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Nafri
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Posted - 2005.02.09 18:27:00 -
[601]
Well I bought an Mega too
but only Im fed up seeing all the ****ty ravens and geddons
When I trained for geddon, Torpedo splash made a Raven a Real Skill ship
Time your Torps, check your targets, dont act foolish
that was it
Wanna fly with me?
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RaphKa
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Posted - 2005.02.09 20:34:00 -
[602]
may this post be on the boards for ever !!!
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Buraken v2
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Posted - 2005.02.09 22:13:00 -
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Edited by: Buraken v2 on 09/02/2005 22:13:08
I see people saying "torps do splash bla bla bla" all the time, but when I attacked a bunch of NPC rats (and this has happened several time) and engage the one in the MIDDLE, when the torps hit it, the rats around it dont even get a dent and yes they are close, really close to the impact, no more then 500m for sure, what gives?
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OnDa Rag
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Posted - 2005.02.10 04:22:00 -
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I'm really tired of people saying that ya just need to get your skills up to make the Mega work properly . . . the point of this thread is that the ships should be balanced w/ an equal amount of skill points. If I have to train more and equip more (which uses up slots) to make the Mega do decent damage, then the ship isn't on the same level as others.
Sure someone w/ a hell of a lot of skill points wielding T2/Named Gunz and a lot of named mods can make the ship run decently . . . but is it fair that someone can do the same (or even better) w/ a cheaper setup and less skillpoints if they fly another ship?
Balance means we all have a fighting chance w/ the same level of training and same resources. That is currently not the case w/ Gal. Ships . . .
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Henka
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Posted - 2005.02.10 06:14:00 -
[605]
splash damage is removed since long time back on all weapons but the smartbomb...
exploit, buggy and... buggy..
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Cleric
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Posted - 2005.02.10 12:42:00 -
[606]
Bump
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WizEye
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Posted - 2005.02.10 15:32:00 -
[607]
 Originally by: RaphKa
may this post be on the boards for ever !!!
This will be on the boards until something is done.
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OnDa Rag
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Posted - 2005.02.10 18:56:00 -
[608]
Originally by: WizEye
Originally by: RaphKa
may this post be on the boards for ever !!!
This will be on the boards until something is done.
31 pages . . . no response . . . and still this thread will not die.
I dont think we will be going away any time soon. Oho yeah . . . ignore the other Gal. BS thread . .its an attempt to draw attention away from and kill this one.
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Profiteer
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Posted - 2005.02.10 19:21:00 -
[609]
Oright CCP-time to get a response written
Bump
-Profit
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david1090879
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Posted - 2005.02.10 21:02:00 -
[610]
I too i Have near to 9 mill sp, and have just got my first Mega.
I have flown
Raven : The biggest damage dealer of them all. Ideal for missions, Good for everthing all around.
Apoc : Not too bad at missions (not as good as the raven good for range and PVP
Now what can I say about the mega, missions it falls down due to the rails being neft. please dont blame my skills I got almost 2 mill in gunnery, Including controller bursts and tracking skills.
My main gripe is the tracking, skill rubbish with tracking enhancers, and computers + I also have a tracking implant.
My view is I hope they do something about the tracking. Then this would bring the effectiveness up to simailiar levels as the raven and apoc.
BTW even Gallente b/s is at level 4 at this time, the extra 20% tracking is still not good enough...
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Baun
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Posted - 2005.02.10 21:04:00 -
[611]
Edited by: Baun on 10/02/2005 21:08:18
Edited by: Baun on 10/02/2005 21:07:12
Megathron -
1. Is outtanked by Ravens AND Apocs
2. Is outdamaged by Ravens AND Apocs, unless you use blasters
3. Uses more cap than Ravens, Apocs AND Tempests
3. Is Outranged by Armageddons AND Ravens (if you use blasters)
4. Is Outdamaged by Armageddons (regardless of your setup).
So what is a mega pilot to do? Do you go for a range setup which uses more cap and does less damage than other setups while having even less defense? Do you go for a short range setup that is outranged and outdamaged by a ship that is half the cost?
The answer is that neither is a viable option. The only real thing a mega can do in PvP (something that imo only the mega and tempest are really suited for) is boosted sniping with ranged ammo. This is pretty damn restrictive and makes me wish I had first specialized in Amarr (which I am now doing after finishing the Gal ship skills) instead of training up Gallente.
Here are some solutions;
1. Increase Blaster damage by at least 25% OR Increase blaster range by at least 150% (some hybrid of both is probably a good idea)
2. Increase Blaster tracking significantly
3. Change the tracking bonus to an MWD cap penalty bonus
4. Reduce the drone bays on all non-Gallente BSs to a maximum of 1000. This may seem unrelated to some but it doesn't seem right to me that multiple non-Gallente ships have the same or greater drone usage capability, which removes this as an additional bonus to flying a megathron.
The Enemy's Gate is Down
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babo
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Posted - 2005.02.10 23:04:00 -
[612]
yea.. fixing to get myself a mega and of course this thread is what I think of.
I need a bs for lvl 4 missions, and the gallente bs is what I will be able to fly unless I go off and spend a lot of time training up to fly another race where I get no racial bonuses and honestly, that sucks..
Not to mention the missle "fix" might make caldari ships not worth it.
Wish a dev would respond to this.
and no, this thread is not going to die.
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Darken Two
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Posted - 2005.02.10 23:10:00 -
[613]
Thank you all for keepin this thread alive. I'm just a bit miffed about some indy popping n00b who started anothr thread about how megas are ok becos of his uber fitting skills or some such nonsense. I'm not letting this thread die till something is heard from god or CCP.
Why dont you just DIE DIE DIE !!!!
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Masimo
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Posted - 2005.02.11 00:42:00 -
[614]
bump
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Shayla Sh'inlux
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Posted - 2005.02.11 00:47:00 -
[615]
Signed.
Although I seriously doubt some dev will reply to this, since they would already have done so by now if they intended to don't ya think?
They probably end up boosting Amarr some more.
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Ka Dargo
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Posted - 2005.02.11 02:47:00 -
[616]
Lots of good ideas, and congrats to everyone for keeping the thread alive.
My biggest gripes about the mega & dom are that they don't have enough grid & hybrids use too much cap.
Oh and blaster tracking & range is quite honestly a god damn joke.
- Ka Dargo.
[ 2005.04.10 14:41:05 ] Your 425mm Railgun II perfectly strikes Dread Pith Massacrer, wrecking for 1271.6 damage.
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david1090879
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Posted - 2005.02.11 04:08:00 -
[617]
bump 
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Franky B
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Posted - 2005.02.11 04:31:00 -
[618]
signed. I'm new to this game but I dont fancy the idea of having to retrain for those bandwagoned caldari ships.
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Farjung
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Posted - 2005.02.11 05:18:00 -
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Originally by: babo
I need a bs for lvl 4 missions, and the gallente bs is what I will be able to fly unless I go off and spend a lot of time training up to fly another race where I get no racial bonuses and honestly, that sucks..
Going slightly off at a tangent but anyway...
I might have got the wrong end of the stick here, but are you saying you get some kind of bonus flying Gallente ships because you are Gallente? It sounds like that's what you're saying at any rate. This isn't the case - a pilot from any other race who chooses to fly a megathron gets exactly the same bonuses as you, there's no additional bonus for being a Gallente pilot in a Gallente ship. What race you are decides (to some extent) your attributes and what racial frigate and small weapon turret skills you start off with, but not much else.
End of tangent, bump etc.
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Henka
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Posted - 2005.02.11 10:02:00 -
[620]
Edited by: Henka on 11/02/2005 10:03:01
Im now canceling my two accounts, i will be back when i se the battleships more balanced toward each other.
Im not going to give away my stuff but im going over to wow, not cuz its any good but cuz... atleast it has the "brand new" smell over itself.
But im seeing myself canceling that too in 1-2 months, so dont worry but im not giving away my cash to CCP just to play a unstable and unbalanced game!.
I did mention that in my reason for canceling..
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vickilla
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Posted - 2005.02.11 13:44:00 -
[621]
COME ON CCP ANSWER US
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OzaLoni
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Posted - 2005.02.11 14:44:00 -
[622]
Quote:
New upcoming ships in addition to Tech Level 2 ships (New 2005' Megathron anyone?). These were also posted in a dev blog a short time ago.
from ouver in the player news center....
What you read into this I leave to you...IS this a Tech 2 bs? I don't know but it gives us a small ( like nano ) poss of some hope 
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Watanabe
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Posted - 2005.02.11 14:50:00 -
[623]
Originally by: OzaLoni
Quote:
New upcoming ships in addition to Tech Level 2 ships (New 2005' Megathron anyone?). These were also posted in a dev blog a short time ago.
from ouver in the player news center....
What you read into this I leave to you...IS this a Tech 2 bs? I don't know but it gives us a small ( like nano ) poss of some hope
Yeah, except other races tech2 bs will kick ass even more
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Dionysus Davinci
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Posted - 2005.02.11 14:52:00 -
[624]
Haha, I would never spend big space bux on a Tech II Megathron. Espically not when that requires you to get close and personal and costs big space bux.
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Cleric
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Posted - 2005.02.11 14:59:00 -
[625]
I say fix the tech 1 version first!
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Loka
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Posted - 2005.02.11 14:59:00 -
[626]
Originally by: Dionysus Davinci
Haha, I would never spend big space bux on a Tech II Megathron. Espically not when that requires you to get close and personal and costs big space bux.
Heared Megathrons can fit Rails too, but probably this is only a rumor.
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Noriath
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Posted - 2005.02.11 15:28:00 -
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As long as the BPO lottery keeps going on most of us don't have a chance to ever get a fair price on a higher Tech2 ship anyways, why bother with Tech2 Battleships? (More toys for megacorps!!)
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Darken Two
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Posted - 2005.02.11 15:45:00 -
[628]
ok people get back on topic. This isnt about tech 2 bships. Lets not get this thread locked. This is about bringing the megathron on par with all teh other tech 1 bships.
Why dont you just DIE DIE DIE !!!!
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j0sephine
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Posted - 2005.02.11 16:11:00 -
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"Heared Megathrons can fit Rails too, but probably this is only a rumor."
It's all lies; everyone knows Gallente ships are supposed to be all about close range, that's why they get damage/tracking boosts to rails and blasters alike... ;s
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Juan Andalusian
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Posted - 2005.02.11 16:28:00 -
[630]
Originally by: Nafri
When I trained for geddon, Torpedo splash made a Raven a Real Skill ship
And small med and not only large sbomb being effective vs torps made it a skill ship as well.
Not only had the Raven pilot to time his shots or switch to the more swift cruise, but the taranis, ares, thorax, megathron pilot had also to time his sbombing to minimize some of the damage.
But then empire people whined about cruise missile frigates, sbombing concordoken and torp splash corkodoken ... and the **** started to hit the fan.
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