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Kel Arkir
Biotronics Inc. Majesta Empire
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Posted - 2009.11.12 20:03:00 -
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Edited by: Kel Arkir on 12/11/2009 20:03:42 Edited by: Kel Arkir on 12/11/2009 20:03:18 Just thinking about it, an idea formed in my mind to strip our motherships from fitting and commit ritual suicide to get atleast some isk back sunk into those useless pieces of scrapmetal.
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Adam Ridgway
Minmatar
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Posted - 2009.11.12 20:03:00 -
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GENIOUS, IT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY.
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Chagaline
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Posted - 2009.11.12 20:04:00 -
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change this **** back to the original planned changes, everythig else is frakin bull!!
no way in hell you can justify a silly 10 bill loss like that, not all mom pilots are rich fawks=(
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Domoso
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Posted - 2009.11.12 20:04:00 -
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Quote: Damps got nerfed, Drones got nerfed, Nos got nerfed, speed got nerfed, cyno effect removed, ecm got nerfed, missles nerfed, scanner button nerfed, whats next ccp?
Looks like CCP's in it to nerf their player base.
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Sarah Norbulk
Dawn of a new Empire The Initiative.
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Posted - 2009.11.12 20:04:00 -
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Originally by: Shigsy Delete posts quicker, thread is still growing 

More posts to point out the stupidity of CCP nerfing what isn't broken.
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Obsidian Hawk
Aliastra
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Posted - 2009.11.12 20:05:00 -
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This is a petition to make sure these changes dont happen.
Sign the petition! Everyone call out to your corps, call out your friends, hell call ginger magician if you think it will help. the 50 page csm petition got our directional scanners to 1.3 seconds, why cant we at least get 2.5 drones per level!
ok that was a joke but still. Sign the petition.
EVE HAS SPOKEN!
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casai
Caldari North Eastern Swat
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Posted - 2009.11.12 20:05:00 -
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Oh yer btw titans and there siege turrets with Target painter drones can one shot a fighter bomber soo u can loose all your fb in like 60 sec
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Ryan Powers
Caldari Di-Tron Heavy Industries Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2009.11.12 20:06:00 -
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Originally by: Dramaticus
Originally by: Mr Bright is it just me or is everyone agreeing with each other for once?:D
we've pretty much all been agreeing with each other since the Dominion dev post last Friday. when IT Alliance dudes are empty quoting Atlas dudes who are empty quoting AAA dudes who are agreeing with The Mittani, something is seriously wrong and its not us.
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Qwertzl
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Posted - 2009.11.12 20:06:00 -
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CCP, this makes absolutely no sence at all.
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Jaron Terrkin
Biotronics Inc. Majesta Empire
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Posted - 2009.11.12 20:06:00 -
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CCP can t be serious in that nerf...I belive it s a joke IT HAS TO BE A JOKE AAAAAAAAAAAAHHH
AHHHH
DON T DO THAT CCP -.-''
I promise i will cry....
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Tappits
Priory Of The Lemon Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2009.11.12 20:11:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Navigator Hello everyone,
Before you all start getting on Stevie's back over her post let me just clarify that you are well within your rights to use this thread to post constructive feedback. Posting flaming or trolling comments is not in keeping with the forum rules and any such posts may result in a warning or ban.
No one is saying not to express your opinion or provide feedback, but please do it within the rules of this forum. Please also note that Community do not make game design decisions and nor will we comment on them.
Thank you.
OMG What a fail post, Heres my feedback, if these changes go live -4 accounts after 2 fanfests and תתתת's invested in skills and time am am sick of the BS Sort your crap out and stop been total fail.
P.S this years Fan fest was crap BTW
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darius mclever
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Posted - 2009.11.12 20:12:00 -
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Thank you CCP. I finally know what to do with the money I am saving for the Aeon. Faction ship market here i come.
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Sarah Norbulk
Dawn of a new Empire The Initiative.
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Posted - 2009.11.12 20:12:00 -
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It's been 9 pages and no Dev has come back to say why Moms got nerfed. I wonder if that's because they just don't have one, except maybe to pad their wallets.
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Graalum
Di-Tron Heavy Industries Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2009.11.12 20:13:00 -
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i was stockpiling mins to build a supercarrier, and was getting pretty close on the highends and midends. Now i am pretty close to having the minerals to build the future ones, but i'm really not interested.
thanks anyways ccp, keep up the terrible decision making
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Kalter Rouge
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Posted - 2009.11.12 20:13:00 -
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Ohh no. Wasn't the reason for boosting the supercarrier to get a ship who can counter that mass of capital ships on our field today? Whats the reason for nerfing that (suitable imho) boost?
Sorry for bad english.
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Ranko
Fusion Enterprises Ltd Mostly Harmless
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Posted - 2009.11.12 20:18:00 -
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So, whats the insurance value on the Nyx?
I may be detonating mine right before the patch, if these changes go ahead.
Thanks for making the Moms, even more nerfed then they are now.
10 times the cost of a carrier, for 2 times the bonuses, way to go CCP.
Pathetic, really pathetic CCP, your customers are up in arms about these proposed changes and yet you do not respond to them, answer their questions. Remind me please, how do you as a company stay in business.... ---
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Minmatar citizen4561451
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Posted - 2009.11.12 20:21:00 -
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Originally by: Ranko Remind me please, how do you as a company stay in business....
because no one who threatens to cancel their accounts actually follow through
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Kkhaarn
Black Serpent Technologies R.A.G.E
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Posted - 2009.11.12 20:23:00 -
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I've been fartin' around with moms on SiSi for a few days now. Even damage fit on this maxed out character (Literally, most stuff at 5 on drones, engineering, ect ect) I was unable to "solo" a well tanked dread in siege. If they want an ANTI-CAP role, BUFF THE MOMS don't NERF them. But, as it's being shown by so many of their post deletions, they don't care, they won't care, and all they want is your money, be it isk or RL cash. I've never seen an MMO where the creators ignore critisim and don't even bother take it to heart how many older players they are ****ing off.
TBH this is a worse idea than charging 0.0 alliances both arms, both legs and their left peanut to maintain sov in a system for 30 days.
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Mahke
Aeon Of Strife
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Posted - 2009.11.12 20:23:00 -
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Originally by: Ranko So, whats the insurance value on the Nyx?
I may be detonating mine right before the patch, if these changes go ahead.
That would be dumb: assuming there are enough available mothership alts to absorb the number being sold they should still go for 7-8bil with new prices, and thats a lowball guess.
They will be more worth flying for the (new and lower) isk after patch, and you still have value of minerals, value of bpc (almost 1bil), logistics, difficulty of building without sov4, etc. No sense in self destructing (but go and do it if you want, no one is stopping you).
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Bobbeh
Minmatar Navy of Xoc Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2009.11.12 20:23:00 -
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I think By Dominion they Mean Unity, By in which their Patch will United all of 0.0 in a hate of the new patch....
This Change is not only unnecessary, it completely destroys hundreds of trillions in Invested Assets. Each Mothership/Super Carrier Pilot Just lost 10 Bil for their Ship 6-10 bil for their storage alt, 8-20 bil on their fittings (for a Over Sized meat Shield that had its claws clipped and teeth capped.)
All yall in Highsec that like the changes cause it will make them Much MUCH MUCH more common should really understand what that means. Imagine if they lowered the cost of CNR's to 300mil (though it would never happen just cause of the highsec tears) Or if they Spawned 100 more State Ravens. Rarity is Value, A reduction in Rarity means a reduction in value. Next titans will be 15 bil and all those titan pilots that spent 40-70 getting the ships and years of training will be all for nothing.
I mean do people really forget that a handful of AF's can kill all of a SC/MS pilots FB's in well quick time. Once they die then its fighters (if we have room), those will die quicker, then its drones and well now theres not super threat. With 20, the time to catch a kill all of them was decent enough that if you could maintain reasonable dps even if people were hunting your fb's. By decreasing them to 10, you made it so our Dps is 100% easier to destroy.
If youve ever flown Caps you'd know that when your fighters/fb's start dieing you pull em back thats a huge isk sink to let someone just pop all of them!
If Damage was the worry, Reduce the Fb's Damage output dont Cut the number of drones. 10 ECM drones is nowhere near as effective as 20, 10 Neut drones is nowhere near as effective as 20, and so on, and these arent even damage drones, then you must consider Rep drones, 10 vs 20. The Biggest attraction to the MS/SC was the 20 drones in space at one time. Yes, we all understand the huge hp boost and we thank you for it cause now we dont die the minute the dread gang looks at us. But you originally stated that you wanted the MS/SC to be a dps class ship, and we were all sure you understood the difference between straight dps and drone dps, and how drone dps can be dealt with quickly and leaves a ship defenseless one it has been dealt with.
So what i ask and im sure everyone prolly would agree with is Give MS/SC's back their mas 20 drones/fighters in space, and tone the Fb's Damage down alittle before ganking 10 of our babies right from us. Reason being if at the moment 20 fb's is Over powering, understandable, but 20 fighters isnt OP, 20 Heavies isnt OP, 20 Mediums, smalls, neuts, ecm, rep, tracking,dampening, sentries, webbing drones arent op. But by making all of them 10 you relegate the MS/SC to being a regular carrier with a new fighter that is ok at killing caps but will be targeted by small support, and a nice tank. So Cap Fc's will fly them so they dont do down when target calling starts but more than likely will be dual boxing as to be helpful with a dread alt.
20 Drones/Fighters = Ms/SC it is their Identity, and the reason a majority of people liked them.
Yes the Price change sucks from a personal standpoint but the problem i see comes from the straight deletion of eve Currency, as i said if there are 200 ms pilots in eve (not hard to believe with moms) thats 2 trillion isk in assets that just Disappears over patch day. Now since CCP stated that there were around 250 titans in Eve lets assume the number of MS doubles that. so 500 Now we are looking at 5 trillion isk lost, and thats if the loss is only 10 bil. Seeing as for the longest time they were priced at 18bil and your saying that the cost will be 5-6 that means it would be a loss of 12-13bil per ship, not to mention training time and the alts. At that loss rate it would be 6 tril to 6.5 tril in straight isk removed from the game due to value reduction.
But im Ranting There be my 2 cents
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ArmagedonLT
Amarr Thundercats RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2009.11.12 20:24:00 -
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wow, just f'ing wow.. Finding that moms are getting boosted, buying it and then finding that they're getting nerfed to **** and reduced in price! HELL YEAH, WAY TO GO CCP
Nice mothership! We will nerf it! Not so nice supercarrier! We will nerf it anyway!
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PreD eve
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Posted - 2009.11.12 20:26:00 -
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Edited by: PreD eve on 12/11/2009 20:27:02
I have a dream that one day i'll fly a mothership supercarrier
Now CCP have broken my dream...
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Kkhaarn
Black Serpent Technologies R.A.G.E
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Posted - 2009.11.12 20:28:00 -
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Originally by: Minmatar citizen4561451
Originally by: Ranko Remind me please, how do you as a company stay in business....
because no one who threatens to cancel their accounts actually follow through
Meh, they can consolidate accounts and pay less in the long run, leaving one account on a main account until the day hell freezes over and CCP actually does something right? Just a thought.
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Obsidian Hawk
Aliastra
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Posted - 2009.11.12 20:29:00 -
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A petition signed by everyone in eve works more effectively than everyone QQ'ing.
Let your voices be heard, sign the petition,
Call your corp mates Send out the alliance mails Someone find Dark Shikari!
Please everyone think of chribba, whith this nerf, he wont be able to have his 10 alts with 20 mining drones each mining veldspar for the universe!!
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Rosur
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.11.12 20:31:00 -
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Think CCP should just make supercarriers its own ship type(ship price inbetween dread price and mothership price) which can use Fighter Bombers and cant use fighters. Motherships can use Fighter bombers but they take the place of 2 fighters. Carriers stay the same.

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Minmatar citizen4561451
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Posted - 2009.11.12 20:33:00 -
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Originally by: Sarah Norbulk It's been 9 pages and no Dev has come back to say why Moms got nerfed. I wonder if that's because they just don't have one, except maybe to pad their wallets.
how does nerfing something help pad their wallets? god you're a friggin idiot
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apolloedv
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Posted - 2009.11.12 20:33:00 -
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TIME FOR SELFDESTRUCT THE MoMs
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MacArvid
Gallente M. Corp
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Posted - 2009.11.12 20:34:00 -
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Cheaper moms....well that might be a good idea.....to bad u **** up every mom pilot that allready got one. Its not like its 100 mil or so its about 10 bill per ship.
I do hope that u guys will give existing pilots isk back or maybe il wake up with 2 more moms in my hangar.
I spent over a year gathering isk to get that mom. They i discovered that i didnt get a ship worth 15 bil. So i stored that ship on another account for that day a patch would come so it actully be worth flying it. A month a go it came WOOHOO i will take my mom out. Then u do this **** to me.
PS anyone wants to buy a Nyx...12 bil DS
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Bobbeh
Minmatar Navy of Xoc Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2009.11.12 20:35:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Navigator Hello everyone,
Before you all start getting on Stevie's back over her post let me just clarify that you are well within your rights to use this thread to post constructive feedback. Posting flaming or trolling comments is not in keeping with the forum rules and any such posts may result in a warning or ban.
No one is saying not to express your opinion or provide feedback, but please do it within the rules of this forum. Please also note that Community do not make game design decisions and nor will we comment on them.
Thank you.
Im not sure if im Right here but i think What Navi is saying is the CCP "Community" Team doesnt make Game design Decisions and therefore wont comment on them directly.... But i could be wrong.
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Sarah Norbulk
Dawn of a new Empire The Initiative.
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Posted - 2009.11.12 20:40:00 -
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Originally by: Minmatar citizen4561451
Originally by: Sarah Norbulk It's been 9 pages and no Dev has come back to say why Moms got nerfed. I wonder if that's because they just don't have one, except maybe to pad their wallets.
how does nerfing something help pad their wallets? god you're a friggin idiot
If you need twice as many for the same effect, that's twice as many holding accounts. Guess what, each of those accounts. Way to do math, dumbass. Now shut the **** up and post some where where your low IQ fits in troll.
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