruiser with a 100mn AB. Sounds limiting. Most common design using a 100MN ab has 1 100mn AB and 1 10 mn mwd, 3 heavy missile launchers, it outruns interceptors. Incredibly boring to fight. :/
Persia	Posted - 2004.10.02 07:22:00 - [225] Dual MWD, dual 100mn AB and a mix of the two are very common in 0.0 (at least down where I am). Not much gets close to them, and they wtfpwn frigs (interceptors) rather well. My favourite setup is as follows, 3 x Hvy Launcher 3 x 250 Arty 2 x 100mn AB (tech2) 1 x web 3 x RCU 2 x Cap Relay I carry a scrambler as well so I can dock and change configs as necessary.
Persia	Posted - 2004.10.02 07:22:00 - [226] Dual MWD, dual 100mn AB and a mix of the two are very common in 0.0 (at least down where I am). Not much gets close to them, and they wtfpwn frigs (interceptors) rather well. My favourite setup is as follows, 3 x Hvy Launcher 3 x 250 Arty 2 x 100mn AB (tech2) 1 x web 3 x RCU 2 x Cap Relay I carry a scrambler as well so I can dock and change configs as necessary.
Agentile	Posted - 2004.10.02 11:38:00 - [227] I have used my rupture for a very long time now and yes...its the best cruiser in the game. Mine is used mainly down in .1 sec and I have no probs with it. My setup is: 3x 720 3x Heavys 1x Med shield booster II 1x Shield boost amp 1x Cap recharger 2x co-pro II 1x Gyro II 1x ballistic 1x tracking mod
Agentile	Posted - 2004.10.02 11:38:00 - [228] I have used my rupture for a very long time now and yes...its the best cruiser in the game. Mine is used mainly down in .1 sec and I have no probs with it. My setup is: 3x 720 3x Heavys 1x Med shield booster II 1x Shield boost amp 1x Cap recharger 2x co-pro II 1x Gyro II 1x ballistic 1x tracking mod
Sharkey	Posted - 2004.10.02 11:42:00 - [229] Edited by: Sharkey on 02/10/2004 11:44:53 Quote: Smolder009, I love my long range setup as well, but in my post I was talking about someone elses short range setup. Makes no sense when I see people who put heavy launchers on short range setups. I think rocket launchers or assalts do much better job in that case and leave more room for other toys. I believe that was me who put heavy launchers on a short range setup. Indeed, a rookie mistake. Has since been rectified Edit: I can't spell.
Sharkey	Posted - 2004.10.02 11:42:00 - [230] Edited by: Sharkey on 02/10/2004 11:44:53 Quote: Smolder009, I love my long range setup as well, but in my post I was talking about someone elses short range setup. Makes no sense when I see people who put heavy launchers on short range setups. I think rocket launchers or assalts do much better job in that case and leave more room for other toys. I believe that was me who put heavy launchers on a short range setup. Indeed, a rookie mistake. Has since been rectified Edit: I can't spell.
Admiral IceBlock	Posted - 2004.10.02 11:56:00 - [231] 3 x Heavy Launchers 3 x 250mm Projectiles 1 x 10MN MWD 1 x 100MN AB 1 x Warp Disruptor / Webifier 5 x Cap Relays excellent frigate killers and not much can catch them. my dual mwd rupture goes 6932m/s, and i can fly that speed forever. the reason why ppl use dual mwd is becouse cruisers defence sucks, they dont stand a chance without it. a mwd'ing cruiser has like 10 times the chance to survive a fleet battle without getting destroyed compared to a normal cruiser with no mwd's. i think dual mwd's are lame, but its the only way to go if you want defence vs battleships. "We brake for nobody"
Admiral IceBlock	Posted - 2004.10.02 11:56:00 - [232] 3 x Heavy Launchers 3 x 250mm Projectiles 1 x 10MN MWD 1 x 100MN AB 1 x Warp Disruptor / Webifier 5 x Cap Relays excellent frigate killers and not much can catch them. my dual mwd rupture goes 6932m/s, and i can fly that speed forever. the reason why ppl use dual mwd is becouse cruisers defence sucks, they dont stand a chance without it. a mwd'ing cruiser has like 10 times the chance to survive a fleet battle without getting destroyed compared to a normal cruiser with no mwd's. i think dual mwd's are lame, but its the only way to go if you want defence vs battleships. "We brake for nobody"
Siroc	Posted - 2004.10.04 16:04:00 - [233] Edited by: Siroc on 04/10/2004 16:14:29 My Stabber's setup is not realy dual MWD one. A single 100AB ised there to conserve energy and give me ability to go at high speed non stop. I find that stabber just does not have enough capacitor/lows to give him enough charge to run 10MWD for any reasonable time. The only downside of it is that you can't realy use cruiser guns (not enough PG), but you would not realy want to because they do not track fast enough at that speed anyway. So frigate guns that is. I do not remember details, search for my post on "Screaming Stabber", I did post it once there. Admiral, that rupture setup seems pretty good. Can you take a battleship with it?
Siroc	Posted - 2004.10.04 16:04:00 - [234] Edited by: Siroc on 04/10/2004 16:14:29 My Stabber's setup is not realy dual MWD one. A single 100AB ised there to conserve energy and give me ability to go at high speed non stop. I find that stabber just does not have enough capacitor/lows to give him enough charge to run 10MWD for any reasonable time. The only downside of it is that you can't realy use cruiser guns (not enough PG), but you would not realy want to because they do not track fast enough at that speed anyway. So frigate guns that is. I do not remember details, search for my post on "Screaming Stabber", I did post it once there. Admiral, that rupture setup seems pretty good. Can you take a battleship with it?
RabbidFerret	Posted - 2004.10.05 00:29:00 - [235] bump, keep it up guys.
RabbidFerret	Posted - 2004.10.05 00:29:00 - [236] bump, keep it up guys.
Imhotep Khem	Posted - 2004.10.12 01:00:00 - [237] Since i been flying my blasterrax for a while i grown to like it. I couldnt do the lvl 3 in my rupture, but i could in my rax. Any tips for lvl 3 rupture mission loadout? Also, i just realized one advantage of projectile is they have ammo to meet every resistance type. blasters only fire basically kinetic and thermal damage... So thats one advantage probably required with projectiles, use the correct ammo. ____ If your not dyin' your not tryin'.
Imhotep Khem	Posted - 2004.10.12 01:00:00 - [238] Since i been flying my blasterrax for a while i grown to like it. I couldnt do the lvl 3 in my rupture, but i could in my rax. Any tips for lvl 3 rupture mission loadout? Also, i just realized one advantage of projectile is they have ammo to meet every resistance type. blasters only fire basically kinetic and thermal damage... So thats one advantage probably required with projectiles, use the correct ammo. ____ If your not dyin' your not tryin'.
Kaylona Tso	Posted - 2004.10.12 06:32:00 - [239] Originally by: Imhotep Khem Since i been flying my blasterrax for a while i grown to like it. I couldnt do the lvl 3 in my rupture, but i could in my rax. Any tips for lvl 3 rupture mission loadout? Also, i just realized one advantage of projectile is they have ammo to meet every resistance type. blasters only fire basically kinetic and thermal damage... So thats one advantage probably required with projectiles, use the correct ammo. The best setup I have seen on ruptures, and since I been flying them over a year I seen em all, is this in any situation : 4 Medium Particle Beams ( small named beams ) 1 malkuth heavy, 1 rocket /w defenders 1 Web, 1 t2 Medium Shield booster, 1 Large Shield Extender 4 named PDUs, 1 extruded heatsink 12 small drones -----
Kaylona Tso	Posted - 2004.10.12 06:32:00 - [240] Originally by: Imhotep Khem Since i been flying my blasterrax for a while i grown to like it. I couldnt do the lvl 3 in my rupture, but i could in my rax. Any tips for lvl 3 rupture mission loadout? Also, i just realized one advantage of projectile is they have ammo to meet every resistance type. blasters only fire basically kinetic and thermal damage... So thats one advantage probably required with projectiles, use the correct ammo. The best setup I have seen on ruptures, and since I been flying them over a year I seen em all, is this in any situation : 4 Medium Particle Beams ( small named beams ) 1 malkuth heavy, 1 rocket /w defenders 1 Web, 1 t2 Medium Shield booster, 1 Large Shield Extender 4 named PDUs, 1 extruded heatsink 12 small drones -----

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