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Crunchmeister
THORN Syndicate THORN Alliance
293
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Posted - 2012.05.22 17:02:00 -
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D'Kelle wrote:The Icon which is used to depict the "Nemesis" ship when held in a POS Corp hanger still displays the old Graphic not the newly designed ship image. As locked into this WH for the next day or three I cannot verify if this occurs the same in a normal station. Some one else who is not based in Wspace may be able to add/update this comment.
Confirmed. Same here in station.
I know the voices in my head aren't real, but they have some really great ideas sometimes. |
Angeliq
Soimii Patriei Nulli Tertius
96
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Posted - 2012.05.22 17:02:00 -
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Dinta Zembo wrote:Callidus Dux wrote:CCP Punkturis wrote: We're all on team Super Friends, responsible for new modules, War Dec system, War Reports, and Kill Reports
Can you than bring a responsible person AS SOON AS POSSIBLE into this thread? Or were the responsibles hiding from the negative feedback, because they know they have wasted development time for EVE? Beat me to it.
This ^^ Velator vs Tornado https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=62323 Velator vs Oracle https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=109741 |
Zleon Leigh
120
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Posted - 2012.05.22 17:03:00 -
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CCP Punkturis wrote:[quote=Angeliq] and Kill Reports
Just saw a chat linked KM (some silly need to change the name??) - nicely done!!!
Now - do everyone a favor at CCP and go find out where the inventory devs are hiding.. maybe they can post some hint(s) on how to use this horrid inventory system in some sane manner.... cause after dealing with in station and POS work - it stinks.
Incarna - Newest business example of mismanaged capital.
CCP - Continuing to gank independent PI producers every day |
Ayame Tao
23
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Posted - 2012.05.22 17:04:00 -
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I can't drag and drop items from cargo to floating containers if they're nested in the same window.
e.g.
- pop out a jet-can in space
- click on it to open it
- swear loudly that it steals focus and has replaced your cargo hold
- re-open cargo hold
- swear loudly that it has closed the previously open container
- shift-click cargo hold - move and resize window
- shift-click container - drag window onto title bar of cargo hold, dock as a nested window... cool
- drag item from cargo to container name tab in nested window... nothing.
- swear loudly
- undock nested window to a seperate window
- drag item from hold window to container window
- success!
- buy 70 inch monitor to accomodate amount of shift clicked indivdual windows required
Jet-can mining, in-space resupply and POS operations are seriously annoying with this window behaviour.
:( |
Vokanic
Nemitronix Inc
9
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Posted - 2012.05.22 17:04:00 -
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oh god dont make me hold the shift key to open new windows CCP.. how could you??? *throws hissy fit on the floor*
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Callidus Dux
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
161
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Posted - 2012.05.22 17:05:00 -
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Hannott Thanos wrote:Shade Alidiana wrote:Callidus Dux wrote:REALLY CCP! Answer to our issues. Do not troll your customer. Your new shiny UI is crap; Sh!t and all other bad words. Say something to that! Agree. I dislike being ignored, as well as all others. Sh!t and other bad words do nothing. Is it **** because you now have filters? Is it **** because it loads quicker? What is **** about it, and what would be better? I mean THIS |
Mentet
ShortAttentionSpan
11
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Posted - 2012.05.22 17:06:00 -
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Team Super Friends need to be split up like the bunch of naughty school kids they are. I'm assuming you got your kids to design the unified inventory on 'bring your child to work day'
When I'm in space I have my cargo hold as a nice small window bottom left of the screen. Now when I undock it's splashed across the screen, so I resize and even then I have the stupid menu taking up half the window. Dock resize, undock, resize. You see how it goes.
8 accounts not being renewed until this is fixed and I have never felt like that before. 10/10 for peeing off your customer base, 0/10 for doing something useful. |
Selissa Shadoe
43
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Posted - 2012.05.22 17:06:00 -
[158] - Quote
Really hating the new inventory thing. Where'd my corp hanger button go?
I have no idea how to move items in/out of my corp hangers
This is fk'd up, CCP.
/time to shoot the Jita monument... now, where's my damn ammo?
Edit: realized the drag between sections 'kinda' works. it's awkward though because sometimes the tree collapses :/ |
Andreus Ixiris
Mixed Metaphor Federal Consensus Outreach
926
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Posted - 2012.05.22 17:07:00 -
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Can CCP please give some indication of its current stance on storyline? Given that factional warfare has finally gotten an upgrade, it seems like it's time for CCP to start bringing back regular news articles, chronicles and updates on the universe. There's no real point in factional warfare if we don't know what consequences it's having on the world around us.
When are we going to see a return of the storyline, CCP? Mane 614
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pipin meh
NED-Clan
2
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Posted - 2012.05.22 17:08:00 -
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:getout: with this herp derp fail inventory... you got nothing better to do? |
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Daedalus II
The Oasis Group Combat Mining and Logistics
125
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Posted - 2012.05.22 17:08:00 -
[161] - Quote
Zleon Leigh wrote: Now - do everyone a favor at CCP and go find out where the inventory devs are hiding.. maybe they can post some hint(s) on how to use this horrid inventory system in some sane manner.... cause after dealing with in station and POS work - it stinks.
Maybe their time is better spent being at work fixing it, than reading a forum where every second reply is the same damn question as no one cares about reading the previous answers of that very question that has been answered several times already. |
Zleon Leigh
120
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Posted - 2012.05.22 17:08:00 -
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Mentet wrote:Team Super Friends need to be split up like the bunch of naughty school kids they are. I'm assuming you got your kids to design the unified inventory on 'bring your child to work day'
When I'm in space I have my cargo hold as a nice small window bottom left of the screen. Now when I undock it's splashed across the screen, so I resize and even then I have the stupid menu taking up half the window. Dock resize, undock, resize. You see how it goes.
8 accounts not being renewed until this is fixed and I have never felt like that before. 10/10 for peeing off your customer base, 0/10 for doing something useful.
Read her post again... Team Super Friends disavows all knowledge of the inventory system. lol
Incarna - Newest business example of mismanaged capital.
CCP - Continuing to gank independent PI producers every day |
Kamuria
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
11
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Posted - 2012.05.22 17:09:00 -
[163] - Quote
Since you made some major changes to the datacores, it would only be fair to give the chance to those who invested time in those skills to refund their skills. When you decide to train datacore skills + grinding the standings, you base that decision on the paramters set by CCP, those parameters are changed, so you should give us a chance to change our mind based on the new conditions. |
Knowledgeminer
Oriens Vis
1
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Posted - 2012.05.22 17:10:00 -
[164] - Quote
The new inventory system sucks... BIG time... in so many ways I can't be bothered to enumerate them all (thanks to those that have tried)... the biggest deal breaker for me is looting wrecks, which works horribly now... and that stupid window opening and closing on its own every time I dock/undock or jump system is... well, I would laugh if it wasn't so pathetic and annoying...
Shame on you CCP for thinking it's ok to release this kind of crap upon us and (maybe) fix it later... I'm not sure what to do about it yet, but you may have lost a customer here, playing EVE has suddenly become an annoyance instead of something interesting and fun...
Have fun those of you that like the new inventory system. I'm happy for you and really hope the reason you like it is not because you haven't had to use it much yet...
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P0SY
NED-Clan Goonswarm Federation
6
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Posted - 2012.05.22 17:10:00 -
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i'm glad you've changed the inventory.......... witch nobody asked you to do..........OH WAIT IT FAILS!!!!!!!!!!!!!
atleast make yourselfs usefull and make an option to return it back to the way it was....... |
miss hotplate
Eat more Cake Experimental Rage
0
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Posted - 2012.05.22 17:11:00 -
[166] - Quote
P0SY wrote:i'm glad you've changed the inventory.......... witch nobody asked you to do..........OH WAIT IT FAILS!!!!!!!!!!!!!
atleast make yourselfs usefull and make an option to return it back to the way it was.......
^^^^^what he said |
Kile Kitmoore
16
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Posted - 2012.05.22 17:13:00 -
[167] - Quote
The new Inventory window should have been your new Asset Manager window! |
Urgg Boolean
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
63
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Posted - 2012.05.22 17:15:00 -
[168] - Quote
Ayame Tao wrote:I can't drag and drop items from cargo to floating containers if they're nested in the same window. e.g.
- pop out a jet-can in space
- click on it to open it
- swear loudly that it steals focus and has replaced your cargo hold
- re-open cargo hold
- swear loudly that it has closed the previously open container
- shift-click cargo hold - move and resize window
- shift-click container - drag window onto title bar of cargo hold, dock as a nested window... cool
- drag item from cargo to container name tab in nested window... nothing.
- swear loudly
- undock nested window to a seperate window
- drag item from hold window to container window
- success!
- buy 70 inch monitor to accomodate amount of shift clicked indivdual windows required
Jet-can mining, in-space resupply and POS operations are seriously annoying with this window behaviour. :( Not to mention salvaging or anytime you have to open an array of windows.
If there is some secret ways to use this new system that are highly efficient, I'd sure like to know about them. But nobody from the UI team is in here posting with any insights. |
Vokanic
Nemitronix Inc
9
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Posted - 2012.05.22 17:16:00 -
[169] - Quote
Selissa Shadoe wrote:Really hating the new inventory thing. Where'd my corp hanger button go? I have no idea how to move items in/out of my corp hangers This is fk'd up, CCP. /time to shoot the Jita monument... now, where's my damn ammo? Edit: realized the drag between sections 'kinda' works. it's awkward though because sometimes the tree collapses :/
Click, Drag and Hover over them, it will expand after one second. |
MaverickScot
Point of No Return Waterboard
4
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Posted - 2012.05.22 17:17:00 -
[170] - Quote
Kile Kitmoore wrote:The new Inventory window should have been your new Asset Manager window!
THIS |
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Selissa Shadoe
45
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Posted - 2012.05.22 17:17:00 -
[171] - Quote
Seconded, would like return to previous system. At least make this mess optional for the Mac users that designed it.
I did like that containers are shown as trees.. that's nice, and something I was wanting. Unfortunately no actions are possible for an item when it's IN a container (e.g. Manufacturing for Blueprints), and the tree view is not shown under the 'Corporation->Assets' view. So close and yet so far..
The General Settings->'Merge Items and Ships into Station Panel' is a really helpful semi-workaround at present, thanks to who suggested that. |
Urgg Boolean
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
63
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Posted - 2012.05.22 17:18:00 -
[172] - Quote
Kamuria wrote:Since you made some major changes to the datacores, it would only be fair to give the chance to those who invested time in those skills to refund their skills. When you decide to train datacore skills + grinding the standings, you base that decision on the parameters set by CCP. Those parameters are changed, so you should give us a chance to change our mind based on the new conditions. ^^^ I'll second that.
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Mentet
ShortAttentionSpan
11
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Posted - 2012.05.22 17:20:00 -
[173] - Quote
Urgg Boolean wrote:Ayame Tao wrote:I can't drag and drop items from cargo to floating containers if they're nested in the same window. e.g.
- pop out a jet-can in space
- click on it to open it
- swear loudly that it steals focus and has replaced your cargo hold
- re-open cargo hold
- swear loudly that it has closed the previously open container
- shift-click cargo hold - move and resize window
- shift-click container - drag window onto title bar of cargo hold, dock as a nested window... cool
- drag item from cargo to container name tab in nested window... nothing.
- swear loudly
- undock nested window to a seperate window
- drag item from hold window to container window
- success!
- buy 70 inch monitor to accomodate amount of shift clicked indivdual windows required
Jet-can mining, in-space resupply and POS operations are seriously annoying with this window behaviour. :( Not to mention salvaging or anytime you have to open an array of windows. If there is some secret ways to use this new system that are highly efficient, I'd sure like to know about them. But nobody from the UI team is in here posting with any insights.
If that isn't bad enough I just foolish undocked an Orca, used to be I had a small window for hold/corp hangers/ore hold/ship bay now I have to look at each 1 at a time. Clearly CCP thought that too much of an eye strain.
Give me my old inventory system back ....................................................................................................................................... |
Angeliq
Soimii Patriei Nulli Tertius
96
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Posted - 2012.05.22 17:20:00 -
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Kamuria wrote:Since you made some major changes to the datacores, it would only be fair to give the chance to those who invested time in those skills to refund their skills. When you decide to train datacore skills + grinding the standings, you base that decision on the parameters set by CCP. Those parameters are changed, so you should give us a chance to change our mind based on the new conditions. THIS! Velator vs Tornado https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=62323 Velator vs Oracle https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=109741 |
Vokanic
Nemitronix Inc
9
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Posted - 2012.05.22 17:22:00 -
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Mentet wrote:
If that isn't bad enough I just foolish undocked an Orca, used to be I had a small window for hold/corp hangers/ore hold/ship bay now I have to look at each 1 at a time. Clearly CCP thought that too much of an eye strain.
Give me my old inventory system back .......................................................................................................................................
Shift click the things you want in their own window. What's so bloody hard about that?
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Dinta Zembo
Snuff Box
37
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Posted - 2012.05.22 17:22:00 -
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Selissa Shadoe wrote:The General Settings->'Merge Items and Ships into Station Panel' is a really helpful semi-workaround at present, thanks to who suggested that.
Hey thanks, I didn't know of that one. |
Messoroz
AQUILA INC Verge of Collapse
220
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Posted - 2012.05.22 17:23:00 -
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Angeliq wrote:Kamuria wrote:Since you made some major changes to the datacores, it would only be fair to give the chance to those who invested time in those skills to refund their skills. When you decide to train datacore skills + grinding the standings, you base that decision on the parameters set by CCP. Those parameters are changed, so you should give us a chance to change our mind based on the new conditions. THIS!
Welcome to the sandbox, nothing is guaranteed. Should CCP have refunded everyone's tech 1 frigate skills when they redid all their attributes with the patch?
On another note, the ability to rename corp hangers and SMAs is desperately needed. The new inventory window shows them all as the same name. Support for naming the pos mods appears to exist(right click > Set Name) appears but it just gives an "Unable to name this kind of pos mods" error. |
Zleon Leigh
120
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Posted - 2012.05.22 17:23:00 -
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When you leave a POS the silo inventory windows default to cargo bay window - instead of auto-closing as before. Are rat wreck cans acting the same way???
Incarna - Newest business example of mismanaged capital.
CCP - Continuing to gank independent PI producers every day |
Sarina Berghil
Adhocracy Incorporated Adhocracy
33
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Posted - 2012.05.22 17:25:00 -
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Vokanic wrote: Shift click the things you want in their own window. What's so bloody hard about that?
Shift-Click is also used to select multiple items, that makes the shortcut somewhat inconvenient. |
Bob Bedala
3
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Posted - 2012.05.22 17:26:00 -
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The Unified Inventory system has a bunch of nice features when managing all your goodies.
Unfortunately that is only one use-case of inventory windows as others have pointed out
I note that generally "universal" interaction design solutions are very hard to do well when dealing with many disparate use-cases. Such as the many things players do with inventory;
- different sizing & positioning of ship cargo windows for types of op (combat/hauler/salvager/miner)
- different sizing & positioning inventory windows for loot vs cargo
- PoS management
- ... and more
And IMO it's a no-brainer these settings need to be remembered on a ship-by-ship basis, as i believe they were, and that they should be preserved on re-docking.
In summary while it's nice for the one use-case of managing all your stuff, IMO it fails at the myriad of other use-cases that are more time-sensitive due to the pilot being floating around in space at the time.
I don't miss the EVE UI from 2 years ago and the bucket of eyestrain that went with it, but in terms of interaction design & usability i feel CCP continue to make retrograde steps. And this makes bob sad
PS What happened to the promise of being able to align the neocom (which still makes me curse every time i run a mission) to the bottom or top of the screen? |
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