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Kirana Si
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Posted - 2010.02.16 08:29:00 -
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Originally by: Chesterr theMolester Oh i see what you did there I own a custom motorcycle shop build customer bikes speed mods ect custom paint what have you. And also a small marketing company i get paid to get and keep peoples attention.
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Sista Jaxx
Pator Tech School
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Posted - 2010.02.16 08:32:00 -
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Originally by: Chesterr theMolester
Quote: you are about to turn 30 and all you can do is whine about video games.
And how old are the rest of you? Don't come accuse me of something when your no better
I work 2 nights per week and pull in at least 60k per year.
'nuff said
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Ba'Rumph
The Really Awesome Players
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Posted - 2010.02.16 08:56:00 -
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Originally by: Chesterr theMolester
Oh i see what you did there I own a custom motorcycle shop build customer bikes speed mods ect custom paint what have you. And also a small marketing company i get paid to get and keep peoples attention.
That's nothing. I'm an astronaut and my dad was a Ghostbuster.
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Zartanic
Red Federation
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Posted - 2010.02.16 08:57:00 -
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I'm a Hooker.
This thread has gone well beyond anything relevant so I thought I'd add that in.
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Killer Gandry
Caldari TerraNovae
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Posted - 2010.02.16 09:32:00 -
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Being one of those socalled "older" players I have seen this topic seen come by a lot of times. So here the vieuw of an "older" player on this.
Back in the days when I started it was a pinnacle when you reached the skillpoints to effectivly fit and fly a cruiser. Battlecruisers weren't ingame yet and a BS seemed like eons away. Not only SP wise but also being able to afford one. You couldn't make enough ISK per day to be able to buy one off the rack after like a week of missioning lvl 1's like nowadays.
The SP came in slowly because you had learning skills and that was it. +3 implants were a luxury and +5's even more rare then an honest politician.
So initial advancement was slow as hell, but a lot of us stuck through it.
Mining nirvanna was an Apocalypse with mininglasers, nothing could beat one and there was no such thing as gang bonusses or Orca's to mine into. You had to haul all ores in in a regular Industrial.
Putting 10 battleships in prodution meant you were a very good industrialist with a good backbone to support the vast amounts of minerals required.
If I compare all that to how it is nowadays then new players have a damn lot less to complain than you think.
Now to the PvP part.
Back when I started the missile users were damn fine for PvP. A Raven was an awesome sight in a battle and if you got targetted by one and there was no way to warp out you knew you were in deep trouble. So a lot of PvP people crosstrained or if they were lucky and Caldari just trained up the skills for a Raven, meaning shield tank and missiles. Logistics were only remote stuff you put on other regular ships, there were no bonusses like some T1 cruisers have now.
By your analogy all the time I spend on training shield tank and missiles were a waste of time for PvP then. I do however beg to differ. Instead of being all powerfull like you seem to want to be you have more of a nicheroll now when it comes to flying a Raven for PvP.
The Drake as you state it is a good vessel for PvP, if it weren't there wouldn't be so many in use for PvP. You say that you need HaM AND HML specialisation to be effective in PvP. Bollox. I haven't used HaM's in PvP on a Drake yet, the Dps might be nice but the range issue is what keeps me away from them. HML's are just fine. I don't have to be the number one in damage dealt.
Also when I started the sales of characters wasn't allowed, in no way. However it strikes me as odd that after it was allowed to sell characters for ISK the first threads about old versus new player threads started to pop up.
The whole imbalance as you say there is is just a mute point. The only imbalance is that I paid my subscription for 6 years and I had to spend a lot of time and money to crosstrain because stuff I liked got nerfed or changed in a way it wasn't fun for me to play anymore. Specialisation is the key word and many oldbees were a bit of Jack of all Trades to be succesfull back then. The only real advantage I have now is the broader spectrum of ships and setups I can pick from to fly. But when it comes to a one on one versus a specialised character in equal ships then I have no real advantage except maybe if I am lucky my experience.
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Peter Powers
FinFleet IT Alliance
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Posted - 2010.02.16 11:26:00 -
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Originally by: Chesterr theMolester
I think i know what your issue is .. You fail at life you got a fail job and your only success is in eve so you are going to try to ravage anyone who threatens to take that away from you.
Me on the other hand like irl if i see something i want i go after it and get it. I know my self i am 29 I've owned my home for 6 years and my own business for 8
My older brother who is 34 has owned his own home for 10 and his own business for 12 Both have owned new cars since we where 18
I think it is either my myspace page or my facebook that has me cars and home on them i could post up a link to my 2400 sq ft home if you wish..
you are my hero. can i have your stuff?
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Samantha U
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Posted - 2010.02.16 11:43:00 -
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Originally by: Chesterr theMolester
Quote: [CITATION OF STATISTICS NEEDED]
I don't need to prove anything it's common knowledge
If you can use it so can
I think i know what your issue is .. You fail at life you got a fail job and your only success is in eve so you are going to try to ravage anyone who threatens to take that away from you.
Me on the other hand like irl if i see something i want i go after it and get it. I know my self i am 29 I've owned my home for 6 years and my own business for 8
My older brother who is 34 has owned his own home for 10 and his own business for 12 Both have owned new cars since we where 18
I think it is either my myspace page or my facebook that has me cars and home on them i could post up a link to my 2400 sq ft home if you wish..
I think I see the problem here, overachiever who feels entitled to anything he can grab. He obviously sees games as another way to further flaunt his ambition, a true epeen waver.
Fair enough, you did well with your business, nothing wrong with that, but in the end EVE is just a game. And if you think we're all such losers why are you playing the same game as we do? I wonder if your corp mates realise you view those around you with such contempt.
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Clementina
Eye of God
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Posted - 2010.02.16 12:01:00 -
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Originally by: Samantha U I think I see the problem here, overachiever who feels entitled to anything he can grab. He obviously sees games as another way to further flaunt his ambition, a true epeen waver.
I don't. I see a troll and a liar. Although Chester does see games as another way to further flaunt his 'ambition', if you can call it that.
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Elohllird
Funky Chill Collective
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Posted - 2010.02.16 12:07:00 -
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Originally by: Chesterr theMolester
Quote: [CITATION OF STATISTICS NEEDED]
I don't need to prove anything it's common knowledge
If you can use it so can
I think i know what your issue is .. You fail at life you got a fail job and your only success is in eve so you are going to try to ravage anyone who threatens to take that away from you.
Me on the other hand like irl if i see something i want i go after it and get it. I know my self i am 29 I've owned my home for 6 years and my own business for 8
My older brother who is 34 has owned his own home for 10 and his own business for 12 Both have owned new cars since we where 18
I think it is either my myspace page or my facebook that has me cars and home on them i could post up a link to my 2400 sq ft home if you wish..
lol just lol
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Chesterr theMolester
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Posted - 2010.02.16 12:19:00 -
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Originally by: Elohllird
Originally by: Chesterr theMolester
Quote: [CITATION OF STATISTICS NEEDED]
I don't need to prove anything it's common knowledge
If you can use it so can
I think i know what your issue is .. You fail at life you got a fail job and your only success is in eve so you are going to try to ravage anyone who threatens to take that away from you.
Me on the other hand like irl if i see something i want i go after it and get it. I know my self i am 29 I've owned my home for 6 years and my own business for 8
My older brother who is 34 has owned his own home for 10 and his own business for 12 Both have owned new cars since we where 18
I think it is either my myspace page or my facebook that has me cars and home on them i could post up a link to my 2400 sq ft home if you wish..
lol just lol
Don't hate just because your still living in moms basement at the age of 35 and working as a bag boy at your local market.
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Gariuys
Evil Strangers Inc.
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Posted - 2010.02.16 12:24:00 -
[521]
Your trollfu is failing, seriously, personal insults... that's so 2nd millenium...
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Elohllird
Funky Chill Collective
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Posted - 2010.02.16 12:28:00 -
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Edited by: Elohllird on 16/02/2010 12:28:16
Originally by: Chesterr theMolester
Originally by: Elohllird
Originally by: Chesterr theMolester
Quote: [CITATION OF STATISTICS NEEDED]
I don't need to prove anything it's common knowledge
If you can use it so can
I think i know what your issue is .. You fail at life you got a fail job and your only success is in eve so you are going to try to ravage anyone who threatens to take that away from you.
Me on the other hand like irl if i see something i want i go after it and get it. I know my self i am 29 I've owned my home for 6 years and my own business for 8
My older brother who is 34 has owned his own home for 10 and his own business for 12 Both have owned new cars since we where 18
I think it is either my myspace page or my facebook that has me cars and home on them i could post up a link to my 2400 sq ft home if you wish..
lol just lol
Don't hate just because your still living in moms basement at the age of 35 and working as a bag boy at your local market.
Pretty poor burn for a 29 year old man who owns his own house and business, thought you would be more pro.
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Samantha U
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Posted - 2010.02.16 12:34:00 -
[523]
Originally by: Chesterr theMolester
Originally by: Elohllird
Originally by: Chesterr theMolester
Quote: [CITATION OF STATISTICS NEEDED]
I don't need to prove anything it's common knowledge
If you can use it so can
I think i know what your issue is .. You fail at life you got a fail job and your only success is in eve so you are going to try to ravage anyone who threatens to take that away from you.
Me on the other hand like irl if i see something i want i go after it and get it. I know my self i am 29 I've owned my home for 6 years and my own business for 8
My older brother who is 34 has owned his own home for 10 and his own business for 12 Both have owned new cars since we where 18
I think it is either my myspace page or my facebook that has me cars and home on them i could post up a link to my 2400 sq ft home if you wish..
lol just lol
Don't hate just because your still living in moms basement at the age of 35 and working as a bag boy at your local market.
If, as you claim, your main is in a corp, I reckon there may be some money to be made if someone discovered the identity of your main, I'm sure a few people might pay for that info
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Doctor Mabuse
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Posted - 2010.02.16 12:36:00 -
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I have a question for Uncle Troll here. As an owner of a custom bike shop, who would he rather employ?
The young lad who's spent the last year in college studying the books 40 hours a week to learn all about motor mechanics, or the one that has spent the last year getting his hands dirty in a number of different types of garages; repairing bikes, vans, trucks, cars, diesels, petrol, V8s, V6s etc etc
I know which I'd choose. ------------------------------------
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Nefrin Maldoes
Minmatar Outer Rim Survey and Salvage
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Posted - 2010.02.16 13:08:00 -
[525]
The Horror! ---------- while(horse==dead) { beat(); } |
Riedle
Minmatar Raptus Regalitor Black Legion.
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Posted - 2010.02.16 13:16:00 -
[526]
Originally by: Chesterr theMolester
Quote: [CITATION OF STATISTICS NEEDED]
I don't need to prove anything it's common knowledge
If you can use it so can
I think i know what your issue is .. You fail at life you got a fail job and your only success is in eve so you are going to try to ravage anyone who threatens to take that away from you.
Me on the other hand like irl if i see something i want i go after it and get it. I know my self i am 29 I've owned my home for 6 years and my own business for 8
My older brother who is 34 has owned his own home for 10 and his own business for 12 Both have owned new cars since we where 18
I think it is either my myspace page or my facebook that has me cars and home on them i could post up a link to my 2400 sq ft home if you wish..
This just in - Chester is a young Donald Trump In Real Life(TM)
More at 11!
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Fergus McRae
Gallente New Eden Regimental Navy Rebel Alliance of New Eden
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Posted - 2010.02.16 13:17:00 -
[527]
Originally by: Chesterr theMolester
Originally by: Elohllird
Originally by: Chesterr theMolester
Quote: [CITATION OF STATISTICS NEEDED]
I don't need to prove anything it's common knowledge
If you can use it so can
I think i know what your issue is .. You fail at life you got a fail job and your only success is in eve so you are going to try to ravage anyone who threatens to take that away from you.
Me on the other hand like irl if i see something i want i go after it and get it. I know my self i am 29 I've owned my home for 6 years and my own business for 8
My older brother who is 34 has owned his own home for 10 and his own business for 12 Both have owned new cars since we where 18
I think it is either my myspace page or my facebook that has me cars and home on them i could post up a link to my 2400 sq ft home if you wish..
lol just lol
Don't hate just because your still living in moms basement at the age of 35 and working as a bag boy at your local market.
Really, dude?
Really? This is all you've got left? --- Fergus McRae
Cerebral Mastication |
Nefrin Maldoes
Minmatar Outer Rim Survey and Salvage
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Posted - 2010.02.16 13:19:00 -
[528]
Anyone want to start a pool as to when Godwin's Law will kick in? ---------- while(horse==dead) { beat(); } |
SeismicForce
Terra Incognita Systematic-Chaos
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Posted - 2010.02.16 13:23:00 -
[529]
Originally by: Zartanic I'm a Hooker.
This thread has gone well beyond anything relevant so I thought I'd add that in.
Pics for proof?
Originally by: Allisie In a recent interview, a dev mentioned that ships and skills cause lag and will be removed in EVE 2.
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Danks
Caldari Fat Angry Toe Tappin Inbreds
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Posted - 2010.02.16 14:01:00 -
[530]
Wow, all this because someone is annoyed he can't powerlevel his character.
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Samantha U
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Posted - 2010.02.16 14:14:00 -
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Edited by: Samantha U on 16/02/2010 14:14:22
Originally by: Riedle
Originally by: Chesterr theMolester
Quote: [CITATION OF STATISTICS NEEDED]
I don't need to prove anything it's common knowledge
If you can use it so can
I think i know what your issue is .. You fail at life you got a fail job and your only success is in eve so you are going to try to ravage anyone who threatens to take that away from you.
Me on the other hand like irl if i see something i want i go after it and get it. I know my self i am 29 I've owned my home for 6 years and my own business for 8
My older brother who is 34 has owned his own home for 10 and his own business for 12 Both have owned new cars since we where 18
I think it is either my myspace page or my facebook that has me cars and home on them i could post up a link to my 2400 sq ft home if you wish..
This just in - Chester is a young Donald Trump In Real Life(TM)
More at 11!
Yes, at 11, puberty might start kicking in and he'll end up with a lovely couple of black eyes when his balls drop
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Elohllird
Funky Chill Collective
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Posted - 2010.02.16 14:31:00 -
[532]
this is the best thread c/d
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Daemonspirit
Redhawk Tribal Trust
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Posted - 2010.02.16 14:45:00 -
[533]
Originally by: Chesterr theMolester Edited by: Chesterr theMolester on 10/02/2010 08:39:03 Yes i lash out ask people telling me to buy isk and characters i don't care if that is CCP approved or not its CHEATING.
And no i'm not trolling i am making a legit example of what i find wrong with the game and other people do as well hence the replies of "oh not this again"
And did i mention buying isk and characters is CHEATING
I've identified the problem! Chesterrrrrr doesn't understand the difference between cheating, and a process introduced by ccp to limit and curtail, as much as possible, actual cheating.
Point is Chesterrrr, if you have your own business' (two of them! Good for you lad!) you should certainly have the money to afford the GTC's to buy a toon. This is not cheating.
Its only "cheating" in that you have self-imposed limits that (in this case) are wrong. Not just mistaken, but wrong, and, as this thread proves, a source of irritation for you.
To make your life better, and your time in Eve more enjoyable, i recommend getting some GTC's, and a high sp toon. This is not cheating, its Playing to win. This article does a fine job (although dated and not *specifically" for this game) of explaining why you aren't getting the response you desire from this game.
Point is, your self-imposed limits are limiting what you can accomplish. Your issue, not CCP's, or anyone elses...
Enjoy.
ôEveryone has a right to be stupid; some people just abuse the privilege.ö |
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CCP Adida
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Posted - 2010.02.16 14:57:00 -
[534]
Locking topic because it is no longer on topic.
Adida Community Representative CCP Hf, EVE Online Contact us |
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