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kra torii
Minmatar United Systems Navy Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2010.06.25 17:35:00 -
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Originally by: Robert Ger ok-- alot of nc tears sc tears... and some good stuff...
look, and think again, in large battles, u hav some times the problem, that u reload guns but they did not load, only ammo was used.. next in big battles sometimes, u mwd¦s out and got pwnzed u fly anyways away, but u saw ur ship wreck, yes a ghostship next, the caps ships jumped? why without the destroyed mods ? thats all speak for dead ships, and for old dominion bug, so delete the ghost ships, and pls fix this :)
dead titans are dead, like the wrecks
I'm going to hazard a guess and say English isn't your first language.
I understand what you're saying about the guns not cycling, and I have no idea if the recent server move has helped anything, but still.
The GM stated that nothing was returned by them, yet things still appeared in space after downtime.
I honestly don't know why there is still a debate over this, it's been GM verified and both sides lost/won something here.
Move on people!
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Agent Known
Caldari Night Theifs Apotheosis of Virtue
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Posted - 2010.06.26 00:02:00 -
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I always thought loading the system didn't matter...it was loading grid when you landed. It's one thing when you jump into a full grid, but it's a similar lag issue when you warp into one.
The whole duping thing was probably a conflict between the nodes on whether or not the ships actually cynoed our correctly. Since there is a session change when you cyno, we can assume the server is "handing off" your session to another node. If the sending node never gets a response saying "session loaded here, trash yours" due to lag, you have ghost ships. I know some MMOs also have client-side item caching which makes it easy to "fake" dupes, but it doesn't really apply in this case.
Anyway....*grabs some popcorn and Quafe* On another note, I also have an annoying sig. |
Toko Baru
Minmatar ANZAC ALLIANCE IT Alliance
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Posted - 2010.06.26 19:07:00 -
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Originally by: Marlona Sky For anyone that would like a smiley presentation on current and past events on this, please see below:
Before Fight NC: SC:
NC Jumps Into Trap NC: SC:
NC Loses Supercaps NC: SC:
Right after DT NC: SC: CCP:
Hope everyone is up to speed now.
That's funny btw great make smiles it mate
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Fred0
Caldari Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2010.06.26 19:30:00 -
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Honestly Robert Ger, you can't have been there because your view of reality is so far away from anything I've encountered before.
Quote: cei-fred0: http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1337682&page=23#682 - what a genius rawr-sala-cameron: Robert Ger is probably the biggest german ****** in the game you can find :p rawr-sala-cameron: well I actually don't know if he's german rawr-sala-cameron: because his english is better than his german actually rawr-imperian: he is, and all germans hate him. rawr-imperian: literally
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PCaBoo
Caldari No.Mercy
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Posted - 2010.06.26 21:33:00 -
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I guess they get to keep them. Otherwise, there's probably an even bigger headache from the people who have been killed by those supercaps since the incident happened.
GJ CCP. ________________________________ Stop nerfing everything! |
Marlona Sky
Caldari D00M. RED.OverLord
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Posted - 2010.06.27 02:30:00 -
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10 days now CCP. Any updates on the incident?
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Lord TGR
Minmatar Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2010.06.27 13:40:00 -
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I wouldn't hold my breath if I were you. The players aren't making enough of a stink about it, so it's probably just being quietly ignored.
I'll happily be proven wrong, though.
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PCaBoo
Caldari No.Mercy
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Posted - 2010.06.27 15:47:00 -
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Originally by: Lord TGR I wouldn't hold my breath if I were you. The players aren't making enough of a stink about it, so it's probably just being quietly ignored.
I'll happily be proven wrong, though.
So their strategy of ignore it til it goes away works again. =\ ________________________________ Stop nerfing everything! |
Metal Dude
Gallente Destructive Influence IT Alliance
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Posted - 2010.06.27 17:27:00 -
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Maybe they need a little push, because it appears that unless thereÆs an article in some game magazine about this, CCP will try to ignore their paying customers request for explanation about their failed code, blatant favoritism and inability to act on this matter.
The truth will set you free
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JuGGeR
Caldari Phantom Squad Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2010.06.28 01:41:00 -
[700]
Originally by: Metal Dude Maybe they need a little push, because it appears that unless thereÆs an article in some game magazine about this, CCP will try to ignore their paying customers request for explanation about their failed code, blatant favoritism and inability to act on this matter.
2nd that 1 / signed
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Deki
Minmatar 4S Corporation Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2010.06.28 01:48:00 -
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I will post update when CCP publishes minutes from CSM meetings.
Vuk
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Tiger's Spirit
Caldari 24th Imperial Guard
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Posted - 2010.06.28 05:00:00 -
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Originally by: Marlona Sky 10 days now CCP. Any updates on the incident?
Yes they still investigating what server hax used the russians. :D
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ThaDollaGenerale
Caldari North Eastern Swat Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2010.06.28 11:03:00 -
[703]
Can we just lock this thread?
It's obvious that there is no more constructive posting in here. Just flames.
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Marlona Sky
Caldari D00M. RED.OverLord
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Posted - 2010.06.28 13:31:00 -
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Originally by: Deki I will post update when CCP publishes minutes from CSM meetings.
Vuk
And why the **** do you have more info than the rest of us? This ship resurrection after down time affected all of us at the same time. CCP should share any new information with all of us at the same time.
Unless of course your trying to secure more bets and then let CCP know it is ok for them to let the rest of us in on the big secret? It has become quickly obvious representing the player base as well as communicating with us is the very last thing on your agenda. How quickly once elected some CSM delegates turn their back on the community.
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Rakshasa Taisab
Caldari Sane Industries Inc. Initiative Mercenaries
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Posted - 2010.06.28 14:55:00 -
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Originally by: Marlona Sky And why the **** do you have more info than the rest of us? This ship resurrection after down time affected all of us at the same time. CCP should share any new information with all of us at the same time.
Cause CCP did what we players have been clamoring for all the time, to involve the community representatives in important policy/gameplay decisions.
And not you're going all EMO and I WANT MY TOYS on them when they do?
Just sit back, relax, and wait for the details to work their way through CCP, the GMs, etc so they have a new policy when it comes to conflicts between DB, nodes and killmail servers.
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Marlona Sky
Caldari D00M. RED.OverLord
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Posted - 2010.06.28 15:40:00 -
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Originally by: Rakshasa Taisab Cause CCP did what we players have been clamoring for all the time, to involve the community representatives in important policy/gameplay decisions.
And not you're going all EMO and I WANT MY TOYS on them when they do?
Just sit back, relax, and wait for the details to work their way through CCP, the GMs, etc so they have a new policy when it comes to conflicts between DB, nodes and killmail servers.
I would just rather CCP talk to us directly instead of the CSM if as we saw before, CSM member using inside information to make some bills of other players in betting then CCP decides to talk to us. But whatever. lol Anyone that is foolish enough to make bets against someone who has inside information that decides to hold it back till he gets rich off the players deserves to lose their ISK.
Most likely CCP is gonna wait till after this patch tomorrow to announced their findings, the patch will hopefully include a fix to keep the players PC and CCP server on the same page so when someone tries to jump out they either do and live or they don't and die and everyone sees exactly that and also makes sure dead ships stay dead. One can only hope...
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Kikki Di'je
Minmatar Lay Low
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Posted - 2010.06.28 18:11:00 -
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Originally by: Marlona Sky How quickly once elected some CSM delegates turn their back on the community.
Someones bitter...how about you take that deep breath and step away from the keyboard. You are far from anyone important to be demanding anything.
Stop crying already, makes Evil Thug's emo rage look like Barney in comparison.
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Marlona Sky
Caldari D00M. RED.OverLord
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Posted - 2010.06.28 19:16:00 -
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Originally by: Kikki Di'je
Originally by: Marlona Sky How quickly once elected some CSM delegates turn their back on the community.
Someones bitter...how about you take that deep breath and step away from the keyboard. You are far from anyone important to be demanding anything.
Stop crying already, makes Evil Thug's emo rage look like Barney in comparison.
I just want some answers. But please alt, keep saying every response I do is mad or emo or bitter or whatever makes you happy.
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PCaBoo
Caldari No.Mercy
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Posted - 2010.06.28 21:12:00 -
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Originally by: Marlona Sky
Originally by: Kikki Di'je
Originally by: Marlona Sky How quickly once elected some CSM delegates turn their back on the community.
Someones bitter...how about you take that deep breath and step away from the keyboard. You are far from anyone important to be demanding anything.
Stop crying already, makes Evil Thug's emo rage look like Barney in comparison.
I just want some answers. But please alt, keep saying every response I do is mad or emo or bitter or whatever makes you happy.
I guess nobody cares. ________________________________ Stop nerfing everything! |
Farham
Gallente The Fimbriani Shadow of xXDEATHXx
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Posted - 2010.06.28 21:19:00 -
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"I just want some answers. But please alt, keep saying every response I do is mad or emo or bitter or whatever makes you happy. Laughing"
Sit down Francis. Not hacking it in 0.0 since 2006
Farham is my name, and fail quoting is my game. |
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Hyzenthlay Yarrow
Minmatar Infinite Improbability Inc -Mostly Harmless-
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Posted - 2010.06.29 01:01:00 -
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Originally by: Marlona Sky I just want some answers. But please alt, keep saying every response I do is mad or emo or bitter or whatever makes you happy.
Calm down, you're going to give yourself skin failure.
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Le Cardinal
Caldari Destructive Influence IT Alliance
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Posted - 2010.06.29 06:47:00 -
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Originally by: Hyzenthlay Yarrow
Originally by: Marlona Sky I just want some answers. But please alt, keep saying every response I do is mad or emo or bitter or whatever makes you happy.
Calm down, you're going to give yourself skin failure.
MH doing a PL in order to take focus away from the fact that there is obvious favourism going on. CCP knows they have a potential new EVEgate going on and try to avoid any discussion about it.
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PCaBoo
Caldari No.Mercy
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Posted - 2010.06.29 06:59:00 -
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Originally by: Le Cardinal
CCP knows they have a potential new EVEgate going on and try to avoid any discussion about it.
Are we talking about Watergate fail here or the abortion of a patch that brought us gate.eveonline.com? ________________________________ Stop nerfing everything! |
Lord TGR
Minmatar Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2010.06.29 07:18:00 -
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Originally by: Le Cardinal MH doing a PL in order to take focus away from the fact that there is obvious favourism going on.
Which favoritism?
Originally by: Le Cardinal CCP knows they have a potential new EVEgate going on and try to avoid any discussion about it.
New evegate? Do elaborate.
As for EVE itself, I just found this on another board:
Quote: just had a fleet guy lag out from a 4 man bomber run with 21 in local
Yes. Things have improved vastly after the server move, and we've gotten tons of information on exactly what this is, so we know if it's even being worked on.
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arjun
Amarr Battlestars Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2010.06.29 08:09:00 -
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i am as usual semi surprised how opinions about facts differ along political lines. one should think that there is only one opinion that fits reality best but i am mistaken obviously. which ships are the ghost ones here? the ones that jumped out and were destroyed after server agreed, that they jumped out? or the ones that showed up after next dt when server finally recognised that they had jumped out? how they left their pilots behind is anybodyies guess.
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Tyby
Gallente KANTAI HIKAGE White Noise.
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Posted - 2010.06.29 08:51:00 -
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Originally by: arjun i am as usual semi surprised how opinions about facts differ along political lines. one should think that there is only one opinion that fits reality best but i am mistaken obviously. which ships are the ghost ones here?
the ones with missing( destroyed ) fittings; no matter how you look at it, they died and where resurrected latter, there is no doubt about it.
now, we can talk about them jumped out or being scrambled and ruberbanded back to sistem, we can talk about lag, nodes,hate,love,nc,sc, whatever, but the missing fittings shows those ships died at some point, then somehow where "phoenixed" after dt
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Lord TGR
Minmatar Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2010.06.29 09:26:00 -
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Edited by: Lord TGR on 29/06/2010 09:29:58
Originally by: Tyby Edited by: Tyby on 29/06/2010 09:10:51
Originally by: arjun
which ships are the ghost ones here?
the ones with missing( destroyed ) fittings; no matter how you look at it, they died and where resurrected latter, there is no doubt about it.
now, we can talk about them jumped out or being scrambled and ruberbanded back to sistem, we can talk about lag, nodes,hate,love,nc,sc, whatever, but the missing fittings shows those ships died at some point, then somehow where "phoenixed" after dt
Um. Is this really more important than the cause of all this squabbling, i.e. the servers can't keep consistency under heavy load?
If the titans and caps were removed from game, would this help in regaining focus on the fact the servers can't keep consistency under heavy load?
What about the fact I just saw a report of 21 guys in local lagging out to a 4 man bombing run?
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Tyby
Gallente KANTAI HIKAGE White Noise.
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Posted - 2010.06.29 10:48:00 -
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Originally by: Lord TGR Edited by: Lord TGR on 29/06/2010 09:29:58
Originally by: Tyby Edited by: Tyby on 29/06/2010 09:10:51
Originally by: arjun
which ships are the ghost ones here?
the ones with missing( destroyed ) fittings; no matter how you look at it, they died and where resurrected latter, there is no doubt about it.
now, we can talk about them jumped out or being scrambled and ruberbanded back to sistem, we can talk about lag, nodes,hate,love,nc,sc, whatever, but the missing fittings shows those ships died at some point, then somehow where "phoenixed" after dt
Um. Is this really more important than the cause of all this squabbling, i.e. the servers can't keep consistency under heavy load?
If the titans and caps were removed from game, would this help in regaining focus on the fact the servers can't keep consistency under heavy load?
What about the fact I just saw a report of 21 guys in local lagging out to a 4 man bombing run?
Um. i was just trying to answer that question i was quoting; never said this is "the most" important part of the game, ofc it's not, but let's be honest: lag it's here and there are no signs that the servers are getting any better; this it's the starting point in any "large fleet br"; also, the second starting point was "don't matter how bad our hamsters react, a dead ship it's a dead ship!". That was the situation from quite a long long time... until now. ofc, like any other player of eve online i would like to have some nice bug free servers, with manageablelag, but if this it's imposible right now, at least we can ask to be evenly treated by the servers/CCP
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Le Cardinal
Caldari Destructive Influence IT Alliance
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Posted - 2010.06.29 12:55:00 -
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Originally by: Lord TGR
Um. Is this really more important than the cause of all this squabbling, i.e. the servers can't keep consistency under heavy load?
If the titans and caps were removed from game, would this help in regaining focus on the fact the servers can't keep consistency under heavy load?
What about the fact I just saw a report of 21 guys in local lagging out to a 4 man bombing run?
I do agree that the performance of the servers are the most important problem here, but that doesnt take away the fact that those ships died in combat, and that CCP stated that they do not reimburse ships lost in such fights. If this is a change of policy or favourism i dont know, but either way they should reimburse all ship lost under similiar circumstances. H-W anyone?
People can squabble all they want about different situations and different problems. But it all comes down to this: The servers dont perform as they should and if NC gets their ships reimbursed because of it, then so should everyone else. End of story. Rest is just attempts to twist the truth to justify all this.
So ccp should make up their mind on this matter. Either reimburse ALL ships that have been lost due to servers, or none. Fair or not fair. It affects us all.
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Kushmir
Amarr GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2010.06.29 13:09:00 -
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Originally by: Le Cardinal
I do agree that the performance of the servers are the most important problem here, but that doesnt take away the fact that those ships died in combat, and that CCP stated that they do not reimburse ships lost in such fights. If this is a change of policy or favourism i dont know, but either way they should reimburse all ship lost under similiar circumstances. H-W anyone?
People can squabble all they want about different situations and different problems. But it all comes down to this: The servers dont perform as they should and if NC gets their ships reimbursed because of it, then so should everyone else. End of story. Rest is just attempts to twist the truth to justify all this.
So ccp should make up their mind on this matter. Either reimburse ALL ships that have been lost due to servers, or none. Fair or not fair. It affects us all.
CCP didn't reimburse any ships you moron.
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