Originally by: Rolix FallenOne

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i'll leave.

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Originally by: Bart Fast

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Originally by: Thom Baron

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Edited by: Thom Baron on 21/06/2011 12:27:32
Hmm, guess I'm not gonna be able to play anymore? Unless the incarna client lets me use the character creator without my computer freezing..

By the way,
CCP can you just tell us straight up rather than make us figure it out... Will the mac patch fail like all the previous major version patches have?

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Fail?? Really, never had a mac patch fail.... always worked fine, just bigger than windows which is a pita....

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Originally by: Bethamene

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Originally by: Alabugin

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It is no longer possible to set up a ship to be impervious to scanning while uncloaked.

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This really needed to be done. I live in NPC Curse space - and I tell you it is ****ing rediculous that you can have loki/tengu running around happily in Curse doing lvl 4 missions carefree in 0.0 making 100mISK/hr.

Feel that *****es? Those are my probes...and something else too

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cry more

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Originally by: Thom Baron

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Edited by: Thom Baron on 21/06/2011 12:42:47

Originally by: Bart Fast

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Originally by: Thom Baron

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Edited by: Thom Baron on 21/06/2011 12:27:32
Hmm, guess I'm not gonna be able to play anymore? Unless the incarna client lets me use the character creator without my computer freezing..

By the way,
CCP can you just tell us straight up rather than make us figure it out... Will the mac patch fail like all the previous major version patches have?

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Fail?? Really, never had a mac patch fail.... always worked fine, just bigger than windows which is a pita....

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Wow. consider yourself lucky... lots of people have the same issue.. Everytime they release a major version I have to download the entire client again because the patch destroys my eve installation. strangely minor updates work fine...

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Originally by: Jeneral Jane

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Originally by: Joe Space

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What I propose is that links are made so that they do not work within POS shields.

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Supported for even moar carebear tears from null-sec carebears who boost from their Rorqual's behind POS shields.

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Originally by: Clementine A

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Originally by: Thom Baron

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Edited by: Thom Baron on 21/06/2011 12:42:47

Originally by: Bart Fast

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Originally by: Thom Baron

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Edited by: Thom Baron on 21/06/2011 12:27:32
Hmm, guess I'm not gonna be able to play anymore? Unless the incarna client lets me use the character creator without my computer freezing..

By the way,
CCP can you just tell us straight up rather than make us figure it out... Will the mac patch fail like all the previous major version patches have?

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Fail?? Really, never had a mac patch fail.... always worked fine, just bigger than windows which is a pita....

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Wow. consider yourself lucky... lots of people have the same issue.. Everytime they release a major version I have to download the entire client again because the patch destroys my eve installation. strangely minor updates work fine...

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Time machine is your friend :D

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Originally by: Shepak

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Don't know if someone's mentioned this already, but in the Fixes - Character Creation and New Player Experience section of the Patch Notes, it says

"Completing the first mission of the Minmatar NOE Epic Arc will result in the correct rookie ship being given as the mission reward."

I think it's meant to say NPE instead of NOE?

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Originally by: Count'Dus

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SSAO is disabled on all video cards except NVIDIA cards.

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CCP, almost 50% gamers in the world using ATI cards. You are playing the fool with them. With you subscribers. Why?

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Originally by: jackk O'neil

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still no one answering if the specs have/will change for incarna, And yeah i have to agree stop whinning this is going to be awsome, i hope i get to enjoy it

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Originally by: Demonfuge Malevolent

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I am looking forward to this, I think it will be great.

Despite losing a day of Eve to downtime (and wondering what real life really means) I think the new content will make up for it.

Btw does anyone know what the daily downtime is actually for? I can't see anywhere what it is actually used to do...

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Originally by: Demonfuge Malevolent

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Btw does anyone know what the daily downtime is actually for? I can't see anywhere what it is actually used to do...

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Originally by: Demonfuge Malevolent

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I am looking forward to this, I think it will be great.

Despite losing a day of Eve to downtime (and wondering what real life really means) I think the new content will make up for it.

Btw does anyone know what the daily downtime is actually for? I can't see anywhere what it is actually used to do...

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Originally by: Cpt SpyOnYou

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OK I am furious now. I really do not get it why have you done all these improvements on turrets BUT yet you will not FIX missile launchers graphics !?!?!?!?!?! I'm speechless about this ...... FOR GOD SAKES AN MINE put launcher graphics back, we use to have them I remember this.


PS Get your acts together stop being like soni fix the old stuff first before you take 10 steps forward!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


SINCERELY DISAPPOINTED !!!!!!!

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Originally by: Clementine A

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Originally by: Demonfuge Malevolent

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I am looking forward to this, I think it will be great.

Despite losing a day of Eve to downtime (and wondering what real life really means) I think the new content will make up for it.

Btw does anyone know what the daily downtime is actually for? I can't see anywhere what it is actually used to do...

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Perhaps stuff like code deployment, database migration, extended testing, ....

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Originally by: Lee Anderson

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Originally by: Clementine A

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Originally by: Demonfuge Malevolent

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I am looking forward to this, I think it will be great.

Despite losing a day of Eve to downtime (and wondering what real life really means) I think the new content will make up for it.

Btw does anyone know what the daily downtime is actually for? I can't see anywhere what it is actually used to do...

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Perhaps stuff like code deployment, database migration, extended testing, ....

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database migration? in 30 mins???? holly fck they must have servers that are from the future....

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Originally by: Demonfuge Malevolent

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Thank you for the link but not the sarcasm ;)

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Originally by: G'Shad

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The changes to eliminate unscannable ships will not have great impact on the number of people using T3 boosting alts, it just means the players will need to pay slight attention to the alt and keep them moving around in system. In a month or two it such will be the norm. This is no different than ultra deep safe points. A degree of risk is the balance to the benefit of the command link bonuses.

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Originally by: G'Shad

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If I have been reading this thread correctly, it is a lot of ôcomplain complain complain, T3 boosting alts can no longer use an exploit to make them unable to be found . . . complain complain complain, computers till running on coal/steam have trouble loading the avatar graphics, complain complain complain, nVidia happens to be paying to have their three seconds of load time in the intro rather than ATIö

Personally, I say thumbs up to you CCP for continuing to try and move towards a game that avoids nonsensical exploits and for working to keep you game looking fresh and up to date. I would hate to see EVE go the way of so many other long running MMO, aging poorly because their owning companies are to cheap to go about updating graphics.

The changes to eliminate unscannable ships will not have great impact on the number of people using T3 boosting alts, it just means the players will need to pay slight attention to the alt and keep them moving around in system. In a month or two it such will be the norm. This is no different than ultra deep safe points. A degree of risk is the balance to the benefit of the command link bonuses.

As for graphic cards, the nVidia and ATI do not play well together. There are minor elements to each card that makes them unique. So CCP is programming in favor of one over the other. Guess what, it happens all the time in the gaming industry.

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Originally by: SuZiE DeMaRcHi

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Originally by: G'Shad

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If I have been reading this thread correctly, it is a lot of ôcomplain complain complain, T3 boosting alts can no longer use an exploit to make them unable to be found . . . complain complain complain, computers till running on coal/steam have trouble loading the avatar graphics, complain complain complain, nVidia happens to be paying to have their three seconds of load time in the intro rather than ATIö

Personally, I say thumbs up to you CCP for continuing to try and move towards a game that avoids nonsensical exploits and for working to keep you game looking fresh and up to date. I would hate to see EVE go the way of so many other long running MMO, aging poorly because their owning companies are to cheap to go about updating graphics.

The changes to eliminate unscannable ships will not have great impact on the number of people using T3 boosting alts, it just means the players will need to pay slight attention to the alt and keep them moving around in system. In a month or two it such will be the norm. This is no different than ultra deep safe points. A degree of risk is the balance to the benefit of the command link bonuses.

As for graphic cards, the nVidia and ATI do not play well together. There are minor elements to each card that makes them unique. So CCP is programming in favor of one over the other. Guess what, it happens all the time in the gaming industry.

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I totally approve of this message ^.^

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Originally by: Bubbles Udan

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Originally by: G'Shad

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The changes to eliminate unscannable ships will not have great impact on the number of people using T3 boosting alts, it just means the players will need to pay slight attention to the alt and keep them moving around in system. In a month or two it such will be the norm. This is no different than ultra deep safe points. A degree of risk is the balance to the benefit of the command link bonuses.

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You know command links do not work while warping?

I'm not really taking any side on the issue, just pointing out "moving around" and boosting are incompatible :P

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Originally by: Joy Mongaguarda

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People asking CCP to make the game less boring.
People complaining about performance issues.
People asking CCP to make CQ disable feature because it loads graphics, has no meaning in an MMO -RPG- (that is my favorite).
People complaining other problems arent being solved because of the work in CQ.

There is one major solution for all of this:
Make CQ unavoidable, and very costy in terms of machine. Doing so, all the previous mentioned people really leave the game, and the people who bought their computer in this decade, and play MMO -RPG- because they like MMO -RPG- will be able to have a better game.

My PC has around 2.5 years in my use, and still run 4 EVE instances at ease, and I havent upgraded this PC EVER.
I agree EVE is boring lately, and it is boring because you cant really feel the excitement of being part of EVE universe because it has many "reality checks" to enable old pcs, button smashers and general whiners play it.

About time EVE as a scifi MMORPG, started to gather SciFi fans and not WoW dropouts counting "arena ratings"(killboards) and bragging knowing it all and not knowing why you cant have a draenei warlock.

A hint: EVE has became boring, among other reasons, preciselly because many of its players started ignoring the EVE universe and started making EVE "pew pew in space".

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