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Selissa Shadoe 45	Posted - 2012.05.22 17:28:00 - [181] - Quote Elvin Gizza wrote: Sorry CCP, the new inventory thing is horrible, why cant it be optional? Also i love all the new modules and ****, but where are they? Have they been seeded? Again, why make it so difficult for us? Because although you like to think that we play the game, actually CCP likes to play the game with us to see how we respond. Rats in a maze... /In Soviet Russia, Game plays you! .. (to revive a 10yr old meme.. lol)
Urgg Boolean Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation 63	Posted - 2012.05.22 17:29:00 - [182] - Quote Vokanic wrote: Mentet wrote: If that isn't bad enough I just foolish undocked an Orca, used to be I had a small window for hold/corp hangers/ore hold/ship bay now I have to look at each 1 at a time. Clearly CCP thought that too much of an eye strain. Give me my old inventory system back ....................................................................................................................................... Shift click the things you want in their own window. What's so bloody hard about that? please correct me if I'm wrong, but you have to ALWAYS start wit the main tree window and shift-click from there to open cargo, drones, etc. This represents a lot of extra clicking and time to do what used to be a single click on the cargo icon. I'm still waiting for grand insights in how to use this new UI efficiently. So far, it is proving to be very inefficient.
Lina Fayette Licorne ChemoTech 0	Posted - 2012.05.22 17:29:00 - [183] - Quote Nikuno wrote: Then why does my cargo close every time I do this? This does not help during a fight !! I had the opposite problem earlier: the inventory window kept reopening every time I docked, undocked, used a system gate or pretty much sneezed.
Selissa Shadoe 45	Posted - 2012.05.22 17:31:00 - [184] - Quote Vokanic wrote: Mentet wrote: If that isn't bad enough I just foolish undocked an Orca, used to be I had a small window for hold/corp hangers/ore hold/ship bay now I have to look at each 1 at a time. Clearly CCP thought that too much of an eye strain. Give me my old inventory system back ....................................................................................................................................... Shift click the things you want in their own window. What's so bloody hard about that? And where was this explained in the 'new intuitive UI'? Oh wait, it's not intuitive at all!
Hannott Thanos Notorious Legion 52	Posted - 2012.05.22 17:32:00 - [185] - Quote I might just have missed it before, but was there always the orange color-scheme on the T2 railguns?
Luna Steel INGRUO 1	Posted - 2012.05.22 17:34:00 - [186] - Quote Callidus Dux wrote: The UI is horrible sh!t. I want two or many more seperate windows (WHITHOUT any shift or something crap) to move items from the hangar into my ship. It was possible to stack all windows into one before this UI crap. But no one did this. Now you force all people to live with this crap. Please roll back the UI or make it optional. It is not user friendly. Especially the Inventory I want into SEVERAL independent windows to be able to drag and drop things around. I hate the idea to use the shift key every time to open a own window. Please people, before complaining read the patch notes (shift+click opens multiple windows as you said and thats fine for the 1st day after patch) Dont make the new UI completely bad, because it is not! BUT it needs to be improved - and that is what your posts need to be about... Dont complain, but make helpfull suggestions e.g.: "I would like to have a function to toggle the opening of separate windows without a shift-click" Thx, best regards Luna
Angeliq Soimii Patriei Nulli Tertius 99	Posted - 2012.05.22 17:34:00 - [187] - Quote Messoroz wrote: Angeliq wrote: Kamuria wrote: Since you made some major changes to the datacores, it would only be fair to give the chance to those who invested time in those skills to refund their skills. When you decide to train datacore skills + grinding the standings, you base that decision on the parameters set by CCP. Those parameters are changed, so you should give us a chance to change our mind based on the new conditions. THIS! Welcome to the sandbox, nothing is guaranteed. Should CCP have refunded everyone's tech 1 frigate skills when they redid all their attributes with the patch? On another note, the ability to rename corp hangers and SMAs is desperately needed. The new inventory window shows them all as the same name. Support for naming the pos mods appears to exist(right click > Set Name) appears but it just gives an "Unable to name this kind of pos mods" error. So spending a HUGE amount of time training A LOT of skills and farming standings with MANY NPC corps so you can get datacores should not be compensated by reimbursing skill points if you no longer have use for those skillpoints in that area of activity cos CCP decided to change it? When I started training skills for said activity, it was meant by CCP to be that way, it was not a questionable activity or game mechanic. Velator vs Tornado https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=62323 Velator vs Oracle https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=109741
Bayushi Akemi Hisec Sentai Coalition. 5	Posted - 2012.05.22 17:36:00 - [188] - Quote Quick rundown on new stuff: Good stuff - Missile launchers - Stealth bombers (Nemesis is best, but it really should be more green) Unfortunately, these things will be horrendously overshadowed by the new and improved inventory UI. I'm honestly not sure who it's meant to benefit. - People who use poses have to try to figure out which hangar is which and hope the things they're moving go in the right tab. There is very little reason to pre-load all the tabs, it takes far too long - Miners with orcas have to fiddle and reset their windows every time the orca warps off to unload - Mission runners have to use the index to loot anything, unless they feel like holding shift down indefinitely, looting wrecks when salvaging is a major headache - Active ship shouldn't be disappearing from hangar I have limited screen space on my manufacturing character. The windows are far too large and have disrupted my ui setup on my characters because I need to use the tree sometimes unless I feel like breaking my shift key. It's a lot faster to have multiple windows open so I can just drag things from one window to the next, having to look for the place I'm trying to put it is outright annoying and cumbersome. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=109826&find=unread-áHelp us purge the game of the goon scum!
Hannott Thanos Notorious Legion 53	Posted - 2012.05.22 17:38:00 - [189] - Quote I would like a new warning that said "Computer says no" if i try to fit something and don't have enough CPU
profundus fossura Caldari Provisions Caldari State 4	Posted - 2012.05.22 17:38:00 - [190] - Quote Just tried out the new inventory system after reading some of the feedback in thread I was prepared for the worst, particularly as I have spent years working with the old system and got kinda used to it I am a manufacturer and inventor so I have tons of cans with blueprints/materials salvage with probably 2000+ items (not a lot but had a major clear out recently ) but I immediately found sorting through it all and finding what I need far easier than with the old system and used a lot less screen space to do it. Also found it completely intuitive. Great work CCP how did I survive without this. The value calculator even if not completely accurate gives me a clear indication of what the contents of any one can is worth which kinda useful. Haven't tried the pos or capital/orca hangers yet but as far as the station hanger goes the new inventory is the mutts nuts.

Sid Hudgens Totally not an NPC Corp 103	Posted - 2012.05.22 17:39:00 - [191] - Quote Everything looks great so far. Inventory is great, don't listen to whiny ingrates. Keep up the good work. "....as if 10,058 Goon voices cried out and were suddenly silenced."
dgastuffz 8	Posted - 2012.05.22 17:40:00 - [192] - Quote whats that invetory **** its pur crap
Dinta Zembo Snuff Box 38	Posted - 2012.05.22 17:41:00 - [193] - Quote So now that I saw this 'merge ships and items into station services' thing, here are the only two things you have to do since you already have the checkbox... 1) make it possible to drag items and ships out of station services 2) when clicking a container/cargo hold/drone bay, make the old windows pop up instead of the unified one ??? PROFIT! edit: my bad, that only fixes in-station.
CARB0N FIBER Derailleurs 4	Posted - 2012.05.22 17:43:00 - [194] - Quote Change it back! IBFL
Sluht Hunter ProtoStar Trading United Abominations 0	Posted - 2012.05.22 17:43:00 - [195] - Quote Ok the new inventory sux. Salvaging is now a nightmare. sorting your things and moving them from location to location is a full time job. And mining is now very nu-enjoyable. please give us the option to roll back to the old system for those that want it.. and keep the option of the new inventory for those that like it. ____________ Not liking the new seed options for the new mods either. Really you only npc seed one of the new mods blueprints. If you truly want the game items to be all player produced then give us the tools to do it by seeding the other bpo's. _____ got to give good with the bad. Love the new missile effects good job.
Asmodes Reynolds Rayn Enterprises 33	Posted - 2012.05.22 17:43:00 - [196] - Quote Selissa Shadoe wrote: Elvin Gizza wrote: Sorry CCP, the new inventory thing is horrible, why cant it be optional? Also i love all the new modules and ****, but where are they? Have they been seeded? Again, why make it so difficult for us? Because although you like to think that we play the game, actually CCP likes to play the game with us to see how we respond. Rats in a maze... /In Soviet Russia, Game plays you! .. (to revive a 10yr old meme.. lol) I'm going to modernize this.. /in Iceland, CCP plays you.. it doesn't have the same ring but it's more fitting
kassie kelmar Suzaku Enterprises Banji wa Yume 4	Posted - 2012.05.22 17:44:00 - [197] - Quote I too am an inventor/small manufacturer and i find the new inventory system to be codswallop. Windows dont remember if they are open or closed, the index window opens with every jump through a gate, moving stuff around a list of corp hangars while at a pos is a complete pain, system is slow to load things etc etc etc. Can we please have the option of going back to the old system? It was so much more utilitarian when you were used to it. High sec pos holders, you may want to check your charter amounts in the pos fuel bays after the patch.
Tippia Sunshine and Lollipops 7026	Posted - 2012.05.22 17:48:00 - [198] - Quote Vokanic wrote: [Shift click the things you want in their own window. What's so bloody hard about that? Nothing. The problem is that it doesn't actually solve anything. It's a pointless hack to provide the illusion of a half-solution to a problem that shouldn't have existed to begin with. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥ Shift-click does nothing GÇö why the Unified Inventory isn't ready for primetime.
Crunchmeister THORN Syndicate THORN Alliance 293	Posted - 2012.05.22 17:51:00 - [199] - Quote I'm kind of pissed at the change to datacores. Not so much for the skill investment in the datacore skills, as my toons that collect them are inventors and need those skills anyway. But i'm more pissed about the time it took me to grind standings with toons that until that point had no combat skills and none planned for them. I've wasted a ton of precious time on standings I don't need, plus now have a bunch of useless pve combat skills on those toons that will never be used again. That training time could have gone into more relevant industrial skills instead. And now, anyone in FW can start cashing in on the datacore train without any skill investment or faction standings grinding required while the people that worked hard to be able to get them in the first place are being penalized. I think that's rather unfair. At least make it so that FW people need the proper skills in order to get datacores. That would at least level the playing field somewhat and make it less of a kick in the nuts to industrialist. I know the voices in my head aren't real, but they have some really great ideas sometimes.
Nelly McKay Deliverers of Pain Ewoks 0	Posted - 2012.05.22 17:53:00 - [200] - Quote The wallet doesn't update correctly. Sometimes when you directly sell stuff it goes up and instantly down again. Only after you sold another item (or did something else affecting your wallet) it's showing the correct number again. Minor bug, but slightly annoying and can confuse the hell out of you. (It just happened to me, thought EVE ate 500 mil because the wallet didn't show the correct number)

Luke Eskar Ride To Ruin 1	Posted - 2012.05.22 17:53:00 - [201] - Quote the new inventory sucks big time
Seismic Stan 77	Posted - 2012.05.22 17:55:00 - [202] - Quote Loving the new launchers and the missile effects. The spiralling rocket salvoes are my favourite visually, but I'm also a big fan of the launch "shriek" of the standard missiles. I'm irritated by the Unified Inventory. It is a barrier to my chosen style of play and I find it laborious and unintuitive. I have mixed feelings about the Inferno Trailer; it was the usual high-quality, slick affair visually, but given the Faction Warfare theme to Inferno, theres no mention of factions whatsoever. The narration was functional, generic ultra-male video-game waffle that would be just at home overlaid onto a Call of Duty or Halo video. It was technically good, but I'd have like to have seen something less like the bullet-point Crucible trailer and more like the sublime and cinematic Fanfest one. I feel the failure to leverage EVE Online's colourful faction backstory is a big marketing fumble. Briefly glimpsed footnote aside, does Faction Warfare's notable absence from the marketing reveal a lack of faith in the FW mechanic or an increasing cultural distance from EVE's lore? Freebooted - Tech4 News - Incarna: The Text Adventure - Guild Launch EVE Correspondent
Talon SilverHawk Patria o Muerte 120	Posted - 2012.05.22 17:55:00 - [203] - Quote Old inventory system back, or give us the choice to have multiple windows as per the feedback you totally ignored before. Tal
Celeste Nightsong School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State 1	Posted - 2012.05.22 17:55:00 - [204] - Quote I honestly don't know why people hate the new inventory so much. I quite like it. Simplifies things down to one window. Sure... it will take some time to relearn it, but for the love of God, spend some time learning how to use it. Don't spend five bloody minutes, conclude you hate it, and then *** at CCP for screwing it up. Just try this: Go 24 to 48 hours with the new inventory. If you still hate it then, then come on the forums and yell at CCP to do something about it. Celeste Nightsong** "When life gives you lemons, shoot them back at life at high velocity."
Ayame Tao 26	Posted - 2012.05.22 17:56:00 - [205] - Quote Right click on a stack of Ore filed away in a Station Container... "Move to hanger and refine" Ooooh... WIN! Can we please have a "Move to hanger and reprocess" in the module right click menu? Thanks.
ilove pos Mechanics Rayn Enterprises Test Alliance Please Ignore 3	Posted - 2012.05.22 17:57:00 - [206] - Quote okay I'm tired of this I've just made a fresh character with no like history, let's make this really simple for CCP and the developers, If you hate the new inventory system and think it should be optional or removed like this post. I will be posting the same thing in the issue thread . let's see how long it takes for this character to get 2000 Likes ... that should make our point painfully clear. If CCP even cares. edit: I'm doing this this way because there doesn't seem to be any voting system for the forms
Justine Valentine Unknown Unnamed Corp 5	Posted - 2012.05.22 17:58:00 - [207] - Quote Personally I am veeery happy of unified inventory :) Now I can finally control my assets the way I wan't without any problems, everything in one window, very intuitive vertical menu. I hate tons of windows opened, so this is for me :) Very intuitive and helps with organization. I hate mess :) huge + rep for new inventory! Great job. But option to switch the inventory type would be good, considering that some ppl won't adapt to new one and they want hundreads of windows opened. Although I also can't understand why some ppl hate new inventory, probably they are one of those "I am stuck in xxxx year and won't adapt or go with time" or smth. Keep the good job CCP, I wish for new players you are gonan get soon :) Switch all those "I hate everything new!" with new ones :)
Tippia Sunshine and Lollipops 7031	Posted - 2012.05.22 17:59:00 - [208] - Quote Celeste Nightsong wrote: I honestly don't know why people hate the new inventory so much. I quite like it. Simplifies things down to one window. GÇªand that's the whole problem. Some tasks are not simplified by having one window GÇö they are actually made far harder and far less efficient. This is not a GÇ£relearnGÇ¥ or GÇ£be used toGÇ¥ thing, but something that is objectively much more laborious. By the way, the old system already supported using one window, so there's actually nothing new going on there. You could fairly closely replicate the new system in the old one; you can't replicate the old system in the new one. That alone tells you that the new system is having functionality issues. Quote: Just try this: Go 24 to 48 hours with the new inventory. I've gone for several weeks with the new inventory. At every turn, it shows more and more problems. Those 24-48 hours happened long before I wrote the post in my sig, and it remains just as true today as it did then. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥ Shift-click does nothing GÇö why the Unified Inventory isn't ready for primetime.
Pak Narhoo Knights of Kador 481	Posted - 2012.05.22 18:00:00 - [209] - Quote Tippia wrote: Vokanic wrote: [Shift click the things you want in their own window. What's so bloody hard about that? Nothing. The problem is that it doesn't actually solve anything. It's a pointless hack to provide the illusion of a half-solution to a problem that shouldn't have existed to begin with. I hate to agree with you on this but indeed the shift-click feels like it was thrown in to compensate for the removal of actual functionality. Once again we get something half finished from CCP and the dev's responsible for this can no-where to be found. One thing that would help (a bit) would be if you dragged stuff to the hangar bay it (the hangar bay) would be able to see the difference between stuff and ships. Put stuff in items and ships in the ships folder. Also that the new inventory cannot see packed ships is Like, what? Lol. Who approved of this? Just imagine you had this system on your Mac or even PC. You would be foaming at the mouth. You need to be able to work with it. Not fight with it. Who needs television when you have EVE? EVE drama, best drama.
Talon SilverHawk Patria o Muerte 120	Posted - 2012.05.22 18:01:00 - [210] - Quote While shooting the Jita monument, suddenly the missile graphics have disappeared. Still see damage but no missiles or animation. Actually had to log as ship stopped responding to any commands and carried on orbiting the monument. Tal



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