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CCP Navigator C C P C C P Alliance	Posted - 2011.06.20 21:51:00 - [1] EVE Online: Incarna 1.0 will be deployed during an extended downtime on Tuesday, June 21. Tranquility will be taken offline at 07:00 UTC and is expected to return to service by 17:00 UTC. EVE Online websites will be offline from 07:00 UTC to 09:00 UTC; during that time the deployment updates will be available on the temporary landing page at www.eveonline.com. The EVE API will be unavailable from 07:00 until 11:00 UTC. Incarna 1.0 features Captain's Quarters - the first step towards opening the interiors of space stations for players; the new graphics and animations for ship turrets; and the new Noble Exchange store offering new and exciting goods. The new players will now embark on their journey in EVE Online guided by completely revamped tutorials and the familiar voice of Aura, while the new agent finder and corporation recruitment tools will make life easier for all pilots. You are welcome to check out the Incarna expansion page for more information; the full patch notes are available here. We will be publishing regular deployment updates in a special thread in General Discussion during deployment.. A Client Update # 1 for Incarna will be offered when you update your client to Incarna 1.0. This client update fixes a number of issues introduced with EVE Online: Incarna 1.0. We strongly urge you to download and install this client update. Navigator Lead Community Representative CCP Hf, EVE Online

Helleena Justine	Posted - 2011.06.20 22:02:00 - [2] The new Maller model isn't in 1.0?

CCP Navigator C C P C C P Alliance	Posted - 2011.06.20 22:10:00 - [3] Originally by: Helleena Justine The new Maller model isn't in 1.0? Nice catch. The thing with patch notes is that you stare at them so long that you get tunnel vision and miss really obvious things. It has now been added and Thank You Navigator Lead Community Representative CCP Hf, EVE Online

Mashie Saldana Minmatar Veto Corp	Posted - 2011.06.20 22:18:00 - [4] No more unprobable mission runners.
Smoking Blunts	Posted - 2011.06.20 22:23:00 - [5] Edited by: Smoking Blunts on 20/06/2011 22:23:50 couldnt find it in the list, so will ask we can turn QC off via do not load station environment like stated in the blog right?
Miska Cult	Posted - 2011.06.20 22:29:00 - [6] Quote: Tractor beams and salvagers now have their own turret models. Not that I'll need a turret slot for that salvager, right?
AVATAR AIDA Amarr Liberal Frontier Enterprises BricK sQuAD.	Posted - 2011.06.20 22:34:00 - [7] At fanfest, someone asked a dev about Captain's Quarters for POS's, the answer was no, but then a comment was made on how we will be able to change T3 subsystems at a POS. Don't see anything about that in the patch notes though... Is that not coming yet? ): Or was it accidentally forgotten in the notes?
Salpun Gallente Paramount Commerce	Posted - 2011.06.20 22:37:00 - [8] This the T3 stuff is in the next BFF patch like the warp to BM will be in there to.
J Kunjeh Gallente	Posted - 2011.06.20 22:48:00 - [9] Wow, quite the list. I'm very excited for this release! ~Gnosis~
Kon Deus	Posted - 2011.06.20 22:58:00 - [10] Sure... perhaps you can start another thread to try and keep the hype up and ignore the POST after POST of the player base telling you NO! Seems they all end the same. Update to patch the not yet launched update to fix what we updated to update to try and get more money cause we failed to update what you wanted updated and I failed to update my subscription.

Dnai Hsrang Caldari Cardinal Enterprises	Posted - 2011.06.20 22:59:00 - [11] Edited by: Dnai Hsrang on 20/06/2011 22:59:06 Why did you "enhance" the probe / exploration system without fixing the BM and clickable site issues that have repeatedly been discussed in the previous release feedback thread, bug reported and petitioned? You had the code open and didn't fix the bugs ... pure fail.
Soden Rah Gallente EVE University Ivy League	Posted - 2011.06.20 23:02:00 - [12] Originally by: patchnotes Ships All players logging into Tranquility will now have to create an avatar. You will not be able to proceed into game without one. FEATURES Captain's Quarters The Maller, an Amarr cruiser, has had a dramatic makeover and looks fantastic. Go buy one tomorrow and be the envy of all your friends. you may want to change the headings for these... creating an avatar has nothing to do with ships... and the Maller has nothing to do with CQ... just sayin.... Also, and this would be new... from SiSi testing there ARE a few known bugs that are due to be fixed in follow-up patches... it might be worth putting a known bugs list IN the patchnotes, so people are forewarned... And still waiting for the genius explanation that will justify the otherwise inexplicable decision to remove the old hanger view... -------- By Grfmsv÷tn, Eyjafjallaj÷kull, Vatnaj÷kull, and Hekla itself... THIS is my sig. Support Optional CQ
Ravcharas GREY COUNCIL Nulli Secunda	Posted - 2011.06.20 23:03:00 - [13] Did bookmarks on overview get pushed back again? :(
Smoking Blunts	Posted - 2011.06.20 23:04:00 - [14] Edited by: Smoking Blunts on 20/06/2011 23:04:42 Originally by: Smoking Blunts Edited by: Smoking Blunts on 20/06/2011 22:23:50 couldnt find it in the list, so will ask we can turn QC off via do not load station environment like stated in the blog right? i would like an answer to this. i have 8 accounts and there all pretty busy in and out of station. my pc is only 2 years old and more than 1 QC sucks the living **** out of it. so i would liek to know can i turn this off or do i need to cancell most of my accounts?
Soden Rah Gallente EVE University Ivy League	Posted - 2011.06.20 23:05:00 - [15] Originally by: Smoking Blunts Edited by: Smoking Blunts on 20/06/2011 22:23:50 couldnt find it in the list, so will ask we can turn QC off via do not load station environment like stated in the blog right? It is in the last SiSi build... technically the don't load station environment button is in TQ atm... it just doesn't load a different environment... so don't know if they left it out because of that? -------- By Grfmsv÷tn, Eyjafjallaj÷kull, Vatnaj÷kull, and Hekla itself... THIS is my sig. Support Optional CQ
Smoking Blunts	Posted - 2011.06.20 23:11:00 - [16] Originally by: Soden Rah Originally by: Smoking Blunts Edited by: Smoking Blunts on 20/06/2011 22:23:50 couldnt find it in the list, so will ask we can turn QC off via do not load station environment like stated in the blog right? It is in the last SiSi build... technically the don't load station environment button is in TQ atm... it just doesn't load a different environment... so don't know if they left it out because of that? thats good to know, not in patch notes so got worried. currently off work for 4 months so have lots of eve time. thought id have to go do something else for a moment them..lol
Soden Rah Gallente EVE University Ivy League	Posted - 2011.06.20 23:19:00 - [17] Edited by: Soden Rah on 20/06/2011 23:22:29 Well I won't be running CQ on TQ anyway, overheats my system, and forces me to shut down everything not eve, and only stay docked for a limited period of time... all for a loss of functionality, and immersion. So until I can have the old hanger back, CQ will stay disabled... If the option to disable it disappears... then leaving the game entirely becomes highly likely. Which would be sad... BTW my bring back the hanger petition just hit page 7... EDIT: oh for CCP.... In a couple of days time, when CQ is live for a bit, and people start trying out loads of different outfits... and they discover that the NCC Forces them to redo their portrait every time they change clothes (and Jump cloning forces you to change outfit) and noons portrait will stay the same for 10 minutes strait, and the image server starts crying... Remember we told you about this months ago, and you might want to start working on fixing this and writing the calming press release now... -------- By Grfmsv÷tn, Eyjafjallaj÷kull, Vatnaj÷kull, and Hekla itself... THIS is my sig. Support Optional CQ
Pardec Riker	Posted - 2011.06.20 23:19:00 - [18] No more unprobable ships equals Burn Eden tears :) Lets see if they and their NC(DOT) buddies can adapt their pimp ships to this new mechanic...unless of course they intend to sit snug in their Tech pos's
Izzy Alistair Amarr Hellfire Arms Service Rebel Alliance of New Eden	Posted - 2011.06.20 23:24:00 - [19] Originally by: Soden Rah Well I won't be running CQ on TQ anyway, overheats my system, and forces me to shut down everything not eve, and only stay docked for a limited period of time... all for a loss of functionality, and immersion. So until I can have the old hanger back, CQ will stay disabled... If the option to disable it disappears... then leaving the game entirely becomes highly likely. Which would be sad... BTW my bring back the hanger petition just hit page 7... I agree, I think Incarna is cool and all, but my computer just can't handle it, which is sad. I also can't afford a new computer, just to ward off any flamers that want to put scathing replies about me "whining". New maller hull looks cool though, can't wait for the turret effects too.
Vincent Athena	Posted - 2011.06.20 23:24:00 - [20] To all those with graphics card issues with CQ: Try turning "interior effects" to low and see if that helps. If its not enough, then hit that "do not load" button.

Smoking Blunts	Posted - 2011.06.20 23:27:00 - [21] supported your topic. dont like the fact that useless fluff spoils fuctionality of the double click for cargo. to name justa few things taht suck about QC hopefully tomorrow will see the do not load station fuction there, or ill have to drop down to at most 2 accounts
Izzy Alistair Amarr Hellfire Arms Service Rebel Alliance of New Eden	Posted - 2011.06.20 23:28:00 - [22] Originally by: Vincent Athena To all those with graphics card issues with CQ: Try turning "interior effects" to low and see if that helps. If its not enough, then hit that "do not load" button. Hmmm, I might have to try that.
Estep	Posted - 2011.06.20 23:31:00 - [23] what time is that in EST?
Soden Rah Gallente EVE University Ivy League	Posted - 2011.06.20 23:39:00 - [24] Originally by: Vincent Athena To all those with graphics card issues with CQ: Try turning "interior effects" to low and see if that helps. If its not enough, then hit that "do not load" button. I have been testing on ALL settings... I have a core 2 duo intel processor and Giggabyte GTX 460.... and on everything low or off I still overheat my GPU with my CPU running at 80~90% on both cores, just to stand still. my ave FPS goes from 20 to 30 by changing the settings but overheating happens either way. now if I went into CQ when I wanted to and didn't need my in space UI, then it might be ok... but as it happens every time we dock, and there is no content, and the new UI is fail... I am just not going to load it. CCP should provide separate settings for in space, and in Incarna... and they should find out what is nukeing my CPU/GPU... and they should put the damn hanger back... Till then I wont be using CQ on TQ. I will never be using the 'Noble (read money-grabbing) store' so, that is a total waste of time... And sad cos the 'free' outfits are pretty bad... -------- By Grfmsv÷tn, Eyjafjallaj÷kull, Vatnaj÷kull, and Hekla itself... THIS is my sig. Support Optional CQ
Cancel Align NOW	Posted - 2011.06.20 23:40:00 - [25] Quote: All players logging into Tranquility will now have to create an avatar. You will not be able to proceed into game without one. Stupid CCP.
Soden Rah Gallente EVE University Ivy League	Posted - 2011.06.20 23:42:00 - [26] Originally by: Estep what time is that in EST? bangs head on desk..... How can people not be able to work out time.... CCP gives everything in GMT+0=UTC If you can't manage to work out the difference between your time and CCP/EVE time then you are not intelligent enough to PLAY eve. use google, or your built in computer clock. -------- By Grfmsv÷tn, Eyjafjallaj÷kull, Vatnaj÷kull, and Hekla itself... THIS is my sig. Support Optional CQ
Cancel Align NOW	Posted - 2011.06.20 23:44:00 - [27] Quote: Error Throttling û the API will start to throttle third-party applications that generate a high number of preventable errors in a short period of time. This means better quality of service for everyone using the API. By generating a high number of preventable errors they mean: "has not paid $99"
Soden Rah Gallente EVE University Ivy League	Posted - 2011.06.20 23:45:00 - [28] Originally by: Cancel Align NOW Quote: All players logging into Tranquility will now have to create an avatar. You will not be able to proceed into game without one. Stupid CCP. well actually that's a perfectly logical result of forcing everyone to use CQ every time they dock... That is in itself stupid... But having done that, the requirement for everyone to make an avatar is essential... Of course if they kept the old hanger view they would simply need to make you get an avatar to enter CQ, not to play in space... So you could use that as your reason for supporting my petition (in my sig) for making CQ optional... -------- By Grfmsv÷tn, Eyjafjallaj÷kull, Vatnaj÷kull, and Hekla itself... THIS is my sig. Support Optional CQ
Awesome Possum Original Sin. PURPLE HELMETED WARRIORS	Posted - 2011.06.20 23:47:00 - [29] Quote: we can turn QC off via do not load station environment like stated in the blog right? Quote: we can turn QC off via do not load station environment like stated in the blog right? Quote: we can turn QC off via do not load station environment like stated in the blog right? demand this gets answered ♥
Cancel Align NOW	Posted - 2011.06.20 23:48:00 - [30] Quote: Sentry drones such as Garde, Curator and Warden were missing their firing animations. Thanks to the new turret system we can now witness their destructive power. Want to crash node? Have you 30+ supers launch their 15+ sentries and your sub cap fleet in drakes.

Izzy Alistair Amarr Hellfire Arms Service Rebel Alliance of New Eden	Posted - 2011.06.20 23:50:00 - [31] Originally by: Awesome Possum Quote: we can turn QC off via do not load station environment like stated in the blog right? Quote: we can turn QC off via do not load station environment like stated in the blog right? Quote: we can turn QC off via do not load station environment like stated in the blog right? demand this gets answered I swear to god I'll get everyone I know in all of they're accounts (100+ accounts) to spam this if this question does not get answered.
Soden Rah Gallente EVE University Ivy League	Posted - 2011.06.20 23:52:00 - [32] Originally by: Awesome Possum Quote: we can turn QC off via do not load station environment like stated in the blog right? Quote: we can turn QC off via do not load station environment like stated in the blog right? Quote: we can turn QC off via do not load station environment like stated in the blog right? demand this gets answered Current SiSi build includes this option. Current SiSi build includes this option. Current SiSi build includes this option. -------- By Grfmsv÷tn, Eyjafjallaj÷kull, Vatnaj÷kull, and Hekla itself... THIS is my sig. Support Optional CQ
Izzy Alistair Amarr Hellfire Arms Service Rebel Alliance of New Eden	Posted - 2011.06.20 23:54:00 - [33] So if it's in the Sisi build then it will for sure be in the patch on TQ?
Soden Rah Gallente EVE University Ivy League	Posted - 2011.06.20 23:57:00 - [34] Originally by: Izzy Alistair So if it's in the Sisi build then it will for sure be in the patch on TQ? well they wrote an entire (pointless, information-less, missed the point) devblog about having this button, and put it into the SiSi build, and have kept it ever since... So I would be exceedingly surprised if the last minute changes between the last test build and the final release build include removing this button... they might break it by accident, but they are unlikely to remove it. -------- By Grfmsv÷tn, Eyjafjallaj÷kull, Vatnaj÷kull, and Hekla itself... THIS is my sig. Support Optional CQ
Cancel Align NOW	Posted - 2011.06.20 23:57:00 - [35] Originally by: Izzy Alistair So if it's in the Sisi build then it will for sure be in the patch on TQ? Probably not.
Izzy Alistair Amarr Hellfire Arms Service Rebel Alliance of New Eden	Posted - 2011.06.20 23:59:00 - [36] Originally by: Soden Rah Originally by: Izzy Alistair So if it's in the Sisi build then it will for sure be in the patch on TQ? well they wrote an entire (pointless, information-less, missed the point) devblog about having this button, and put it into the SiSi build, and have kept it ever since... So I would be exceedingly surprised if the last minute changes between the last test build and the final release build include removing this button... they might break it by accident, but they are unlikely to remove it. I know it was in the dev blog, but I thought that it would be in the patch notes if it was feature.
Mynas Atoch Eternity INC. Goonswarm Federation	Posted - 2011.06.21 00:03:00 - [37] Awww .. poor Burn Eden need to find a new gimmick that won't be fixed for two years.
Soden Rah Gallente EVE University Ivy League	Posted - 2011.06.21 00:04:00 - [38] I don't think they believe that being able to disable their new baby that they are trying to cram down our throats is a 'feature'... also the button already exists on TQ, the only time it didn't was on early test builds of Incarna, till we yelled at them a lot. They totally missed the point of the yelling, and haven't answered/fixed the central issue. But the flames from them going back on their word and removing this band aid would be spectacular... and I think they think they have had enough bad pr the past few weeks... -------- By Grfmsv÷tn, Eyjafjallaj÷kull, Vatnaj÷kull, and Hekla itself... THIS is my sig. Support Optional CQ
Sokkerdino	Posted - 2011.06.21 00:07:00 - [39] Originally by: Awesome Possum Quote: we can turn QC off via do not load station environment like stated in the blog right? Quote: we can turn QC off via do not load station environment like stated in the blog right? Quote: we can turn QC off via do not load station environment like stated in the blog right? demand this gets answered
Soden Rah Gallente EVE University Ivy League	Posted - 2011.06.21 00:10:00 - [40] This is going to be a long night.... for ccp. I am going to bed... see you all on Wednesday... next month... -------- By Grfmsv÷tn, Eyjafjallaj÷kull, Vatnaj÷kull, and Hekla itself... THIS is my sig. Support Optional CQ

Hockston Axe Amarr	Posted - 2011.06.21 00:18:00 - [41] Originally by: Soden Rah Originally by: Estep what time is that in EST? bangs head on desk..... How can people not be able to work out time.... CCP gives everything in GMT+0=UTC If you can't manage to work out the difference between your time and CCP/EVE time then you are not intelligent enough to PLAY eve. use google, or your built in computer clock. subtracting 4 is hard apparently... Seriously though, what's the deal with the hardwiring thing, what if somebody has a hardwire plugged in that they no longer have the skill to plug in?
Minsc Gallente Alpha Empire	Posted - 2011.06.21 00:26:00 - [42] Originally by: Soden Rah Originally by: Vincent Athena To all those with graphics card issues with CQ: Try turning "interior effects" to low and see if that helps. If its not enough, then hit that "do not load" button. I have been testing on ALL settings... I have a core 2 duo intel processor and Giggabyte GTX 460.... and on everything low or off I still overheat my GPU with my CPU running at 80~90% on both cores, just to stand still. my ave FPS goes from 20 to 30 by changing the settings but overheating happens either way. now if I went into CQ when I wanted to and didn't need my in space UI, then it might be ok... but as it happens every time we dock, and there is no content, and the new UI is fail... I am just not going to load it. CCP should provide separate settings for in space, and in Incarna... and they should find out what is nukeing my CPU/GPU... and they should put the damn hanger back... Till then I wont be using CQ on TQ. I will never be using the 'Noble (read money-grabbing) store' so, that is a total waste of time... And sad cos the 'free' outfits are pretty bad... I don't honestly know what's wrong with your system but I'm running a core2duo 3ghz and a gtx285 and I get 60 fps in CQ and my gpu runs at normal running temperature. Which drivers are you running? What brand of card? Have you messed with any fan control settings? It doesn't make sense for your card, which should be more powerfull than mine to give lower performance.
Bl4ck Ph03n1x	Posted - 2011.06.21 00:29:00 - [43] Wow patchnote. This is what i call a patch. Maybe you don't do enough for the bigs broken stuffs, but... woot fixing little bugs. Don't stop now, CCP. ps: and watch the market carefully, after the aurum deployment.You DON'T WANT a plex price explosion.
Kytayn Gallente Kronos TEchnologies	Posted - 2011.06.21 00:44:00 - [44] Originally by: Hockston Axe Originally by: Soden Rah Originally by: Estep what time is that in EST? bangs head on desk..... How can people not be able to work out time.... CCP gives everything in GMT+0=UTC If you can't manage to work out the difference between your time and CCP/EVE time then you are not intelligent enough to PLAY eve. use google, or your built in computer clock. subtracting 4 is hard apparently... Well, technically, he asked about EST, which is -5. Those of us in the Eastern U.S. time zone are currently in EDT (Eastern Daylight Time) which is -4.
Noleai	Posted - 2011.06.21 00:51:00 - [45] Looking at the patch notes "Grouped-weapons have been optimized to further increase their performance gain compared to ungrouped weapons.", what performance gain do they currently have other than firing at the same time if grouped, and what's the new performance gain?
Leon Razor Gallente	Posted - 2011.06.21 01:11:00 - [46] Originally by: Noleai Looking at the patch notes "Grouped-weapons have been optimized to further increase their performance gain compared to un-grouped weapons.", what performance gain do they currently have other than firing at the same time if grouped, and what's the new performance gain? I think the way it works is that grouped weapons fire as a single unit, so what ever overhead is involved with firing all your guns is reduced to a single event. For small fights this isn't much, but imagine 1000 Battleships x 8 Guns = 8000 events per cycle vs 1000 events per cycle with grouped weapons.
Kim Aumer	Posted - 2011.06.21 01:12:00 - [47] Now for the next patch, come on guys, let us choose icon sizes for items. They are so big right now and take up too much space.
Reilly Duvolle	Posted - 2011.06.21 01:16:00 - [48] So... do we get 4 racial CQ as promised.... or just the minmatar one for all stations? Sisis buld has never shown the other 3 races so I assume the last, but to my knowledge CCP has never acknowledged that the other 3 would be delayed.

CCP Masterplan C C P Alliance	Posted - 2011.06.21 01:17:00 - [49] Edited by: CCP Masterplan on 21/06/2011 01:24:04 Originally by: Leon Razor Originally by: Noleai Looking at the patch notes "Grouped-weapons have been optimized to further increase their performance gain compared to un-grouped weapons.", what performance gain do they currently have other than firing at the same time if grouped, and what's the new performance gain? I think the way it works is that grouped weapons fire as a single unit, so what ever overhead is involved with firing all your guns is reduced to a single event. For small fights this isn't much, but imagine 1000 Battleships x 8 Guns = 8000 events per cycle vs 1000 events per cycle with grouped weapons. Grouped weapons previously made some savings by doing things like combined aggression/damage checks. I did some changes to extend that out to also combining the client updates that show you when someone is firing. Now instead of sending everyone on the grid 8 individual network messages like: "turret 1 on ship X is firing at ship Y", "turret 2 on ship X is firing at ship Y"... it now sends one network message saying "turrets 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8 on ship X are firing at ship Y" Edit: So yes, Leon is basically correct -- Team Gridlock: Herding electronic cats since 2010 Herding drunken players since FF 2011

Tango Cainne TERRIBLE EMO ALTS REGIME	Posted - 2011.06.21 01:20:00 - [50] Looking under ships, am I correct in seeing that, as on SiSi, they still haven't fixed the Nightmare's turrets? I guess two turrets will still be sharing a single hardpoint. It's funny that Incursions broke this, where the Nightmare is one of the visual centerpieces of the expansion, and here we are on our next expansion and it's not fixed yet. As someone previously said, having the code open and not fixing = fail.

Mister Rocknrolla	Posted - 2011.06.21 01:55:00 - [51] ~~Technically~~ This is an "expansion" not a "patch."
Pace eGuerra Gallente Blunted Affect Inc.	Posted - 2011.06.21 02:17:00 - [52] Originally by: Minsc I don't honestly know what's wrong with your system but I'm running a core2duo 3ghz and a gtx285 and I get 60 fps in CQ and my gpu runs at normal running temperature. Which drivers are you running? What brand of card? Have you messed with any fan control settings? It doesn't make sense for your card, which should be more powerfull than mine to give lower performance. Yeah. I have a similar problem and it's definitely not a performance issue. It's a crappy cooling issue. The combined PSU, CPU, RAM, GPU and other component heat generation isn't handled well enough by my system so when I enter CQ on full quality my GPU fan goes crazy. It's easy to put that down to a performance issue but as you say, it's more about the combined heat generation vs cooling effectiveness. For me, this sort of problem started when I built a new wide desk and neglected to ensure enough air movement around the outside of the box. So now my water cooled quad core beast sounds like a plane in takeoff if I use CQ on full quality. For me, it's definitely NOT the software, just a simple airflow issue. Incarna will finally get me off my butt to fix the problem. :)
Selnix Gallente North Eastern Swat Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2011.06.21 02:18:00 - [53] @Navigator Since it was blatantly disregarded in the first blog comments thread which indicated CCP's intent to prevent ships from being incapable of being probed down I would like to ask this again... Will you change the bonuses of the Tech III Warfare Processor subsystems to allow the ships to fit some semblance of a tank whilst running their links? I think that a snapshot of TQ would find that 90% of T3s which have command links fitted are running 2-3 of them and that this requires a T3 to be fitted with the majority of their low slots housing co-processors and their mids partially filled with command processors. If T3s are to be brought back onto the battlefield they need to be more than a 15k EHP pinata. This is an easy fix as well... Role Bonus: 99% reduction in Warfare Link module CPU need. Can use 3 Warfare Link modules simultaneously.
Jonak Demarsk	Posted - 2011.06.21 02:23:00 - [54] Has the problem with t3 ships being able to jump through a covert cyno been fixed yet? I don't intend to invest in t tech untill it is :-D
PDS001Sniper Caldari State Protectorate	Posted - 2011.06.21 02:39:00 - [55] too bad the dev didnt fix the Nightmare battleship's missing turret bug # CPU brand: Phenomx4 II 965 3.71Ghz # Motherboard: ASUS M4A78T-E # Memory: Mushkin Enhanced 4G DDR3 1333 # Video card: EVGA GTX 295 CO-OP # Operating system: Windows 7 Home 64-Bit
stoicfaux Gallente	Posted - 2011.06.21 02:51:00 - [56] Quote: Drones now take area-of-effect damage from mission entities. Does that mean NPCs now have smart bombs? Or does it mean that exploding things such as the Pleasure Gardens will now damage drones? Also, good patch notes, just wish they were out sooner. And kudos on the plethora of non-CQ fixes, tweaks, and additions. ----- "Are you a sociopathic paranoid schizophrenic with accounting skills? We have the game for you! -- Eve, the game of Alts, Economics, Machiavelli, and PvP"
Kemhotep	Posted - 2011.06.21 02:53:00 - [57] Quote: All players logging into Tranquility will now have to create an avatar. You will not be able to proceed into game without one. **** you.
Joe Space Pod Liberation Authority	Posted - 2011.06.21 03:07:00 - [58] Quote: It is no longer possible to set up a ship to be impervious to scanning while uncloaked. I think this is an excellent change! It hurts me pretty bad personally. I have two accounts that can each run 3 of the 4 unprobable T3s. That's a decent amount of training time and a lot of isk sunk into ships and fits that will need big adjustments. This will definitely make it more difficult for us small gang types. Nevertheless, the change does far more good than bad. Imho, unprobable sniper BS, unprobable mission runners, and even unprobable links are bad for the game. So I welcome this change. There is, however, one problem I foresee. Links can still be run out of POS. In my experience, the systems where gate camps are most prevalent are systems where the campers have POS. Being able to run T3 links out of POS (and, therefore, out of harms way) is a pretty big advantage. What I propose is that links are made so that they do not work within POS shields. This will force the campers to run links with the same risks as the gangs that come to fight them.
Djakku Pod Liberation Authority HYDRA RELOADED	Posted - 2011.06.21 03:09:00 - [59] Originally by: Joe Space Quote: It is no longer possible to set up a ship to be impervious to scanning while uncloaked. I think this is an excellent change! It hurts me pretty bad personally. I have two accounts that can each run 3 of the 4 unprobable T3s. That's a decent amount of training time and a lot of isk sunk into ships and fits that will need big adjustments. This will definitely make it more difficult for us small gang types. Nevertheless, the change does far more good than bad. Imho, unprobable sniper BS, unprobable mission runners, and even unprobable links are bad for the game. So I welcome this change. There is, however, one problem I foresee. Links can still be run out of POS. In my experience, the systems where gate camps are most prevalent are systems where the campers have POS. Being able to run T3 links out of POS (and, therefore, out of harms way) is a pretty big advantage. What I propose is that links are made so that they do not work within POS shields. This will force the campers to run links with the same risks as the gangs that come to fight them. Supported. This is not a signature.
Hyssar	Posted - 2011.06.21 03:10:00 - [60] Originally by: Joe Space Quote: It is no longer possible to set up a ship to be impervious to scanning while uncloaked. I think this is an excellent change! It hurts me pretty bad personally. I have two accounts that can each run 3 of the 4 unprobable T3s. That's a decent amount of training time and a lot of isk sunk into ships and fits that will need big adjustments. This will definitely make it more difficult for us small gang types. Nevertheless, the change does far more good than bad. Imho, unprobable sniper BS, unprobable mission runners, and even unprobable links are bad for the game. So I welcome this change. There is, however, one problem I foresee. Links can still be run out of POS. In my experience, the systems where gate camps are most prevalent are systems where the campers have POS. Being able to run T3 links out of POS (and, therefore, out of harms way) is a pretty big advantage. What I propose is that links are made so that they do not work within POS shields. This will force the campers to run links with the same risks as the gangs that come to fight them. Supporting this as well.

Selnix Gallente North Eastern Swat Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2011.06.21 03:10:00 - [61] Originally by: stoicfaux Quote: Drones now take area-of-effect damage from mission entities. Does that mean NPCs now have smart bombs? Or does it mean that exploding things such as the Pleasure Gardens will now damage drones? I expect this means that Ishtars and Gilas are now further nerfed for running complexes, given that AOE damage is triggered often in the plexes as a structure hits a given HP level and the drones are generally the dealers of damage which activate this trigger for those vessels.
Djanger	Posted - 2011.06.21 03:14:00 - [62] Is there any way to download patch before Incarna will be deployed? I have slow internet connection and will take about 2-3 hours to download 700+ Mb patch.
LOL CYBERKNIGHTS	Posted - 2011.06.21 03:16:00 - [63] Originally by: Joe Space Quote: It is no longer possible to set up a ship to be impervious to scanning while uncloaked. I think this is an excellent change! It hurts me pretty bad personally. I have two accounts that can each run 3 of the 4 unprobable T3s. That's a decent amount of training time and a lot of isk sunk into ships and fits that will need big adjustments. This will definitely make it more difficult for us small gang types. Nevertheless, the change does far more good than bad. Imho, unprobable sniper BS, unprobable mission runners, and even unprobable links are bad for the game. So I welcome this change. There is, however, one problem I foresee. Links can still be run out of POS. In my experience, the systems where gate camps are most prevalent are systems where the campers have POS. Being able to run T3 links out of POS (and, therefore, out of harms way) is a pretty big advantage. What I propose is that links are made so that they do not work within POS shields. This will force the campers to run links with the same risks as the gangs that come to fight them. Suported!!!
Si'ren Genos Occidere HYDRA RELOADED	Posted - 2011.06.21 03:23:00 - [64] Originally by: Joe Space [quote What I propose is that links are made so that they do not work within POS shields. This will force the campers to run links with the same risks as the gangs that come to fight them. Would be a great addition to the change to unprobeable ships!! Please look into Joe's suggestion!
JerseyBOI 2 Pod Liberation Authority	Posted - 2011.06.21 03:39:00 - [65] Edited by: JerseyBOI 2 on 21/06/2011 03:40:22 Thank you CCP. You continue stamp out mechanics assisting small gangs. Did it ever occur to you that most of the 0.0 entry systems where, lets face it, the pvp is at, that your blobs that you help foster with your foolish assertion that extremely large fleets are the pinnacle of pvp and the most fun (they're not), almost always have links running in a POS invulnerable to bolster their 50+ man gangs and the only way for smaller gangs to counter these fleets is to use an unprobable link ship? Once again your scope of what effects your nerfs has on the game fails. STOP BEING BAD. Figure out a way to fight BOTS, fix your game breaking moon goo bottle neck (you went from moon bottle neck to region bottle neck, good job), and stop taking people out of space with bullsh$t in station fashion shows.
JerseyBOI 2 Pod Liberation Authority	Posted - 2011.06.21 03:46:00 - [66] Oh, and BTW, the 1 jump bridge per system is too little too late. And BTW its not enough of a nerf
john roe BearingPoint	Posted - 2011.06.21 03:55:00 - [67] if this whole Barbies in space (CQ) cant be turn off then i am going from 7 accounts to 1-2 top, cccp. seriously. you went too far in your madness.
Orian NiKunni Orian's EvE Communications	Posted - 2011.06.21 03:58:00 - [68] Edited by: Orian NiKunni on 21/06/2011 04:00:16 Originally by: Selnix @Navigator If T3s are to be brought back onto the battlefield they need to be more than a 15k EHP pinata. This is an easy fix as well... You are aware that the t3 cruisers are still CRUISERS, not battle cruisers right? Stop your ****ing whining
TheLastZmeul Caldari	Posted - 2011.06.21 04:17:00 - [69] Originally by: Cancel Align NOW Quote: Sentry drones such as Garde, Curator and Warden were missing their firing animations. Thanks to the new turret system we can now witness their destructive power. Want to crash node? Have you 30+ supers launch their 15+ sentries and your sub cap fleet in drakes. as far as I understand, turret fire effects are localized to client side and not affecting server side of things
Apollo Gabriel Brotherhood Of Fallen Angels Etherium Cartel	Posted - 2011.06.21 04:36:00 - [70] I like Incarna and I subscribe to Eve. Thank you CCP! AG *** Signature may appear without warning! *** Please do not feed the trolls, it builds dependency.

Aineko Macx	Posted - 2011.06.21 05:02:00 - [71] Originally by: Selnix @Navigator Since it was blatantly disregarded in the first blog comments thread which indicated CCP's intent to prevent ships from being incapable of being probed down I would like to ask this again... Will you change the bonuses of the Tech III Warfare Processor subsystems to allow the ships to fit some semblance of a tank whilst running their links? I think that a snapshot of TQ would find that 90% of T3s which have command links fitted are running 2-3 of them and that this requires a T3 to be fitted with the majority of their low slots housing co-processors and their mids partially filled with command processors. If T3s are to be brought back onto the battlefield they need to be more than a 15k EHP pinata. This is an easy fix as well... Role Bonus: 99% reduction in Warfare Link module CPU need. Can use 3 Warfare Link modules simultaneously. I somewhat disagree. It's bad enough already they allowed T3s to perform in the niche that was previously the last thing exclusive to fleet command ships. Originally by: Selnix Originally by: stoicfaux Quote: Drones now take area-of-effect damage from mission entities. Does that mean NPCs now have smart bombs? Or does it mean that exploding things such as the Pleasure Gardens will now damage drones? I expect this means that Ishtars and Gilas are now further nerfed for running complexes, given that AOE damage is triggered often in the plexes as a structure hits a given HP level and the drones are generally the dealers of damage which activate this trigger for those vessels. Yeah, that's ****ed, as if drone boats weren't already handicapped enough. ________________________ CCP: Where fixing bugs is a luxury, not an obligation.
Kalpel Caldari United Systems of the Allegiance Important Internet Spaceship League	Posted - 2011.06.21 05:03:00 - [72] The number of jamming NPCs in over 75 Caldari and Gurista sites has been re-balanced. Please warp into danger to find out more. What about the perma jamming belt rats?
Misunderstood Genius	Posted - 2011.06.21 05:23:00 - [73] Originally by: Si'ren Originally by: Joe Space [quote What I propose is that links are made so that they do not work within POS shields. This will force the campers to run links with the same risks as the gangs that come to fight them. Would be a great addition to the change to unprobeable ships!! Please look into Joe's suggestion! Makes sense but will not change the situation much. The ship will just stay close to the shield and move inside when a bigger fleet comes to "scare" it at the POS.
Ayieka Caldari	Posted - 2011.06.21 05:28:00 - [74] Quote: SSAO is disabled on all video cards except NVIDIA cards. ILR is disabled on Windows XP machines that use ATI GPUÆs. Depth effects on Macs with ATI cards are disabled. could we get a reason as to why AMD/ATI gets kinda shafted in this update?
Vantaanya	Posted - 2011.06.21 05:40:00 - [75] Edited by: Vantaanya on 21/06/2011 05:43:03 Edited by: Vantaanya on 21/06/2011 05:40:54 Ok, I'm sure I'm going to take some flack for posting this (as I have not read whole thread, do not have time to) but here goes.... The current time is; 05:37 UTC/GMT Incarna is to be deployed at 07:00 hours UTC/GMT, yet http://www.eveonline.com/en/incarna countdown is at 7+hrs. On the in-game calender it is set for 05:00 UTC. I need to know when it will be on/offline. Not trying to be an ass CCP. <3 EVE Is it somehow just me who's seeing this discrepency? Or should I put the bottle down...
Big Business1	Posted - 2011.06.21 06:00:00 - [76] Originally by: Tango Cainne Looking under ships, am I correct in seeing that, as on SiSi, they still haven't fixed the Nightmare's turrets? I guess two turrets will still be sharing a single hardpoint. It's funny that Incursions broke this, where the Nightmare is one of the visual centerpieces of the expansion, and here we are on our next expansion and it's not fixed yet. As someone previously said, having the code open and not fixing = fail. Not o talk about revelation and co
Thorsten Kabrinski Multiversal Enterprise Inc.	Posted - 2011.06.21 06:01:00 - [77] OMG what a was of time this release is. Sorry to all the developers. CCP needs to get a clue, i have 4 accounts 1 with over 140 million skill points another with 130 million and have been playing a long long time. I have stopped playing because you have pushed this game to utter boredom!! largest fleet wins, if the fleets are too big node crashes etc, bring back the ability to have small groups have lots of fun fighting all the time.... easily or quickly. Make this game something that does not require hours of labor for 1 possible battle! Please ccp make this game fun again!! hm....need a new sig :p
Big Business1	Posted - 2011.06.21 06:04:00 - [78] Originally by: Tango Cainne Looking under ships, am I correct in seeing that, as on SiSi, they still haven't fixed the Nightmare's turrets? I guess two turrets will still be sharing a single hardpoint. It's funny that Incursions broke this, where the Nightmare is one of the visual centerpieces of the expansion, and here we are on our next expansion and it's not fixed yet. As someone previously said, having the code open and not fixing = fail. What about revelation having turrets everywhere else than on their place?
Rolix FallenOne	Posted - 2011.06.21 06:35:00 - [79] Originally by: Ayieka Quote: SSAO is disabled on all video cards except NVIDIA cards. ILR is disabled on Windows XP machines that use ATI GPUÆs. Depth effects on Macs with ATI cards are disabled. could we get a reason as to why AMD/ATI gets kinda shafted in this update? Totally same question, i have totally amazing graphic card ATI HD 6950 and now you just turn settings off? I can't call this anything else then NVIDIA marketing.
Melisandra Palenis	Posted - 2011.06.21 06:43:00 - [80] So to sum up we are getting 1. A room to walk around in by ourselves 2. New turret animations 3. Some clothes to show to ourselves 4. A new currency to buy the above mentioned clothes 5. Another new player experience package 6. Some bug fixes 7. Newish graphics for some old ships Hmmmm...... EVE is a spaceship game wasn't it? Shouldn't there be some *new* spaceships........ Seems to be a large patch or a very small expansion. Was really hoping for content with this.....


Chribba Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire	Posted - 2011.06.21 06:44:00 - [81] Posting in a thread. Good luck today. /c Secure 3rd party service \| in-game 'Holy Veldspar' Now /w voice

Nilt	Posted - 2011.06.21 06:45:00 - [82] Just wanted to throw another "Good luck and thanks" to CCP. I, for one, support CQ and think it's not a bad thing. Hope to be back online on time! (Hey, we can dream!)
Joy Mongaguarda Caldari Brasfleet Networking Co.	Posted - 2011.06.21 06:47:00 - [83] People asking CCP to make the game less boring. People complaining about performance issues. People asking CCP to make CQ disable feature because it loads graphics, has no meaning in an MMO -RPG- (that is my favorite). People complaining other problems arent being solved because of the work in CQ. There is one major solution for all of this: Make CQ unavoidable, and very costy in terms of machine. Doing so, all the previous mentioned people really leave the game, and the people who bought their computer in this decade, and play MMO -RPG- because they like MMO -RPG- will be able to have a better game. My PC has around 2.5 years in my use, and still run 4 EVE instances at ease, and I havent upgraded this PC EVER. I agree EVE is boring lately, and it is boring because you cant really feel the excitement of being part of EVE universe because it has many "reality checks" to enable old pcs, button smashers and general whiners play it. About time EVE as a scifi MMORPG, started to gather SciFi fans and not WoW dropouts counting "arena ratings"(killboards) and bragging knowing it all and not knowing why you cant have a draenei warlock. A hint: EVE has became boring, among other reasons, preciselly because many of its players started ignoring the EVE universe and started making EVE "pew pew in space".
Liberty Eternal	Posted - 2011.06.21 07:06:00 - [84] Are we there yet?
Kiri Ghostrunner	Posted - 2011.06.21 10:19:00 - [85] Originally by: CCP It is no longer possible to set up a ship to be impervious to scanning while uncloaked. All probes can now contribute to a scan result, as opposed to the previous limit of four. Hmm ... I wonder how hard it will be to probe out the old 'unprobeable' setups ...
John Zorg Caldari The Damned Legion	Posted - 2011.06.21 10:19:00 - [86] Nothing in the patch notes about the super changes? Was mentioned in the AT discussions. Guess it's coming later?
Lee Anderson Eternal Profiteers	Posted - 2011.06.21 10:20:00 - [87] Originally by: Kiri Ghostrunner Originally by: CCP It is no longer possible to set up a ship to be impervious to scanning while uncloaked. All probes can now contribute to a scan result, as opposed to the previous limit of four. Hmm ... I wonder how hard it will be to probe out the old 'unprobeable' setups ... Guess you will have to find out ------------------------------------------ My site http://www.mygamerbook.com
Juni Sato	Posted - 2011.06.21 10:34:00 - [88] Originally by: LOL CYBERKNIGHTS Originally by: Joe Space Quote: It is no longer possible to set up a ship to be impervious to scanning while uncloaked. I think this is an excellent change! It hurts me pretty bad personally. I have two accounts that can each run 3 of the 4 unprobable T3s. That's a decent amount of training time and a lot of isk sunk into ships and fits that will need big adjustments. This will definitely make it more difficult for us small gang types. Nevertheless, the change does far more good than bad. Imho, unprobable sniper BS, unprobable mission runners, and even unprobable links are bad for the game. So I welcome this change. There is, however, one problem I foresee. Links can still be run out of POS. In my experience, the systems where gate camps are most prevalent are systems where the campers have POS. Being able to run T3 links out of POS (and, therefore, out of harms way) is a pretty big advantage. What I propose is that links are made so that they do not work within POS shields. This will force the campers to run links with the same risks as the gangs that come to fight them. Suported!!! Suported! But please give us poor little t3 booster alts time to train CS first :P
Ebisu Kami	Posted - 2011.06.21 10:37:00 - [89] Originally by: Ayieka Quote: SSAO is disabled on all video cards except NVIDIA cards. ILR is disabled on Windows XP machines that use ATI GPUÆs. Depth effects on Macs with ATI cards are disabled. could we get a reason as to why AMD/ATI gets kinda shafted in this update? Would like to know more as well o/
Sofia Kyodai Caldari Black Aces Mining Div AAA Citizens	Posted - 2011.06.21 10:44:00 - [90] more to the point when we going to get PLEX FOR REMAP? ________________________________________________ ~I might, but i'm too bored to bother....

Belid Hagen Resilience. Northern Coalition.	Posted - 2011.06.21 10:46:00 - [91] Edited by: Belid Hagen on 21/06/2011 10:46:54 Edited by: Belid Hagen on 21/06/2011 10:46:05 Originally by: Orian NiKunni Edited by: Orian NiKunni on 21/06/2011 04:00:16 Originally by: Selnix @Navigator If T3s are to be brought back onto the battlefield they need to be more than a 15k EHP pinata. This is an easy fix as well... You are aware that the t3 cruisers are still CRUISERS, not battle cruisers right? Stop your ****ing whining a) when were T3's not on the battlefield? b) fleet fit T3's can easily get 115k EHP, the same amount as most standard fleet abaddons c) both of you stop failing at EVE
dark dreamur	Posted - 2011.06.21 10:49:00 - [92] OMG!! total fail, you are already patching the patch that hasnt even been launched yet, i got a good idea: why dont you just write decent code to start with
Ravcharas GREY COUNCIL Nulli Secunda	Posted - 2011.06.21 10:51:00 - [93] Originally by: Ebisu Kami Originally by: Ayieka Quote: SSAO is disabled on all video cards except NVIDIA cards. ILR is disabled on Windows XP machines that use ATI GPUÆs. Depth effects on Macs with ATI cards are disabled. could we get a reason as to why AMD/ATI gets kinda shafted in this update? Would like to know more as well o/ I don't even know what ILR is. But I do know that nvidia is the way it's meant to be played. I learned that from watching eve tv.
Magic Crisp Minmatar	Posted - 2011.06.21 10:52:00 - [94] Dear CCP, May I ask what's the status of the following bugs, because I haven't found any clues in the patch notes: - Mouseovering a bookmark in the solarsystem view doesn't show its name (it used to be working) - Fixing the default focus for the location dialog at new remote buyorders (it should be on the input box, and not on the OK button) - PI usually loads white polygons instead of the installation since like january - Rorquals are still unable to start jobs from their ORE bays, at least this one is known to you, and important to all rorq pilots in the game - Finishing the new Autopilot interface. Many have asked for a "Promote to waypoint" feature on the rclick menu on a system. - T3 fitting at a POS/space fit service - Fixing covert T3s for covert jump bridges Just to list the more recent and important ones. When will we get fixes for these issues?
Captain Stroke Slaganfall Flytt AB	Posted - 2011.06.21 10:55:00 - [95] Originally by: Patch notes *Captain's Quarters* The Maller, an Amarr cruiser, has had a dramatic makeover and looks fantastic. Go buy one tomorrow and be the envy of all your friends. Captains quarters, really?
Magic Crisp Minmatar	Posted - 2011.06.21 10:57:00 - [96] Originally by: Captain Stroke Originally by: Patch notes *Captain's Quarters* The Maller, an Amarr cruiser, has had a dramatic makeover and looks fantastic. Go buy one tomorrow and be the envy of all your friends. Captains quarters, really? Yeah, you can view your ship in CQ. Obviously, the new model is only for the CQ viewer :)
Thorn Galen Gallente The Scope	Posted - 2011.06.21 10:57:00 - [97] To Chribba. Dude, please don't let the 3rd party monetizing thing get to you. Your site(s) are awesome as are your Eve apps, I'd be much the poorer information and game-wise without them. Wait for the smoke to dissapear and see what the end results are. You might even find it's not all as bad as the original Dev blog tried to explain. Without you and other 3rd-party Eve app and website developers, this world will be a darker place. Bows and Respects To CCP. Awaiting the CQ release with excitement - yet I have a tinge of panic if I think that every time I dock I have to leave my ship. Please let this be a simple, selectable option "leave ship when docking". I know it was on the test server with some talk of it not being in the release today. This is my one major gripes I will have with the release of CQ. As for the rest of it, I will love it, but please make "unpodding" an option when docking. Please. Pretty please. Greets & grins To CCP #2 I too have some rather poor bandwidth at my disposal. Please make the patch available sooner rather than later this evening ? Thorn Galen, over and out. Et cognitus, ergo et sum. Therefore I am, I think. (Drunken Yoda version) Am I thinking? (Very drunk Yoda version)
taque	Posted - 2011.06.21 10:58:00 - [98] i just hope that the update is worth the downtime. i also hope a lot of bugs will not appear again. still i am a little dissapointed that it's still impossible to change modules on a t3 ship in a POS and it really sucks there is no ability to repackage items in a POS. especially when i want to carry out ships from a POS it is really annoying i can't just because the ship was accidently assembled. it can't be undone so it collects dust now as my mainchar can't fly it lol. but seriously, THAT is stuff i am looking for in a patch. it may be just something small, but it does improve my gameplay so much and it doesn't hurt the existing gameplay/mechanics in anyway. as for the first step of walking into stations...if someone like it then that's ok. i will not use it and don't even feel the need. it's just a sidestep to meet the future players that now play WOW and other MMORPG games maybe. i hope EVE will not loose its very own atmosphere and identity. If CCP ignores the majority of the players and show a lack of commitment towards us then they might feel it soon enough in their pocket. as for the forums..lots of bawwing and probably no ccp-er does even read half of the dozens of pages. good luck ccp.
JC Anderson Caldari Noir. Noir. Mercenary Group	Posted - 2011.06.21 11:00:00 - [99] Originally by: Smoking Blunts Edited by: Smoking Blunts on 20/06/2011 23:04:42 Originally by: Smoking Blunts Edited by: Smoking Blunts on 20/06/2011 22:23:50 couldnt find it in the list, so will ask we can turn QC off via do not load station environment like stated in the blog right? i would like an answer to this. i have 8 accounts and there all pretty busy in and out of station. my pc is only 2 years old and more than 1 QC sucks the living ** out of it. so i would liek to know can i turn this off or do i need to cancell most of my accounts? If it is in the build, don't be surprised if the option goes away fairly soon. :( From what Zulu said, it's only temporary to ease in transition. Originally by:** CCP Zulu For the sake of a smooth transition we therefore decided to temporarily add the option to not load the Incarna interiors while stilll retaining full access to all options and menus.
Darwen Gallente Global Economy Experts	Posted - 2011.06.21 11:01:00 - [100] http://content.eveonline.com/evepremiumpatch267203-271273_m.exe build 267203 (current) to 271273 (Incarna) ----------------------------------------------- You don't realize how fun mining is until you've depleted your millionth roid. Not that I've done that.

AnarchistUK	Posted - 2011.06.21 11:01:00 - [101] Originally by: Mynas Atoch Awww .. poor Burn Eden need to find a new gimmick that won't be fixed for two years. haha exactly what I thought
John Zorg Caldari The Damned Legion	Posted - 2011.06.21 11:03:00 - [102] Originally by: Magic Crisp Dear CCP, May I ask what's the status of the following bugs, because I haven't found any clues in the patch notes: - Mouseovering a bookmark in the solarsystem view doesn't show its name (it used to be working) - Fixing the default focus for the location dialog at new remote buyorders (it should be on the input box, and not on the OK button) - PI usually loads white polygons instead of the installation since like january - Rorquals are still unable to start jobs from their ORE bays, at least this one is known to you, and important to all rorq pilots in the game - Finishing the new Autopilot interface. Many have asked for a "Promote to waypoint" feature on the rclick menu on a system. - T3 fitting at a POS/space fit service - Fixing covert T3s for covert jump bridges Just to list the more recent and important ones. When will we get fixes for these issues? Whats wrong with "Fixing covert T3s for covert jump bridges". Works fine for me?
Lord Okinaba Zero Patrol	Posted - 2011.06.21 11:05:00 - [103] So do we get access to all racial CQs or just the Minmatars?
Borengar Eistiras	Posted - 2011.06.21 11:08:00 - [104] Quote: It is no longer possible to set up a ship to be impervious to scanning while uncloaked. Not supporting this at all. This will probably force me to stop flying Lv5 missions. Or maybe flying them in PvP ships.
Ravcharas GREY COUNCIL Nulli Secunda	Posted - 2011.06.21 11:08:00 - [105] Did bookmarks in the overview get pushed back again?
Ste'ven Sch'orik Gallente	Posted - 2011.06.21 11:11:00 - [106] Incarna in SiSi is causing my gpu to overheat severely even when just flying around or in warp whereas on TQ before this expansion my gpu was not overheating. I run on lowest graphical settings on both servers but Incarna is causing greater strain even though there is no increase in graphical quality. What the heck is going on? ________________________________________________ Roses are red and violets are blue, you shoot at me and you will die too.
Count'Dus LIGHTS 0UT Gypsy Band	Posted - 2011.06.21 11:13:00 - [107] Quote: SSAO is disabled on all video cards except NVIDIA cards. ILR is disabled on Windows XP machines that use ATI GPUÆs. Depth effects on Macs with ATI cards are disabled. CCP, almost 50% gamers in the world using ATI cards. You are playing the fool with them. With you subscribers. Why? -- ~ gypsy inside ~
brutorans Minmatar V I R I I Merciless.	Posted - 2011.06.21 11:14:00 - [108] Originally by: Pardec Riker No more unprobable ships equals Burn Eden tears :) Lets see if they and their NC(DOT) buddies can adapt their pimp ships to this new mechanic...unless of course they intend to sit snug in their Tech pos's Confirming we will sit in our tech towers feeling smug.
IGuardian Internet Guardians Corp Internet Guardians	Posted - 2011.06.21 11:17:00 - [109] There is a typo in the html of the patchnotes: /li> should be </li> Corporation & Alliance War bills are correctly attributed in the wallet journal. Fixed the word filtering in the medal creation process so that you can now create non-offensive decorations. Adverts will now update instantly in the 'My Corporation' field of the Recruitment tab following creation./li> ------------------------------ Internet Guardians Leader
Worrff	Posted - 2011.06.21 11:19:00 - [110] Originally by: CCP Masterplan Edited by: CCP Masterplan on 21/06/2011 01:24:04 Originally by: Leon Razor Originally by: Noleai Looking at the patch notes "Grouped-weapons have been optimized to further increase their performance gain compared to un-grouped weapons.", what performance gain do they currently have other than firing at the same time if grouped, and what's the new performance gain? I think the way it works is that grouped weapons fire as a single unit, so what ever overhead is involved with firing all your guns is reduced to a single event. For small fights this isn't much, but imagine 1000 Battleships x 8 Guns = 8000 events per cycle vs 1000 events per cycle with grouped weapons. Grouped weapons previously made some savings by doing things like combined aggression/damage checks. I did some changes to extend that out to also combining the client updates that show you when someone is firing. Now instead of sending everyone on the grid 8 individual network messages like: "turret 1 on ship X is firing at ship Y", "turret 2 on ship X is firing at ship Y"... it now sends one network message saying "turrets 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8 on ship X are firing at ship Y" Edit: So yes, Leon is basically correct Nice to see that CCP do read these threads. Unfortunately, they choose to answer the easy questions and totally ignore the one that pretty much everyone has been asking..... Why not keep the old hanger and introduce a "Leave ship" button ?? Any chance of an answer to that one ?

Thorn Galen Gallente The Scope	Posted - 2011.06.21 11:20:00 - [111] Originally by: Darwen http://content.eveonline.com/evepremiumpatch267203-271273_m.exe build 267203 (current) to 271273 (Incarna) Thank you very much, Darwen. Much appreciated. Cheers, Thorn. Et cognitus, ergo et sum. Therefore I am, I think. (Drunken Yoda version) Am I thinking? (Very drunk Yoda version)
Del orian Betrugers Invention Stiftung	Posted - 2011.06.21 11:27:00 - [112] Waht happened to the new Nebulae ?
j731	Posted - 2011.06.21 11:28:00 - [113] The big day. Good luck guys, you've worked hard for a long time on this huge step in the evolution of EVE. I hope everything goes smooth for you.
Joseph1st	Posted - 2011.06.21 11:30:00 - [114] I see alot of ppl talking about this hangar view. When in CQ is there not a window that you can look out onto your ship in hangar? If there isnt there should be. Would also be awsome to have a nice big window to look out of station into space.
Griskar	Posted - 2011.06.21 11:35:00 - [115] I really like that an Client Update #1 is available - and the 1.0 client isn't released yet.. arg.. ;-)
Shooter McGavvin	Posted - 2011.06.21 11:39:00 - [116] Originally by: Joseph1st I see alot of ppl talking about this hangar view. When in CQ is there not a window that you can look out onto your ship in hangar? If there isnt there should be. Would also be awsome to have a nice big window to look out of station into space. There's a door and stairway you go down to look out at your docked (and open) pod as well as your ship. There is also a small holographic projector in your room showing your ship.
screvset	Posted - 2011.06.21 11:39:00 - [117] Edited by: screvset on 21/06/2011 11:41:29 If ones client gives the version no as 6. 45.269296 (267203), can we assume that the client is up-to-date, or that in fact we need to update it? The bracketed number is whats confusing me. Does it indicated there is a newer version, or that it has been patched, or is an optional client patch?
Ockeghem	Posted - 2011.06.21 11:42:00 - [118] Edited by: Ockeghem on 21/06/2011 11:43:18 It is no longer possible to set up a ship to be impervious to scanning while uncloaked. Nooooo... This was a single reason I cross-trained for Tengu and T2 heavy missiles, not to mention buying and selling PLEX for real money a few days ago to be able to afford this... Weren't unscannable ships gimped enough? A month of training now is a waste. Luckily, I haven't bought the ship and modules yet.
wilkins1950	Posted - 2011.06.21 11:42:00 - [119] congrats on finally getting CQ to tranquility although i do have 1 question if CQ is avalibel in all stations would there be a different design for say the sansha and pirate faction stations or will they just be using one of the 4 main empires CQ instead
Temai Gallente	Posted - 2011.06.21 11:43:00 - [120] YaY the new update is here and its my B-Day Woot best gift Ever!! keep up the good work CCP :P All players logging into Tranquility will now have to create an avatar. <-- about time its annoying seeing facless people everywhere Row Row Fight The Power - Libera Me

Ivanna Nuke Gallente Holders Of The Cowbell	Posted - 2011.06.21 11:43:00 - [121] Originally by: Ockeghem It is no longer possible to set up a ship to be impervious to scanning while uncloaked. Nooooo... This was a single reason I cross-trained for Tengu and T2 heavy missiles, not to mention buying and selling PLEX for real money a few days ago to be able to afford this... Weren't unscannable ships gimped enough? Nope now they're ****ed
Sister Sandiego	Posted - 2011.06.21 11:44:00 - [122] WHY CANT WE DOWNLOAD THE PATCH NOW SO WE ARE PREPARED WHEN THE SERVER GOES LIVE? I'm going back to bed and WAIT another 4 hours till the download is available
Stealthgun	Posted - 2011.06.21 11:44:00 - [123] Edited by: Stealthgun on 21/06/2011 11:45:31 For everyone who wants the patch allready: http://content.eveonline.com/evepremiumpatch267203-271273_m.exe Patch is 741MB, this is the windows patch.
Dako Semi	Posted - 2011.06.21 11:44:00 - [124] Originally by: j731 The big day. Good luck guys, you've worked hard for a long time on this huge step in the evolution of EVE. I hope everything goes smooth for you. This kind of posts i like Also from me i hope all go's simple and easy for you. o/ Dako
Agent 42 Gallente RADIO RAMPAGE	Posted - 2011.06.21 11:45:00 - [125] Drones taking area of effect dmg in missions is a **** idea.
Ivanna Nuke Gallente Holders Of The Cowbell	Posted - 2011.06.21 11:46:00 - [126] Originally by: Agent 42 Drones taking area of effect dmg in missions is a **** idea. It be more realistic bro
Haruki Tekitsu	Posted - 2011.06.21 11:46:00 - [127] Well theres some concerns here. I doubt very much if CCP anyone is reading this thread. but even though I wont be using the micro charge clothing game and wont be thrilled as a little schoolgirl on her birthday about walking or sitting in a room all on my lonesome with candy bars and quafe tins on a shelf. As long as you dont dumb down eve to the level of other MMORPG ( its the hard inteligence factor that appeals to most of us and keeps the, dare I say it, idiot troll disruptive kiddies out)Good luck and I'll give it a go with an open mind.
Stealthgun	Posted - 2011.06.21 11:49:00 - [128] Mac patch: http://content.eveonline.com/mac/evepremiumpatch267203-271273-mac.tgz this file is 927mb, enjoy.
Haruka Ovaert	Posted - 2011.06.21 11:53:00 - [129] Originally by: Soden Rah Originally by: Estep what time is that in EST? bangs head on desk..... How can people not be able to work out time.... CCP gives everything in GMT+0=UTC If you can't manage to work out the difference between your time and CCP/EVE time then you are not intelligent enough to PLAY eve. use google, or your built in computer clock. UTC is not GMT +0 .. i live in a GMT +1 time zone and EVE time is 2hours behind mine Anyways im looking foreward to this expansion (or the part of the whole expansion they bringing out now). Haven't tried it on the SiSi server so it will all be a new experience for me. Fingers crossed for minimal issues! :)
Dives Armenicus	Posted - 2011.06.21 11:54:00 - [130] can anyone explain what does this mean? "Factional Warfare NPCs now care about defending against their allies enemies"

Jason Deloran	Posted - 2011.06.21 11:55:00 - [131] Edited by: Jason Deloran on 21/06/2011 11:55:49 Originally by: Haruka Ovaert (...) UTC is not GMT +0 .. i live in a GMT +1 time zone and EVE time is 2hours behind mine (...) Neither GMT nor UTC have summer dayligtht saving - so you're at GMT+1 plus 1 for summer time.
Tamika Colian Federal Defence Union	Posted - 2011.06.21 11:57:00 - [132] I am looking forward to Incarna. All these changes en fixes plus, ofcourse, the new features are extremely positive at my point of view.
Frankie iCoRy	Posted - 2011.06.21 11:59:00 - [133] Scanning òIt is no longer possible to set up a ship to be impervious to scanning while uncloaked. whoever's ideea was this should be killed every time they enter in low sec and all the ECCM modules should be removed from the game cause they are useless now! thank you ccp for what?
Khamelean	Posted - 2011.06.21 12:00:00 - [134] Needs more Cowbell... But seriously, congrats CCP, a lot of blood and sweat has clearly gone into laying the foundations for this code, I for one look forward to seeing it all come to fruition in the near/distant future :)
Frankie iCoRy	Posted - 2011.06.21 12:01:00 - [135] Originally by: Mashie Saldana No more unprobable mission runners. .i.
Ivanna Nuke Gallente Holders Of The Cowbell	Posted - 2011.06.21 12:03:00 - [136] Originally by: Frankie iCoRy Scanning òIt is no longer possible to set up a ship to be impervious to scanning while uncloaked. whoever's ideea was this should be killed every time they enter in low sec and all the ECCM modules should be removed from the game cause they are useless now! thank you ccp for what? Making it so you can be hunted and slaughtered and run sites with some risk now
Jack Deloran	Posted - 2011.06.21 12:04:00 - [137] Originally by: Frankie iCoRy Scanning òIt is no longer possible to set up a ship to be impervious to scanning while uncloaked. whoever's ideea was this should be killed every time they enter in low sec and all the ECCM modules should be removed from the game cause they are useless now! thank you ccp for what? As far as I know ECCM is "Electronic Counter Counter Measures" - so from the name of it one could deduce that its function is to Counter ECM (Electronic Counter Measures). It still fullfills this role. Also a scanning drone isn't really an Electronic Counter Measure, is it? I think the change is good as it is.
Kanako Wakabayashi	Posted - 2011.06.21 12:07:00 - [138] Patch Notes don't say anything about stopping me from selling "Pirate issue ravens" to nubs\o/ let the isk roll!
Argus Kell Gallente Blackwatch Highlanders	Posted - 2011.06.21 12:07:00 - [139] I'm excited about Incarna and looking forward to the direction the game is taking. I also love the Eve Universe and love FPS so I'm dead excited about Dust 514 coming on on the PS3 end of this year. Just two questions though; Why are ATI cards not getting ambient occlusion and what is ILR? Argus
crymyname	Posted - 2011.06.21 12:08:00 - [140] i don't want a station i'm hardly ever in ..!! the only reason its there is so ******s can walk round jerking each other off and ccp can make more money from them ... then we have nvida buying its way in and telling ccp not to code for amd/ati .. when ati is the better card .. already seen storys of nvida cards burning up ...lol rant over ...

Ivanna Nuke Gallente Holders Of The Cowbell	Posted - 2011.06.21 12:08:00 - [141] Originally by: Argus Kell I'm excited about Incarna and looking forward to the direction the game is taking. I also love the Eve Universe and love FPS so I'm dead excited about Dust 514 coming on on the PS3 end of this year. Just two questions though; Why are ATI cards not getting ambient occlusion and what is ILR? Argus Because CCP are Pro Nvidia and doing it as a marketing ploy to make eye candy fanatics rush out to buy an Nvidia card.
Irongut Sex Money Guns	Posted - 2011.06.21 12:08:00 - [142] Originally by: Haruka Ovaert Originally by: Soden Rah Originally by: Estep what time is that in EST? bangs head on desk..... How can people not be able to work out time.... CCP gives everything in GMT+0=UTC If you can't manage to work out the difference between your time and CCP/EVE time then you are not intelligent enough to PLAY eve. use google, or your built in computer clock. UTC is not GMT +0 .. i live in a GMT +1 time zone and EVE time is 2hours behind mine UTC is GMT+0, your country is currently in Summer time but UTC does not have Summer time. Amazing how many people have problems with this. The Duality releases of CQ just did not work at all on my work PC, admitedly it does have a crappy video card atm. Hoping it will be ok on my home PC and the new card I just bought for my work PC will solve the problems there. Glad I've only got two accounts though, I'm betting CQ is going to be a nightmare for anyome with more than two.
Frankie iCoRy	Posted - 2011.06.21 12:10:00 - [143] Originally by: JerseyBOI 2 Edited by: JerseyBOI 2 on 21/06/2011 03:40:22 Thank you CCP. You continue stamp out mechanics assisting small gangs. Did it ever occur to you that most of the 0.0 entry systems where, lets face it, the pvp is at, that your blobs that you help foster with your foolish assertion that extremely large fleets are the pinnacle of pvp and the most fun (they're not), almost always have links running in a POS invulnerable to bolster their 50+ man gangs and the only way for smaller gangs to counter these fleets is to use an unprobable link ship? Once again your scope of what effects your nerfs has on the game fails. STOP BEING BAD. Figure out a way to fight BOTS, fix your game breaking moon goo bottle neck (you went from moon bottle neck to region bottle neck, good job), and stop taking people out of space with bullsh$t in station fashion shows. agree (where the **** is the thumbs up )
Jeneral Jane	Posted - 2011.06.21 12:11:00 - [144] Originally by: Joe Space What I propose is that links are made so that they do not work within POS shields. Supported for even moar carebear tears from null-sec carebears who boost from their Rorqual's behind POS shields.
Argus Kell Gallente Blackwatch Highlanders	Posted - 2011.06.21 12:11:00 - [145] Originally by: Ivanna Nuke Originally by: Argus Kell I'm excited about Incarna and looking forward to the direction the game is taking. I also love the Eve Universe and love FPS so I'm dead excited about Dust 514 coming on on the PS3 end of this year. Just two questions though; Why are ATI cards not getting ambient occlusion and what is ILR? Argus Because CCP are Pro Nvidia and doing it as a marketing ploy to make eye candy fanatics rush out to buy an Nvidia card. If thats true that it takes the mick a bit. Are there any blogs about it?
Irongut Sex Money Guns	Posted - 2011.06.21 12:13:00 - [146] Originally by: Frankie iCoRy Scanning òIt is no longer possible to set up a ship to be impervious to scanning while uncloaked. whoever's ideea was this should be killed every time they enter in low sec and all the ECCM modules should be removed from the game cause they are useless now! thank you ccp for what? ECCM mods are designed to counter ECM. You were abusing them and the CCPolice have stopped you because you shouldn't abuse little modules you nasty ECCMophile!
Clementine A Caldari	Posted - 2011.06.21 12:16:00 - [147] When will the patch be available for download ??
Strider Hiryu Kangaroos With Frickin Lazerbeams The KWFL Republic	Posted - 2011.06.21 12:17:00 - [148] Originally by: JerseyBOI 2 Edited by: JerseyBOI 2 on 21/06/2011 03:40:22 Thank you CCP. You continue stamp out mechanics assisting small gangs. Did it ever occur to you that most of the 0.0 entry systems where, lets face it, the pvp is at, that your blobs that you help foster with your foolish assertion that extremely large fleets are the pinnacle of pvp and the most fun (they're not), almost always have links running in a POS invulnerable to bolster their 50+ man gangs and the only way for smaller gangs to counter these fleets is to use an unprobable link ship? Once again your scope of what effects your nerfs has on the game fails. STOP BEING BAD. Figure out a way to fight BOTS, fix your game breaking moon goo bottle neck (you went from moon bottle neck to region bottle neck, good job), and stop taking people out of space with bullsh$t in station fashion shows. SUPPORTED GET THIS MAN ON CSM! I like beer and cheese...
Ivanna Nuke Gallente Holders Of The Cowbell	Posted - 2011.06.21 12:18:00 - [149] Originally by: Argus Kell Originally by: Ivanna Nuke Originally by: Argus Kell I'm excited about Incarna and looking forward to the direction the game is taking. I also love the Eve Universe and love FPS so I'm dead excited about Dust 514 coming on on the PS3 end of this year. Just two questions though; Why are ATI cards not getting ambient occlusion and what is ILR? Argus Because CCP are Pro Nvidia and doing it as a marketing ploy to make eye candy fanatics rush out to buy an Nvidia card. If thats true that it takes the mick a bit. Are there any blogs about it? During fanfest they pimped how Nvidia was helping them in many ways with EvE eye candy, recent drops to ATi just show they are aiming towards it being "made for Nvidia" which is more like "Engineered to Nvidia"
Frankie iCoRy	Posted - 2011.06.21 12:18:00 - [150] Originally by: Borengar Eistiras Quote: It is no longer possible to set up a ship to be impervious to scanning while uncloaked. Not supporting this at all. This will probably force me to stop flying Lv5 missions. Or maybe flying them in PvP ships. flying them in pvp setups is a fail

Xarissa de Tolnos	Posted - 2011.06.21 12:19:00 - [151] I've already got a 3D avatar created with incursion, but I had to move my desktop downstairs and plug it into net for 2 hrs while I did so (my laptop was unable to handle carbon character creation) now, it's currently stored at my parents, am I going to have to create a new toon (which my lappy won't be able to manage) or can I use the 'old' one from incursion (which I like anyway)?
IronFe	Posted - 2011.06.21 12:19:00 - [152] Originally by: Argus Kell Originally by: Ivanna Nuke Originally by: Argus Kell I'm excited about Incarna and looking forward to the direction the game is taking. I also love the Eve Universe and love FPS so I'm dead excited about Dust 514 coming on on the PS3 end of this year. Just two questions though; Why are ATI cards not getting ambient occlusion and what is ILR? Argus Because CCP are Pro Nvidia and doing it as a marketing ploy to make eye candy fanatics rush out to buy an Nvidia card. If thats true that it takes the mick a bit. Are there any blogs about it? CCCP encouraged to buy a new graphics card from evga (nvidia) and when you login the first time you see " The Way It's Meant to Be Played "
Thom Baron Caldari Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2011.06.21 12:21:00 - [153] Hmm, guess I'm not gonna be able to play anymore? Unless the incarna client lets me use the character creator without my computer freezing newish pvp pilot looking for a corp! (9m SP)
Stealthgun	Posted - 2011.06.21 12:21:00 - [154] Originally by: Clementine A When will the patch be available for download ?? it is allready: windows: http://content.eveonline.com/evepremiumpatch267203-271273_m.exe mac: http://content.eveonline.com/mac/evepremiumpatch267203-271273-mac.tgz
Frankie iCoRy	Posted - 2011.06.21 12:22:00 - [155] Originally by: Ivanna Nuke Originally by: Frankie iCoRy Scanning òIt is no longer possible to set up a ship to be impervious to scanning while uncloaked. whoever's ideea was this should be killed every time they enter in low sec and all the ECCM modules should be removed from the game cause they are useless now! thank you ccp for what? i hope you realised what nonsense you are talking Making it so you can be hunted and slaughtered and run sites with some risk now
Ivanna Nuke Gallente Holders Of The Cowbell	Posted - 2011.06.21 12:22:00 - [156] Originally by: IronFe Originally by: Argus Kell Originally by: Ivanna Nuke Originally by: Argus Kell I'm excited about Incarna and looking forward to the direction the game is taking. I also love the Eve Universe and love FPS so I'm dead excited about Dust 514 coming on on the PS3 end of this year. Just two questions though; Why are ATI cards not getting ambient occlusion and what is ILR? Argus Because CCP are Pro Nvidia and doing it as a marketing ploy to make eye candy fanatics rush out to buy an Nvidia card. If thats true that it takes the mick a bit. Are there any blogs about it? CCCP encouraged to buy a new graphics card from evga (nvidia) and when you login the first time you see " The Way It's Meant to Be Played " Well I am pro ATi on my desktop and iMac I have coming, should CCP push out ATi totally ( I doubt this ) then sod it, plenty other games to enjoy in the world.
Clementine A Caldari	Posted - 2011.06.21 12:23:00 - [157] Originally by: Stealthgun Originally by: Clementine A When will the patch be available for download ?? it is allready: windows: http://content.eveonline.com/evepremiumpatch267203-271273_m.exe mac: http://content.eveonline.com/mac/evepremiumpatch267203-271273-mac.tgz Official ? :)
Stealthgun	Posted - 2011.06.21 12:24:00 - [158] Originally by: Clementine A Originally by: Stealthgun Originally by: Clementine A When will the patch be available for download ?? it is allready: windows: http://content.eveonline.com/evepremiumpatch267203-271273_m.exe mac: http://content.eveonline.com/mac/evepremiumpatch267203-271273-mac.tgz Official ? :) yes
Strider Hiryu Kangaroos With Frickin Lazerbeams The KWFL Republic	Posted - 2011.06.21 12:25:00 - [159] Originally by: Strider Hiryu Originally by: JerseyBOI 2 Edited by: JerseyBOI 2 on 21/06/2011 03:40:22 Thank you CCP. You continue stamp out mechanics assisting small gangs. Did it ever occur to you that most of the 0.0 entry systems where, lets face it, the pvp is at, that your blobs that you help foster with your foolish assertion that extremely large fleets are the pinnacle of pvp and the most fun (they're not), almost always have links running in a POS invulnerable to bolster their 50+ man gangs and the only way for smaller gangs to counter these fleets is to use an unprobable link ship? Once again your scope of what effects your nerfs has on the game fails. STOP BEING BAD. Figure out a way to fight BOTS, fix your game breaking moon goo bottle neck (you went from moon bottle neck to region bottle neck, good job), and stop taking people out of space with bullsh$t in station fashion shows. SUPPORTED GET THIS MAN ON CSM! STOP THE BLOB FESTS I like beer and cheese...
Frelird	Posted - 2011.06.21 12:26:00 - [160] "It is no longer possible to set up a ship to be impervious to scanning while uncloaked." Super...are all the chars that trained max leadership and T3 skills for buff-bots going to get their SP refunded? I think not...it's a good change but now I I got 10 mill more or less useless SP...

Frankie iCoRy	Posted - 2011.06.21 12:26:00 - [161] Originally by: Irongut Originally by: Frankie iCoRy Scanning òIt is no longer possible to set up a ship to be impervious to scanning while uncloaked. whoever's ideea was this should be killed every time they enter in low sec and all the ECCM modules should be removed from the game cause they are useless now! thank you ccp for what? ECCM mods are designed to counter ECM. You were abusing them and the CCPolice have stopped you because you shouldn't abuse little modules you nasty ECCMophile! sorry but an idiot allert apeared on my screen while you posted this
freshman2 Kangaroos With Frickin Lazerbeams The KWFL Republic	Posted - 2011.06.21 12:27:00 - [162] Edited by: freshman2 on 21/06/2011 12:27:47 Originally by: Strider Hiryu Originally by: Strider Hiryu Originally by: JerseyBOI 2 Edited by: JerseyBOI 2 on 21/06/2011 03:40:22 Thank you CCP. You continue stamp out mechanics assisting small gangs. Did it ever occur to you that most of the 0.0 entry systems where, lets face it, the pvp is at, that your blobs that you help foster with your foolish assertion that extremely large fleets are the pinnacle of pvp and the most fun (they're not), almost always have links running in a POS invulnerable to bolster their 50+ man gangs and the only way for smaller gangs to counter these fleets is to use an unprobable link ship? Once again your scope of what effects your nerfs has on the game fails. STOP BEING BAD. Figure out a way to fight BOTS, fix your game breaking moon goo bottle neck (you went from moon bottle neck to region bottle neck, good job), and stop taking people out of space with bullsh$t in station fashion shows. SUPPORTED GET THIS MAN ON CSM! STOP THE BLOB FESTS stop taking people out of space with bullsh$t in station fashion shows!!!!!!!!!!!!!! q1
Ivanna Nuke Gallente Holders Of The Cowbell	Posted - 2011.06.21 12:28:00 - [163] Originally by: Frankie iCoRy Originally by: Irongut Originally by: Frankie iCoRy Scanning òIt is no longer possible to set up a ship to be impervious to scanning while uncloaked. whoever's ideea was this should be killed every time they enter in low sec and all the ECCM modules should be removed from the game cause they are useless now! thank you ccp for what? ECCM mods are designed to counter ECM. You were abusing them and the CCPolice have stopped you because you shouldn't abuse little modules you nasty ECCMophile! sorry but an idiot allert apeared on my screen while you posted this Cry more.
Frankie iCoRy	Posted - 2011.06.21 12:28:00 - [164] Originally by: brutorans Originally by: Pardec Riker No more unprobable ships equals Burn Eden tears :) Lets see if they and their NC(DOT) buddies can adapt their pimp ships to this new mechanic...unless of course they intend to sit snug in their Tech pos's Confirming we will sit in our tech towers feeling smug.
slarti fast Amarr	Posted - 2011.06.21 12:30:00 - [165] Originally by: Stealthgun Mac patch: http://content.eveonline.com/mac/evepremiumpatch267203-271273-mac.tgz this file is 927mb, enjoy. cool. cheers
Samuel Wess	Posted - 2011.06.21 12:30:00 - [166] So i will have to disable station environment every time i want to pvp/pve in space and dock/undock fast! That means always going into options and reloading graphics, and replacing the current hangar view with an odd wallpaper! I guess .... thank you very much ? Marketing sais: force them to use CQ so they spend money on CQ stuff. me
jackk O'neil	Posted - 2011.06.21 12:31:00 - [167] I can't wait for this today, But i have to ask has/will the minimum spec to run eve incarna changed from last night as i play this on my laptop with no probs at all.
Sheila Shenrose	Posted - 2011.06.21 12:32:00 - [168] many thanks to those supplying the expansion download link before its available through the client. did anyone find out the link to the newest patch (Client Update # 1 for Incarna) already?
NaK'Lin	Posted - 2011.06.21 12:32:00 - [169] Originally by: Haruka Ovaert Originally by: Soden Rah Originally by: Estep what time is that in EST? bangs head on desk..... How can people not be able to work out time.... CCP gives everything in GMT+0=UTC If you can't manage to work out the difference between your time and CCP/EVE time then you are not intelligent enough to PLAY eve. use google, or your built in computer clock. UTC is not GMT +0 .. i live in a GMT +1 time zone and EVE time is 2hours behind mine Anyways im looking foreward to this expansion (or the part of the whole expansion they bringing out now). Haven't tried it on the SiSi server so it will all be a new experience for me. Fingers crossed for minimal issues! :) I wonder how many people should not sleep in school / smoke less weed / read more instead of playing games only / simply get a decent general knowledge and base education. My dear Haruka, Could it be (and I am just shooting in the dark here, wild guess and all) that it being SUMMER right now, your country has adjusted to DST changes and is using summer time? In that case, wouldn't that make it +1 hour and thus your GMT+0 to GMT+1 time difference would be increased by one hour? 1 hour difference + 1 more hour difference = 2 hours difference You might have noticed that EvE (as well as some countries) does not adopt summer / winter time changes. UTC is also not something CCP has invented (unless they didn't mean "UTC"). I dislike quoting wikipedia links, but apparently thinking is not a predominant activity here, and whining is so much easier. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coordinated_Universal_Time --NaK
A HOBO's Pet	Posted - 2011.06.21 12:32:00 - [170] òWindows from Incursion 1.6.1 to Incarna 1.0 is 757 MB 757 MB of more unwanted crap! Fix the bugs that are already riddling this game before introducing more!!!!

Alabugin	Posted - 2011.06.21 12:33:00 - [171] Quote: It is no longer possible to set up a ship to be impervious to scanning while uncloaked. This really needed to be done. I live in NPC Curse space - and I tell you it is **ing rediculous that you can have loki/tengu running around happily in Curse doing lvl 4 missions carefree in 0.0 making 100mISK/hr. Feel that ***es? Those are my probes...and something else too
Nadya Lena Twilight Federation	Posted - 2011.06.21 12:33:00 - [172] What exactly are the "several important issues" that the client update addresses anyway?
Bart Fast	Posted - 2011.06.21 12:35:00 - [173] Originally by: Thom Baron Edited by: Thom Baron on 21/06/2011 12:27:32 Hmm, guess I'm not gonna be able to play anymore? Unless the incarna client lets me use the character creator without my computer freezing.. By the way, CCP can you just tell us straight up rather than make us figure it out... Will the mac patch fail like all the previous major version patches have? Fail?? Really, never had a mac patch fail.... always worked fine, just bigger than windows which is a pita....
Rolix FallenOne	Posted - 2011.06.21 12:35:00 - [174] Originally by: Ivanna Nuke Originally by: IronFe Originally by: Argus Kell Originally by: Ivanna Nuke Because CCP are Pro Nvidia and doing it as a marketing ploy to make eye candy fanatics rush out to buy an Nvidia card. If thats true that it takes the mick a bit. Are there any blogs about it? CCCP encouraged to buy a new graphics card from evga (nvidia) and when you login the first time you see " The Way It's Meant to Be Played " Well I am pro ATi on my desktop and iMac I have coming, should CCP push out ATi totally ( I doubt this ) then sod it, plenty other games to enjoy in the world. I'm ATI card user, too, and in my opinion there isn't any difference in hardware between manufacturers (Nvidia, ATI). Only difference is software, like Physx and so on. Games shouldn't be like this, fighting hardware wars for manufacturers. If this game gets to the point it will be needed to use Nvidia graphic card to get good performance, i'll leave.
Alabugin	Posted - 2011.06.21 12:37:00 - [175] Quote: Thank you CCP. You continue stamp out mechanics assisting small gangs. Did it ever occur to you that most of the 0.0 entry systems where, lets face it, the pvp is at, that your blobs that you help foster with your foolish assertion that extremely large fleets are the pinnacle of pvp and the most fun (they're not), almost always have links running in a POS invulnerable to bolster their 50+ man gangs and the only way for smaller gangs to counter these fleets is to use an unprobable link ship? Once again your scope of what effects your nerfs has on the game fails. STOP BEING BAD. Figure out a way to fight BOTS, fix your game breaking moon goo bottle neck (you went from moon bottle neck to region bottle neck, good job), and stop taking people out of space with bullsh$t in station fashion shows. Get a **ing command ship and a real FC and stop ing ***ing. We all know 1 t3 boosting waste of an alt will not help you combat the blob - only thing that does is good piloting and finding their mistakes. Best Combat for blob? 20 man drake fleet with logi, curse, lachesis and claymore support.
Bethamene	Posted - 2011.06.21 12:37:00 - [176] Originally by: Alabugin Quote: It is no longer possible to set up a ship to be impervious to scanning while uncloaked. This really needed to be done. I live in NPC Curse space - and I tell you it is **ing rediculous that you can have loki/tengu running around happily in Curse doing lvl 4 missions carefree in 0.0 making 100mISK/hr. Feel that ***es? Those are my probes...and something else too cry more
Bubbles Udan	Posted - 2011.06.21 12:38:00 - [177] Originally by: Alabugin Quote: It is no longer possible to set up a ship to be impervious to scanning while uncloaked. This really needed to be done. I live in NPC Curse space - and I tell you it is **ing rediculous that you can have loki/tengu running around happily in Curse doing lvl 4 missions carefree in 0.0 making 100mISK/hr. Feel that ***es? Those are my probes...and something else too I always thought it was weird you couldn't just probe the wrecks/npcs by the mission runners, oh well doesn't matter now hehe.
Not Very Happy	Posted - 2011.06.21 12:39:00 - [178] Edited by: Not Very Happy on 21/06/2011 12:40:15 Originally by: Xarissa de Tolnos I've already got a 3D avatar created with incursion, but I had to move my desktop downstairs and plug it into net for 2 hrs while I did so (my laptop was unable to handle carbon character creation) now, it's currently stored at my parents, am I going to have to create a new toon (which my lappy won't be able to manage) or can I use the 'old' one from incursion (which I like anyway)? I thought this was for people who don't have avatars yet. so having one already, you wont have to worry about it.
Amun Khonsu Royal Order of Security Specialists	Posted - 2011.06.21 12:39:00 - [179] Edited by: Amun Khonsu on 21/06/2011 12:41:07 Originally by: freshman2 Edited by: freshman2 on 21/06/2011 12:27:47 Originally by: Strider Hiryu Originally by: Strider Hiryu Originally by: JerseyBOI 2 Edited by: JerseyBOI 2 on 21/06/2011 03:40:22 Thank you CCP. You continue stamp out mechanics assisting small gangs. Did it ever occur to you that most of the 0.0 entry systems where, lets face it, the pvp is at, that your blobs that you help foster with your foolish assertion that extremely large fleets are the pinnacle of pvp and the most fun (they're not), almost always have links running in a POS invulnerable to bolster their 50+ man gangs and the only way for smaller gangs to counter these fleets is to use an unprobable link ship? Once again your scope of what effects your nerfs has on the game fails. STOP BEING BAD. Figure out a way to fight BOTS, fix your game breaking moon goo bottle neck (you went from moon bottle neck to region bottle neck, good job), and stop taking people out of space with bullsh$t in station fashion shows. SUPPORTED GET THIS MAN ON CSM! STOP THE BLOB FESTS stop taking people out of space with bullsh$t in station fashion shows!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Stop all the moaning. You ****ants have been pestering CCP for walk-in stations for years. Now that they are doing it, you're whining. You are playing one of the best mmo's on the net. If you dont like it, why play? perhaps that will help fight lag if your whining isnt heard on the server anymore. stfu already. Fight them until turmoil is no more and strike terror into their hearts.
Nadya Lena Twilight Federation	Posted - 2011.06.21 12:41:00 - [180] Originally by: Rolix FallenOne I'm ATI card user, too, and in my opinion there isn't any difference in hardware between manufacturers (Nvidia, ATI). There is, but most of the difference is in how they do GPGPU. Just look at what everyone is using to mine bitcoin. Originally by: Rolix FallenOne Only difference is software And this is by far the most important difference. ATI were not known for their driver quality and only now AMD is trying to recover from it. For at least a decade games have had to include ATI-specific workarounds because some feature would break on their drivers and wouldn't get fixed (alternatively it could also be bad graphics hardware design, which would disprove your previous point).

Jeneral Jane	Posted - 2011.06.21 12:41:00 - [181] Originally by: Rolix FallenOne i'll leave. Do us all the favor and just leave now. For every single **** like you who threatens to emo quit like this, there are 30 other pilots here to prove you aren't going to be missed.
Thom Baron Caldari Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2011.06.21 12:41:00 - [182] Edited by: Thom Baron on 21/06/2011 12:42:47 Originally by: Bart Fast Originally by: Thom Baron Edited by: Thom Baron on 21/06/2011 12:27:32 Hmm, guess I'm not gonna be able to play anymore? Unless the incarna client lets me use the character creator without my computer freezing.. By the way, CCP can you just tell us straight up rather than make us figure it out... Will the mac patch fail like all the previous major version patches have? Fail?? Really, never had a mac patch fail.... always worked fine, just bigger than windows which is a pita.... Wow. consider yourself lucky... lots of people have the same issue.. Everytime they release a major version I have to download the entire client again because the patch destroys my eve installation. strangely minor updates work fine... newish pvp pilot looking for a corp! (9m SP)
jackk O'neil	Posted - 2011.06.21 12:42:00 - [183] still no one answering if the specs have/will change for incarna, And yeah i have to agree stop whinning this is going to be awsome, i hope i get to enjoy it
Lee Anderson Eternal Profiteers	Posted - 2011.06.21 12:42:00 - [184] Originally by: Bethamene Originally by: Alabugin Quote: It is no longer possible to set up a ship to be impervious to scanning while uncloaked. This really needed to be done. I live in NPC Curse space - and I tell you it is **ing rediculous that you can have loki/tengu running around happily in Curse doing lvl 4 missions carefree in 0.0 making 100mISK/hr. Feel that ***es? Those are my probes...and something else too cry more yes please complain more sense us 's make billions with out even trying :). keep it up CCP i love my Isk. ------------------------------------------ My site http://www.mygamerbook.com
Clementine A Caldari	Posted - 2011.06.21 12:45:00 - [185] Originally by: Thom Baron Edited by: Thom Baron on 21/06/2011 12:42:47 Originally by: Bart Fast Originally by: Thom Baron Edited by: Thom Baron on 21/06/2011 12:27:32 Hmm, guess I'm not gonna be able to play anymore? Unless the incarna client lets me use the character creator without my computer freezing.. By the way, CCP can you just tell us straight up rather than make us figure it out... Will the mac patch fail like all the previous major version patches have? Fail?? Really, never had a mac patch fail.... always worked fine, just bigger than windows which is a pita.... Wow. consider yourself lucky... lots of people have the same issue.. Everytime they release a major version I have to download the entire client again because the patch destroys my eve installation. strangely minor updates work fine... Time machine is your friend :D
Shepak	Posted - 2011.06.21 12:45:00 - [186] Don't know if someone's mentioned this already, but in the Fixes - Character Creation and New Player Experience section of the Patch Notes, it says "Completing the first mission of the Minmatar NOE Epic Arc will result in the correct rookie ship being given as the mission reward." I think it's meant to say NPE instead of NOE?
Ste'ven Sch'orik Gallente	Posted - 2011.06.21 12:46:00 - [187] Originally by: Jeneral Jane Originally by: Joe Space What I propose is that links are made so that they do not work within POS shields. Supported for even moar carebear tears from null-sec carebears who boost from their Rorqual's behind POS shields. Awww... are the 1 inch e-peen piwates gonna cry about not having it easy? Get over it. Also... Incarna in SiSi is causing my gpu to overheat severely even when just flying around or in warp whereas on TQ before this expansion my gpu was not overheating. I run on lowest graphical settings on both servers but Incarna is causing greater strain even though there is no increase in graphical quality. What the heck is going on? ________________________________________________ Roses are red and violets are blue, you shoot at me and you will die too.
Alabugin	Posted - 2011.06.21 12:46:00 - [188] Originally by: Clementine A Originally by: Thom Baron Edited by: Thom Baron on 21/06/2011 12:42:47 Originally by: Bart Fast Originally by: Thom Baron Edited by: Thom Baron on 21/06/2011 12:27:32 Hmm, guess I'm not gonna be able to play anymore? Unless the incarna client lets me use the character creator without my computer freezing.. By the way, CCP can you just tell us straight up rather than make us figure it out... Will the mac patch fail like all the previous major version patches have? Fail?? Really, never had a mac patch fail.... always worked fine, just bigger than windows which is a pita.... Wow. consider yourself lucky... lots of people have the same issue.. Everytime they release a major version I have to download the entire client again because the patch destroys my eve installation. strangely minor updates work fine... Time machine is your friend :D No...world of tanks is your friend =)
Lee Anderson Eternal Profiteers	Posted - 2011.06.21 12:47:00 - [189] Originally by: Shepak Don't know if someone's mentioned this already, but in the Fixes - Character Creation and New Player Experience section of the Patch Notes, it says "Completing the first mission of the Minmatar NOE Epic Arc will result in the correct rookie ship being given as the mission reward." I think it's meant to say NPE instead of NOE? CCP staff are not paid to spell correctly lol. ------------------------------------------ My site http://www.mygamerbook.com
Demonfuge Malevolent	Posted - 2011.06.21 12:48:00 - [190] I am looking forward to this, I think it will be great. Despite losing a day of Eve to downtime (and wondering what real life really means) I think the new content will make up for it. Btw does anyone know what the daily downtime is actually for? I can't see anywhere what it is actually used to do...

Cpt SpyOnYou	Posted - 2011.06.21 12:49:00 - [191] OK I am furious now. I really do not get it why have you done all these improvements on turrets BUT yet you will not FIX missile launchers graphics !?!?!?!?!?! I'm speechless about this ...... FOR GOD SAKES AN MINE put launcher graphics back, we use to have them I remember this. PS Get your acts together stop being like soni fix the old stuff first before you take 10 steps forward!!!!!!!!!!!!!! SINCERELY DISAPPOINTED !!!!!!!
ludizao	Posted - 2011.06.21 12:49:00 - [192] Originally by: Count'Dus Quote: SSAO is disabled on all video cards except NVIDIA cards. CCP, almost 50% gamers in the world using ATI cards. You are playing the fool with them. With you subscribers. Why? THIS!!!
Sheila Shenrose	Posted - 2011.06.21 12:50:00 - [193] Originally by: jackk O'neil still no one answering if the specs have/will change for incarna, And yeah i have to agree stop whinning this is going to be awsome, i hope i get to enjoy it -> http://www.eveonline.com/devblog.asp?a=blog&bid=922 "To highlight this and to future proof ourselves a bit weære in the process of revising and updating the EVE minimum and reccommended hardware specification."
Clementine A Caldari	Posted - 2011.06.21 12:51:00 - [194] Originally by: Demonfuge Malevolent I am looking forward to this, I think it will be great. Despite losing a day of Eve to downtime (and wondering what real life really means) I think the new content will make up for it. Btw does anyone know what the daily downtime is actually for? I can't see anywhere what it is actually used to do... Perhaps stuff like code deployment, database migration, extended testing, ....
Demonfuge Malevolent	Posted - 2011.06.21 12:52:00 - [195] I'll take your word for it as I don't know what those things actually are. I just wondered - half an hour every day - it must be for some purpose :P
Nadya Lena Twilight Federation	Posted - 2011.06.21 12:53:00 - [196] Originally by: Demonfuge Malevolent Btw does anyone know what the daily downtime is actually for? I can't see anywhere what it is actually used to do... Regenerate asteroid belts, remove expired containers and database optimizations IIRC
Lee Anderson Eternal Profiteers	Posted - 2011.06.21 12:53:00 - [197] Originally by: Demonfuge Malevolent I am looking forward to this, I think it will be great. Despite losing a day of Eve to downtime (and wondering what real life really means) I think the new content will make up for it. Btw does anyone know what the daily downtime is actually for? I can't see anywhere what it is actually used to do... its called google and here is a useful link if you would have used google... ------------------------------------------ My site http://www.mygamerbook.com
fenistil	Posted - 2011.06.21 12:56:00 - [198] Originally by: Cpt SpyOnYou OK I am furious now. I really do not get it why have you done all these improvements on turrets BUT yet you will not FIX missile launchers graphics !?!?!?!?!?! I'm speechless about this ...... FOR GOD SAKES AN MINE put launcher graphics back, we use to have them I remember this. PS Get your acts together stop being like soni fix the old stuff first before you take 10 steps forward!!!!!!!!!!!!!! SINCERELY DISAPPOINTED !!!!!!! would be nice seeing a few missile launchers fly through space with the speed of the exploding ship :) I don't think I have lived when missile launcher graphics were in game btw :) Have updates stopped being posted on the forums? At least an hourly update would be nice, like we are so damn busy fixing DB issues that we didn't think would happen when we deploy Incarna on TQ, we hope you got a 5 day skill in queue. O_o :)Or something to chew on :) hehe
Lee Anderson Eternal Profiteers	Posted - 2011.06.21 12:56:00 - [199] Originally by: Clementine A Originally by: Demonfuge Malevolent I am looking forward to this, I think it will be great. Despite losing a day of Eve to downtime (and wondering what real life really means) I think the new content will make up for it. Btw does anyone know what the daily downtime is actually for? I can't see anywhere what it is actually used to do... Perhaps stuff like code deployment, database migration, extended testing, .... database migration? in 30 mins???? holly fck they must have servers that are from the future.... ------------------------------------------ My site http://www.mygamerbook.com
Demonfuge Malevolent	Posted - 2011.06.21 12:56:00 - [200] Thank you for the link but not the sarcasm ;)

Ed Wuncler3rd Amarr STRAG3S	Posted - 2011.06.21 12:56:00 - [201] Is anyone else nervous about all the probes detecting a signature as opposed to a maximum of 4? I certainly hope this does not increase the time it takes to probe down signatures...
G'Shad	Posted - 2011.06.21 12:57:00 - [202] If I have been reading this thread correctly, it is a lot of ôcomplain complain complain, T3 boosting alts can no longer use an exploit to make them unable to be found . . . complain complain complain, computers till running on coal/steam have trouble loading the avatar graphics, complain complain complain, nVidia happens to be paying to have their three seconds of load time in the intro rather than ATIö Personally, I say thumbs up to you CCP for continuing to try and move towards a game that avoids nonsensical exploits and for working to keep you game looking fresh and up to date. I would hate to see EVE go the way of so many other long running MMO, aging poorly because their owning companies are to cheap to go about updating graphics. The changes to eliminate unscannable ships will not have great impact on the number of people using T3 boosting alts, it just means the players will need to pay slight attention to the alt and keep them moving around in system. In a month or two it such will be the norm. This is no different than ultra deep safe points. A degree of risk is the balance to the benefit of the command link bonuses. As for graphic cards, the nVidia and ATI do not play well together. There are minor elements to each card that makes them unique. So CCP is programming in favor of one over the other. Guess what, it happens all the time in the gaming industry.
Clementine A Caldari	Posted - 2011.06.21 12:58:00 - [203] Originally by: Lee Anderson Originally by: Clementine A Originally by: Demonfuge Malevolent I am looking forward to this, I think it will be great. Despite losing a day of Eve to downtime (and wondering what real life really means) I think the new content will make up for it. Btw does anyone know what the daily downtime is actually for? I can't see anywhere what it is actually used to do... Perhaps stuff like code deployment, database migration, extended testing, .... database migration? in 30 mins???? holly fck they must have servers that are from the future.... Sorry I read a bit fast. I was thinking about this whole day downtime.
Lee Anderson Eternal Profiteers	Posted - 2011.06.21 12:59:00 - [204] Originally by: Demonfuge Malevolent Thank you for the link but not the sarcasm ;) don't take it personally I'm only nice to about 12 ppl in this game, unfortunate your not one of them nothing personal. ------------------------------------------ My site http://www.mygamerbook.com
Demonfuge Malevolent	Posted - 2011.06.21 13:00:00 - [205] I don't mind the probes; I'm wondering what additional implant requirements will be introduced. I'm halfway through training cybernetics 5 and don't want to find out tomorrow I'll have to do even more training to use those +5s...
Bubbles Udan	Posted - 2011.06.21 13:03:00 - [206] Originally by: G'Shad The changes to eliminate unscannable ships will not have great impact on the number of people using T3 boosting alts, it just means the players will need to pay slight attention to the alt and keep them moving around in system. In a month or two it such will be the norm. This is no different than ultra deep safe points. A degree of risk is the balance to the benefit of the command link bonuses. You know command links do not work while warping? I'm not really taking any side on the issue, just pointing out "moving around" and boosting are incompatible :P
SuZiE DeMaRcHi Caldari Working For The Enemy Federation	Posted - 2011.06.21 13:07:00 - [207] Originally by: G'Shad If I have been reading this thread correctly, it is a lot of ôcomplain complain complain, T3 boosting alts can no longer use an exploit to make them unable to be found . . . complain complain complain, computers till running on coal/steam have trouble loading the avatar graphics, complain complain complain, nVidia happens to be paying to have their three seconds of load time in the intro rather than ATIö Personally, I say thumbs up to you CCP for continuing to try and move towards a game that avoids nonsensical exploits and for working to keep you game looking fresh and up to date. I would hate to see EVE go the way of so many other long running MMO, aging poorly because their owning companies are to cheap to go about updating graphics. The changes to eliminate unscannable ships will not have great impact on the number of people using T3 boosting alts, it just means the players will need to pay slight attention to the alt and keep them moving around in system. In a month or two it such will be the norm. This is no different than ultra deep safe points. A degree of risk is the balance to the benefit of the command link bonuses. As for graphic cards, the nVidia and ATI do not play well together. There are minor elements to each card that makes them unique. So CCP is programming in favor of one over the other. Guess what, it happens all the time in the gaming industry. I totally approve of this message ^.^
Lee Anderson Eternal Profiteers	Posted - 2011.06.21 13:09:00 - [208] Originally by: SuZiE DeMaRcHi Originally by: G'Shad If I have been reading this thread correctly, it is a lot of ôcomplain complain complain, T3 boosting alts can no longer use an exploit to make them unable to be found . . . complain complain complain, computers till running on coal/steam have trouble loading the avatar graphics, complain complain complain, nVidia happens to be paying to have their three seconds of load time in the intro rather than ATIö Personally, I say thumbs up to you CCP for continuing to try and move towards a game that avoids nonsensical exploits and for working to keep you game looking fresh and up to date. I would hate to see EVE go the way of so many other long running MMO, aging poorly because their owning companies are to cheap to go about updating graphics. The changes to eliminate unscannable ships will not have great impact on the number of people using T3 boosting alts, it just means the players will need to pay slight attention to the alt and keep them moving around in system. In a month or two it such will be the norm. This is no different than ultra deep safe points. A degree of risk is the balance to the benefit of the command link bonuses. As for graphic cards, the nVidia and ATI do not play well together. There are minor elements to each card that makes them unique. So CCP is programming in favor of one over the other. Guess what, it happens all the time in the gaming industry. I totally approve of this message ^.^ +1 ------------------------------------------ My site http://www.mygamerbook.com
SuZiE DeMaRcHi Caldari Working For The Enemy Federation	Posted - 2011.06.21 13:13:00 - [209] Originally by: Bubbles Udan Originally by: G'Shad The changes to eliminate unscannable ships will not have great impact on the number of people using T3 boosting alts, it just means the players will need to pay slight attention to the alt and keep them moving around in system. In a month or two it such will be the norm. This is no different than ultra deep safe points. A degree of risk is the balance to the benefit of the command link bonuses. You know command links do not work while warping? I'm not really taking any side on the issue, just pointing out "moving around" and boosting are incompatible :P OMFG! Are you really serious i think he's aware of this you will find my dear What he means is that people will have to warp to a saved location and reactivate there links! o_0
Terror Corps	Posted - 2011.06.21 13:13:00 - [210] Originally by: Joy Mongaguarda People asking CCP to make the game less boring. People complaining about performance issues. People asking CCP to make CQ disable feature because it loads graphics, has no meaning in an MMO -RPG- (that is my favorite). People complaining other problems arent being solved because of the work in CQ. There is one major solution for all of this: Make CQ unavoidable, and very costy in terms of machine. Doing so, all the previous mentioned people really leave the game, and the people who bought their computer in this decade, and play MMO -RPG- because they like MMO -RPG- will be able to have a better game. My PC has around 2.5 years in my use, and still run 4 EVE instances at ease, and I havent upgraded this PC EVER. I agree EVE is boring lately, and it is boring because you cant really feel the excitement of being part of EVE universe because it has many "reality checks" to enable old pcs, button smashers and general whiners play it. About time EVE as a scifi MMORPG, started to gather SciFi fans and not WoW dropouts counting "arena ratings"(killboards) and bragging knowing it all and not knowing why you cant have a draenei warlock. A hint: EVE has became boring, among other reasons, preciselly because many of its players started ignoring the EVE universe and started making EVE "pew pew in space". /Supported !!

DIGI Byte Gallente	Posted - 2011.06.21 13:14:00 - [211] Found a small glitch; Alt+Tab'ing from the main menu (log in screen) causes the movement animation on the maller to freeze until it resets Also, it would be nice to be able to customize the log in screen to a degree. I would like to see in station idealy. but being able to select the ship that flies past. the maller is now pimping, but still an ugly shape and not my cup of guaf (need to remove the dropping chin on it)
Adrenaline Reaper Gallente Hard Rock Mining Co.	Posted - 2011.06.21 13:16:00 - [212] Quote: 13:10 UTC Database updates are taking longer than originally estimated. Because of that, we are extending the downtime until 20:00 UTC. Thank you for your understanding. not good
Nerrevarn	Posted - 2011.06.21 13:17:00 - [213] Hmm, worst patch ever? And still some people excited huh? :) Nothing interesting really for a core old school player and as always an introduction of some annoying and unnecessary changes (this time in probing). Also it looks to me like a start of those renowned micro-transactions... connected with our PLEX system unfortunately... Somehow I have a feeling that someone in CCP sits a whole day long and only thinks how to make the game more problematic for those players who have to feed on average their 2-4 accounts. Any new patch recently and I just expect something more challenging and less rewarding ;) As for EVE graphics... I lost my previous passive GPU (a bit over a year ago) thanks to EVE. It got overheated and started to produce nice artifacts heh. Now I just hope my current GPU can handle all those new "impressive" things.
Sunbird Huy Caldari WEPRA CORP	Posted - 2011.06.21 13:19:00 - [214] Edited by: Sunbird Huy on 21/06/2011 13:24:11 Dear CCP(well, we can discuss the first word), FIRST: I have been away from EVE for over 5 months, due to work and no internet access. My job is a well paid one, and in all this five months, I have been in contact with friends via e-mail only(only mail-client gets dial-up access to satellite, mucho expensive). Just got back like 2 weeks ago. TO THIS... This was part of one of my mails: "Dude, I am getting myself a desktop machine with a large screen so I can f'ing enjoy EVE in full settings, breathtaking and f'ing awesome. On highest settings across the board. Just look up the market b4 I am back and send me some available rigs details..." I ended up buying a machine driven by AMD Radeon 6970(with 2gb RAM) and a 23" screen. The whole deal cost me a f'ing lot(which I don't mind), taking into account I live in country which average monthly salary is 1/3 of this machine's cost. It was a treat for myself. Now I read your pathetic patch notes, and I am left with nothing but disappointment. Second: With removal of unprobable ships, you have taken away any chances of guerrilla warfare to small groups. And there is no chance in hell that you are to reimburse the players that invested billions of isk into implants and modules for those setups, right? Because, your answer will be, you were just fixing a bug, amirite? Third: I don't think that you are being fair to the players. It has been repeated by the player base, for years now, that needs for fixes to PVP are dire. Your path has turned 0.0 into a BLOBODROME, in which small alliances are not meant to survive. NAPFESTs only. Or your excuse will be: *"but look, there is that small alliance holding 6 systems...and only 200 pilots in it, you see it's possible?"* Of course, in 6 months, you will see that alliance stomped out. This has gone so far, that now, ISK selling Russians can afford to camp gates with Titans and several SC's sensor boosted by 2-3 support ships, insta popping AF's and HAC's gangs which orbit at 100k, because they can. PVP has been consistently nerfed and small gangs are all but eradicated in 0.0. Unless you stalk for a casual sleepy farmer in a belt or something...which is not pvp... In conclusion, you keep ignoring our questions and our plight. And all we get in return is MILANO/PARIS/NEW YORK in stations, sponsored by NVidia "the way it's meant to be played" TM. Teh FUK...
Sister Sandiego	Posted - 2011.06.21 13:20:00 - [215] Originally by: Adrenaline Reaper Quote: 13:10 UTC Database updates are taking longer than originally estimated. Because of that, we are extending the downtime until 20:00 UTC. Thank you for your understanding. not good Welp, time to play a Free MMO until server is finalised. See you in Wizard101
SuZiE DeMaRcHi Caldari Working For The Enemy Federation	Posted - 2011.06.21 13:21:00 - [216] Originally by: Adrenaline Reaper Quote: 13:10 UTC Database updates are taking longer than originally estimated. Because of that, we are extending the downtime until 20:00 UTC. Thank you for your understanding. not good Dude really thats not funny please tell me your ffs trolling. I will be such a sad panda if thats true but again we all really knew this was going to happen right? any way whats another few hours i just cant wait for those sexy bi%$h ass turrets oh yeah baby ^.^
Adrenaline Reaper Gallente Hard Rock Mining Co.	Posted - 2011.06.21 13:23:00 - [217] Originally by: SuZiE DeMaRcHi Originally by: Adrenaline Reaper Quote: 13:10 UTC Database updates are taking longer than originally estimated. Because of that, we are extending the downtime until 20:00 UTC. Thank you for your understanding. not good Dude really thats not funny please tell me your ffs trolling. I will be such a sad panda if thats true but again we all really knew this was going to happen right? any way whats another few hours i just cant wait for those sexy bi%$h ass turrets oh yeah baby ^.^ http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1532385
SuZiE DeMaRcHi Caldari Working For The Enemy Federation	Posted - 2011.06.21 13:24:00 - [218] Originally by: Nerrevarn Hmm, worst patch ever? And still some people excited huh? :) Nothing interesting really for a core old school player and as always an introduction of some annoying and unnecessary changes (this time in probing). Also it looks to me like a start of those renowned micro-transactions... connected with our PLEX system unfortunately... Somehow I have a feeling that someone in CCP sits a whole day long and only thinks how to make the game more problematic for those players who have to feed on average their 2-4 accounts. Any new patch recently and I just expect something more challenging and less rewarding ;) As for EVE graphics... I lost my previous passive GPU (a bit over a year ago) thanks to EVE. It got overheated and started to produce nice artifacts heh. Now I just hope my current GPU can handle all those new "impressive" things. Blah blah blah Cry me a ffs river grow up and upgrade ohterwise go back to mario bros from the 90's
Sunbird Huy Caldari WEPRA CORP	Posted - 2011.06.21 13:26:00 - [219] Quote: 13:10 UTC Database updates are taking longer than originally estimated. Because of that, we are extending the downtime until 20:00 UTC. Thank you for your understanding. Who said we do have understanding?
Dako Semi	Posted - 2011.06.21 13:26:00 - [220] Edited by: Dako Semi on 21/06/2011 13:26:27 Originally by: SuZiE DeMaRcHi Originally by: Adrenaline Reaper Quote: 13:10 UTC Database updates are taking longer than originally estimated. Because of that, we are extending the downtime until 20:00 UTC. Thank you for your understanding. not good Dude really thats not funny please tell me your ffs trolling. I will be such a sad panda if thats true but again we all really knew this was going to happen right? any way whats another few hours i just cant wait for those sexy bi%$h ass turrets oh yeah baby ^.^ Updates on the time etc. will be posted in the first. post. so go to first page.

Khalin Gwah	Posted - 2011.06.21 13:26:00 - [221] Originally by: Vantaanya Keep the good things coming CCP. You might get alot of hate for this update, but there are still people out there who think you are doing GREAT things. Keep it up :) So long as Incarna is more than CQ in the very near future I can see why folks might get upset.. It's a big leap for an anoying shiney...
Jeneral Jane	Posted - 2011.06.21 13:27:00 - [222] Edited by: Jeneral Jane on 21/06/2011 13:28:01 Originally by: Sunbird Huy I ended up buying a machine driven by AMD Radeon 6970(with 2gb RAM) and a 23" screen. The whole deal cost me a f'ing lot(which I don't mind), taking into account I live in country which average monthly salary is 1/3 of this machine's cost. It was a treat for myself. Dude, the above graphics card will play EVE just fine and will look awesome. Don't get all upset because SSAO support is being removed for ATI cards. SSAO has never really worked right on ATI cards to begin with, by way of artifact issues as CCP has already commented on. CCP is doing the right thing here. SSAO is crap TBH and doesn't even improve graphics on NVIDIA cards very well. It's not the end of the world like many are making it out to be no matter how many trolls say so.
DIGI Byte Gallente	Posted - 2011.06.21 13:28:00 - [223] Originally by: Sunbird Huy Dear CCP(well, we can discuss the first word), FIRST: ATi have ALWAYS had problems with updates, they create quality products but never have sufficient driver support to keep them up to date, I love ATi, but nVidia is better for support (known fact) that's your fault for picking ATi. Second: Unprobably ships was something they put in as a test but always have planned on removing it as it is flaw in the game design Third: and that is the way life is, you think that cute little Japanese restaurant with 6 kids working the stove will last more then 6 months? get over it, its the way the cookie crumbles. grow some balls and stop complaining, Everything in EVE is already planned ahead by at least a full year.
Lee Anderson Eternal Profiteers	Posted - 2011.06.21 13:29:00 - [224] Originally by: Sunbird Huy Edited by: Sunbird Huy on 21/06/2011 13:24:11 Dear CCP(well, we can discuss the first word), FIRST: I have been away from EVE for over 5 months, due to work and no internet access. My job is a well paid one, and in all this five months, I have been in contact with friends via e-mail only(only mail-client gets dial-up access to satellite, mucho expensive). Just got back like 2 weeks ago. TO THIS... This was part of one of my mails: "Dude, I am getting myself a desktop machine with a large screen so I can f'ing enjoy EVE in full settings, breathtaking and f'ing awesome. On highest settings across the board. Just look up the market b4 I am back and send me some available rigs details..." I ended up buying a machine driven by AMD Radeon 6970(with 2gb RAM) and a 23" screen. The whole deal cost me a f'ing lot(which I don't mind), taking into account I live in country which average monthly salary is 1/3 of this machine's cost. It was a treat for myself. Now I read your pathetic patch notes, and I am left with nothing but disappointment. Second: With removal of unprobable ships, you have taken away any chances of guerrilla warfare to small groups. And there is no chance in hell that you are to reimburse the players that invested billions of isk into implants and modules for those setups, right? Because, your answer will be, you were just fixing a bug, amirite? Third: I don't think that you are being fair to the players. It has been repeated by the player base, for years now, that needs for fixes to PVP are dire. Your path has turned 0.0 into a BLOBODROME, in which small alliances are not meant to survive. NAPFESTs only. Or your excuse will be: *"but look, there is that small alliance holding 6 systems...and only 200 pilots in it, you see it's possible?"* Of course, in 6 months, you will see that alliance stomped out. This has gone so far, that now, ISK selling Russians can afford to camp gates with Titans and several SC's sensor boosted by 2-3 support ships, insta popping AF's and HAC's gangs which orbit at 100k, because they can. PVP has been consistently nerfed and small gangs are all but eradicated in 0.0. Unless you stalk for a casual sleepy farmer in a belt or something...which is not pvp... In conclusion, you keep ignoring our questions and our plight. And all we get in return is MILANO/PARIS/NEW YORK in stations, sponsored by NVidia "the way it's meant to be played" TM. Teh FUK... u mad bro? ------------------------------------------ My site http://www.mygamerbook.com
ludizao	Posted - 2011.06.21 13:29:00 - [225] Originally by: G'Shad As for graphic cards, the nVidia and ATI do not play well together. There are minor elements to each card that makes them unique. So CCP is programming in favor of one over the other. Guess what, it happens all the time in the gaming industry. With substantial degradation of visual impression, I fear many ATI users will leave their favorite game...
Ed Zidane	Posted - 2011.06.21 13:31:00 - [226] New stuff, for free. I approve.
Seloena Gallente	Posted - 2011.06.21 13:31:00 - [227] Originally by: G'Shad If I have been reading this thread correctly, it is a lot of ôcomplain complain complain, T3 boosting alts can no longer use an exploit to make them unable to be found . . . complain complain complain, computers till running on coal/steam have trouble loading the avatar graphics, complain complain complain, nVidia happens to be paying to have their three seconds of load time in the intro rather than ATIö Personally, I say thumbs up to you CCP for continuing to try and move towards a game that avoids nonsensical exploits and for working to keep you game looking fresh and up to date. I would hate to see EVE go the way of so many other long running MMO, aging poorly because their owning companies are to cheap to go about updating graphics. The changes to eliminate unscannable ships will not have great impact on the number of people using T3 boosting alts, it just means the players will need to pay slight attention to the alt and keep them moving around in system. In a month or two it such will be the norm. This is no different than ultra deep safe points. A degree of risk is the balance to the benefit of the command link bonuses. As for graphic cards, the nVidia and ATI do not play well together. There are minor elements to each card that makes them unique. So CCP is programming in favor of one over the other. Guess what, it happens all the time in the gaming industry. /Signed with all my 4 limbs There are few things that I must agree with ofcourse. Not everything is good in CQ, but Incarna gives huge potential to evolve EvE and thats cool. F.e I would love to see main screen in CQ to be fully customizable so I could see what I really need (like price changes of selected stuff/minerals) or timers to end of industry jobs. Also it would be cool that screen for PI would show us actual planets status (like time to ECU run end or how much free space left in launch pads - without opening planets), not only link to S&I window. I also think that character is moving much toooooo slow. And why the hell I can't go down to my pod by my own! And where is pod room with screens shown on Incarna taser? ...and I will be really really really missing this fast camera rotating round the ships in hangar when bored.... ____________________________________________ Character creation using 2 screens
Seigneur Doa freelancers inc -Mostly Harmless-	Posted - 2011.06.21 13:32:00 - [228] Originally by: Adrenaline Reaper Quote: 13:10 UTC Database updates are taking longer than originally estimated. Because of that, we are extending the downtime until 20:00 UTC. Thank you for your understanding. not good You new to EVE? :) This is PAR for CCP... but it'll be up soon enough and you can go back to smashing rocks to your heart's content -- Keep your head up and the hammer down.
Wearfield The Junkyard Dogs	Posted - 2011.06.21 13:32:00 - [229] Battlecruiser Skill Bonus: 5% off the price of Adidas shoes and 5% bonus to Adidas store credit per level.
Sunbird Huy Caldari WEPRA CORP	Posted - 2011.06.21 13:32:00 - [230] Originally by: Jeneral Jane Edited by: Jeneral Jane on 21/06/2011 13:28:01 Originally by: Sunbird Huy I ended up buying a machine driven by AMD Radeon 6970(with 2gb RAM) and a 23" screen. The whole deal cost me a f'ing lot(which I don't mind), taking into account I live in country which average monthly salary is 1/3 of this machine's cost. It was a treat for myself. Dude, the above graphics card will play EVE just fine and will look awesome. Don't get all upset because SSAO support is being removed for ATI cards. SSAO has never really worked right on ATI cards to begin with, by way of artifact issues as CCP has already commented on. CCP is doing the right thing here. SSAO is crap TBH and doesn't even improve graphics on NVIDIA cards very well. It's not the end of the world like many are making it out to be no matter how many trolls say so. Oh no doubt it will. I am well satisfied with the machine, the graphics are awesome, even with 2-3 accounts running parallel there's no issues at all, but, the way they are doing it, is just not proper. And what am I to expect next? It's not just my ordinary rage, but genuine chronic state -> I keep getting unpleasant surprises whenever I force myself to read DEV/GM notes on forums...

CEO Frappiato	Posted - 2011.06.21 13:35:00 - [231] Can we have a CCP live webcam feed... so i can see you guys working in place of watching the login screen?
SuZiE DeMaRcHi Caldari Working For The Enemy Federation	Posted - 2011.06.21 13:36:00 - [232] Originally by: Seigneur Doa Originally by: Adrenaline Reaper Quote: 13:10 UTC Database updates are taking longer than originally estimated. Because of that, we are extending the downtime until 20:00 UTC. Thank you for your understanding. not good You new to EVE? :) This is PAR for CCP... but it'll be up soon enough and you can go back to smashing rocks to your heart's content LoL well said Seigneur +1
Felix Shoen	Posted - 2011.06.21 13:37:00 - [233] WTF on the Mac patch. opened up eve to find a EVE EULA box that is ??empty?? it says scroll to bottom to continue, there is no bottom. There is no Text. It also wont close. Very nice work CCP. New to Mac OS are we?
Sunbird Huy Caldari WEPRA CORP	Posted - 2011.06.21 13:38:00 - [234] Originally by: Lee Anderson Originally by: Sunbird Huy Teh FUK... u mad bro? Yep :) I bet you're not tho, finally you get to wear pink fluffy stuff that you will be able to buy for aurum. Props. Your killboard stats also give me a reason to believe a carebear tries to troll me :)
Mark MyWord	Posted - 2011.06.21 13:39:00 - [235] I hope that all of you who complain about the code, lack of features, priority of Incarna, or ATI compatibility have never coded, or had experience sustaining PR (Public Relations), because we can let your complaints go as ignorance. If you really want all these things changed, because you tout yourselves as so important, why don't you get a job at CCP and code for them and make everyone's lives easier with your mad skills. EVE is a hard beast to tame - that's why CCP is big, too. The best coders, designers, and directors aren't the makeup of CCP or any gaming company. The best have to deal with less-skilled people that work within their company and not just those outside of CCP, like you. Be thankful for what they give you. I'm thankful I don't have to pay $60 for every expansion. I'll admit, my Dell 390 is from 2006 and it runs everything fine, but some manufacturers do a better job than others, and it's up to the user to decide what their computer needs and budgets are. In order to move forward, things have to get rearranged. That's how the EVE universe and the real universe move through time. If that means that old users are rearranged with new users, or users rearrange their old computer hardware with new hardware - we must move forward nonetheless. Who knows where your atoms came from. All of life had to get their atoms from something before them - whether it be the $hit from fish or the gas from plants (or planets). It's not like we're all unique one-time creations. Our bodies shed most of itself throughout its life only to rearrange its losses with newer consumables. Our planet came from our sun, and our solar system came from the atoms and reactions within our galaxy etc. I don't just play EVE, I play life.
Haeri Strategic Operations Brigade	Posted - 2011.06.21 13:40:00 - [236] Originally by: Felix Shoen WTF on the Mac patch. opened up eve to find a EVE EULA box that is ??empty?? it says scroll to bottom to continue, there is no bottom. There is no Text. It also wont close. Very nice work CCP. New to Mac OS are we? So Mac people won't have to play by the EULA? null
Whitehaven	Posted - 2011.06.21 13:44:00 - [237] Originally by: Joe Space Quote: It is no longer possible to set up a ship to be impervious to scanning while uncloaked. I think this is an excellent change! It hurts me pretty bad personally. I have two accounts that can each run 3 of the 4 unprobable T3s. That's a decent amount of training time and a lot of isk sunk into ships and fits that will need big adjustments. This will definitely make it more difficult for us small gang types. Nevertheless, the change does far more good than bad. Imho, unprobable sniper BS, unprobable mission runners, and even unprobable links are bad for the game. So I welcome this change. There is, however, one problem I foresee. Links can still be run out of POS. In my experience, the systems where gate camps are most prevalent are systems where the campers have POS. Being able to run T3 links out of POS (and, therefore, out of harms way) is a pretty big advantage. What I propose is that links are made so that they do not work within POS shields. This will force the campers to run links with the same risks as the gangs that come to fight them. I fully agree !
Nadya Lena Twilight Federation	Posted - 2011.06.21 13:44:00 - [238] Originally by: Felix Shoen WTF on the Mac patch. opened up eve to find a EVE EULA box that is ??empty?? it says scroll to bottom to continue, there is no bottom. There is no Text. It also wont close. Very nice work CCP. New to Mac OS are we? Welcome to Cider. CCP does not actually port EVE to OSX, they use Transgaming's Cider (a fork from a very old version of Wine) to run the client for them. If you were running it under Wine on non-OSX I'd say you're missing a font (most likely Tahoma or Arial).
Seloena Gallente	Posted - 2011.06.21 13:46:00 - [239] Well.... talking with 6 accounts no-life is pointless... you will not convince to anything nerd that is playing with few account @ once and is leaving his PC only if his bladder forces him to sit on bowl... so why you try that? ____________________________________________ Character creation using 2 screens
Smagd Encina Technologies Namtz' aar K'in	Posted - 2011.06.21 13:48:00 - [240] Originally by: Nadya Lena Originally by: Felix Shoen WTF on the Mac patch. opened up eve to find a EVE EULA box that is ??empty?? it says scroll to bottom to continue, there is no bottom. There is no Text. It also wont close. Very nice work CCP. New to Mac OS are we? Welcome to Cider. CCP does not actually port EVE to OSX, they use Transgaming's Cider (a fork from a very old version of Wine) to run the client for them. If you were running it under Wine on non-OSX I'd say you're missing a font (most likely Tahoma or Arial). Yeah or just wait till TQ is back up, maybe it'll supply the missing stuffs.

Shooter McGavvin	Posted - 2011.06.21 13:48:00 - [241] Originally by: Wearfield Battlecruiser Skill Bonus: 5% off the price of Adidas shoes and 5% bonus to Adidas store credit per level. Hahahahaha!
01011 101	Posted - 2011.06.21 13:48:00 - [242] I've installed the patch and the client screen ship and turrets are lovely, but I think I'm losing my mind....what ship is it?!
Admiral Sabnack	Posted - 2011.06.21 13:48:00 - [243] DT extended to 20? Well, I'm gonna play some APB in this case...
Nadya Lena Twilight Federation	Posted - 2011.06.21 13:49:00 - [244] Originally by: 01011 101 I've installed the patch and the client screen ship and turrets are lovely, but I think I'm losing my mind....what ship is it?! It's the redesigned Maller, seems to be in Navy colors.
Sunbird Huy Caldari WEPRA CORP	Posted - 2011.06.21 13:51:00 - [245] Originally by: Mark MyWord Our planet came from our sun, and our solar system came from the atoms and reactions within our galaxy etc. I don't just play EVE, I play life. Well, thanks for astro-physics/geology class. If you are trying to get a PR job with CCP, you are on a good road. What you choose to ignore is that CCP, in their drive for expansion and more customers is doing is losing a huge lot of old players that simply get worn down by the stuff done. The same players that actively or passively played a part in developing and flourishing of EVE. Your appreciation of CCP is, even if not stated by us the less intelligent than you the oh magnificent self, shared by almost every member/subscriber in EVE community. The fact that most of us are willing to endure and last hoping and waiting for improvements is a proof of that appreciation and thanks to CCP for making EVE the best MMO around. But they need to be more active on the real issues.
01011 101	Posted - 2011.06.21 13:51:00 - [246] Originally by: Whitehaven Originally by: Joe Space Quote: It is no longer possible to set up a ship to be impervious to scanning while uncloaked. I think this is an excellent change! It hurts me pretty bad personally. I have two accounts that can each run 3 of the 4 unprobable T3s. That's a decent amount of training time and a lot of isk sunk into ships and fits that will need big adjustments. This will definitely make it more difficult for us small gang types. Nevertheless, the change does far more good than bad. Imho, unprobable sniper BS, unprobable mission runners, and even unprobable links are bad for the game. So I welcome this change. There is, however, one problem I foresee. Links can still be run out of POS. In my experience, the systems where gate camps are most prevalent are systems where the campers have POS. Being able to run T3 links out of POS (and, therefore, out of harms way) is a pretty big advantage. What I propose is that links are made so that they do not work within POS shields. This will force the campers to run links with the same risks as the gangs that come to fight them. I fully agree ! I agree with this as well, all ships need to be outside pos shields to be able to use their equipment, guns, drones, repair, so why not links?
syrus mac	Posted - 2011.06.21 13:51:00 - [247] Originally by: Mark MyWord I hope that all of you who complain about the code, lack of features, priority of Incarna, or ATI compatibility have never coded, or had experience sustaining PR (Public Relations), because we can let your complaints go as ignorance. If you really want all these things changed, because you tout yourselves as so important, why don't you get a job at CCP and code for them and make everyone's lives easier with your mad skills. EVE is a hard beast to tame - that's why CCP is big, too. The best coders, designers, and directors aren't the makeup of CCP or any gaming company. The best have to deal with less-skilled people that work within their company and not just those outside of CCP, like you. Be thankful for what they give you. I'm thankful I don't have to pay $60 for every expansion. I'll admit, my Dell 390 is from 2006 and it runs everything fine, but some manufacturers do a better job than others, and it's up to the user to decide what their computer needs and budgets are. In order to move forward, things have to get rearranged. That's how the EVE universe and the real universe move through time. If that means that old users are rearranged with new users, or users rearrange their old computer hardware with new hardware - we must move forward nonetheless. Who knows where your atoms came from. All of life had to get their atoms from something before them - whether it be the $hit from fish or the gas from plants (or planets). It's not like we're all unique one-time creations. Our bodies shed most of itself throughout its life only to rearrange its losses with newer consumables. Our planet came from our sun, and our solar system came from the atoms and reactions within our galaxy etc. I don't just play EVE, I play life. You sir are mad!
01011 101	Posted - 2011.06.21 13:56:00 - [248] Originally by: Mark MyWord Our planet came from our sun, and our solar system came from the atoms and reactions within our galaxy etc. I don't just play EVE, I play life. fyi, This message and wording = may be an alt of "Tenla Amarr"
Bl4ck Ph03n1x	Posted - 2011.06.21 13:56:00 - [249] Quote: Factional Warfare NPCs now care about defending against their allies enemies. Uh... what? I don't get it, can someone explain me what they are talking about, what happend before and what will happen now?
Felix Shoen	Posted - 2011.06.21 13:57:00 - [250] OMFG. Every patch CCP puts up i cringe before downloading. Well CCP you have outdone yourself on the Mac Client patch. Basically Mac players cannot fully open the client. This means we can't play. It gets hung up on a EULA window and you cannot get past it to continue loading the client since the window is devoid of text and the "i agree" button. Now what? Just to be even more annoying, the client hangs the machine and i have to hard reset it. Can you just for once, just once, F****** test this crap before you inflict it on customers.

Sintao Gallente	Posted - 2011.06.21 13:57:00 - [251] Cmon guys, there was such a pression on station walking, now everybody splits on it. It will be evolved - those are the basis, players must adopt to the new interface - instead of a massive update and a big "how do I do" from the eve population But still this game needs massive improvements, I always resided in highsec, would like to start 0.0 but there is little to attract me there (not that there are few) but still 0.0 needs somekind of an advert. Please CCP - it's time to slow down with big changes - It's time to balance the game, and promote versatile gameplays, think about players who invested bilions of isk/milions of sp for skills you nerf or make them useless. Time to think about generic missions - they haven't changed much from 2004 eh? Server code optimisations are great BlueNet + CarbonIO - very important for war on lag, but don't forget about the essence of the game, which we players need. Add more content please, maybe new ways of earning money? Can't wait till the integration with DUST - its really innovative - want to see it in action... maybe also interact? Cheers
Jefferson H Clay	Posted - 2011.06.21 13:57:00 - [252] Originally by: Nadya Lena Originally by: Demonfuge Malevolent Btw does anyone know what the daily downtime is actually for? I can't see anywhere what it is actually used to do... Regenerate asteroid belts, remove expired containers and database optimizations IIRC Giving Tivoli a head start on snapshot generation for the daily backup as well. Yes, I know I'm making a huge ass asumption about them using expensive enterprise grade backup software, it's probably some lash up with the words TONKA and Tomytronic written on it.
Enik3 Crimson Empire. Nulli Secunda	Posted - 2011.06.21 14:01:00 - [253] Originally by: Mark MyWord I hope that all of you who complain about the code, lack of features, priority of Incarna, or ATI compatibility have never coded, or had experience sustaining PR (Public Relations), because we can let your complaints go as ignorance. If you really want all these things changed, because you tout yourselves as so important, why don't you get a job at CCP and code for them and make everyone's lives easier with your mad skills. EVE is a hard beast to tame - that's why CCP is big, too. The best coders, designers, and directors aren't the makeup of CCP or any gaming company. The best have to deal with less-skilled people that work within their company and not just those outside of CCP, like you. Be thankful for what they give you. I'm thankful I don't have to pay $60 for every expansion. I'll admit, my Dell 390 is from 2006 and it runs everything fine, but some manufacturers do a better job than others, and it's up to the user to decide what their computer needs and budgets are. In order to move forward, things have to get rearranged. That's how the EVE universe and the real universe move through time. If that means that old users are rearranged with new users, or users rearrange their old computer hardware with new hardware - we must move forward nonetheless. Who knows where your atoms came from. All of life had to get their atoms from something before them - whether it be the $hit from fish or the gas from plants (or planets). It's not like we're all unique one-time creations. Our bodies shed most of itself throughout its life only to rearrange its losses with newer consumables. Our planet came from our sun, and our solar system came from the atoms and reactions within our galaxy etc. I don't just play EVE, I play life. Good lord, you are an insufferable douc**
8ar0th	Posted - 2011.06.21 14:01:00 - [254] Originally by: Felix Shoen OMFG. Every patch CCP puts up i cringe before downloading. Well CCP you have outdone yourself on the Mac Client patch. Basically Mac players cannot fully open the client. This means we can't play. It gets hung up on a EULA window and you cannot get past it to continue loading the client since the window is devoid of text and the "i agree" button. Now what? Just to be even more annoying, the client hangs the machine and i have to hard reset it. Can you just for once, just once, F****** test this crap before you inflict it on customers. There is also a reason they recommend not downloading the patch until they release it (as it may change, sometimes requiring a full re-install). Check the patch site, and you will see it's not listed yet.
Clementine A Caldari	Posted - 2011.06.21 14:03:00 - [255] Originally by: Felix Shoen OMFG. Every patch CCP puts up i cringe before downloading. Well CCP you have outdone yourself on the Mac Client patch. Basically Mac players cannot fully open the client. This means we can't play. It gets hung up on a EULA window and you cannot get past it to continue loading the client since the window is devoid of text and the "i agree" button. Now what? Just to be even more annoying, the client hangs the machine and i have to hard reset it. Can you just for once, just once, F****** test this crap before you inflict it on customers. They're actually testing it right now...
Seloena Gallente	Posted - 2011.06.21 14:03:00 - [256] guys.... you are talking about 'downloading patch'. Where the hell you found patch from TQ 267203 -> 271273 ? ____________________________________________ Character creation using 2 screens
Indorian Pure Evil Warriors The Devil's Warrior Alliance	Posted - 2011.06.21 14:04:00 - [257] Originally by: 8ar0th Originally by: Felix Shoen OMFG. Every patch CCP puts up i cringe before downloading. Well CCP you have outdone yourself on the Mac Client patch. Basically Mac players cannot fully open the client. This means we can't play. It gets hung up on a EULA window and you cannot get past it to continue loading the client since the window is devoid of text and the "i agree" button. Now what? Just to be even more annoying, the client hangs the machine and i have to hard reset it. Can you just for once, just once, F****** test this crap before you inflict it on customers. There is also a reason they recommend not downloading the patch until they release it (as it may change, sometimes requiring a full re-install). Check the patch site, and you will see it's not listed yet. This
Sunbird Huy Caldari WEPRA CORP	Posted - 2011.06.21 14:09:00 - [258] Originally by: Seloena guys.... you are talking about 'downloading patch'. Where the hell you found patch from TQ 267203 -> 271273 ? http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1532151&page=6 this is the link to the page with links :D
Nankeen Heron	Posted - 2011.06.21 14:09:00 - [259] Yo dawg; I heard you like patches, so I put an patch in your patch so you can QQ while you pew pew.
Adrenaline Reaper Gallente Hard Rock Mining Co.	Posted - 2011.06.21 14:12:00 - [260] Quote: 14:00 UTC Deployment is still underway, and the database is being stubborn. Current estimate for opening Tranquility for the players is 21:00 UTC. Once again, we would like to thank you for your understanding and hope to see you in the game soon.

Lee Anderson Eternal Profiteers	Posted - 2011.06.21 14:14:00 - [261] Originally by: Seloena guys.... you are talking about 'downloading patch'. Where the hell you found patch from TQ 267203 -> 271273 ? latest patch and its working (windows) ------------------------------------------ My site http://www.mygamerbook.com
Nadya Lena Twilight Federation	Posted - 2011.06.21 14:14:00 - [262] Originally by: Adrenaline Reaper Quote: 14:00 UTC Deployment is still underway, and the database is being stubborn. Current estimate for opening Tranquility for the players is 21:00 UTC. Once again, we would like to thank you for your understanding and hope to see you in the game soon. In case people wonder where did that come from, it's from http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1532385
Maul555 Amarr Reliables Inc BricK sQuAD.	Posted - 2011.06.21 14:16:00 - [263] Originally by: ludizao Originally by: Count'Dus Quote: SSAO is disabled on all video cards except NVIDIA cards. CCP, almost 50% gamers in the world using ATI cards. You are playing the fool with them. With you subscribers. Why? THIS!!! I multiclient on 2 machines, one ATI, and one Nvidia... What is with the ATI nerfs CCP? Please tell me this is temporary for some reason and you are working on fixing it... I honestly don't care what goes on behind the scenes as long as the game looks right and plays right... If I log on and notice glaring graphical differences with the same settings my eyeballs are going to twitch right out of my skull! The EVE Personality Test
01011 101	Posted - 2011.06.21 14:16:00 - [264] Originally by: Felix Shoen OMFG. Every patch CCP puts up i cringe before downloading. Well CCP you have outdone yourself on the Mac Client patch. Basically Mac players cannot fully open the client. This means we can't play. It gets hung up on a EULA window and you cannot get past it to continue loading the client since the window is devoid of text and the "i agree" button. Now what? Just to be even more annoying, the client hangs the machine and i have to hard reset it. Can you just for once, just once, F****** test this crap before you inflict it on customers. i have no knowledge on running the client on a mac fyi. CCP may have tested the update patch and inferring that they don't without facts is unfair imo. If it is indeed a "missing font problem" then it is understandable that it may have been missed during testing, maybe players macs are not loaded/updated to spec? I feel issues for computer games on the pc and mac should be expected and remedied. However I do not understand why players get so angry about it. Pc's and macs are a category of computing device that vary wildly from machine to machine, in hardware, software and driver spec, unlike the xbox, ps3, etc. Compatibility or issues are inherent. If eve is run through a thirdparty on the Mac, then this is a seperate issue. I do feel for you, I would be upset as well, but I'm sure it will be addressed asap It is a bit upsetting that they normally underestimate their completion times and then delay their completion. The PR issue with delays is widely voiced about. I feel it would be easier if they set a completion time that held a contingency within it. So that they meet the completion time, and even if they finish a few hours before, that they stick with the time so that players know that when they set a time that it will be stuck to. I can imagine if they completed early and reopened the servers that players who miss the reopening would complain (in reverse). Rabble rabble rabble etc moan cry complain and all that
LadyBreak	Posted - 2011.06.21 14:17:00 - [265] Quote: 13:10 UTC Database updates are taking longer than originally estimated. Because of that, we are extending the downtime until 20:00 UTC. Thank you for your understanding. huuu, we understand, database administration and database design are nightmare activity :D try to do .... no,no maybe too simple. :)
Maxwellhawk Minmatar Silverbird Intergalactic Inc.	Posted - 2011.06.21 14:17:00 - [266] Originally by: Temai . All players logging into Tranquility will now have to create an avatar. <-- about time its annoying seeing facless people everywhere Maybe all those avs that haven't created a new look should have given ccp a clue that it wasn't as important as they thought. I don't particularly look forward to wandering around in the station as it adds absolutely nothing to the game (besides overhead). Maybe they should have added revive tomes and pink dancing shoes so I can avoid or recover from pirates. Better yet they can take all this fluff and put it into their pockets and it will turn into pocket lint making it easier to discard.
Aemmaria	Posted - 2011.06.21 14:17:00 - [267] Originally by: SuZiE DeMaRcHi Blah blah blah Cry me a ffs river grow up and upgrade ohterwise go back to mario bros from the 90's You are more than welcome to send me some donation. If you can spare something from that pocket change momma gives you, that is.
Lee Anderson Eternal Profiteers	Posted - 2011.06.21 14:17:00 - [268] Originally by: Nadya Lena Originally by: Adrenaline Reaper Quote: 14:00 UTC Deployment is still underway, and the database is being stubborn. Current estimate for opening Tranquility for the players is 21:00 UTC. Once again, we would like to thank you for your understanding and hope to see you in the game soon. In case people wonder where did that come from, it's from http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1532385 migration issues CCP? i guess when a game is almost a terabyte in total, i can see why the database is being a arse. ------------------------------------------ My site http://www.mygamerbook.com
Inslander Wessette	Posted - 2011.06.21 14:18:00 - [269] ermm so how long has the down time been increased to ? indefinitely ?
Di Mulle	Posted - 2011.06.21 14:19:00 - [270] Originally by: Sintao Can't wait till the integration with DUST - its really innovative - want to see it in action... maybe also interact? Cheers I can hardly see something innovative in writing e-mails and posting on forums - this is how we gonna interact with DUST anyway...

Atomic-Donkeh Sunji	Posted - 2011.06.21 14:19:00 - [271] Question: IS INCARNA UP YET? When I open the client it just says the server is offline--I don't get any client updates or anything. Please respond. I'm panicking.
Adrenaline Reaper Gallente Hard Rock Mining Co.	Posted - 2011.06.21 14:21:00 - [272] Originally by: Atomic-Donkeh Sunji Question: IS INCARNA UP YET? When I open the client it just says the server is offline--I don't get any client updates or anything. Please respond. I'm panicking. Read first post......
01011 101	Posted - 2011.06.21 14:22:00 - [273] Originally by: Maxwellhawk Originally by: Temai . All players logging into Tranquility will now have to create an avatar. <-- about time its annoying seeing facless people everywhere Maybe all those avs that haven't created a new look should have given ccp a clue that it wasn't as important as they thought. I don't particularly look forward to wandering around in the station as it adds absolutely nothing to the game (besides overhead). Maybe they should have added revive tomes and pink dancing shoes so I can avoid or recover from pirates. Better yet they can take all this fluff and put it into their pockets and it will turn into pocket lint making it easier to discard. This is the first stage of developing a wider gaming environment in eve, don't be so shortsighted
Sunbird Huy Caldari WEPRA CORP	Posted - 2011.06.21 14:22:00 - [274] Originally by: Atomic-Donkeh Sunji Question: IS INCARNA UP YET? When I open the client it just says the server is offline--I don't get any client updates or anything. Please respond. I'm panicking. Read. THE. FORUM. THREAD. YOU. JUST. POSTED. IN.
01011 101	Posted - 2011.06.21 14:24:00 - [275] Originally by: Sunbird Huy Read. THE. FORUM. THREAD. YOU. JUST. POSTED. IN. I feel "Read" should have been fully in capitals.
i hatechosingnames Gallente Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore	Posted - 2011.06.21 14:24:00 - [276] will this awesome "feature" with the skirts be fixed?
Dakotix Gallente DakoCorp	Posted - 2011.06.21 14:25:00 - [277] Its the first day of summer...go outside and enjoy it. And if you happen to live in the southern hemisphere where its winter..sucks to be you!
Atomic-Donkeh Sunji	Posted - 2011.06.21 14:25:00 - [278] Originally by: Sunbird Huy Originally by: Atomic-Donkeh Sunji Question: IS INCARNA UP YET? When I open the client it just says the server is offline--I don't get any client updates or anything. Please respond. I'm panicking. Read. THE. FORUM. THREAD. YOU. JUST. POSTED. IN. PEOPLE. ARE. SAYING. THEY'RE. PLAYING. IT. Yeesh, just had to make sure, gawd.
Lee Anderson Eternal Profiteers	Posted - 2011.06.21 14:25:00 - [279] Originally by: Atomic-Donkeh Sunji Question: IS INCARNA UP YET? When I open the client it just says the server is offline--I don't get any client updates or anything. Please respond. I'm panicking. you don't read do you... this will tell you when its back up. Probs before the staff say its up ------------------------------------------ My site http://www.mygamerbook.com
Fling Achu	Posted - 2011.06.21 14:26:00 - [280] I think I was wise to extend all of my automatons for greater than two days...

01011 101	Posted - 2011.06.21 14:27:00 - [281] Originally by: Atomic-Donkeh Sunji Originally by: Sunbird Huy Originally by: Atomic-Donkeh Sunji Question: IS INCARNA UP YET? When I open the client it just says the server is offline--I don't get any client updates or anything. Please respond. I'm panicking. Read. THE. FORUM. THREAD. YOU. JUST. POSTED. IN. PEOPLE. ARE. SAYING. THEY'RE. PLAYING. IT. Yeesh, just had to make sure, gawd. can you quote the players who say they are playing it?
Zi Yu San	Posted - 2011.06.21 14:27:00 - [282] API still isn't up though. It said that would be up at 11:00UTC....
Elesentra Gallente Pawnstars INC	Posted - 2011.06.21 14:28:00 - [283] Originally by: Felix Shoen WTF on the Mac patch. opened up eve to find a EVE EULA box that is ??empty?? it says scroll to bottom to continue, there is no bottom. There is no Text. It also wont close. Very nice work CCP. New to Mac OS are we? Felix - did you by any chance try to launch the new version of EVE, wait an age, then give up/force-quit relaunch? If so, you broke it. First time Incarna runs on the Mac it copies all the preference files from one place to another (from ~/Library/Preferences to ~/Library/Application Support). This takes a long time. (About 8 minutes on my laptop). If you interrupt it while it's doing that, next time you launch it, you get the empty EULA window. I know. I interrupted it. I learnt already ;) I used Time Machine to roll back everything and start over. If you don't have Time Machine, you're looking at a re-install I think. If you do have Time Machine, roll back the following: ~/Library/Preferences/EVE Online Preferences ~/Library/Application Support/EVE Mac Suite The EVE Online app itself And DELETE ~/Library/Application Support/EVE Online. Then re-install the patch, and be patient when you launch Incarna for the first time
Atomic-Donkeh Sunji	Posted - 2011.06.21 14:28:00 - [284] Originally by: Lee Anderson Originally by: Atomic-Donkeh Sunji Question: IS INCARNA UP YET? When I open the client it just says the server is offline--I don't get any client updates or anything. Please respond. I'm panicking. you don't read do you... this will tell you when its back up. Probs before the staff say its up Oh, and yes, I did read the times, it's just that I was reading other posts of people enjoying all the new updates and stuff. Problem solved.
Dinta Zembo	Posted - 2011.06.21 14:29:00 - [285] - Will bookmarks show their names again on the solar system map? - Will probe names stop disappearing? Couldn't find it in the text wall but I may have missed it, thanks.
Lion Arthie	Posted - 2011.06.21 14:31:00 - [286] Hi all. Still new at this game - I have tried looking for the patch dnload link for the update [Windows from Incursion 1.6.1 to Incarna 1.0 is 757 MB], while awaiting the Tranquility server's up. My question is: do I need to await for the game to be up [21.00 utc] to get that patch, OR can someone link me to it please? Thank you.
Sunbird Huy Caldari WEPRA CORP	Posted - 2011.06.21 14:34:00 - [287] Originally by: Lion Arthie Hi all. Still new at this game - I have tried looking for the patch dnload link for the update [Windows from Incursion 1.6.1 to Incarna 1.0 is 757 MB], while awaiting the Tranquility server's up. My question is: do I need to await for the game to be up [21.00 utc] to get that patch, OR can someone link me to it please? Thank you. links on page 6
Cor Synn	Posted - 2011.06.21 14:34:00 - [288] Originally by: Atomic-Donkeh SunjiQuestion: IS INCARNA UP YET? When I open the client it just says the server is offline--I don't get any client updates or anything. Please respond. I'm panicking. you don't read do you... this will tell you when its back up. Probs before the staff say its up Rolling Eyes >>Oh, and yes, I did read the times, it's just that I was reading other posts of people enjoying all the new updates and stuff. Problem solved.<< Its very probable you are reading peoples experiences with the Incarna build on the test servers. Some of us have already been hangin in our CQs and checking out new gear/interfaces.
Zero Inkura	Posted - 2011.06.21 14:35:00 - [289] Originally by: Stealthgun Edited by: Stealthgun on 21/06/2011 11:45:31 For everyone who wants the patch allready: http://content.eveonline.com/evepremiumpatch267203-271273_m.exe Patch is 741MB, this is the windows patch.
Aloe Cloveris The Greater Goon	Posted - 2011.06.21 14:39:00 - [290] - Four mining missions were previously available to some pirate factions. They are now available to all factions of flexible morals. They are: ôOh, the Augumene!,ö ôMercium Belt,ö ôI Don't Ask,ö and ôLike Drones to a Cloud.ö - ôOh, the Augumene!,ö - Augumene Aw-goo'-men-ee In my head that word was always "aw'-gyoo-meen". Only today I realize that Augumene is, in fact, a four syllable word. Pretty cool.

Lion Arthie	Posted - 2011.06.21 14:39:00 - [291] Originally by: Sunbird Huy Originally by: Lion Arthie Hi all. Still new at this game - I have tried looking for the patch dnload link for the update [Windows from Incursion 1.6.1 to Incarna 1.0 is 757 MB], while awaiting the Tranquility server's up. My question is: do I need to await for the game to be up [21.00 utc] to get that patch, OR can someone link me to it please? Thank you. links on page 6 Thank you Sunbird
Elizabeth Vokan	Posted - 2011.06.21 14:41:00 - [292] Can i still spin my ships from captain's corner? Please? PLEASE????
Clementine A	Posted - 2011.06.21 14:41:00 - [293] It's quite instructing reading this forum each time a major update occurs. There's always the bunch of embittered conservatives ranting about the new features to be introduced, like old timers remembering the "good old times". Bad news, guys, this kind of thing happens all the time. This is called evolution. Guess what, according to Robert Charles Darwin those who can't adapt just disappear :) Marche ou crFve.
Smug Baldy	Posted - 2011.06.21 14:42:00 - [294] Quote: The Maller, an Amarr cruiser, has had a dramatic makeover and looks fantastic. Go buy one tomorrow and be the envy of all your friends. This is great news ... unless the new Maller/Devoter now look like the old Scorpion.
Shawn Evolves	Posted - 2011.06.21 14:42:00 - [295] Edited by: Shawn Evolves on 21/06/2011 14:42:41 am i going to have to download from a link and install a new client or will this auto update from the existing client?
Sunbird Huy Caldari WEPRA CORP	Posted - 2011.06.21 14:43:00 - [296] Originally by: Clementine A Guess what, according to Robert Charles Darwin those who can't adapt just disappear :) Marche ou crFve. What Darwin failed to note is that there are always tards that think THEY are evolved.
Zi Yu San	Posted - 2011.06.21 14:44:00 - [297] We should be grateful that CCP continues to develop and evolve this game. It is what makes this game continue to be interesting. Unless you like things to stay the same always, in which case I am sure you just love WOW, or even better Sony's "Planetside". These are excellent choices, I admit, but I like what CCP is doing with Eve myself.
01011 101	Posted - 2011.06.21 14:48:00 - [298] Edited by: 01011 101 on 21/06/2011 14:52:56 Originally by: Zi Yu San We should be grateful that CCP continues to develop and evolve this game. It is what makes this game continue to be interesting. Unless you like things to stay the same always, in which case I am sure you just love WOW, or even better Sony's "Planetside". These are excellent choices, I admit, but I like what CCP is doing with Eve myself. I feel the same. In general, the updates made to EVE compared to WOW are greater in scope imo. Edit: ignore my comment if you disagree, it refers to features that broaden the game limits itself, and is a personnel opinion, compared to WOW which has a relatively linear gameplay and static end-game zone. I guess my comment may make sense to those of us who have played WOW from 1-80 and got bored
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Woorak	Posted - 2011.06.21 14:50:00 - [300] Am I the only one that finds the new login screen odd? No music and pretty empty besides a ship that jumps in at the very bottom of the screen, proceeds to almost slide off the screen, fires some turrets and moves up on the screen just enough so I can see the turrets and then moves off the screen again..

Alabugin	Posted - 2011.06.21 14:52:00 - [301] Originally by: 01011 101 Originally by: Zi Yu San We should be grateful that CCP continues to develop and evolve this game. It is what makes this game continue to be interesting. Unless you like things to stay the same always, in which case I am sure you just love WOW, or even better Sony's "Planetside". These are excellent choices, I admit, but I like what CCP is doing with Eve myself. I feel the same. In general, the updates made to EVE compared to WOW are greater in scope imo. Not to mention we are not charged for the updates.
Kaeda Maxwell Witchsmellers Pursuivant	Posted - 2011.06.21 14:52:00 - [302] Originally by: Maxwellhawk Originally by: Temai . All players logging into Tranquility will now have to create an avatar. <-- about time its annoying seeing facless people everywhere Maybe they should have added revive tomes and pink dancing shoes I would so drop some Aurum on that! Can I have a matching cute light pinkish summerdress CCP? So I can go explode people in hi-sec while looking sharp & cute? Pwetty please?
Sheila Shenrose	Posted - 2011.06.21 14:53:00 - [303] Originally by: Woorak Am I the only one that finds the new login screen odd? No music and pretty empty besides a ship that jumps in at the very bottom of the screen, proceeds to almost slide off the screen, fires some turrets and moves up on the screen just enough so I can see the turrets and then moves off the screen again.. there is music. it's just not as loud as the older login sounds used to be. (but since i skip this so fast, i never really paid attention to that)
Tess Sola	Posted - 2011.06.21 14:53:00 - [304] Oh it is so easy to be negative, and in parallel utterly stupid. This is EVE Online, learn to take advantage of everything and don't bloody whine. Reading these lovely release threads is like bathing in the possibilities of all the simpletons that can be abused right after the downtime. Be smart, play the game, and roll with the patches. Have not had a single grey hair come out due to any of the changes in the past four years. Can't say the same for some of you who already have a bald patch from just the past six months.
Doctor John Smith	Posted - 2011.06.21 14:55:00 - [305] Originally by: Lion Arthie Hi all. Still new at this game - I have tried looking for the patch dnload link for the update [Windows from Incursion 1.6.1 to Incarna 1.0 is 757 MB], while awaiting the Tranquility server's up. My question is: do I need to await for the game to be up [21.00 utc] to get that patch, OR can someone link me to it please? Thank you. If you're smart you'll wait until the official patch is released after they upload it to the main server, the patch floating around on the forums has been known to break the client for some users
01011 101	Posted - 2011.06.21 14:55:00 - [306] Originally by: Woorak Am I the only one that finds the new login screen odd? No music and pretty empty besides a ship that jumps in at the very bottom of the screen, proceeds to almost slide off the screen, fires some turrets and moves up on the screen just enough so I can see the turrets and then moves off the screen again.. the login screen may change in a relatively short period of time, its to show off the turret animations primarly
Uzguz	Posted - 2011.06.21 14:56:00 - [307] Originally by: Tess Sola Oh it is so easy to be negative, and in parallel utterly stupid. This is EVE Online, learn to take advantage of everything and don't bloody whine. Reading these lovely release threads is like bathing in the possibilities of all the simpletons that can be abused right after the downtime. Be smart, play the game, and roll with the patches. Have not had a single grey hair come out due to any of the changes in the past four years. Can't say the same for some of you who already have a bald patch from just the past six months. Can't wait to meet you in my corner ; ) or yours...
SylvanDisc Gallente The Scope	Posted - 2011.06.21 14:57:00 - [308] Originally by: Woorak Am I the only one that finds the new login screen odd? No music and pretty empty besides a ship that jumps in at the very bottom of the screen, proceeds to almost slide off the screen, fires some turrets and moves up on the screen just enough so I can see the turrets and then moves off the screen again.. In a few hours you really won't notice or care, unless ofcourse you plan on staying on the login screen while the rest of us are blowing **** up.
Zi Yu San	Posted - 2011.06.21 14:58:00 - [309] Oh the new Log In Screen is WAY less interesting then the last one! lol Just kidding. It's as good, if not anymore interesting then the last. God we have a lot of Cry Babies around!
Esrevid Nekkeg Amarr Justified and Ancient	Posted - 2011.06.21 14:58:00 - [310] Originally by: Joy Mongaguarda There is one major solution for all of this: Make CQ unavoidable, and very costy in terms of machine. Doing so, all the previous mentioned people really leave the game, and the people who bought their computer in this decade, and play MMO -RPG- because they like MMO -RPG- will be able to have a better game. My PC has around 2.5 years in my use, and still run 4 EVE instances at ease, and I havent upgraded this PC EVER. I agree EVE is boring lately, and it is boring because you cant really feel the excitement of being part of EVE universe because it has many "reality checks" to enable old pcs, button smashers and general whiners play it. Well, you know, I bought my machine about half a year ago. And although it may not be the most Ub3rL33T gaming rig around, it still has rather nice specs. And you know what? CQ murders my machine by putting the (Nvidia!)GPU at 100%, the CPU at 95%, with one client running (all settings at low/none/off) and giving 10-15 FPS back for the trouble. And yes, I have thoroughly tested it both on Duality and SiSi. Just so you know that not all people complaining about performance in CQ have antiquated computers build in the stone age.

slarti fast Amarr	Posted - 2011.06.21 14:58:00 - [311] Originally by: 01011 101 Originally by: Woorak Am I the only one that finds the new login screen odd? No music and pretty empty besides a ship that jumps in at the very bottom of the screen, proceeds to almost slide off the screen, fires some turrets and moves up on the screen just enough so I can see the turrets and then moves off the screen again.. the login screen may change in a relatively short period of time, its to show off the turret animations primarly Bit jerky on the Mac as well
Peter Babble	Posted - 2011.06.21 14:58:00 - [312] Edited by: Peter Babble on 21/06/2011 14:59:33 Originally by: Sunbird Huy Originally by: Clementine A Guess what, according to Robert Charles Darwin those who can't adapt just disappear :) Marche ou crFve. What Darwin failed to note is that there are always tards that think THEY are evolved. I so agree on this. I don't wanna go back to pixelized Space Invaders! I don't want 2D space ships, that look like glued squares, floating above a scrolling background. Give me the real stuff, live Eve Online! And now I can even walk around in a space station and actually look at my ship! That's pushing the boundaries of a space game! In a good way! Keep up the good work CCP.
ROSSLINDEN0 AQUILA INC	Posted - 2011.06.21 14:59:00 - [313] So im reading through this thread and notice that everyone ***ing about the unprobable t3's are mostly saying the same thing(*s are making 100m isk per hour and they cant be touched blah blah blah) when the real problem is that the missions are clearly to easy.... i "had" a t3 link toon myself and will probably have to get him into a CS now but i did like the idea of a t3 command ship being able to be unprobable it fit in well with the overpowered t3 business so i think CCP should modify the command link subsystem to make it very hard to probe you down atleast. /awaits cry moar f4g repies
Vanthor	Posted - 2011.06.21 14:59:00 - [314] I know we all expected that it would go on longer, and i'm not one of those idiots who will be all 'OMG it's 5 secconds after they said i want my money back' but when will CCP learn that if they said 'we're gonna have the servers up by 22:00 tonight rather than 17:00. That way when the servers go live at 21:00 all the n00bs will be like 'OMG 1 hour early, we love you CCP' rather than whining.
Zi Yu San	Posted - 2011.06.21 15:01:00 - [315] The only thing I wish they had up now is the API. I wanna check market prices~ lol
Prof eXe	Posted - 2011.06.21 15:01:00 - [316] Edited by: Prof eXe on 21/06/2011 15:06:48 It will probably go like this: 13:10 UTC Database updates are taking longer than originally estimated. Because of that, we are extending the downtime until 20:00 UTC. Thank you for your understanding. 14:00 UTC Deployment is still underway, and the database is being stubborn. Current estimate for opening Tranquility for the players is 21:00 UTC. Once again, we would like to thank you for your understanding and hope to see you in the game soon. 14:30 UTC Deployment is still underway, and the database is being stubborn. Current estimate for opening Tranquility for the players is 22:30 UTC. Once again, we would like to thank you for your understanding and hope to see you in the game soon. 15:25 UTC Deployment is still underway, and the database is being stubborn. Current estimate for opening Tranquility for the players is 23:00 UTC. Once again, we would like to thank you for your understanding and hope to see you in the game soon. 17:00 UTC Deployment is still underway, and the database is being stubborn. Current estimate for opening Tranquility for the players is 00:00 UTC. Once again, we would like to thank you for your understanding and hope to see you in the game soon. Stubborn? LoL You have taken away most of the advanced stuff, should be a ton easier as grpahix play no part in DB! 0_O
01011 101	Posted - 2011.06.21 15:02:00 - [317] Originally by: Alabugin Originally by: 01011 101 Originally by: Zi Yu San We should be grateful that CCP continues to develop and evolve this game. It is what makes this game continue to be interesting. Unless you like things to stay the same always, in which case I am sure you just love WOW, or even better Sony's "Planetside". These are excellent choices, I admit, but I like what CCP is doing with Eve myself. I feel the same. In general, the updates made to EVE compared to WOW are greater in scope imo. Not to mention we are not charged for the updates. this is true. However, WOW sells "stories" for their mmo and a linear story path with added features to the main game. It feels more inline with how an rpg game is marketed. RPG, RPG add-on, then RPG II Eve started with a wider world...well...galaxy...and uses stories to strengthen immersion through updates but is not reliant on story driven gameplay but rather player driven gameplay.
Zi Yu San	Posted - 2011.06.21 15:03:00 - [318] Ok, here's one guys. I don't like the name Incarna. I think it's stupid. I think they should have called it "Extreme Eve 5000!". Again, just kidding. I just felt with all of the worthless whining for the sake of whining everyones doing, I might as well pick just as much of a stupid thing to whine about also. :P
CrazyConflict	Posted - 2011.06.21 15:05:00 - [319] But it take all the fun out of reading the message if the whinning stop lol
Zi Yu San	Posted - 2011.06.21 15:05:00 - [320] Originally by: 01011 101 Originally by: Alabugin Originally by: 01011 101 Originally by: Zi Yu San We should be grateful that CCP continues to develop and evolve this game. It is what makes this game continue to be interesting. Unless you like things to stay the same always, in which case I am sure you just love WOW, or even better Sony's "Planetside". These are excellent choices, I admit, but I like what CCP is doing with Eve myself. I feel the same. In general, the updates made to EVE compared to WOW are greater in scope imo. Not to mention we are not charged for the updates. this is true. However, WOW sells "stories" for their mmo and a linear story path with added features to the main game. It feels more inline with how an rpg game is marketed. RPG, RPG add-on, then RPG II Eve started with a wider world...well...galaxy...and uses stories to strengthen immersion through updates but is not reliant on story driven gameplay but rather player driven gameplay. WOW sucks though, and isn't even worth talking about.

Dako Semi	Posted - 2011.06.21 15:05:00 - [321] Mabye an idea. Is it posible to open the duality server so we can walk arround a bit This way we also can get use a bit of the new patch. Ty and see you arround in space..... oh hehe this toon alway's docked o/ Dako
Nankeen Heron	Posted - 2011.06.21 15:06:00 - [322] Originally by: Clementine A Guess what, according to Robert Charles Darwin those who can't adapt just disappear :) Is that an adaptation of Charles Robert Darwin?
01011 101	Posted - 2011.06.21 15:06:00 - [323] Originally by: Vanthor I know we all expected that it would go on longer, and i'm not one of those idiots who will be all 'OMG it's 5 secconds after they said i want my money back' but when will CCP learn that if they said 'we're gonna have the servers up by 22:00 tonight rather than 17:00. That way when the servers go live at 21:00 all the n00bs will be like 'OMG 1 hour early, we love you CCP' rather than whining. This is kinda what I was talking about earlier. CCP should just set a static completion time with a large contingecy built in, and just stick with it. It can be 8, 12, 24, 36 hours! Predictability is underrated imo oh and I'm sure there will be players who complain if the servers come back up early and they were late finding out
Woorak	Posted - 2011.06.21 15:08:00 - [324] Originally by: Sheila Shenrose there is music. it's just not as loud as the older login sounds used to be. (but since i skip this so fast, i never really paid attention to that) Figured it out.. for some reason the music volume was turned right down in settings.
Draycen Trell Amarr 1st Praetorianorum Fabri	Posted - 2011.06.21 15:08:00 - [325] Originally by: i hatechosingnames will this awesome "feature" with the skirts be fixed? Oh I dunno, I am getting solid from behind
Sorgenbinder	Posted - 2011.06.21 15:08:00 - [326] Edited by: Sorgenbinder on 21/06/2011 15:11:03 Originally by: Lee Anderson Originally by: Seloena guys.... you are talking about 'downloading patch'. Where the hell you found patch from TQ 267203 -> 271273 ? latest patch and its working (windows) Tried downloading this and got: Some installation files are corrupt. Please download a fresh copy and retry the installation. Extracting EVEPREMIUM.6.45.267203-7.10.271273.7z CRC failed in EVEPREMIUM.6.45.267203-7.10.271273.7z Unexpected end of archive Tried again, and got the same error message. So am going to wait until the patch is OFFICIALLY officially released. Hey ho.
Zi Yu San	Posted - 2011.06.21 15:08:00 - [327] Is it seriously being bumped way ahead to 21:00 hours? ..... Damn, that sucks.... They should open up one of the backup servers so we can atleast play while they update lol..... damn....
CrazyConflict	Posted - 2011.06.21 15:09:00 - [328] There always is someone out there who cant live without complaining about something
01011 101	Posted - 2011.06.21 15:12:00 - [329] Edited by: 01011 101 on 21/06/2011 15:14:46 Originally by: Zi Yu San WOW sucks though, and isn't even worth talking about. It is easy to say something sucks. It is your opinion though. It is however recognised as a highly successful game by the gaming industry, which was marketed well to players, that appeals to a wide range of people, and which was highly successful in moving players from their solo game playing to online game playing. Edit: However, having played it for 3 months I got bored. fyi, Warcraft 2 is one of my fondest pc gaming memories.
LadyBreak	Posted - 2011.06.21 15:13:00 - [330] Originally by: Prof eXe Edited by: Prof eXe on 21/06/2011 15:07:27 It will probably go like this: 13:10 UTC Database updates are taking longer than originally estimated. Because of that, we are extending the downtime until 20:00 UTC. Thank you for your understanding. 14:00 UTC Deployment is still underway, and the database is being stubborn. Current estimate for opening Tranquility for the players is 21:00 UTC. Once again, we would like to thank you for your understanding and hope to see you in the game soon. 14:30 UTC Deployment is still underway, and the database is being stubborn. Current estimate for opening Tranquility for the players is 22:30 UTC. Once again, we would like to thank you for your understanding and hope to see you in the game soon. 15:25 UTC Deployment is still underway, and the database is being stubborn. Current estimate for opening Tranquility for the players is 23:00 UTC. Once again, we would like to thank you for your understanding and hope to see you in the game soon. 17:00 UTC Deployment is still underway, and the database is being stubborn. Current estimate for opening Tranquility for the players is 00:00 UTC. Once again, we would like to thank you for your understanding and hope to see you in the game soon. 19:00 UTC Deployment is still underway, and the database is around there. Current estimate for opening Tranquility for the players is : NO TIME. Once again, we would like to thank you for your understanding and hope to see you in the game soon. Ps. is any powershell expert around ? :) Originally by: Prof eXe Stubborn? LoL You have taken away most of the advanced stuff, should be a ton easier as graPhix play no part in DB! 0_O

Prof eXe	Posted - 2011.06.21 15:13:00 - [331] Originally by: 01011 101 Originally by: Vanthor I know we all expected that it would go on longer, and i'm not one of those idiots who will be all 'OMG it's 5 secconds after they said i want my money back' but when will CCP learn that if they said 'we're gonna have the servers up by 22:00 tonight rather than 17:00. That way when the servers go live at 21:00 all the n00bs will be like 'OMG 1 hour early, we love you CCP' rather than whining. This is kinda what I was talking about earlier. CCP should just set a static completion time with a large contingecy built in, and just stick with it. It can be 8, 12, 24, 36 hours! Predictability is underrated imo oh and I'm sure there will be players who complain if the servers come back up early and they were late finding out Yes, same old problem every patch IIRC! They could easily save so much ****e posts if they just put; Deployment of INCARNA PATCH 1.0 is underway today and can take up to 24hrs! If we can get it up much sooner we will. Once again, we would like to thank you for your understanding and hope to see you in the game soon.
Crest Cutty	Posted - 2011.06.21 15:13:00 - [332] Worst update ever. 3 meaningful changes (jump bridges, probing, unprobable ship nerf) and the rest is seriously worthless stuff (or stuff that only has a value to CCP as it paves the way for them to get deeper in our pockets). I would have loved an updated that dealt with ship balance issues (angels ships, assault frigs, super caps, rails, gallente CS's), the technetium problem, lag, 0.0/wh industry, fighter/fb response, t3 frigs, faction battle cruisers... Instead I pay for glorified barbies online and a slew of minor bug fixes (and don't tell me this crap is free, everything is monetized and passed down to the consumer). Way to be in touch with your player base guys. Only bright side is hopefully this brings in some noobs from hello-kitty online that I can harvest delicious tears from with when I exploit their limited understanding of eve's complex set of rules. The type of people who will seriously enjoy playing space dress-up are not the same players that enjoy lawless space pirates online. Stop trying to change my game into something that it is not!!!
Helothane	Posted - 2011.06.21 15:15:00 - [333] Originally by: Zi Yu San Is it seriously being bumped way ahead to 21:00 hours? ..... Damn, that sucks.... They should open up one of the backup servers so we can atleast play while they update lol..... damn.... Your first EVE expansion? The time for the cluster to be up gets pushed back numerous times through the day. Given the scope and complexity of this one, there is a reason why the earliest any of my three accounts' skill queues complete is Friday morning.
harqy Caldari Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2011.06.21 15:16:00 - [334] Originally by: Sorgenbinder Edited by: Sorgenbinder on 21/06/2011 15:11:03 Originally by: Lee Anderson Originally by: Seloena guys.... you are talking about 'downloading patch'. Where the hell you found patch from TQ 267203 -> 271273 ? latest patch and its working (windows) Tried downloading this and got: Some installation files are corrupt. Please download a fresh copy and retry the installation. Extracting EVEPREMIUM.6.45.267203-7.10.271273.7z CRC failed in EVEPREMIUM.6.45.267203-7.10.271273.7z Unexpected end of archive Tried again, and got the same error message. So am going to wait until the patch is OFFICIALLY officially released. Hey ho. i downloaded that and installed it succesfully, ^_^ no wait for me till server is up while patching
Lee Anderson Eternal Profiteers	Posted - 2011.06.21 15:17:00 - [335] Originally by: Sorgenbinder Edited by: Sorgenbinder on 21/06/2011 15:11:03 Originally by: Lee Anderson Originally by: Seloena guys.... you are talking about 'downloading patch'. Where the hell you found patch from TQ 267203 -> 271273 ? latest patch and its working (windows) Tried downloading this and got: Some installation files are corrupt. Please download a fresh copy and retry the installation. Extracting EVEPREMIUM.6.45.267203-7.10.271273.7z CRC failed in EVEPREMIUM.6.45.267203-7.10.271273.7z Unexpected end of archive Tried again, and got the same error message. So am going to wait until the patch is OFFICIALLY officially released. Hey ho. well it worked for me, Mine is fully patched and waiting >.>, well 90% patched sense i guess there releasing a patch after this patch. btw the patch your getting there is the official patch... ------------------------------------------ My site http://www.mygamerbook.com
john roe BearingPoint	Posted - 2011.06.21 15:17:00 - [336] Originally by: Zi Yu San Ok, here's one guys. I don't like the name Incarna. I think it's stupid. I think they should have called it "Extreme Eve 5000!". Again, just kidding. I just felt with all of the worthless whining for the sake of whining everyones doing, I might as well pick just as much of a stupid thing to whine about also. :P what to be happy about here, mate? that there will be even more waiting and mouse clicks between us and what we wonna actualy do in this game cause of thise oversized/useless eye-candy GUI of theirs? eve is laggy/clicking-exhaustive as it is. they dont need to 'improve' that.
Cheroth Morachi	Posted - 2011.06.21 15:18:00 - [337] Originally by: Crest Cutty Worst update ever. 3 meaningful changes (jump bridges, probing, unprobable ship nerf) and the rest is seriously worthless stuff (or stuff that only has a value to CCP as it paves the way for them to get deeper in our pockets). I would have loved an updated that dealt with ship balance issues (angels ships, assault frigs, super caps, rails, gallente CS's), the technetium problem, lag, 0.0/wh industry, fighter/fb response, t3 frigs, faction battle cruisers... Instead I pay for glorified barbies online and a slew of minor bug fixes (and don't tell me this crap is free, everything is monetized and passed down to the consumer). Way to be in touch with your player base guys. Only bright side is hopefully this brings in some noobs from hello-kitty online that I can harvest delicious tears from with when I exploit their limited understanding of eve's complex set of rules. The type of people who will seriously enjoy playing space dress-up are not the same players that enjoy lawless space pirates online. Stop trying to change my game into something that it is not!!! Yes, the one thing that you should remember is that CCP is going to FORCE you to purchase the Barbie Dream House. Part of the download is a .45 that points directly at your temple and forces you to purchase stuff...
Zi Yu San	Posted - 2011.06.21 15:18:00 - [338] Originally by: Crest Cutty Worst update ever. 3 meaningful changes (jump bridges, probing, unprobable ship nerf) and the rest is seriously worthless stuff (or stuff that only has a value to CCP as it paves the way for them to get deeper in our pockets). I would have loved an updated that dealt with ship balance issues (angels ships, assault frigs, super caps, rails, gallente CS's), the technetium problem, lag, 0.0/wh industry, fighter/fb response, t3 frigs, faction battle cruisers... Instead I pay for glorified barbies online and a slew of minor bug fixes (and don't tell me this crap is free, everything is monetized and passed down to the consumer). Way to be in touch with your player base guys. Only bright side is hopefully this brings in some noobs from hello-kitty online that I can harvest delicious tears from with when I exploit their limited understanding of eve's complex set of rules. The type of people who will seriously enjoy playing space dress-up are not the same players that enjoy lawless space pirates online. Stop trying to change my game into something that it is not!!! It's obvious you do not grasp the big picture of this development. This is the begining of a new realm of the game, where players can use characters as well, and go onto the planets, opening the door to planetary development and combat.
FinaI Destination	Posted - 2011.06.21 15:19:00 - [339] Originally by: harqy Originally by: Sorgenbinder Edited by: Sorgenbinder on 21/06/2011 15:11:03 Originally by: Lee Anderson Originally by: Seloena guys.... you are talking about 'downloading patch'. Where the hell you found patch from TQ 267203 -> 271273 ? latest patch and its working (windows) Tried downloading this and got: Some installation files are corrupt. Please download a fresh copy and retry the installation. Extracting EVEPREMIUM.6.45.267203-7.10.271273.7z CRC failed in EVEPREMIUM.6.45.267203-7.10.271273.7z Unexpected end of archive Tried again, and got the same error message. So am going to wait until the patch is OFFICIALLY officially released. Hey ho. i downloaded that and installed it succesfully, ^_^ no wait for me till server is up while patching I realy want to wait a bit till they launch it tru the login screen. going to take me arround 32 seconds i believe with 120mbit/sec this way no risk of downloading a non updated patch Wait safe o/
Lee Anderson Eternal Profiteers	Posted - 2011.06.21 15:19:00 - [340] Originally by: harqy Originally by: Sorgenbinder Edited by: Sorgenbinder on 21/06/2011 15:11:03 Originally by: Lee Anderson Originally by: Seloena guys.... you are talking about 'downloading patch'. Where the hell you found patch from TQ 267203 -> 271273 ? latest patch and its working (windows) Tried downloading this and got: Some installation files are corrupt. Please download a fresh copy and retry the installation. Extracting EVEPREMIUM.6.45.267203-7.10.271273.7z CRC failed in EVEPREMIUM.6.45.267203-7.10.271273.7z Unexpected end of archive Tried again, and got the same error message. So am going to wait until the patch is OFFICIALLY officially released. Hey ho. i downloaded that and installed it succesfully, ^_^ no wait for me till server is up while patching Don't forget there releasing a patch after the patch we installed to fix the patch bugs O_O. ------------------------------------------ My site http://www.mygamerbook.com

marek golec	Posted - 2011.06.21 15:19:00 - [341] I was looking for such a game a few years ago and I found it - and I am sure that many of those who are whining about this update will not find a better alternative in terms of such a game... I hope they will get a sense of that if they feel bored they should get back to their beloved Donkey Kong Ninento game :) Let the gorilla resume from ashes hehe :)
cdr cleaver	Posted - 2011.06.21 15:19:00 - [342] Well CCP it looks like youve done a good one on us this time doesn't it !!!... Here I am with a brand new computer the very best I could afford to buy, and guess what ?? its got an AMD card in it !! (Asus AMD Radeon HD 6950 DirectCU II 2GB Graphics Card)I had this new computer custom built for me so I could get as much game play out of eve that I could, and what have you lot just done?? screwed around with the damn graphics that's what !! what's the point in folks upgrading there computers, have you lot got something against AMD / ATI?? just 1 question for you lot now WHY??????...I suspect you have your hands in NVIDIA'S pocket as well have you ... NOT HAPPY...
Cor Synn	Posted - 2011.06.21 15:21:00 - [343] 01011 101 Posted - 2011.06.21 14:48:00 - [298] - Quote Report Edited by: 01011 101 on 21/06/2011 14:52:56 Originally by: Zi Yu SanWe should be grateful that CCP continues to develop and evolve this game. It is what makes this game continue to be interesting. Unless you like things to stay the same always, in which case I am sure you just love WOW, or even better Sony's "Planetside". These are excellent choices, I admit, but I like what CCP is doing with Eve myself. >>>I feel the same. In general, the updates made to EVE compared to WOW are greater in scope imo.<< Its a different model. I dig the sandbox, single shard living. Eve's expansions are free and several times a year, and do just that expand the universe and gameplay options. Most other mmos get greedy and give you content you can blast through and then never touch again. Just look at the last few expansions... further exploration of WH space, ability to interact with planets (with major overhauls to the interface since launch), large scale PvE incursions, now we're manifest instations with one of the most advanced character creation tools i've ever seen. Well, what can i say. I can keep playing a game that doesn't charge me to advance it.
slarti fast Amarr	Posted - 2011.06.21 15:21:00 - [344] Originally by: Helothane Originally by: Zi Yu San Is it seriously being bumped way ahead to 21:00 hours? ..... Damn, that sucks.... They should open up one of the backup servers so we can atleast play while they update lol..... damn.... Your first EVE expansion? The time for the cluster to be up gets pushed back numerous times through the day. Given the scope and complexity of this one, there is a reason why the earliest any of my three accounts' skill queues complete is Friday morning. Bit optimistic I recon, went for 14 days myself, or am I just too pesimistic?
XEcuTioneRUK Gallente Aliastra	Posted - 2011.06.21 15:21:00 - [345] Edited by: XEcuTioneRUK on 21/06/2011 15:21:16 This is LOL! ...and I was under the impression that EVE Online was a sandbox! Mislead perhaps? I wanna play the game the way they said I could, not how you think I want it! Sandbox pfff.
Clementine A	Posted - 2011.06.21 15:21:00 - [346] Originally by: Crest Cutty . Stop trying to change my game into something that it is not!!! :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D
Dax Insight	Posted - 2011.06.21 15:22:00 - [347] I have the patch downloaded - anyidea how to use that with a Steam install?
Gregor Raspiche	Posted - 2011.06.21 15:22:00 - [348] So we are crippling the jump bridges why? This patch fixes a bunch of nitnoid stuff and adds irrelevancies like the captains quarters. Don't get me wrong I think its great that you are utilizing your resources to polish and improve the game but there is enough wrong with EVE that you all should be focusing on the broken rather than fixing stuff that is working.
Lee Anderson Eternal Profiteers	Posted - 2011.06.21 15:23:00 - [349] Originally by: FinaI Destination I realy want to wait a bit till they launch it tru the login screen. going to take me arround 32 seconds i believe with 120mbit/sec this way no risk of downloading a non updated patch Wait safe o/ hmm i see your probs trolling care to show us the speed you got? click here and then copy and past reply with your speed, i think your lieing ------------------------------------------ My site http://www.mygamerbook.com
Darvec	Posted - 2011.06.21 15:23:00 - [350] I hope they have made some serious changes to the walking round station thing. Just been on the test server and... 1. The viewing angle on your char is all wrong, the view is centered on an area to the right of yourself, until you move, then the camera resets its self. Its not easy or fluid to move about. If it was in FPS you would be dead real quick. 2. When you change the view angle or rotate the camera perspective, its tied to some sort of camera zoom, giving the effect of bieng on a fairground ride. After two minutes of this I wanted to punch the monitor. 3. Why no object select/focus feature, so I can view the ship properly in the hanger?? gtg, people @ door......

Lorin Edehiel Northmoor Inc.	Posted - 2011.06.21 15:25:00 - [351] Originally by: Clementine A It's quite instructing reading this forum each time a major update occurs. There's always the bunch of embittered conservatives ranting about the new features to be introduced, like old timers remembering the "good old times". Bad news, guys, this kind of thing happens all the time. This is called evolution. Guess what, according to Robert Charles Darwin those who can't adapt just disappear :) Marche ou crFve. that evol-idea applies to CCCP too, mate not only us, clients. if they go too far with one expansion...
01011 101	Posted - 2011.06.21 15:25:00 - [352] Originally by: Zi Yu San Originally by: Crest Cutty Worst update ever. 3 meaningful changes (jump bridges, probing, unprobable ship nerf) and the rest is seriously worthless stuff (or stuff that only has a value to CCP as it paves the way for them to get deeper in our pockets). I would have loved an updated that dealt with ship balance issues (angels ships, assault frigs, super caps, rails, gallente CS's), the technetium problem, lag, 0.0/wh industry, fighter/fb response, t3 frigs, faction battle cruisers... Instead I pay for glorified barbies online and a slew of minor bug fixes (and don't tell me this crap is free, everything is monetized and passed down to the consumer). Way to be in touch with your player base guys. Only bright side is hopefully this brings in some noobs from hello-kitty online that I can harvest delicious tears from with when I exploit their limited understanding of eve's complex set of rules. The type of people who will seriously enjoy playing space dress-up are not the same players that enjoy lawless space pirates online. Stop trying to change my game into something that it is not!!! It's obvious you do not grasp the big picture of this development. This is the begining of a new realm of the game, where players can use characters as well, and go onto the planets, opening the door to planetary development and combat. I'm glad some players are unblinkered and are seeing this
Herring Caldari Pimpology	Posted - 2011.06.21 15:26:00 - [353] Originally by: Kemhotep Quote: All players logging into Tranquility will now have to create an avatar. You will not be able to proceed into game without one. **** you. Direct and to the point. Pretty much what I'm thinking too. To the guy I contracted all my stuff too: you need to be able to load cq to get it
Clementine A	Posted - 2011.06.21 15:26:00 - [354] Originally by: Lorin Edehiel Originally by: Clementine A It's quite instructing reading this forum each time a major update occurs. There's always the bunch of embittered conservatives ranting about the new features to be introduced, like old timers remembering the "good old times". Bad news, guys, this kind of thing happens all the time. This is called evolution. Guess what, according to Robert Charles Darwin those who can't adapt just disappear :) Marche ou crFve. that evol-idea applies to CCCP too, mate not only us, clients. if they go too far with one expansion... ... you'll leave and many will be happy to take your hangar
FinaI Destination	Posted - 2011.06.21 15:27:00 - [355] Originally by: Lee Anderson Originally by: FinaI Destination I realy want to wait a bit till they launch it tru the login screen. going to take me arround 32 seconds i believe with 120mbit/sec this way no risk of downloading a non updated patch Wait safe o/ hmm i see your probs trolling care to show us the speed you got? click here and then copy and past reply with your speed, i think your lieing http://www.speedtest.net/result/1351426148.png
Bishop Jace Beleren	Posted - 2011.06.21 15:28:00 - [356] Originally by: Joy Mongaguarda People asking CCP to make the game less boring. People complaining about performance issues. People asking CCP to make CQ disable feature because it loads graphics, has no meaning in an MMO -RPG- (that is my favorite). People complaining other problems arent being solved because of the work in CQ. There is one major solution for all of this: Make CQ unavoidable, and very costy in terms of machine. Doing so, all the previous mentioned people really leave the game, and the people who bought their computer in this decade, and play MMO -RPG- because they like MMO -RPG- will be able to have a better game. My PC has around 2.5 years in my use, and still run 4 EVE instances at ease, and I havent upgraded this PC EVER. I agree EVE is boring lately, and it is boring because you cant really feel the excitement of being part of EVE universe because it has many "reality checks" to enable old pcs, button smashers and general whiners play it. About time EVE as a scifi MMORPG, started to gather SciFi fans and not WoW dropouts counting "arena ratings"(killboards) and bragging knowing it all and not knowing why you cant have a draenei warlock. A hint: EVE has became boring, among other reasons, preciselly because many of its players started ignoring the EVE universe and started making EVE "pew pew in space". ^^^^^ Best post ever in an EVE forum.
Lee Anderson Eternal Profiteers	Posted - 2011.06.21 15:28:00 - [357] Originally by: FinaI Destination Originally by: Lee Anderson Originally by: FinaI Destination I realy want to wait a bit till they launch it tru the login screen. going to take me arround 32 seconds i believe with 120mbit/sec this way no risk of downloading a non updated patch Wait safe o/ hmm i see your probs trolling care to show us the speed you got? click here and then copy and past reply with your speed, i think your lieing http://www.speedtest.net/result/1351426148.png my hat off to you good sir very nice net. using works net don't count ------------------------------------------ My site http://www.mygamerbook.com
Sheila Shenrose	Posted - 2011.06.21 15:28:00 - [358] Originally by: Sorgenbinder Edited by: Sorgenbinder on 21/06/2011 15:11:03 Originally by: Lee Anderson Originally by: Seloena guys.... you are talking about 'downloading patch'. Where the hell you found patch from TQ 267203 -> 271273 ? latest patch and its working (windows) Tried downloading this and got: Some installation files are corrupt. Please download a fresh copy and retry the installation. Extracting EVEPREMIUM.6.45.267203-7.10.271273.7z CRC failed in EVEPREMIUM.6.45.267203-7.10.271273.7z Unexpected end of archive Tried again, and got the same error message. So am going to wait until the patch is OFFICIALLY officially released. Hey ho. friend of mine had same problem with the checksum error on download. he used internet explorer (32bit) for the download. i'm using opera built-in download manager and for me it worked easily. not sure if the browser built-in download manager affects this, but who knows :).
01011 101	Posted - 2011.06.21 15:29:00 - [359] Originally by: cdr cleaver Well CCP it looks like youve done a good one on us this time doesn't it !!!... Here I am with a brand new computer the very best I could afford to buy, and guess what ?? its got an AMD card in it !! (Asus AMD Radeon HD 6950 DirectCU II 2GB Graphics Card)I had this new computer custom built for me so I could get as much game play out of eve that I could, and what have you lot just done?? screwed around with the damn graphics that's what !! what's the point in folks upgrading there computers, have you lot got something against AMD / ATI?? just 1 question for you lot now WHY??????...I suspect you have your hands in NVIDIA'S pocket as well have you ... NOT HAPPY... I would suspect the game will run well with hardly any difference for you compared to Nvidia users? Some minor features arn't compatible and it is partly to do with the AMD/ATI cards isn't it?
Lorin Edehiel Northmoor Inc.	Posted - 2011.06.21 15:30:00 - [360] Originally by: Clementine A Originally by: Lorin Edehiel Originally by: Clementine A It's quite instructing reading this forum each time a major update occurs. There's always the bunch of embittered conservatives ranting about the new features to be introduced, like old timers remembering the "good old times". Bad news, guys, this kind of thing happens all the time. This is called evolution. Guess what, according to Robert Charles Darwin those who can't adapt just disappear :) Marche ou crFve. that evol-idea applies to CCCP too, mate not only us, clients. if they go too far with one expansion... ... you'll leave and many will be happy to take your hangar not only i will leave. many good players i knew gave up on this soft/service a long time ago (around 2007-2008). good pilots with experience, brains and ideas. nowadays server is full of noobs/ret.4rds. basicly since 2008 it's down hill all the time. Welcome to Barbies in space.

Demonfuge Malevolent	Posted - 2011.06.21 15:31:00 - [361] 15:24 UTC Tranquility is now up, and internal testing is underway.
crymyname	Posted - 2011.06.21 15:31:00 - [362] Originally by: 01011 101 Originally by: Zi Yu San Originally by: Crest Cutty Worst update ever. 3 meaningful changes (jump bridges, probing, unprobable ship nerf) and the rest is seriously worthless stuff (or stuff that only has a value to CCP as it paves the way for them to get deeper in our pockets). I would have loved an updated that dealt with ship balance issues (angels ships, assault frigs, super caps, rails, gallente CS's), the technetium problem, lag, 0.0/wh industry, fighter/fb response, t3 frigs, faction battle cruisers... Instead I pay for glorified barbies online and a slew of minor bug fixes (and don't tell me this crap is free, everything is monetized and passed down to the consumer). Way to be in touch with your player base guys. Only bright side is hopefully this brings in some noobs from hello-kitty online that I can harvest delicious tears from with when I exploit their limited understanding of eve's complex set of rules. The type of people who will seriously enjoy playing space dress-up are not the same players that enjoy lawless space pirates online. Stop trying to change my game into something that it is not!!! It's obvious you do not grasp the big picture of this development. This is the begining of a new realm of the game, where players can use characters as well, and go onto the planets, opening the door to planetary development and combat. I'm glad some players are unblinkered and are seeing this if wanted to play on a planet i'd buy bf3.... its a space game there doing it for the great cash cow ...
Hikari Kasenumi	Posted - 2011.06.21 15:32:00 - [363] +1 for graphical shininess on ATI cards. (After looking more closely at the patch notes, it appears perhaps you're just trying to be as depressing and negative as possible? Note that there's a whole world of difference between (I'm just randomly guessing at the reasons here...): * We've added a shiny graphical feature for NVidia users! * Another new shiny graphical feature is added, but doesn't work on XP, as it's a DirectX10 / 11 feature. It still works for NVidia users on XP, however, because of their cunning driver hacks. * This particular shiny graphics effect doesn't work on Mac because of problems with the emulation wrapper, so we disabled it. And: * We've taken a shiny graphical feature away from everyone who doesn't use NVidia! * We've taken away another shiny graphical feature from a few more of you! * Die Mac graphics, DIE!!! Note that if you want to be negative and go for the second option (or that option is actually more accurate, if you are just disabling features), sticking a "because of reason X" at the end would make them a lot more acceptable.
Lee Anderson Eternal Profiteers	Posted - 2011.06.21 15:32:00 - [364] i suspect the server will be up soon sense there is devs logged in doing Quality Assurance. The damn server is on VIP mode... and were not on the whitelist.... ------------------------------------------ My site http://www.mygamerbook.com
Dako Semi	Posted - 2011.06.21 15:33:00 - [365] Originally by: Demonfuge Malevolent 15:24 UTC Tranquility is now up, and internal testing is underway. Let me in..... i wanne do the testing :P o/ Dako
Aphoxema G	Posted - 2011.06.21 15:34:00 - [366] Originally by: XEcuTioneRUK Edited by: XEcuTioneRUK on 21/06/2011 15:21:16 This is LOL! ...and I was under the impression that EVE Online was a sandbox! Mislead perhaps? I wanna play the game the way they said I could, not how you think I want it! Sandbox pfff. The comparison to a sandbox is not that you have free control over the mechanics. It means they try to stick with laissez-faire on the market and player interaction as much as possible while the only external influence should be the decisions on the players and PLEX purchases. To make a "fair game" or to keep things moving it's not always possible to keep your hands out. When tactics become unreasonable or offer a disgusting advantage, intervention is necessary to keep both sides from getting hurt (scaring victims out of gameplay leaves the griefer to starve). Many changes have been made that people generally didn't agree with, even elevated severely and threatened to sue or quit. I don't feel it's "just talk" but there haven't been many ruinous changes that didn't get resolved. I'm at a challenge to even think of one instance of it, or (prominent) people actually suing or quitting because their opinion went unaddressed. I wouldn't want to tell anyone something so stupidly detrimental as "if you don't like it then get out", I definitely want people to have an opinion and share it with others. I just hate to see people be unrealistic or demand a status quo just because it benefited them personally. ------------------------------- The fox chases for her meal, but the rabbit runs for her life.
Sorgenbinder	Posted - 2011.06.21 15:34:00 - [367] Edited by: Sorgenbinder on 21/06/2011 15:34:41 Originally by: Sheila Shenrose Originally by: Sorgenbinder Edited by: Sorgenbinder on 21/06/2011 15:11:03 Originally by: Lee Anderson Originally by: Seloena guys.... you are talking about 'downloading patch'. Where the hell you found patch from TQ 267203 -> 271273 ? latest patch and its working (windows) Tried downloading this and got: Some installation files are corrupt. Please download a fresh copy and retry the installation. Extracting EVEPREMIUM.6.45.267203-7.10.271273.7z CRC failed in EVEPREMIUM.6.45.267203-7.10.271273.7z Unexpected end of archive Tried again, and got the same error message. So am going to wait until the patch is OFFICIALLY officially released. Hey ho. friend of mine had same problem with the checksum error on download. he used internet explorer (32bit) for the download. i'm using opera built-in download manager and for me it worked easily. not sure if the browser built-in download manager affects this, but who knows :). I wish I was a bit more techie and could understand what you just typed...! I just clicked on the link and it autoran (6 month old machine running Windows 7)
Xannder Phienyx Minmatar Sygma Six	Posted - 2011.06.21 15:34:00 - [368] Originally by: Ravcharas Did bookmarks on overview get pushed back again? :( Ooooo. I hadn't seen this idea before. I like that. That's a good one. I hope they don't push this back for too much longer.
01011 101	Posted - 2011.06.21 15:34:00 - [369] Originally by: Lorin Edehiel Originally by: Clementine A Originally by: Lorin Edehiel Originally by: Clementine A It's quite instructing reading this forum each time a major update occurs. There's always the bunch of embittered conservatives ranting about the new features to be introduced, like old timers remembering the "good old times". Bad news, guys, this kind of thing happens all the time. This is called evolution. Guess what, according to Robert Charles Darwin those who can't adapt just disappear :) Marche ou crFve. that evol-idea applies to CCCP too, mate not only us, clients. if they go too far with one expansion... ... you'll leave and many will be happy to take your hangar not only i will leave. many good players i knew gave up on this soft/service a long time ago (around 2007-2008). good pilots with experience, brains and ideas. nowadays server is full of noobs/ret.4rds. basicly since 2008 it's down hill all the time. Welcome to Barbies in space. wow Lorin, what a generalisation Good luck with your future endeavors. Can I have your eve possessions if they have little value to you now?
IPX One	Posted - 2011.06.21 15:35:00 - [370] I am so glad that CCP launches a big expansion every six month! And I like the idea that i don't pay for it at all!!

Cheroth Morachi	Posted - 2011.06.21 15:35:00 - [371] Originally by: Lorin Edehiel Originally by: Clementine A Originally by: Lorin Edehiel Originally by: Clementine A It's quite instructing reading this forum each time a major update occurs. There's always the bunch of embittered conservatives ranting about the new features to be introduced, like old timers remembering the "good old times". Bad news, guys, this kind of thing happens all the time. This is called evolution. Guess what, according to Robert Charles Darwin those who can't adapt just disappear :) Marche ou crFve. that evol-idea applies to CCCP too, mate not only us, clients. if they go too far with one expansion... ... you'll leave and many will be happy to take your hangar not only i will leave. many good players i knew gave up on this soft/service a long time ago (around 2007-2008). good pilots with experience, brains and ideas. nowadays server is full of noobs/ret.4rds. basicly since 2008 it's down hill all the time. Welcome to Barbies in space. BYE!
Yulinki Atavuli Minmatar Caldari Investment and Security Industries Innovia Alliance	Posted - 2011.06.21 15:35:00 - [372] i can't believe people are *****ing about glitches being fixed that makes someone invincible. suck it up, if you found a glitch and you exploit it you would have to be really naive to think it wouldn't be fixed at some point in a patch. and about CQ i understand some people have been playing since the beginning, and they don't NEED CQ. that is entirely logical. but i think in time you will have fun with it. like when full incarna comes out i doubt you will complain about setting up a corp office with exotic dancers for eye candy. just imagine being able to sit down with reds to formalize a cease-fire. or going out and getting drunk with your friends. i'm just asking for people to be open-minded. oh and the graphical requirements, i see that as a problem for alot. especially for people using 8 boxes. they say it won't effect gameplay as much as one would think. but, i guess we will have to see.
Fling Achu	Posted - 2011.06.21 15:36:00 - [373] Originally by: Lorin Edehiel Originally by: Clementine A Originally by: Lorin Edehiel Originally by: Clementine A It's quite instructing reading this forum each time a major update occurs. There's always the bunch of embittered conservatives ranting about the new features to be introduced, like old timers remembering the "good old times". Bad news, guys, this kind of thing happens all the time. This is called evolution. Guess what, according to Robert Charles Darwin those who can't adapt just disappear :) Marche ou crFve. that evol-idea applies to CCCP too, mate not only us, clients. if they go too far with one expansion... ... you'll leave and many will be happy to take your hangar not only i will leave. many good players i knew gave up on this soft/service a long time ago (around 2007-2008). good pilots with experience, brains and ideas. nowadays server is full of noobs/ret.4rds. basicly since 2008 it's down hill all the time. Welcome to Barbies in space. Do you want some cheese with that whine?
crymyname	Posted - 2011.06.21 15:37:00 - [374] Originally by: 01011 101 Originally by: cdr cleaver Well CCP it looks like youve done a good one on us this time doesn't it !!!... Here I am with a brand new computer the very best I could afford to buy, and guess what ?? its got an AMD card in it !! (Asus AMD Radeon HD 6950 DirectCU II 2GB Graphics Card)I had this new computer custom built for me so I could get as much game play out of eve that I could, and what have you lot just done?? screwed around with the damn graphics that's what !! what's the point in folks upgrading there computers, have you lot got something against AMD / ATI?? just 1 question for you lot now WHY??????...I suspect you have your hands in NVIDIA'S pocket as well have you ... NOT HAPPY... I would suspect the game will run well with hardly any difference for you compared to Nvidia users? Some minor features arn't compatible and it is partly to do with the AMD/ATI cards isn't it? it's to do with nvida not ati/amd ..they pay cash and give the designers top end cards to use and in return ccp forget how to code for ati/amd. this way nvidia can say look are cards are the best which is very poor play ... there own cards will over heat and die ask those that go on the test server ..
XEcuTioneRUK Gallente Aliastra	Posted - 2011.06.21 15:37:00 - [375] Just an off topic thought: If EVE folder is currently 7.69GB, WTF is it gunna be after this expansion??
FinaI Destination	Posted - 2011.06.21 15:39:00 - [376] Originally by: XEcuTioneRUK Just an off topic thought: If EVE folder is currently 7.69GB, WTF is it gunna be after this expansion?? arround 50 bucs for 1 TB if 8 gb is too much LOL
CrazyConflict	Posted - 2011.06.21 15:39:00 - [377] So does anyone know when they are going to release the patch
01011 101	Posted - 2011.06.21 15:39:00 - [378] Originally by: crymyname Originally by: 01011 101 Originally by: cdr cleaver Well CCP it looks like youve done a good one on us this time doesn't it !!!... Here I am with a brand new computer the very best I could afford to buy, and guess what ?? its got an AMD card in it !! (Asus AMD Radeon HD 6950 DirectCU II 2GB Graphics Card)I had this new computer custom built for me so I could get as much game play out of eve that I could, and what have you lot just done?? screwed around with the damn graphics that's what !! what's the point in folks upgrading there computers, have you lot got something against AMD / ATI?? just 1 question for you lot now WHY??????...I suspect you have your hands in NVIDIA'S pocket as well have you ... NOT HAPPY... I would suspect the game will run well with hardly any difference for you compared to Nvidia users? Some minor features arn't compatible and it is partly to do with the AMD/ATI cards isn't it? it's to do with nvida not ati/amd ..they pay cash and give the designers top end cards to use and in return ccp forget how to code for ati/amd. this way nvidia can say look are cards are the best which is very poor play ... there own cards will over heat and die ask those that go on the test server .. Interesting news for me, I would not have thought that the cards would overheat and not rather throttle back, unless they are modified however?
Rowan Kakuro	Posted - 2011.06.21 15:41:00 - [379] Here is an idea, why not put a UTC time clock on the eve website. I have many of my friends ask for the translation time. Would it be that hard to install a clock? And is it true that the turrets will retract now?
Bart Fast	Posted - 2011.06.21 15:41:00 - [380] Originally by: XEcuTioneRUK Just an off topic thought: If EVE folder is currently 7.69GB, WTF is it gunna be after this expansion?? Mac client has gone from 8.4 to 9.46GB

Zi Yu San	Posted - 2011.06.21 15:41:00 - [381] Hmm... I think that they are experiencing issues with the software itself. It sounds like Incarna may not be ready really, when you think about the fact they didn't seem to make the Video Card Compatability very broad, and it seems that the actual list of the updates goals seem to be a bit lack luster. I am all for the direction Incarna is going, but I don't think it is ready for us guys... I think CCP needs to go back to the development table, and work out the bugs better, and make Incarna more complete. More importantly, with what Incarna offers right now, and how it looks graphically, I don't think the majority of players will be inspired by it. I think we should revert back to Incursion for awhile longer until Incarna is more complete.
Ichibanlove	Posted - 2011.06.21 15:43:00 - [382] sweet role it out
01011 101	Posted - 2011.06.21 15:43:00 - [383] Edited by: 01011 101 on 21/06/2011 15:44:42 Originally by: FinaI Destination Originally by: XEcuTioneRUK Just an off topic thought: If EVE folder is currently 7.69GB, WTF is it gunna be after this expansion?? arround 50 bucs for 1 TB if 8 gb is too much LOL The majority of data in the patch is replacement data for the changeover to a newer/better/ or more intricate programming I would have thought? the packaged full download (not update) is hovering on upwards of 5gb? Edit: moved a word from being plural to singular
Uzguz	Posted - 2011.06.21 15:43:00 - [384] To all of you leaving the game for whatever reason you have.. can i have your stuff? Thanks!
Jeneral Jane	Posted - 2011.06.21 15:44:00 - [385] Originally by: Rowan Kakuro Here is an idea, why not put a UTC time clock on the eve website. Forum times are shown in UTC, it doesn't take a degree in rocket science to figure out the translation. Go back to school.
Lorin Edehiel Northmoor Inc.	Posted - 2011.06.21 15:45:00 - [386] Originally by: 01011 101 wow Lorin, what a generalisation Good luck with your future endeavors. Can I have your eve possessions if they have little value to you now? "Whoever dies with the most toys wins" ? i feel pity for you, kiddo.
Terrible Karma	Posted - 2011.06.21 15:45:00 - [387] I heard warp bubbles can be anchored in low sec on the test server. It's not in the patch notes. Is it a stealth 'fix' for low sec???
Jessica Marie Parker	Posted - 2011.06.21 15:45:00 - [388] Originally by: AVATAR AIDA At fanfest, someone asked a dev about Captain's Quarters for POS's, the answer was no, but then a comment was made on how we will be able to change T3 subsystems at a POS. Don't see anything about that in the patch notes though... Is that not coming yet? ): Or was it accidentally forgotten in the notes? just as you can do refit your ship at the ship maintenance array you will be able to refit the t3 modules is what i'm thinking you will be able to do.
CrazyConflict	Posted - 2011.06.21 15:45:00 - [389] LOL
night shiftstar	Posted - 2011.06.21 15:46:00 - [390] several years have pass, and finally, as requested a zillion times, we will b able to walk in the stations ! I see that some people don't like the idea of "getting out", but, cmon guys!!! - this isnt like the real live, were u dont like ure selfs enough to mingle "the other" in a constructive way nor have the guts to do otherwise (thats why u can build u're avatar the way u like). Never the less, the rest of us are looking forward to be out there, even if our pc's dont hold it that well. However, I don't see this as good if some graphic cards and cpu wont b abble to function. What is that? another allowed "profession" in EvE? If so, u better fix this fast. There are limits even for "piracy". (just like account AND servers hacking...) I also would like to congrat CCP for the wonderful recent job whit the agents, learning ****y skills, tutorial, bpo/c, market and contracts. I remember the day tutorials and most everything was just about to undock and that was it; new comers was just unfairly ready to jump in to the mouth of the lazy geeky-wana-b-sharks in every possible way. I have see plenty decent people loosing interest in EvE and leave due to that. bravo CCP, u guys are the best! some one must build the thingys to be destroyed later, thats ow the market goes. Its more difficult to scam now and more things and pilots to explode (and kill) will be available soon. for the other professions, well, they talk now, but meh... its just a mater of time to see ninja dudes (nothing against them really, sounds fun in fact) and all the other low end species street walking the stations...

Cheroth Morachi	Posted - 2011.06.21 15:47:00 - [391] Edited by: Cheroth Morachi on 21/06/2011 15:47:00 Originally by: Lorin Edehiel Originally by: 01011 101 wow Lorin, what a generalisation Good luck with your future endeavors. Can I have your eve possessions if they have little value to you now? "Whoever dies with the most toys wins" ? i feel pity for you, kiddo. Yes, because imaginary s--t in a video game counts as "stuff." Haven't you left yet?
XEcuTioneRUK Gallente Aliastra	Posted - 2011.06.21 15:47:00 - [392] Edited by: XEcuTioneRUK on 21/06/2011 15:47:32 Originally by: FinaI Destination Originally by: XEcuTioneRUK Just an off topic thought: If EVE folder is currently 7.69GB, WTF is it gunna be after this expansion?? arround 50 bucs for 1 TB if 8 gb is too much LOL mine is already 1T, size aint a problem, I just wanted to calculate DL time to work out when I might get on EVE today
Drizzd	Posted - 2011.06.21 15:48:00 - [393] Edited by: Drizzd on 21/06/2011 15:49:08 latest patch and its working (windows) CrazyConflict: here's link to the official patch - dont download with IE 32 bit ... Patch will usually expand eve folder by some (50) mbytes ... downloading whole client is about 5 gbytes . as ccp has announced that they had to split it into 3 files because of 4 gbyte border for archive files
Darwin Edison	Posted - 2011.06.21 15:48:00 - [394] Originally by: Rowan Kakuro Here is an idea, why not put a UTC time clock on the eve website. I have many of my friends ask for the translation time. Would it be that hard to install a clock? Is it really that hard to do the math or to Google the time in UTC? If so, there are plenty of clock widgets available for just about any desktop.
Yulinki Atavuli Minmatar Caldari Investment and Security Industries Innovia Alliance	Posted - 2011.06.21 15:48:00 - [395] Originally by: cdr cleaver Well CCP it looks like youve done a good one on us this time doesn't it !!!... Here I am with a brand new computer the very best I could afford to buy, and guess what ?? its got an AMD card in it !! (Asus AMD Radeon HD 6950 DirectCU II 2GB Graphics Card)I had this new computer custom built for me so I could get as much game play out of eve that I could, and what have you lot just done?? screwed around with the damn graphics that's what !! what's the point in folks upgrading there computers, have you lot got something against AMD / ATI?? just 1 question for you lot now WHY??????...I suspect you have your hands in NVIDIA'S pocket as well have you ... NOT HAPPY... ATI cards suck. they are cheap. next time spend a couple extra dollars and save up for nvidia. you'll get your money's worth.
Hakaru Ishiwara Minmatar Republic Military School	Posted - 2011.06.21 15:48:00 - [396] Originally by: IPX One I am so glad that CCP launches a big expansion every six month! And I like the idea that i don't pay for it at all!! That is incorrect. Either we pay for these "expansions" with our subscription fees or these projects are funded separately though investment returns or other sources of capital. In short, there is a very good chance that the monthly subscription fees or purchased PLEXes are funding this software development work. Nothing in business comes for free. Nothing.
Advocatus Diablo	Posted - 2011.06.21 15:49:00 - [397] Now here's and idea.... we know that Eve will hook up with Dust and the space jocks will be able to interact/give missions to the fot soldirers. Take it one step further and hook Eve to WoW so we can doomsday them orc loving bastards
Xterea	Posted - 2011.06.21 15:49:00 - [398] Has anyone mentioned that the "primary language" filter in the new corporation recruitment window has a very limited range of languages. This will probably result in a fair amount of corporations being unable to advertise as a result of their primary language not being available. If a corporation which only speaks Swedish wanted to advertise, what would it do?
FinaI Destination	Posted - 2011.06.21 15:50:00 - [399] Originally by: Darwin Edison Originally by: Rowan Kakuro Here is an idea, why not put a UTC time clock on the eve website. I have many of my friends ask for the translation time. Would it be that hard to install a clock? Is it really that hard to do the math or to Google the time in UTC? If so, there are plenty of clock widgets available for just about any desktop. I think it's way simpler just to think in eve-time If they say 21:00 then they talk about 21:00 eve time just my 0.2 ct
Lorin Edehiel Northmoor Inc.	Posted - 2011.06.21 15:50:00 - [400] Originally by: Cheroth Morachi Edited by: Cheroth Morachi on 21/06/2011 15:47:00 Originally by: Lorin Edehiel Originally by: 01011 101 wow Lorin, what a generalisation Good luck with your future endeavors. Can I have your eve possessions if they have little value to you now? "Whoever dies with the most toys wins" ? i feel pity for you, kiddo. Yes, because imaginary s--t in a video game counts as "stuff." Haven't you left yet? ..so why bother to ask for it, like a 5 year old?

01011 101	Posted - 2011.06.21 15:50:00 - [401] Edited by: 01011 101 on 21/06/2011 15:50:59 Originally by: Lorin Edehiel Originally by: 01011 101 wow Lorin, what a generalisation Good luck with your future endeavors. Can I have your eve possessions if they have little value to you now? "Whoever dies with the most toys wins" ? i feel pity for you, kiddo. I was making a joke at the "can I haz ur Stuffs" phrase, through rephrasing it in a more eloquent version. Why say something silly like "I feel pity" and refering to me as being a "kiddo" It says something about your maturity. It also conflicts with what you said earlier about players with "Experience, Brains, and Ideas"... a maturity of which you do not seem to represent through your phraseology.
Yulinki Atavuli Minmatar Caldari Investment and Security Industries Innovia Alliance	Posted - 2011.06.21 15:50:00 - [402] Originally by: Advocatus Diablo Take it one step further and hook Eve to WoW so we can doomsday them orc loving bastards i second that!!
MuppetsSlayed Minmatar	Posted - 2011.06.21 15:51:00 - [403] I am not a big fan of CQ. Big waste of your time that in my opinion could have been spent on improving internet spaceships, you know the thing we pay you a subscription to play. I am somewhat concerned by my PC's inability to run more than 2 clients withour really bad lag with near strobing frame rates when I went onto sisi looking at CQ. I subscribe to and regularily run 4 accounts, atleast one of these is always docked attending market duties. If there isnt a way of turning this off it looks like I may have to cancel half my subscriptions as you have made a semmingly useless feature take up an exhaustive amount of resources and my pc isnt up to running all the accoutns any more.
Jeneral Jane	Posted - 2011.06.21 15:52:00 - [404] Originally by: Xterea Has anyone mentioned that the "primary language" filter in the new corporation recruitment window has a very limited range of languages. English and Russian are all we need in EVE.
Cheroth Morachi	Posted - 2011.06.21 15:52:00 - [405] Originally by: Lorin Edehiel Originally by: Cheroth Morachi Edited by: Cheroth Morachi on 21/06/2011 15:47:00 Originally by: Lorin Edehiel Originally by: 01011 101 wow Lorin, what a generalisation Good luck with your future endeavors. Can I have your eve possessions if they have little value to you now? "Whoever dies with the most toys wins" ? i feel pity for you, kiddo. Yes, because imaginary s--t in a video game counts as "stuff." Haven't you left yet? ..so why bother to ask for it, like a 5 year old? I didn't. Learn to read.
Zahin Mezeas	Posted - 2011.06.21 15:52:00 - [406] Can anyone tell me why my client isn't patching itself? It's telling me that my version isn't compatible with Tranquility? Any ideas guys?
Assaj Ventress	Posted - 2011.06.21 15:53:00 - [407] Originally by: XEcuTioneRUK Just an off topic thought: If EVE folder is currently 7.69GB, WTF is it gunna be after this expansion?? Test Server folder which runs the same build, takes 8,7Gb for me, so TQ should be the same -----------------
Sheila Shenrose	Posted - 2011.06.21 15:53:00 - [408] Originally by: Rowan Kakuro Here is an idea, why not put a UTC time clock on the eve website. I have many of my friends ask for the translation time. Would it be that hard to install a clock? And is it true that the turrets will retract now? you people play eve a lot. if you look at the lower left corner, theres a clock. it's always there. so you should be aware of the time difference eve has to yours. and since eve times are always utc times, it makes calculating very easy :).
Glyken Touchon Gallente Independent Alchemists	Posted - 2011.06.21 15:53:00 - [409] what concerns me atm is that the first notification of a delay was at 13:10. 8 hours before the deadline. That implies it was either something major, or that there wasn't a margin factored into the original 19:00 deadline. I'll go with the latter. bets on how many extended DTs & client updates in the next week? ______ When the forums asked CCP for transparency, we didn't mean the HUD...
spockelite Caldari Eye of God Intergalactic Exports Group	Posted - 2011.06.21 15:53:00 - [410] Instead of nerfing T3 ships to probable, you should have nerfed the amount of time a ship can stay cloaked in one system. Thus making it harder for these cloaky greivers to go afk cloaked and force them to fight. Plus seeing as how after fitting a T3 ship decent it cost more than a carrier, Being unprobable was one of the nice benifits that made it worth the price. If CCP wants to make this game more interesting how about nerfing down the alliance and power blocks by limiting the number of people one alliance can have. You can also nerf the amount that can be blue to these alliances. If any ship in this game needs a nerf its the super caps. Being able to take an entire region over with 40 ships is pure insanity. Recreate the role of the Dreads so as to let the little guy have the chance to take these ships out a little easier thus making taking and holding space a more even playing field. For those of us who dont own Bot herds and Tech moons to purchase 40 Titans is impossible!!! __ Hawaiian Pride

avorus Amarr Dragon's Breath Security Force	Posted - 2011.06.21 15:53:00 - [411] Originally by: Yulinki Atavuli Originally by: cdr cleaver Well CCP it looks like youve done a good one on us this time doesn't it !!!... Here I am with a brand new computer the very best I could afford to buy, and guess what ?? its got an AMD card in it !! (Asus AMD Radeon HD 6950 DirectCU II 2GB Graphics Card)I had this new computer custom built for me so I could get as much game play out of eve that I could, and what have you lot just done?? screwed around with the damn graphics that's what !! what's the point in folks upgrading there computers, have you lot got something against AMD / ATI?? just 1 question for you lot now WHY??????...I suspect you have your hands in NVIDIA'S pocket as well have you ... NOT HAPPY... ATI cards suck. they are cheap. next time spend a couple extra dollars and save up for nvidia. you'll get your money's worth. Ha you said exactly what i was thinking. if you want a graphics card go nvidia, if u want a crappy piece of wanna be hardware go ATI... Simples.
01011 101	Posted - 2011.06.21 15:53:00 - [412] Originally by: Lorin Edehiel Originally by: Cheroth Morachi Edited by: Cheroth Morachi on 21/06/2011 15:47:00 Originally by: Lorin Edehiel Originally by: 01011 101 wow Lorin, what a generalisation Good luck with your future endeavors. Can I have your eve possessions if they have little value to you now? "Whoever dies with the most toys wins" ? i feel pity for you, kiddo. Yes, because imaginary s--t in a video game counts as "stuff." Haven't you left yet? ..so why bother to ask for it, like a 5 year old? Please see previous comment.
Christiandk4400	Posted - 2011.06.21 15:53:00 - [413] Originally by: Zahin Mezeas Can anyone tell me why my client isn't patching itself? It's telling me that my version isn't compatible with Tranquility? Any ideas guys? Could it be that the server is not open for the public yet?
Drizzd	Posted - 2011.06.21 15:54:00 - [414] Edited by: Drizzd on 21/06/2011 15:54:21 Originally by: MuppetsSlayed I am not a big fan of CQ. Big waste of your time that in my opinion could have been spent on improving internet spaceships, you know the thing we pay you a subscription to play. I am somewhat concerned by my PC's inability to run more than 2 clients withour really bad lag with near strobing frame rates when I went onto sisi looking at CQ. I subscribe to and regularily run 4 accounts, atleast one of these is always docked attending market duties. If there isnt a way of turning this off it looks like I may have to cancel half my subscriptions as you have made a semmingly useless feature take up an exhaustive amount of resources and my pc isnt up to running all the accoutns any more. how about setting "internal effects" (advanced graphics) to "low" ? Christian : download the patch via the link posted earlier (and multiple times)
EliteM Your Hearts Are Justified Tonight	Posted - 2011.06.21 15:54:00 - [415] Originally by: Advocatus Diablo Now here's and idea.... we know that Eve will hook up with Dust and the space jocks will be able to interact/give missions to the fot soldirers. Take it one step further and hook Eve to WoW so we can doomsday them orc loving bastards I third that!
MuppetsSlayed Minmatar	Posted - 2011.06.21 15:54:00 - [416] Originally by: Xterea Has anyone mentioned that the "primary language" filter in the new corporation recruitment window has a very limited range of languages. This will probably result in a fair amount of corporations being unable to advertise as a result of their primary language not being available. If a corporation which only speaks Swedish wanted to advertise, what would it do? write a recruitment advert in english like everyone else.
CrazyConflict	Posted - 2011.06.21 15:54:00 - [417] Thank for the patch
Hrothgar Doran	Posted - 2011.06.21 15:55:00 - [418] Originally by: crymyname Originally by: 01011 101 Originally by: Zi Yu San Originally by: Crest Cutty Worst update ever. 3 meaningful changes (jump bridges, probing, unprobable ship nerf) and the rest is seriously worthless stuff (or stuff that only has a value to CCP as it paves the way for them to get deeper in our pockets). I would have loved an updated that dealt with ship balance issues (angels ships, assault frigs, super caps, rails, gallente CS's), the technetium problem, lag, 0.0/wh industry, fighter/fb response, t3 frigs, faction battle cruisers... Instead I pay for glorified barbies online and a slew of minor bug fixes (and don't tell me this crap is free, everything is monetized and passed down to the consumer). Way to be in touch with your player base guys. Only bright side is hopefully this brings in some noobs from hello-kitty online that I can harvest delicious tears from with when I exploit their limited understanding of eve's complex set of rules. The type of people who will seriously enjoy playing space dress-up are not the same players that enjoy lawless space pirates online. Stop trying to change my game into something that it is not!!! It's obvious you do not grasp the big picture of this development. This is the begining of a new realm of the game, where players can use characters as well, and go onto the planets, opening the door to planetary development and combat. I'm glad some players are unblinkered and are seeing this if wanted to play on a planet i'd buy bf3.... its a space game there doing it for the great cash cow ... Good lord, you'd think CCP aren't allowed to make money. It's not like they are a business, selling a product or anything...
Mr Cleann Caldari State War Academy	Posted - 2011.06.21 15:55:00 - [419] I just hope that when I log on this afternoon, That CCP didn't implement its sadistic sense of humor. By having us train the skills for crawling, ducking, bending, walking, running, jumping, climbing and grasping. I am fully expecting to have to train those skills. Be the kind of man that when your feet hit the floor each morning, the devil says "Oh crap, he's up!"
Prof eXe	Posted - 2011.06.21 15:56:00 - [420] Originally by: Darwin Edison Originally by: Rowan Kakuro Here is an idea, why not put a UTC time clock on the eve website. I have many of my friends ask for the translation time. Would it be that hard to install a clock? Is it really that hard to do the math or to Google the time in UTC? If so, there are plenty of clock widgets available for just about any desktop. DONT WORRY!! The new forums have EVE Time clock on them :)

maslakob	Posted - 2011.06.21 15:56:00 - [421] Originally by: Crest Cutty Worst update ever. 3 meaningful changes (jump bridges, probing, unprobable ship nerf) and the rest is seriously worthless stuff (or stuff that only has a value to CCP as it paves the way for them to get deeper in our pockets). I would have loved an updated that dealt with ship balance issues (angels ships, assault frigs, super caps, rails, gallente CS's), the technetium problem, lag, 0.0/wh industry, fighter/fb response, t3 frigs, faction battle cruisers... Instead I pay for glorified barbies online and a slew of minor bug fixes (and don't tell me this crap is free, everything is monetized and passed down to the consumer). Way to be in touch with your player base guys. Only bright side is hopefully this brings in some noobs from hello-kitty online that I can harvest delicious tears from with when I exploit their limited understanding of eve's complex set of rules. The type of people who will seriously enjoy playing space dress-up are not the same players that enjoy lawless space pirates online. Stop trying to change my game into something that it is not!!! Agree..... what you posted in those brackets there "(angels ships, assault frigs, super caps, rails, gallente CS's)" really needs to be bumped up the CCP priority list. However, we shouldn't complain about free updates - particularity ones that open doors to more content in the future. Hopefully the next patch addresses those well known problems.
01011 101	Posted - 2011.06.21 15:56:00 - [422] Originally by: Cheroth Morachi "Whoever dies with the most toys wins" ? i feel pity for you, kiddo. Yes, because imaginary s--t in a video game counts as "stuff." Haven't you left yet? ..so why bother to ask for it, like a 5 year old? I didn't. Learn to read. I think he's just trying to provoke players
Feather Hawk	Posted - 2011.06.21 15:57:00 - [423] He who dies with the most toys is still dead! Leave nothing but the peanuts in your poop!
Assaj Ventress	Posted - 2011.06.21 15:57:00 - [424] Originally by: Glyken Touchon what concerns me atm is that the first notification of a delay was at 13:10. 8 hours before the deadline. That implies it was either something major, or that there wasn't a margin factored into the original 19:00 deadline. After the installation there is the testing phase where you see people online but the server not accepting connections. This testing takes a lot if time, and usually they know how much, so they just factor this in the complete DT -----------------
Mr Cleann Caldari State War Academy	Posted - 2011.06.21 15:57:00 - [425] I just hope that when I log on this afternoon, That CCP didn't implement its sadistic sense of humor. By having us train the skills for crawling, ducking, bending, walking, running, jumping, climbing and grasping. I am fully expecting to have to train those skills. Be the kind of man that when your feet hit the floor each morning, the devil says "Oh crap, he's up!"
Herring Caldari Pimpology	Posted - 2011.06.21 15:58:00 - [426] Originally by: Uzguz To all of you leaving the game for whatever reason you have.. can i have your stuff? Thanks! Yes. O wait, I'd have to be able to login to give it to you wouldn't I? I guess no :D.
Urgg Boolean	Posted - 2011.06.21 15:58:00 - [427] Originally by: Alabugin Originally by: 01011 101 Originally by: Zi Yu San We should be grateful that CCP continues to develop and evolve this game. It is what makes this game continue to be interesting. Unless you like things to stay the same always, in which case I am sure you just love WOW, or even better Sony's "Planetside". These are excellent choices, I admit, but I like what CCP is doing with Eve myself. I feel the same. In general, the updates made to EVE compared to WOW are greater in scope imo. Not to mention we are not charged for the updates. I don't know guys : seems like only some of the changes have gameplay impact, but most are focusing on profits for CCP. Aurum = microtransactions. The 3D Captain's Quarters and organic visuals of WiS changes only catch EvE up to what the rest of the gaming companies were doing 5 years ago. Eye Candy + Tutorial changes = attracting new players = profits. And all this new eye candy is not useable if running multiple clients (from what I have read in this thread). All the changes for the upcoming Dust = focus on profits. Granted, most think the T3 nerf is a good thing for balance, but I think they eliminated the coolest feature of T3's because all other functions can be done by far cheaper ships. Changes to 0.0 with Dominion were essentially reversed and eliminated. 0.0 is still locked down. PI may become "big corps only" if they allow destruction of installations with DUST, as in, no wimpy solo player can afford to defend their installations and well established corps in their 0.0 safe zones will be the only ones doing PI to any meaningful extent (maybe). Six new mission? Not really - no creative PvE - Incursion is a cool idea, but it is still essentially shooter missions with enhanced NPC AI - nothing new or creative. Enhancing the game? I don't think so. Enhancing profits? <-- this.
Lorin Edehiel Northmoor Inc.	Posted - 2011.06.21 15:58:00 - [428] Originally by: 01011 101 I was making a joke at the "can I haz ur Stuffs" phrase, through rephrasing it in a more eloquent version. Why say something silly like "I feel pity" and refering to me as being a "kiddo" It says something about your maturity. It also conflicts with what you said earlier about players with "Experience, Brains, and Ideas"... a maturity of which you do not seem to represent through your phraseology. your logic is valid. i am an old fool. those who left had far more brains than i have and predicted what direction was eve going. and that direction will be... growing income. it's about money and nothing else. since avg. IQ of players is dropping sharply nowadays, cccp is trying to adapt itself and not go out of business. hence the idea of changing eve into wow. making this game easier and simpler with every patch. eye-candy effects over content and quality. till this very day i had to CLICK to do what i wanted... now i will have to WALK to be able to CLICK to DO what i want... if that's evolution in terms of GUI...
RTSAvalanche	Posted - 2011.06.21 15:58:00 - [429] twiddling thumbs wondering if I should pry my eyes open anther hour (3am) or pack it in and get some much needed rest.. EVE related choices are by far some of lifes hardest!!
Widow maker2	Posted - 2011.06.21 15:59:00 - [430] I wonder when they bring out walkin in stations there will be new skills like pickpocketin lev5 and burgalry etc so you can pinch other peeps stuff. should be interestin whatever they do

Masquitar	Posted - 2011.06.21 15:59:00 - [431] Originally by: avorus Originally by: Yulinki Atavuli Originally by: cdr cleaver Well CCP it looks like youve done a good one on us this time doesn't it !!!... Here I am with a brand new computer the very best I could afford to buy, and guess what ?? its got an AMD card in it !! (Asus AMD Radeon HD 6950 DirectCU II 2GB Graphics Card)I had this new computer custom built for me so I could get as much game play out of eve that I could, and what have you lot just done?? screwed around with the damn graphics that's what !! what's the point in folks upgrading there computers, have you lot got something against AMD / ATI?? just 1 question for you lot now WHY??????...I suspect you have your hands in NVIDIA'S pocket as well have you ... NOT HAPPY... ATI cards suck. they are cheap. next time spend a couple extra dollars and save up for nvidia. you'll get your money's worth. Ha you said exactly what i was thinking. if you want a graphics card go nvidia, if u want a crappy piece of wanna be hardware go ATI... Simples. Correction... If you want to be ripped off, go for Nvidia. If you want value for your money: ATI. I'm not too concerned about CCP favouring Nvidia at the moment. They wouldn't push it too far as ****ing off ATI users too much would be bad for business. If they want to help Nvidia sell more overpriced cards, and if it helps them develop a better product in the long run, fair play to them.
Clementine A	Posted - 2011.06.21 15:59:00 - [432] Originally by: Mr Cleann I just hope that when I log on this afternoon, That CCP didn't implement its sadistic sense of humor. By having us train the skills for crawling, ducking, bending, walking, running, jumping, climbing and grasping. I am fully expecting to have to train those skills.
Drizzd	Posted - 2011.06.21 15:59:00 - [433] Well the LoginScreen Animation looks cool and makes me lick my fingers for the actual gameplay
EvilDead12 Amarr The Synergy Cascade Probable	Posted - 2011.06.21 15:59:00 - [434] if u are leaving game then send all stuff to evildead12 please thank you very much and isk
01011 101	Posted - 2011.06.21 16:00:00 - [435] Originally by: Mr Cleann I just hope that when I log on this afternoon, That CCP didn't implement its sadistic sense of humor. By having us train the skills for crawling, ducking, bending, walking, running, jumping, climbing and grasping. I am fully expecting to have to train those skills. How about a a few days of the "Aura learning agent" teaching you how to grasp, crawl, walk, ....and it is compulsory.
Vanessa Powervain	Posted - 2011.06.21 16:00:00 - [436] Thanks for the mac link as well, however, seems like i'm in trouble. Used an old image of EVE #247655, patched it to #267203 and patched once more to INCARNA #271273 Now, that worked just great. Shouldn't be the problem. However, when launching the game client, it doesn't show any EULA that I could accept :/ I've had the same problem on Singularity client before, worked around it by copying some configuration files out of the Local Settings/Application Data/CCP/EVE/c_program_files_ccp_eve_tranquility/settings/ folder from the old client into the new, that removed the request to accept the EULA. now, I'm a little disappointed that incarna FINAL still had that problem, any known issue to you guys? using mac pro with mac os 10.6.7, ATI HD4890 Thanks =) V.P.
CARB0N FIBER	Posted - 2011.06.21 16:00:00 - [437] Originally by: Vantaanya Edited by: Vantaanya on 21/06/2011 06:07:04 Edited by: Vantaanya on 21/06/2011 05:43:03 Edited by: Vantaanya on 21/06/2011 05:40:54 Keep the good things coming CCP. You might get alot of hate for this update, but there are still people out there who think you are doing GREAT things. Keep it up :) slurp-slurp
elegance refined	Posted - 2011.06.21 16:01:00 - [438] Originally by: Hakaru Ishiwara Originally by: IPX One I am so glad that CCP launches a big expansion every six month! And I like the idea that i don't pay for it at all!! That is incorrect. Either we pay for these "expansions" with our subscription fees or these projects are funded separately though investment returns or other sources of capital. In short, there is a very good chance that the monthly subscription fees or purchased PLEXes are funding this software development work. Nothing in business comes for free. Nothing. Kudos for stating the obvious ! I just cant stop lmfao every time thread trolls say ccp is so kind to give us free patches , it is so apparent all they care about is their wallets ! Take this useless ken and barbie crap they are currently adding to draw in even more newb-tards , FIX THE DAMN LAG , so we can melt face without crashing the server , PLEASE
eaterofcheese FACTION Inc.	Posted - 2011.06.21 16:01:00 - [439] Hmm. I think I shall acquire a small SSD drive (say 16Gb) to run EvE on. Best hope of sufficient performance without horribly expensive upgrade. Hmm. TQ uptime postponed until 21:00. Curses. -- mmmm cheese...
Kush Bluestar Caldari Kindred Oracles of Justice	Posted - 2011.06.21 16:01:00 - [440] With all of this whining and complaining about how terrible CCP is and how the game just isn't what it used to be, one would wonder just WTF are all of you doing still here? I for one, really enjoy the game and appreciate all the work that the designers have put into EVE. I'm quite sure that they try to address the major issues all while also attempting to make the game more interesting. So if sooo many of you are in mortal anguish and wish to leave EVE, I will humbly accept the Contracts that you all make to leave me your ships and mods. Thanks in advance......

Lorin Edehiel Northmoor Inc.	Posted - 2011.06.21 16:02:00 - [441] Originally by: Vantaanya Edited by: Vantaanya on 21/06/2011 06:07:04 Edited by: Vantaanya on 21/06/2011 05:43:03 Edited by: Vantaanya on 21/06/2011 05:40:54 Keep the good things coming CCP. You might get alot of hate for this update, but there are still people out there who think you are doing GREAT things. Keep it up :) ever wonder why ppl are complaining about it? or you are simply one of those ppl who are hypnotised by shinny, bright objects?
EvilDead12 Amarr The Synergy Cascade Probable	Posted - 2011.06.21 16:03:00 - [442] guys if u are leaveing i will be happy too accepty your ships /isk and /nods all in contract and into my wallet send to evildead12 or evildisaster
Drizzd	Posted - 2011.06.21 16:03:00 - [443] Originally by: Vanessa Powervain Thanks for the mac link as well, however, seems like i'm in trouble. Used an old image of EVE #247655, patched it to #267203 and patched once more to INCARNA #271273 Now, that worked just great. Shouldn't be the problem. However, when launching the game client, it doesn't show any EULA that I could accept :/ I've had the same problem on Singularity client before, worked around it by copying some configuration files out of the Local Settings/Application Data/CCP/EVE/c_program_files_ccp_eve_tranquility/settings/ folder from the old client into the new, that removed the request to accept the EULA. now, I'm a little disappointed that incarna FINAL still had that problem, any known issue to you guys? using mac pro with mac os 10.6.7, ATI HD4890 Thanks =) V.P. solution is easy and simple .. just RUN the OLD client once - it presents eula - and the update notice - run the update - and the eula should show properly after patching - else .. run the old client - dont install patch, accept eula, end client, restart , load patch -> ready to go
Rougue Scorpion	Posted - 2011.06.21 16:03:00 - [444] Originally by: Kush Bluestar With all of this whining and complaining about how terrible CCP is and how the game just isn't what it used to be, one would wonder just WTF are all of you doing still here? I for one, really enjoy the game and appreciate all the work that the designers have put into EVE. I'm quite sure that they try to address the major issues all while also attempting to make the game more interesting. So if sooo many of you are in mortal anguish and wish to leave EVE, I will humbly accept the Contracts that you all make to leave me your ships and mods. Thanks in advance...... How much are they payin you did you get a new Nvidia card to make this post?
XEcuTioneRUK Gallente Aliastra	Posted - 2011.06.21 16:04:00 - [445] Originally by: Mr Cleann I just hope that when I log on this afternoon, That CCP didn't implement its sadistic sense of humor. By having us train the skills for crawling, ducking, bending, walking, running, jumping, climbing and grasping. I am fully expecting to have to train those skills. +1 - That would be just typical of CCP!
Xterea	Posted - 2011.06.21 16:04:00 - [446] Edited by: Xterea on 21/06/2011 16:05:29 Originally by: MuppetsSlayed Originally by: Xterea Has anyone mentioned that the "primary language" filter in the new corporation recruitment window has a very limited range of languages. This will probably result in a fair amount of corporations being unable to advertise as a result of their primary language not being available. If a corporation which only speaks Swedish wanted to advertise, what would it do? write a recruitment advert in english like everyone else. My first language is English. I am simply stating that some corporations may be effected by this. It would be a lie for a Swedish corporation to say their primary language is English when they speak Swedish 24/7 over comms. It's practicality, you could have people joining corporations that say they speak one language but infact they speak another because it's not listed.
Mareck001 Distinguished Gentleman's Boating Club Test Alliance Please Ignore	Posted - 2011.06.21 16:05:00 - [447] Still in VIP mode, but TQ is up
EliteM Your Hearts Are Justified Tonight	Posted - 2011.06.21 16:05:00 - [448] Oh hey! It has been extended to 21:00! I wasn't expecting anything like that to happen! sarcasm Better be worth the wait...
FinaI Destination	Posted - 2011.06.21 16:05:00 - [449] Originally by: Mareck001 Still in VIP mode, but TQ is up WTB a VIP card..... :P yarrr
Clementine A	Posted - 2011.06.21 16:06:00 - [450] Originally by: Lorin Edehiel Originally by: 01011 101 I was making a joke at the "can I haz ur Stuffs" phrase, through rephrasing it in a more eloquent version. Why say something silly like "I feel pity" and refering to me as being a "kiddo" It says something about your maturity. It also conflicts with what you said earlier about players with "Experience, Brains, and Ideas"... a maturity of which you do not seem to represent through your phraseology. your logic is valid. i am an old fool. those who left had far more brains than i have and predicted what direction was eve going. and that direction will be... growing income. it's about money and nothing else. since avg. IQ of players is dropping sharply nowadays, cccp is trying to adapt itself and not go out of business. hence the idea of changing eve into wow. making this game easier and simpler with every patch. eye-candy effects over content and quality. till this very day i had to CLICK to do what i wanted... now i will have to WALK to be able to CLICK to DO what i want... if that's evolution in terms of GUI... So, please, just go click elsewhere and leave us low IQs alone :) Oh, did you know that Eisenhower was no longer the president of the united states ?

Maldranan	Posted - 2011.06.21 16:07:00 - [451] Originally by: Lorin Edehiel Originally by: 01011 101 I was making a joke at the "can I haz ur Stuffs" phrase, through rephrasing it in a more eloquent version. Why say something silly like "I feel pity" and refering to me as being a "kiddo" It says something about your maturity. It also conflicts with what you said earlier about players with "Experience, Brains, and Ideas"... a maturity of which you do not seem to represent through your phraseology. your logic is valid. i am an old fool. those who left had far more brains than i have and predicted what direction was eve going. and that direction will be... growing income. it's about money and nothing else. since avg. IQ of players is dropping sharply nowadays, cccp is trying to adapt itself and not go out of business. hence the idea of changing eve into wow. making this game easier and simpler with every patch. eye-candy effects over content and quality. till this very day i had to CLICK to do what i wanted... now i will have to WALK to be able to CLICK to DO what i want... if that's evolution in terms of GUI... Simplistic and inaccurate explanation aside, it's unfortunate that you can't understand why they can't just leave the game the way it was, or continue to do more of the same things. In this industry, if you stay the same, you lose business. A great example is the call of duty series. After 3 or 4 WWII reiterations, reviews simply started to state "how many more WWII games are we going to get? Seriously, it's been played to death". The same would happen with Eve, people would get sick of the same old content.
On3St4B	Posted - 2011.06.21 16:07:00 - [452] Edited by: On3St4B on 21/06/2011 16:08:01 Originally by: Yulinki Atavuli Originally by: cdr cleaver Well CCP it looks like youve done a good one on us this time doesn't it !!!... Here I am with a brand new computer the very best I could afford to buy, and guess what ?? its got an AMD card in it !! (Asus AMD Radeon HD 6950 DirectCU II 2GB Graphics Card)I had this new computer custom built for me so I could get as much game play out of eve that I could, and what have you lot just done?? screwed around with the damn graphics that's what !! what's the point in folks upgrading there computers, have you lot got something against AMD / ATI?? just 1 question for you lot now WHY??????...I suspect you have your hands in NVIDIA'S pocket as well have you ... NOT HAPPY... ATI cards suck. they are cheap. next time spend a couple extra dollars and save up for nvidia. you'll get your money's worth. u guys make me laugh .. first ull have no problem with the game no matter what card u use . ( i have an ati 5850 myself , the game runs like a charm , despite the " the way it was .. " logo) the logos u see at any games start up screen are paid for ( ads ) , its just a way to get ppl who dont know **** to buy ur products . ps : 1- as fot ATI sucks , i dont get paid from them or anything , at any given rig u try to make the best out of the money u spend , and ati cards have better value for money than Nvidia ( at least where i live ) . 2- yes ATI drivers are not the best thing round , but at least they dont burn ur gpu by overcklocking to get better resaults in beches thas better reviews ..
Derik Istvan	Posted - 2011.06.21 16:08:00 - [453] cries I'M GOING TO MISS YOU, SHIP SPINNINESS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! SOB SOB SOB
Archibald Creed	Posted - 2011.06.21 16:09:00 - [454] Originally by: Vanessa Powervain Thanks for the mac link as well, however, seems like i'm in trouble. Used an old image of EVE #247655, patched it to #267203 and patched once more to INCARNA #271273 Now, that worked just great. Shouldn't be the problem. However, when launching the game client, it doesn't show any EULA that I could accept :/ I've had the same problem on Singularity client before, worked around it by copying some configuration files out of the Local Settings/Application Data/CCP/EVE/c_program_files_ccp_eve_tranquility/settings/ folder from the old client into the new, that removed the request to accept the EULA. now, I'm a little disappointed that incarna FINAL still had that problem, any known issue to you guys? using mac pro with mac os 10.6.7, ATI HD4890 Thanks =) V.P. Same Problem Here. Somehow i hoped that when tranq. is back online, EULA news would show up. But these are bad news.. :-/ Running iMac 27", 3.6 - i5, 8GB, ATI HD 5750, 10.6.7
Palovana Caldari Inner Fire Inc.	Posted - 2011.06.21 16:09:00 - [455] Originally by: Mr Cleann I just hope that when I log on this afternoon, That CCP didn't implement its sadistic sense of humor. By having us train the skills for crawling, ducking, bending, walking, running, jumping, climbing and grasping. I am fully expecting to have to train those skills. I'm training Advanced Walking Upgrades V. ----- This was getting old so I removed it.
Drizzd	Posted - 2011.06.21 16:10:00 - [456] Originally by: Archibald Creed Originally by: Vanessa Powervain Thanks for the mac link as well, however, seems like i'm in trouble. Used an old image of EVE #247655, patched it to #267203 and patched once more to INCARNA #271273 Now, that worked just great. Shouldn't be the problem. However, when launching the game client, it doesn't show any EULA that I could accept :/ I've had the same problem on Singularity client before, worked around it by copying some configuration files out of the Local Settings/Application Data/CCP/EVE/c_program_files_ccp_eve_tranquility/settings/ folder from the old client into the new, that removed the request to accept the EULA. now, I'm a little disappointed that incarna FINAL still had that problem, any known issue to you guys? using mac pro with mac os 10.6.7, ATI HD4890 Thanks =) V.P. Same Problem Here. Somehow i hoped that when tranq. is back online, EULA news would show up. But these are bad news.. :-/ Running iMac 27", 3.6 - i5, 8GB, ATI HD 5750, 10.6.7 like i wrote before - run the old client -> dont install patch -> accept eula -> restard old client -> install patch -> ready to go
Lorin Edehiel Northmoor Inc.	Posted - 2011.06.21 16:11:00 - [457] Originally by: Clementine A Originally by: Lorin Edehiel Originally by: 01011 101 I was making a joke at the "can I haz ur Stuffs" phrase, through rephrasing it in a more eloquent version. Why say something silly like "I feel pity" and refering to me as being a "kiddo" It says something about your maturity. It also conflicts with what you said earlier about players with "Experience, Brains, and Ideas"... a maturity of which you do not seem to represent through your phraseology. your logic is valid. i am an old fool. those who left had far more brains than i have and predicted what direction was eve going. and that direction will be... growing income. it's about money and nothing else. since avg. IQ of players is dropping sharply nowadays, cccp is trying to adapt itself and not go out of business. hence the idea of changing eve into wow. making this game easier and simpler with every patch. eye-candy effects over content and quality. till this very day i had to CLICK to do what i wanted... now i will have to WALK to be able to CLICK to DO what i want... if that's evolution in terms of GUI... So, please, just go click elsewhere and leave us low IQs alone :) Oh, did you know that Eisenhower was no longer the president of the united states ? who?
Clementine A	Posted - 2011.06.21 16:11:00 - [458] Originally by: Archibald Creed Originally by: Vanessa Powervain Thanks for the mac link as well, however, seems like i'm in trouble. Used an old image of EVE #247655, patched it to #267203 and patched once more to INCARNA #271273 Now, that worked just great. Shouldn't be the problem. However, when launching the game client, it doesn't show any EULA that I could accept :/ I've had the same problem on Singularity client before, worked around it by copying some configuration files out of the Local Settings/Application Data/CCP/EVE/c_program_files_ccp_eve_tranquility/settings/ folder from the old client into the new, that removed the request to accept the EULA. now, I'm a little disappointed that incarna FINAL still had that problem, any known issue to you guys? using mac pro with mac os 10.6.7, ATI HD4890 Thanks =) V.P. Same Problem Here. Somehow i hoped that when tranq. is back online, EULA news would show up. But these are bad news.. :-/ Running iMac 27", 3.6 - i5, 8GB, ATI HD 5750, 10.6.7 delete ~/Library/App support/Eve online you'll loose your settings, though. Or revert the patch with time machine & wait for it to be "officially" released.
01011 101	Posted - 2011.06.21 16:11:00 - [459] Originally by: Urgg Boolean Originally by: Alabugin Originally by: 01011 101 Originally by: Zi Yu San We should be grateful that CCP continues to develop and evolve this game. It is what makes this game continue to be interesting. Unless you like things to stay the same always, in which case I am sure you just love WOW, or even better Sony's "Planetside". These are excellent choices, I admit, but I like what CCP is doing with Eve myself. I feel the same. In general, the updates made to EVE compared to WOW are greater in scope imo. Not to mention we are not charged for the updates. I don't know guys : seems like only some of the changes have gameplay impact, but most are focusing on profits for CCP. Aurum = microtransactions. The 3D Captain's Quarters and organic visuals of WiS changes only catch EvE up to what the rest of the gaming companies were doing 5 years ago. Eye Candy + Tutorial changes = attracting new players = profits. And all this new eye candy is not useable if running multiple clients (from what I have read in this thread). All the changes for the upcoming Dust = focus on profits. Granted, most think the T3 nerf is a good thing for balance, but I think they eliminated the coolest feature of T3's because all other functions can be done by far cheaper ships. Changes to 0.0 with Dominion were essentially reversed and eliminated. 0.0 is still locked down. PI may become "big corps only" if they allow destruction of installations with DUST, as in, no wimpy solo player can afford to defend their installations and well established corps in their 0.0 safe zones will be the only ones doing PI to any meaningful extent (maybe). Six new mission? Not really - no creative PvE - Incursion is a cool idea, but it is still essentially shooter missions with enhanced NPC AI - nothing new or creative. Enhancing the game? I don't think so. Enhancing profits? <-- this. The general company goal is to satisfy shareholders and generate profits. I'd hate for CCP to go bandrupt and EVE as we know it dying, only to be poorly emulated by thirdparty servers. As people have said, captains quarters is just the first initial step in a wider game environment progression. I am not arguing that there are issues and areas of gameplay that need to be improved. The "Carbon" technology is not on a level of being 5 years old, where did that come from, can you please back this comment up? The Aurum is a device to allow for the payment for scripting and creation of small additional content similar to that of additional content for rpgs such as Eldar Scrolls or virtual chatrooms. Rather than make it purely money based (such as 5euro for additional content) they decided to impliment it into the game in the same way as plex's are. If they decided to release code to allow third parties to script additional content for free, the eve universe would quickly be polluted and overun with a lower quality of material imo.
Michaelangelo en Divalone	Posted - 2011.06.21 16:12:00 - [460] Originally by: Derik Istvan cries I'M GOING TO MISS YOU, SHIP SPINNINESS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! SOB SOB SOB DONT WORRY YOU CAN STILL SPIN OUTSIDE!!!! Maybe you can character spin now trolololololol

Clementine A	Posted - 2011.06.21 16:13:00 - [461] Originally by: Lorin Edehiel Originally by: Clementine A Originally by: Lorin Edehiel Originally by: 01011 101 I was making a joke at the "can I haz ur Stuffs" phrase, through rephrasing it in a more eloquent version. Why say something silly like "I feel pity" and refering to me as being a "kiddo" It says something about your maturity. It also conflicts with what you said earlier about players with "Experience, Brains, and Ideas"... a maturity of which you do not seem to represent through your phraseology. your logic is valid. i am an old fool. those who left had far more brains than i have and predicted what direction was eve going. and that direction will be... growing income. it's about money and nothing else. since avg. IQ of players is dropping sharply nowadays, cccp is trying to adapt itself and not go out of business. hence the idea of changing eve into wow. making this game easier and simpler with every patch. eye-candy effects over content and quality. till this very day i had to CLICK to do what i wanted... now i will have to WALK to be able to CLICK to DO what i want... if that's evolution in terms of GUI... So, please, just go click elsewhere and leave us low IQs alone :) Oh, did you know that Eisenhower was no longer the president of the united states ? who? Ike.
Martha Selby	Posted - 2011.06.21 16:13:00 - [462] Personally I've been waiting for full-body avatars since I first bought Eve when the plug was being pulled on Earth & Beyond. Bring it on !! (I hasten to add that I've had a few breaks away from Eve since then). I want to be able to see more of the station innards, docking / undocking animations (these could just replace the black screens anyway) and, who knows, maybe even ships insides too. Can't wait to get patched up and log in, even if it is just one room to wander around at the moment.
Anna Finster Fnord Works The Initiative.	Posted - 2011.06.21 16:13:00 - [463] Originally by: elegance refined Originally by: Hakaru Ishiwara Originally by: IPX One I am so glad that CCP launches a big expansion every six month! And I like the idea that i don't pay for it at all!! That is incorrect. Either we pay for these "expansions" with our subscription fees or these projects are funded separately though investment returns or other sources of capital. In short, there is a very good chance that the monthly subscription fees or purchased PLEXes are funding this software development work. Nothing in business comes for free. Nothing. Kudos for stating the obvious ! I just cant stop lmfao every time thread trolls say ccp is so kind to give us free patches , it is so apparent all they care about is their wallets ! Take this useless ken and barbie crap they are currently adding to draw in even more newb-tards , FIX THE DAMN LAG , so we can melt face without crashing the server , PLEASE Stop whining crybaby, what did you think CCP was doing? It's legit business. You aren't going to work for fun are you? Their business is to make money by keeping us entertained. So why should they intentionally mess with us? It's just that simple. Eve keeps evolving, and that's much more than most of the MMOs out there can claim of themselves. I'm keen on seeing CQ and finally walking in stations go live, along with all the other improvements they are constantly making. Regarding your "fix teh lag" thing, you don't read devblogs, do you? I'm kinda asking myself who's the newbtard here. Maybe start of by posting with your main.
DarkTemplarCrimsonWolf Amarr	Posted - 2011.06.21 16:14:00 - [464] Edited by: DarkTemplarCrimsonWolf on 21/06/2011 16:15:37 I like people moaning over updates, more often than not said people reduce their playtime as a result of their skewed views on what's happening and tbh... better EVE Community that way (who wants 11 mil users 9-10 mil of which are complete ****s that whine whenever progress robs them of their false sense of security or "proness" like WoW has currently, better ~1 mil population , not counting in the future Dusters, that plays the game as it evolves and strive to survive in a beautiful space game that is only 2-3 steps away from being a full blown space opera, clarification: those 2-3 steps are big ones, such as Skynet rat AI, a dynamic and ever evolving story and deeper range of exploration options). The microtransaction crap is a bit tiring to say the least, not in that it's coming but in that some people think it is... CCP has already said: skins will all that will be bought via aurum, if you want a shinier looking ship convert a plex to aurum and buy it otherwise don't, they won't break your precious balance with these new vanity items and you're certainly not forced to buy anything but if ever CCP decides to transition into a microtransaction system for say its expansions (play on the old content or spend aurum to buy the newer stuff, balance stuff gets patched either way) depending on how well it's done I will support it (I mean come on... you can get plexes in-game for isk, most of the people who moan about "microtransactions" coming to EVE are the same morons that openly brag they swim in isk, is that really gonna make your argument sound anything but ***y?). To sum it up: Don't like where things are going? There's always real life and it's as sandboxy as you want (sure no space ships but... suffice to say I am working on that bit personally ). EVE is evolving, Dust is coming, if Incarna is the first stepping stone to where I think the game is going then one day in the not to distant future PVP might just include you running around your ship with a flamethrower repelling boarders) among a slew of other possibilities (the boarding mechanic can be easily balanced but I won't go into detail as this is not the place for such things).
Lorin Edehiel Northmoor Inc.	Posted - 2011.06.21 16:16:00 - [465] Originally by: Maldranan Simplistic and inaccurate explanation aside, it's unfortunate that you can't understand why they can't just leave the game the way it was, or continue to do more of the same things. In this industry, if you stay the same, you lose business. A great example is the call of duty series. After 3 or 4 WWII reiterations, reviews simply started to state "how many more WWII games are we going to get? Seriously, it's been played to death". The same would happen with Eve, people would get sick of the same old content. chess, poker, Go, etc. beside, things arent ment to last forever. everything has the beginning, the golden age and the end. cccp and eve included, mate. you cant win with nature and time. you can only struggle...
CrazyConflict	Posted - 2011.06.21 16:17:00 - [466] Wow there alot of complainning going on even know they are give us a better game
Clementine A	Posted - 2011.06.21 16:18:00 - [467] Originally by: Lorin Edehiel Originally by: Maldranan Simplistic and inaccurate explanation aside, it's unfortunate that you can't understand why they can't just leave the game the way it was, or continue to do more of the same things. In this industry, if you stay the same, you lose business. A great example is the call of duty series. After 3 or 4 WWII reiterations, reviews simply started to state "how many more WWII games are we going to get? Seriously, it's been played to death". The same would happen with Eve, people would get sick of the same old content. chess, poker, Go, etc. beside, things arent ment to last forever. everything has the beginning, the golden age and the end. cccp and eve included, mate. you cant win with nature and time. you can only struggle... Time to see the world as a whole! Time to light the fire with the fuel! That's a conscience movement, in our hearts. Everywhere you look red white and blue Everywhere you look they're fooling you. Every revolutionary was once considered an enemy Cointel underminded the life Of Dr. Martin Luther King Everywhere you look red white and blue Everywhere you look they're fooling you. One people, one struggle! Stand United, Stand Peaceful! One people, one struggle !
nameless1q	Posted - 2011.06.21 16:18:00 - [468] Originally by: CrazyConflict Wow there alot of complainning going on even know they are give us a better game in your opinion
Vanthor	Posted - 2011.06.21 16:18:00 - [469] Originally by: Vanthor I know we all expected that it would go on longer, and i'm not one of those idiots who will be all 'OMG it's 5 secconds after they said i want my money back' but when will CCP learn that if they said 'we're gonna have the servers up by 22:00 tonight rather than 17:00. That way when the servers go live at 21:00 all the n00bs will be like 'OMG 1 hour early, we love you CCP' rather than whining. It's like i'm psycic or something :D 21:00 new estimated time.
DarkTemplarCrimsonWolf Amarr	Posted - 2011.06.21 16:19:00 - [470] Originally by: nameless1q Originally by: CrazyConflict Wow there alot of complainning going on even know they are give us a better game in your opinion Evolution > Stagnation, learn to adapt or die off, the only games you'll ever truly master are the simplest ones and EVE is not getting simpler, far from it.

Drizzd	Posted - 2011.06.21 16:19:00 - [471] Yea .. as always you see 10 to 30 people whining louder than the 200 000 people who are silently happy they get a new expansion to play ...
Cheroth Morachi	Posted - 2011.06.21 16:20:00 - [472] Originally by: Lorin Edehiel Originally by: Vantaanya Edited by: Vantaanya on 21/06/2011 06:07:04 Edited by: Vantaanya on 21/06/2011 05:43:03 Edited by: Vantaanya on 21/06/2011 05:40:54 Keep the good things coming CCP. You might get alot of hate for this update, but there are still people out there who think you are doing GREAT things. Keep it up :) ever wonder why ppl are complaining about it? or you are simply one of those ppl who are hypnotised by shinny, bright objects? Some PEOPLE complain about it because they have a legitimate gripe. Some PEOPLE complain about it because they're spoiled, entitled little brats. Some PEOPLE complain about it because that's their default response for ANYTHING. You may be option #1, but you come across as option #2 or #3. You likes your sandwich the way you likes your sandwich, and if someone makes it a different way, it might as well be a turd pressed between two shingles. You are at LEAST as lacking in objectivity as those you're denigrating in your posts. Fact is, CCP is a business, and they're not in business to make the same game over and over and over again. Adapt and change - or die. If you don't like those changes, feel free to take your business elsewhere, but do it in the knowledge that; while we may be simpletons attracted to bright lights and shiny baubles, you're so scared of change, you might as well be a doddering old man, screaming and shaking his fist from the rocking chair on his porch. Go change your depends, have some prune juice, and get over yourself.
Archibald Creed	Posted - 2011.06.21 16:20:00 - [473] Originally by: Clementine A Originally by: Archibald Creed Originally by: Vanessa Powervain Thanks for the mac link as well, however, seems like i'm in trouble. Used an old image of EVE #247655, patched it to #267203 and patched once more to INCARNA #271273 Now, that worked just great. Shouldn't be the problem. However, when launching the game client, it doesn't show any EULA that I could accept :/ I've had the same problem on Singularity client before, worked around it by copying some configuration files out of the Local Settings/Application Data/CCP/EVE/c_program_files_ccp_eve_tranquility/settings/ folder from the old client into the new, that removed the request to accept the EULA. now, I'm a little disappointed that incarna FINAL still had that problem, any known issue to you guys? using mac pro with mac os 10.6.7, ATI HD4890 Thanks =) V.P. Same Problem Here. Somehow i hoped that when tranq. is back online, EULA news would show up. But these are bad news.. :-/ Running iMac 27", 3.6 - i5, 8GB, ATI HD 5750, 10.6.7 delete ~/Library/App support/Eve online you'll loose your settings, though. Or revert the patch with time machine & wait for it to be "officially" released. Yeah, forgot the TM thing... pretty easy 7 Minute roleback ;) Now back to waiting...
Lorin Edehiel Northmoor Inc.	Posted - 2011.06.21 16:20:00 - [474] Edited by: Lorin Edehiel on 21/06/2011 16:21:35 Originally by: CrazyConflict Wow there alot of complainning going on even know they are give us a better game log out log in move user to main page click bookmark find last page post define better, please
DarkTemplarCrimsonWolf Amarr	Posted - 2011.06.21 16:21:00 - [475] The day I take bad opinions of a EVE expansion is the day Mittani and Chribba both post the new expansion sucks.
Ivanna Nuke Gallente Holders Of The Cowbell	Posted - 2011.06.21 16:21:00 - [476] I think the servers require more cowbell, injected through a solitare diamond giraffe the beans could then create whole new breeds of hamsters who can run past the speed of a bank manager who owes money to the mafia.
Palovana Caldari Inner Fire Inc.	Posted - 2011.06.21 16:21:00 - [477] Here's why Aurum is fuctarded: 1. Cash in one PLEX (30 days worth of game-time) and you get 3500 AUR. 2. Have fun buying your outfits, whatever floats your boat, etc. 3. You now have one of every piece of [virtual clothing and other doodads] from the MT store. 4. You have roughly 3450 AUR left. Each ~120 AUR should be redeemable for one day of gametime, but it's not. 5. CCP has successfully gotten you to waste about 28 to 29 days of a 30-day PLEX, gametime for which they will NEVER credit you - you now have a huge stack of useless AUR. 6. ??? 7. CCP PROFIT, YOU LOSE. Don't fall into the Aurum trap. (Yes, I know you can buy MT stuff and sell it for ISK on the market, but you're now wasting your time that you would otherwise be using to earn ISK in more fun ways). ----- This was getting old so I removed it.
henchana	Posted - 2011.06.21 16:22:00 - [478] Edited by: henchana on 21/06/2011 16:26:28 Soooo where is this manificent 4.6 GIGA bit client??? Incompatible version..... knew that all ready!
Bibosikus Gallente Universal Moose Federation	Posted - 2011.06.21 16:22:00 - [479] Just wondering, due to the delays, how many other poor bstrds like me are going to be ****faced by the time we can log in :s
Nite Fury	Posted - 2011.06.21 16:23:00 - [480] Edited by: Nite Fury on 21/06/2011 16:25:10 Firstly, well done CCP! To all the moaners. If you can do better... then why don't you.... oh yes..... You can't.... if you had any idea what is involved in game programming and MMOs you would not be complaining. Wonder if any of you can actually draw an 3D sphere in a #D design program? Live deployment is always different from testing... because there is always some smuck trying to do something weird. Yes... I agree bugs are annoying, but have you tried to hunt for bugs in coding? No? Then keep quite. Again.. well done CCP.

Michaelangelo en Divalone	Posted - 2011.06.21 16:23:00 - [481] Originally by: Vanthor Originally by: Vanthor I know we all expected that it would go on longer, and i'm not one of those idiots who will be all 'OMG it's 5 secconds after they said i want my money back' but when will CCP learn that if they said 'we're gonna have the servers up by 22:00 tonight rather than 17:00. That way when the servers go live at 21:00 all the n00bs will be like 'OMG 1 hour early, we love you CCP' rather than whining. It's like i'm psycic or something :D 21:00 new estimated time. it IS the solstice ;) maybe you ARE psychic hehe
Derik Istvan	Posted - 2011.06.21 16:24:00 - [482] Originally by: Michaelangelo en Divalone Originally by: Derik Istvan cries I'M GOING TO MISS YOU, SHIP SPINNINESS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! SOB SOB SOB DONT WORRY YOU CAN STILL SPIN OUTSIDE!!!! Maybe you can character spin now trolololololol REJECT FALSE IDOLS!
DarkTemplarCrimsonWolf Amarr	Posted - 2011.06.21 16:24:00 - [483] Originally by: Palovana Here's why Aurum is fuctarded: 1. Cash in one PLEX (30 days worth of game-time) and you get 3500 AUR. 2. Have fun buying your outfits, whatever floats your boat, etc. 3. You now have one of every piece of [virtual clothing and other doodads] from the MT store. 4. You have roughly 3450 AUR left. Each ~120 AUR should be redeemable for one day of gametime, but it's not. 5. CCP has successfully gotten you to waste about 28 to 29 days of a 30-day PLEX, gametime for which they will NEVER credit you - you now have a huge stack of useless AUR. 6. ??? 7. CCP PROFIT, YOU LOSE. Don't fall into the Aurum trap. (Yes, I know you can buy MT stuff and sell it for ISK on the market, but you're now wasting your time that you would otherwise be using to earn ISK in more fun ways). Uhmm... they're vanity items, IE: if you buy one you're likely to buy more or keep the aurum for when more come out, this sort of consumer mentality is amusing to say the least, like a child who cannot get all the toys he wants at once.
SetPhasers ToFun	Posted - 2011.06.21 16:24:00 - [484] Edited by: SetPhasers ToFun on 21/06/2011 16:24:49
Lorin Edehiel Northmoor Inc.	Posted - 2011.06.21 16:25:00 - [485] Originally by: DarkTemplarCrimsonWolf Originally by: nameless1q Originally by: CrazyConflict Wow there alot of complainning going on even know they are give us a better game in your opinion Evolution > Stagnation, learn to adapt or die off, the only games you'll ever truly master are the simplest ones and EVE is not getting simpler, far from it. "EVE is not getting simpler, far from it." haha... did you start playing this game like 2010, mate? your statement is so invalid that i wont even bother to continue my post. seriously. think before you post.
Vanthor	Posted - 2011.06.21 16:25:00 - [486] Originally by: Palovana Here's why Aurum is fuctarded: 1. Cash in one PLEX (30 days worth of game-time) and you get 3500 AUR. 2. Have fun buying your outfits, whatever floats your boat, etc. 3. You now have one of every piece of [virtual clothing and other doodads] from the MT store. 4. You have roughly 3450 AUR left. Each ~120 AUR should be redeemable for one day of gametime, but it's not. 5. CCP has successfully gotten you to waste about 28 to 29 days of a 30-day PLEX, gametime for which they will NEVER credit you - you now have a huge stack of useless AUR. 6. ??? 7. CCP PROFIT, YOU LOSE. Don't fall into the Aurum trap. (Yes, I know you can buy MT stuff and sell it for ISK on the market, but you're now wasting your time that you would otherwise be using to earn ISK in more fun ways). stuff won't cost 1aur each - i'd expect, given the exchange rate, for it to range from 50 aur (about 21cents or 5.4m isk) to 400aur or so (about $1.70 or 43m isk)
Adriav Saacronal Gallente	Posted - 2011.06.21 16:26:00 - [487] Rest in Peace EVE's most favorite pass time: Spinning ships in stations
Masquitar	Posted - 2011.06.21 16:26:00 - [488] Originally by: Palovana Here's why Aurum is fuctarded: 1. Cash in one PLEX (30 days worth of game-time) and you get 3500 AUR. 2. Have fun buying your outfits, whatever floats your boat, etc. 3. You now have one of every piece of [virtual clothing and other doodads] from the MT store. 4. You have roughly 3450 AUR left. Each ~120 AUR should be redeemable for one day of gametime, but it's not. 5. CCP has successfully gotten you to waste about 28 to 29 days of a 30-day PLEX, gametime for which they will NEVER credit you - you now have a huge stack of useless AUR. 6. ??? 7. CCP PROFIT, YOU LOSE. Don't fall into the Aurum trap. (Yes, I know you can buy MT stuff and sell it for ISK on the market, but you're now wasting your time that you would otherwise be using to earn ISK in more fun ways). You must have missed out on the bit about players being able to sell their Aurum purchases for isk. Could be a very good deal for people who buy PLEX for ISK.
Scattorshot	Posted - 2011.06.21 16:26:00 - [489] Originally by: Palovana Here's why Aurum is fuctarded: 1. Cash in one PLEX (30 days worth of game-time) and you get 3500 AUR. 2. Have fun buying your outfits, whatever floats your boat, etc. 3. You now have one of every piece of [virtual clothing and other doodads] from the MT store. 4. You have roughly 3450 AUR left. Each ~120 AUR should be redeemable for one day of gametime, but it's not. 5. CCP has successfully gotten you to waste about 28 to 29 days of a 30-day PLEX, gametime for which they will NEVER credit you - you now have a huge stack of useless AUR. 6. ??? 7. CCP PROFIT, YOU LOSE. Don't fall into the Aurum trap. (Yes, I know you can buy MT stuff and sell it for ISK on the market, but you're now wasting your time that you would otherwise be using to earn ISK in more fun ways). thinky ou will find that the price of the items in the store will be more than they was on test server so you will have to spend more aur....
Ethan Keldyn Universal Fleet Operations Fatal Ascension	Posted - 2011.06.21 16:27:00 - [490] Originally by: Palovana Originally by: Mr Cleann I just hope that when I log on this afternoon, That CCP didn't implement its sadistic sense of humor. By having us train the skills for crawling, ducking, bending, walking, running, jumping, climbing and grasping. I am fully expecting to have to train those skills. I'm training Advanced Walking Upgrades V. Palovana wins the thread.

To'Shua	Posted - 2011.06.21 16:28:00 - [491] Originally by: Lee Anderson Originally by: FinaI Destination I realy want to wait a bit till they launch it tru the login screen. going to take me arround 32 seconds i believe with 120mbit/sec this way no risk of downloading a non updated patch Wait safe o/ hmm i see your probs trolling care to show us the speed you got? click here and then copy and past reply with your speed, i think your lieing Here's mine. --> http://www.speedtest.net/result/1351508597.png Took about 15-20 minutes, but I wasn't really watching very close.
DarkTemplarCrimsonWolf Amarr	Posted - 2011.06.21 16:28:00 - [492] Originally by: Lorin Edehiel Originally by: DarkTemplarCrimsonWolf Originally by: nameless1q Originally by: CrazyConflict Wow there alot of complainning going on even know they are give us a better game in your opinion Evolution > Stagnation, learn to adapt or die off, the only games you'll ever truly master are the simplest ones and EVE is not getting simpler, far from it. "EVE is not getting simpler, far from it." haha... did you start playing this game like 2010, mate? your statement is so invalid that i wont even bother to continue my post. seriously. think before you post. The new player experience has gotten somewhat easier but is far from the level of traditional MMOs are at, 0.0 has gotten less easy to live in, pvp is still getting borked every now and then by ******ed blobs but that's been around for longer than the idea of walking in stations was pitched by CCP. I suggest you delete your post, no arguments posted, only a smug attitude, shall I guess you moaned when sanctums got the nerf?
Ivanna Nuke Gallente Holders Of The Cowbell	Posted - 2011.06.21 16:28:00 - [493] Originally by: Adriav Saacronal Rest in Peace EVE's most favorite pass time: Spinning ships in stations REJOICE our new past time, spinning our toons :D
Fling Achu	Posted - 2011.06.21 16:28:00 - [494] That's it, I quit! NOT!!!!!!!!
Lorin Edehiel Northmoor Inc.	Posted - 2011.06.21 16:29:00 - [495] Originally by: Cheroth Morachi You may be option #1, but you come across as option #2 or #3. You likes your sandwich the way you likes your sandwich, and if someone makes it a different way, it might as well be a turd pressed between two shingles. i hope tomorrow wall will rise between your chair and your table on which your breakfast should land. THEN, give me a call and tell me how do you feel. i like cool stories, bro.
01011 101	Posted - 2011.06.21 16:29:00 - [496] Originally by: Lorin Edehiel Originally by: 01011 101 I was making a joke at the "can I haz ur Stuffs" phrase, through rephrasing it in a more eloquent version. Why say something silly like "I feel pity" and refering to me as being a "kiddo" It says something about your maturity. It also conflicts with what you said earlier about players with "Experience, Brains, and Ideas"... a maturity of which you do not seem to represent through your phraseology. your logic is valid. i am an old fool. those who left had far more brains than i have and predicted what direction was eve going. and that direction will be... growing income. it's about money and nothing else. since avg. IQ of players is dropping sharply nowadays, cccp is trying to adapt itself and not go out of business. hence the idea of changing eve into wow. making this game easier and simpler with every patch. eye-candy effects over content and quality. till this very day i had to CLICK to do what i wanted... now i will have to WALK to be able to CLICK to DO what i want... if that's evolution in terms of GUI... Graphical improvements are important for competing in the industry, though I place a higher importance on functionality, features, and immersion. What people are forgetting is that this is a stepping stone, and not a shiny new graphics offering. I have not come across any factual information or qualitative studies conducted in order to judge the avg. IQ of players in EVE. If you have factual information to back up your comment, I would be very interested in seeing this! It would be of great help to me in what I am doing outside of EVE. I have not come across changes in EVE that make the game simpler to play. There are improvements in user interface and interaction, but complex features have not been dumbed down through automation imo. Can you give an example other than evolutions of interfaces such as scanning. EVE has evolved and become better since 2003, there are still improvements to be made, but a lot of players are viewing the walking in stations as a gimick and I do not believe this is what it will be in the future. I am not a fanboy of EVE at any strech of the word. I play EVE over other mmo offerings because of the better player driven interaction and communities, etc. The EVE game is being broadened, but I couldn't compare it to becoming WOW'ish at all.
maslakob	Posted - 2011.06.21 16:29:00 - [497] arum currency will be actually one big isk sink.... Billions of currently existing isk will be used to buy Arum probably, so, prepare for prices fluctuation in all items.
elegance refined	Posted - 2011.06.21 16:30:00 - [498] Originally by: Anna Finster Originally by: elegance refined Originally by: Hakaru Ishiwara Originally by: IPX One I am so glad that CCP launches a big expansion every six month! And I like the idea that i don't pay for it at all!! That is incorrect. Either we pay for these "expansions" with our subscription fees or these projects are funded separately though investment returns or other sources of capital. In short, there is a very good chance that the monthly subscription fees or purchased PLEXes are funding this software development work. Nothing in business comes for free. Nothing. Kudos for stating the obvious ! I just cant stop lmfao every time thread trolls say ccp is so kind to give us free patches , it is so apparent all they care about is their wallets ! Take this useless ken and barbie crap they are currently adding to draw in even more newb-tards , FIX THE DAMN LAG , so we can melt face without crashing the server , PLEASE Stop whining crybaby, what did you think CCP was doing? It's legit business. You aren't going to work for fun are you? Their business is to make money by keeping us entertained. So why should they intentionally mess with us? It's just that simple. Eve keeps evolving, and that's much more than most of the MMOs out there can claim of themselves. I'm keen on seeing CQ and finally walking in stations go live, along with all the other improvements they are constantly making. Regarding your "fix teh lag" thing, you don't read devblogs, do you? I'm kinda asking myself who's the newbtard here. Maybe start of by posting with your main. lol troll bites , god patch day is so much fun !
Ivanna Nuke Gallente Holders Of The Cowbell	Posted - 2011.06.21 16:31:00 - [499] The Game. That is all.
Naomi Zarius	Posted - 2011.06.21 16:31:00 - [500] Eve Gate says incarna is available now... but I can't log in... Is Evegate.com just showing this to laugh at me?

Joy Mongaguarda Caldari Brasfleet Networking Co.	Posted - 2011.06.21 16:31:00 - [501] Edited by: Joy Mongaguarda on 21/06/2011 16:33:40 Originally by: Palovana Here's why Aurum is fuctarded: 1. Cash in one PLEX (30 days worth of game-time) and you get 3500 AUR. 2. Have fun buying your outfits, whatever floats your boat, etc. 3. You now have one of every piece of [virtual clothing and other doodads] from the MT store. 4. You have roughly 3450 AUR left. Each ~120 AUR should be redeemable for one day of gametime, but it's not. 5. CCP has successfully gotten you to waste about 28 to 29 days of a 30-day PLEX, gametime for which they will NEVER credit you - you now have a huge stack of useless AUR. 6. ??? 7. CCP PROFIT, YOU LOSE. Don't fall into the Aurum trap. (Yes, I know you can buy MT stuff and sell it for ISK on the market, but you're now wasting your time that you would otherwise be using to earn ISK in more fun ways). Some people really dont get it ? Do they ? Vanity Itens are for people who doesnt mind paying sub for 6 or 12 months at once, and will spend it in Aur for tons of things, or tons of accounts. MT is indeed for people who doesnt mind about the 100 or so euros spent in what you say is useless, but they dont. Maybe it is time for some people learn once and for all, that not all players want the same things, and if CCP does what they do, they must have a pretty good number of survey answers to support that it is what many players want.
Even So	Posted - 2011.06.21 16:32:00 - [502] Edited by: Even So on 21/06/2011 16:39:56 You know, Since I keep reading posts about this, out of all the things to dislike about the new patch, why are people upset about being forced to finally make avatars? Actually why didn't they before? There seem to be several people mad at this, and I didn't see an explanation why. Maybe I am missing something but if you don't want to take the time, just use the randomize buttons and your done in 15 or so seconds Edit: Different Topic I never bought for wow WOTLK and Cataclysm expansions since I already paid for Burning Crusade on top of the original World of Warcraft. And since I never paid for the two recent patches for wow, I could not use most of the new content that came with the patches. To me paying a subscription per month and not paying for patches means I don't have to pay extra for the expansions like I do with a lot of other mmo's. That means the expansions were free.
pearleye madtom	Posted - 2011.06.21 16:32:00 - [503] Originally by: Ivanna Nuke Originally by: Adriav Saacronal Rest in Peace EVE's most favorite pass time: Spinning ships in stations REJOICE our new past time, spinning our toons :D Maybe CCP will add "Do Pirouette" as an option for the toons to repalce taking ship spinning away from us
Fling Achu	Posted - 2011.06.21 16:33:00 - [504] Originally by: Naomi Zarius Eve Gate says incarna is available now... but I can't log in... Is Evegate.com just showing this to laugh at me? http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee23/cateyes8588/WIyE2.gif
01011 101	Posted - 2011.06.21 16:33:00 - [505] Edited by: 01011 101 on 21/06/2011 16:35:56 Originally by: Palovana Here's why Aurum is fuctarded: 1. Cash in one PLEX (30 days worth of game-time) and you get 3500 AUR. 2. Have fun buying your outfits, whatever floats your boat, etc. 3. You now have one of every piece of [virtual clothing and other doodads] from the MT store. 4. You have roughly 3450 AUR left. Each ~120 AUR should be redeemable for one day of gametime, but it's not. 5. CCP has successfully gotten you to waste about 28 to 29 days of a 30-day PLEX, gametime for which they will NEVER credit you - you now have a huge stack of useless AUR. 6. ??? 7. CCP PROFIT, YOU LOSE. Don't fall into the Aurum trap. (Yes, I know you can buy MT stuff and sell it for ISK on the market, but you're now wasting your time that you would otherwise be using to earn ISK in more fun ways). I believe your comment is based on the initial MT store catalogue, this will be growing.... Your comments are rendered invalid imo edit: Additional micro content has to be financed somehow...
Maluno Amarr Elsewhere. The Imperial Senate	Posted - 2011.06.21 16:34:00 - [506] A while ago after one of the Incursion patches bookmarks viewed in the solar system map stopped showing their info (essentially whatever it was named) by hovering the mouse over them. The information is still available by right clicking the bookmark (again, in solar system map) and editing it. I know other people noticed that too but I'm not clear if that's a bug or 'design' (to unclutter the solar system map, or something). The ability to reposition peripheral probes symmetrically via holding ALT was an awesome improvement to the scanning process, but this bug (or feature) takes something from that improvement, time-wise. If that's a bug, will it be fixed now? Another thing that seemingly only started happening recently (few days in my experience) is that signature bookmarks that were scanned by an user and given to another user end up pointing to the wrong coordinates in space. This has led me to delete tens of bookmarks by thinking those signatures (almost magically) had all despawned at once, though the user who had originally scanned them could still get to them. Patch notes states: Quote: An issue with making EVE's co-ordinate system Right handed caused bookmark 'thumbtacks' to appear in a flipped location in the solarsystem map when players took their bookmarks from 'People and Places', put them into their cargo holds, and then back to 'People and Places'. This has now been fixed. Thumbtacks re-appear in the correct location if the user logs out and then logs back in. If I'm not missing anything that's alluding to what i just described. What I'm not sure is: does this fix still require the user to logout and back for the thumbtacks to refer to the correct position? If so, that's more of a workaround than a fix. tl;dr: - Please fix/bring back mouseover thumbtack information for bookmarks in solar system map view - The mechanics for sharing BMs specially where they are most needed like in W-Space is already somewhat a hassle. Please fix it so its sharing at least work well enough like before (no client restarts or logouts required).
DoAe Caldari Omega Engineering Inc.	Posted - 2011.06.21 16:34:00 - [507] Found some duplication of text in the patch notes. Don't know if its intentional. But it looks wierd. (I'm just a bit picky) Below "Features -> Virtual Store" you have at the bottom of the indented list "All clothing in the Noble Exchange can be previewed on a 3-D mannequin model via Show Info." and then the same text again at the bottom of the Virtual Store section. And below "Changes -> Corporations and recruitment" you have these points right after each other. "Searches are now universal rather than by region. Corporation searches are now universal rather than by region as before." Founder of Chasing Shadows Inc
Advocatus Diablo	Posted - 2011.06.21 16:34:00 - [508] We we are speed trolling here's mine http://www.speedtest.net/result/1351525493.png btw, if i drop my wireless an use lan capble I'd have like 80/80 Hows that for a troll?
Cheroth Morachi	Posted - 2011.06.21 16:35:00 - [509] Originally by: Lorin Edehiel Originally by: Cheroth Morachi You may be option #1, but you come across as option #2 or #3. You likes your sandwich the way you likes your sandwich, and if someone makes it a different way, it might as well be a turd pressed between two shingles. i hope tomorrow wall will rise between your chair and your table on which your breakfast should land. THEN, give me a call and tell me how do you feel. i like cool stories, bro. Might as well wish for a pony, while you're at it. Bro.
WisdomPanda Gallente Goatriders Horde The Scapegoats	Posted - 2011.06.21 16:36:00 - [510] For those of you who are running hot nvidia cards - try forcing PhysX onto the CPU, instead of your (already taxed) 460 or the like. Those cuda cores can get hot. Sidenote: 25min till next Steam sale... /stare ----- Cheesecake, Natures ultimate weapon.

Drizzd	Posted - 2011.06.21 16:37:00 - [511] Edited by: Drizzd on 21/06/2011 16:37:20 for the time being ... speedtested too ^^
Rolix FallenOne	Posted - 2011.06.21 16:37:00 - [512] Anyone who says ATI suck, i laugh in your face with my ATI 6970 same performance as GTX 570, okay maybe a bit less but 2gb memory and eyefinity makes up for it, for less price, in my country for like 70$ less.
ToXicPaIN Minmatar Strategic Solutions Ltd. Huzzah Federation	Posted - 2011.06.21 16:38:00 - [513] Originally by: Drizzd Edited by: Drizzd on 21/06/2011 16:37:20 for the time being ... speedtested too ^^ Only ?? llooll http://speedtest.net/result/1309919058.png thats my :-)
henchana	Posted - 2011.06.21 16:38:00 - [514] extended downtime until 21:00 utc Sorry you had to find out this way wohaaaaaaaaaaha
Yulinki Atavuli Minmatar Caldari Investment and Security Industries Innovia Alliance	Posted - 2011.06.21 16:38:00 - [515] Originally by: Rolix FallenOne Anyone who says ATI suck, i laugh in your face with my ATI 6970 same performance as GTX 570, okay maybe a bit less but 2gb memory and eyefinity makes up for it, for less price, in my country for like 70$ less. \ ya that will last a year tops. they have hardware AND driver issues. i'll stick to nvidia thank you.
Drizzd	Posted - 2011.06.21 16:40:00 - [516] Originally by: Yulinki Atavuli Originally by: Rolix FallenOne Anyone who says ATI suck, i laugh in your face with my ATI 6970 same performance as GTX 570, okay maybe a bit less but 2gb memory and eyefinity makes up for it, for less price, in my country for like 70$ less. \ ya that will last a year tops. they have hardware AND driver issues. i'll stick to nvidia thank you. hopefully nvidia will survive - their market share goes down to close to 10% here in my region
Den Galvin	Posted - 2011.06.21 16:41:00 - [517] http://www.speedtest.net/result/1351536184.png Does me fine.
nameless1q	Posted - 2011.06.21 16:41:00 - [518] Originally by: Yulinki Atavuli Originally by: Rolix FallenOne Anyone who says ATI suck, i laugh in your face with my ATI 6970 same performance as GTX 570, okay maybe a bit less but 2gb memory and eyefinity makes up for it, for less price, in my country for like 70$ less. \ ya that will last a year tops. they have hardware AND driver issues. i'll stick to nvidia thank you. everyone fed up moaning at CCP, Comence EMO video card wars go go overheat yeh
henchana	Posted - 2011.06.21 16:42:00 - [519] Originally by: Lorin Edehiel Originally by: DarkTemplarCrimsonWolf Originally by: nameless1q Originally by: CrazyConflict Wow there alot of complainning going on even know they are give us a better game in your opinion Evolution > Stagnation, learn to adapt or die off, the only games you'll ever truly master are the simplest ones and EVE is not getting simpler, far from it. POST BEFOR YOU THINK downtime exteendeed LOL LOL LOL OOL their comming to take me a way ha ha haha "EVE is not getting simpler, far from it." haha... did you start playing this game like 2010, mate? your statement is so invalid that i wont even bother to continue my post. seriously. think before you post.
RustyMunk	Posted - 2011.06.21 16:42:00 - [520] Did they just extend the DT again =)

Lorin Edehiel Northmoor Inc.	Posted - 2011.06.21 16:42:00 - [521] Originally by: DarkTemplarCrimsonWolf The new player experience has gotten somewhat easier but is far from the level of traditional MMOs are at, 0.0 has gotten less easy to live in, pvp is still getting borked every now and then by ******ed blobs but that's been around for longer than the idea of walking in stations was pitched by CCP. I suggest you delete your post, no arguments posted, only a smug attitude, shall I guess you moaned when sanctums got the nerf? not realy. last time i was moaning was around 2008 (?) when GM NeverPlayedThisGameBeforeWhatIsIt decided to nerf the sh1.t out of carriers/motherships but a few more ppl joined me on forum and he changed his mind. "The new player experience has gotten somewhat easier" - dude, when i started to play this stupid game many new players sometimes had troubles to even understand what killed them. - CEOs while deploying POS (pieces-of-sh1.t, what we were calling them at the time) where cursing heavens life was hursh, hard and exciting. do you expect me to be impresed with walking? if i want to pay/play game where i can walk i would just log into quake, for free mate.
Cheroth Morachi	Posted - 2011.06.21 16:43:00 - [522] Originally by: nameless1q Originally by: Yulinki Atavuli Originally by: Rolix FallenOne Anyone who says ATI suck, i laugh in your face with my ATI 6970 same performance as GTX 570, okay maybe a bit less but 2gb memory and eyefinity makes up for it, for less price, in my country for like 70$ less. \ ya that will last a year tops. they have hardware AND driver issues. i'll stick to nvidia thank you. everyone fed up moaning at CCP, Comence EMO video card wars go go overheat yeh I wish my grass was Emo. Then my lawn would cut itself...
Drizzd	Posted - 2011.06.21 16:43:00 - [523] Originally by: RustyMunk Did they just extend the DT again =) can i get a link to an official post please - all i see is people nagging about it- but the official posts i find still say 17:00
Ivanna Nuke Gallente Holders Of The Cowbell	Posted - 2011.06.21 16:43:00 - [524] Yo CCP Give us some SP also would ya, just to finish it all off ( also because capital ships V sucks )
Harry Eyeball	Posted - 2011.06.21 16:44:00 - [525] Originally by: ToXicPaIN Originally by: Drizzd Edited by: Drizzd on 21/06/2011 16:37:20 for the time being ... speedtested too ^^ Only ?? llooll http://speedtest.net/result/1309919058.png thats my :-) WOOT WOOT , ok serious question ! all these patches have done me good , and she who wears the pants can no longer deny me a new puter ! Can someone suggest a good base system , i can upgrade secretly im sure , under a 1000 dollas !
nameless1q	Posted - 2011.06.21 16:45:00 - [526] 21/06/2011 EVE Online: Incarna 1.0 deployment downtime extended EVE Online: Incarna 1.0 is currently being deployed. The database updates are taking longer than expected, and therefore the downtime has been extended. We expect to open Tranquility to the players at 21:00 UTC. Thank you for your understanding.
Enkill Eridos Draconian Enforcers Available To Hire Massive Dynamic Alliance	Posted - 2011.06.21 16:45:00 - [527] Originally by: Drizzd Originally by: Yulinki Atavuli Originally by: Rolix FallenOne Anyone who says ATI suck, i laugh in your face with my ATI 6970 same performance as GTX 570, okay maybe a bit less but 2gb memory and eyefinity makes up for it, for less price, in my country for like 70$ less. \ ya that will last a year tops. they have hardware AND driver issues. i'll stick to nvidia thank you. hopefully nvidia will survive - their market share goes down to close to 10% here in my region nvidia makes a more lasting product. My video card is about a year old and I can still play new games. I replaced the ATI card I had before after six months. Nvidia cards imo have better quality and is worth the extra $10
Maldranan	Posted - 2011.06.21 16:45:00 - [528] Edited by: Maldranan on 21/06/2011 16:47:10 Originally by: Lorin Edehiel Originally by: Maldranan Simplistic and inaccurate explanation aside, it's unfortunate that you can't understand why they can't just leave the game the way it was, or continue to do more of the same things. In this industry, if you stay the same, you lose business. A great example is the call of duty series. After 3 or 4 WWII reiterations, reviews simply started to state "how many more WWII games are we going to get? Seriously, it's been played to death". The same would happen with Eve, people would get sick of the same old content. chess, poker, Go, etc. beside, things arent ment to last forever. everything has the beginning, the golden age and the end. cccp and eve included, mate. you cant win with nature and time. you can only struggle... We're not talking about chess, poker or go, are we? We're talking about video games. Besides, there have been a number of grandmasters for chess that have suggested it's a dead game because it's too small and have suggested improvements (i.e. Chess960, extra pieces, etc). Poker has many variants and styles. Go... well, Go is just awesome and lets leave it at that. :-) Regarding your point about struggling... what do you suppose this expansion is doing? Struggling to stay relevant, yeah? I see what your point is but I think you understand why they're doing this as much as anyone else does. Many don't like it, but I think they need to change to keep pace.
Sheila Shenrose	Posted - 2011.06.21 16:45:00 - [529] Originally by: Drizzd Originally by: RustyMunk Did they just extend the DT again =) can i get a link to an official post please - all i see is people nagging about it- but the official posts i find still say 17:00 it did not change within the last few hours. still announced to be around 21:00. (news page)
ashton wiler	Posted - 2011.06.21 16:45:00 - [530] Thanks for keeping us updated on what time you think the game will be back up. Although most will complain about it being extended at least you gave us a heads up!

Duff McDuggin Gallente Serenity A.E. Shades of Gray	Posted - 2011.06.21 16:46:00 - [531] So many good points have been made about the ups and downs of Incarna. I personally am looking forward to Incarna and all that is to come in the future. Too the point, to all who are whining about how the various advancments in Incarna are nothing more then ways for CCP to make more money. Despite the fact that they are genuinly trying to make the game cooler and more entertaining albeit in small steps, and do this in the interest of keeping its players happy. Do you think the kid on the corner selling lemonade gives a F**k if you are thirsty? No it is all in the name of profit. Profit is the WHY. Keeping you happy is the HOW.
Drizzd	Posted - 2011.06.21 16:46:00 - [532] hardly worth their $100 more - for 30% less performance ...
Gianni Macinseed	Posted - 2011.06.21 16:47:00 - [533] HA HA you people, and your attitude towards a company wanting to make money, I mean WOW, you get such a huge deal when you buy the game, you do NOT have to pay for expansions, we live in a world where the sole purpose is to get the highest possible profit margin by whatever means possible. If you people cannot accept this as reality, and stop complaining every time you need to pay for something, I suggest you throw your computer away, gather some friends, a couple of girls, and create your little commune so that you can live far far away from anyone trying to make a profit from you and breed and be happy. Seriously, realize the world we live in, accept it and shut up, its worse than old ladies complaining about the fact that bingo went up in price by 25 cents.
Housekeeper Aledrought Refinery and Metalworks	Posted - 2011.06.21 16:47:00 - [534]
Dilandau Albato	Posted - 2011.06.21 16:48:00 - [535] ok ok ok do i get this right? NEW agent finder? http://www.eveonline.com/devblog.asp?a=blog&bid=926 NEW? this? lol........... new they say.... ok nice work. lol. keep going...
Drizzd	Posted - 2011.06.21 16:49:00 - [536] Originally by: Sheila Shenrose Originally by: Drizzd Originally by: RustyMunk Did they just extend the DT again =) can i get a link to an official post please - all i see is people nagging about it- but the official posts i find still say 17:00 it did not change within the last few hours. still announced to be around 21:00. (news page) thanks for the link digging my harddrive for replacement game in the meantime ^^
Archibald Creed	Posted - 2011.06.21 16:49:00 - [537] Edited by: Archibald Creed on 21/06/2011 16:49:54 Originally by: Harry Eyeball Originally by: ToXicPaIN Originally by: Drizzd Edited by: Drizzd on 21/06/2011 16:37:20 for the time being ... speedtested too ^^ Only ?? llooll http://speedtest.net/result/1309919058.png thats my :-) WOOT WOOT , ok serious question ! all these patches have done me good , and she who wears the pants can no longer deny me a new puter ! Can someone suggest a good base system , i can upgrade secretly im sure , under a 1000 dollas ! got cha http://www.speedtest.net/result/1351541636.png
Miyamoto Yamamoto	Posted - 2011.06.21 16:49:00 - [538] Originally by: Enkill Eridos Originally by: Drizzd Originally by: Yulinki Atavuli Originally by: Rolix FallenOne Anyone who says ATI suck, i laugh in your face with my ATI 6970 same performance as GTX 570, okay maybe a bit less but 2gb memory and eyefinity makes up for it, for less price, in my country for like 70$ less. \ ya that will last a year tops. they have hardware AND driver issues. i'll stick to nvidia thank you. hopefully nvidia will survive - their market share goes down to close to 10% here in my region nvidia makes a more lasting product. My video card is about a year old and I can still play new games. I replaced the ATI card I had before after six months. Nvidia cards imo have better quality and is worth the extra $10 wow a year old !!! i have 5850 and i play crysis and crysis 2 @ full hd res and full grafics with 54+ fps .. 5850 costs 120 euros now days , its as cheap as it gets .. best value for money buy miles ..
WisdomPanda Gallente Goatriders Horde The Scapegoats	Posted - 2011.06.21 16:50:00 - [539] Originally by: Lorin Edehiel Originally by: DarkTemplarCrimsonWolf The new player experience has gotten somewhat easier but is far from the level of traditional MMOs are at, 0.0 has gotten less easy to live in, pvp is still getting borked every now and then by *****ed blobs but that's been around for longer than the idea of walking in stations was pitched by CCP. I suggest you delete your post, no arguments posted, only a smug attitude, shall I guess you moaned when sanctums got the nerf? not realy. last time i was moaning was around 2008 (?) when GM NeverPlayedThisGameBeforeWhatIsIt decided to nerf the sh1.t out of carriers/motherships but a few more ppl joined me on forum and he changed his mind. "The new player experience has gotten somewhat easier" - dude, when i started to play this stupid game many new players sometimes had troubles to even understand what killed them. - CEOs while deploying POS (pieces-of-sh1.t, what we were calling them at the time) where cursing heavens life was hursh, hard and exciting. do you expect me to be impresed with walking? if i want to pay/play game where i can walk i would just log into quake, for free mate. I bet you had to do it all while walking 100km, barefoot, in a blizzard, uphill. ----- Cheesecake, Natures ultimate weapon.*
Even So	Posted - 2011.06.21 16:50:00 - [540] Originally by: Duff McDuggin Profit is the WHY. Keeping you happy is the HOW. So true

Nadya Lena Twilight Federation	Posted - 2011.06.21 16:51:00 - [541] Originally by: Rowan Kakuro And is it true that the turrets will retract now? Yes.
Bibosikus Gallente Universal Moose Federation	Posted - 2011.06.21 16:51:00 - [542] Check here for CCP info about TQ uptime
On3St4B	Posted - 2011.06.21 16:52:00 - [543] Originally by: nameless1q 21/06/2011 EVE Online: Incarna 1.0 deployment downtime extended EVE Online: Incarna 1.0 is currently being deployed. The database updates are taking longer than expected, and therefore the downtime has been extended. We expect to open Tranquility to the players at 21:00 UTC. Thank you for your understanding. are u trolling or what ? its says 17:00 , where did u read this ?
DarkTemplarCrimsonWolf Amarr	Posted - 2011.06.21 16:52:00 - [544] Edited by: DarkTemplarCrimsonWolf on 21/06/2011 16:53:04 Originally by: Lorin Edehiel Originally by: DarkTemplarCrimsonWolf The new player experience has gotten somewhat easier but is far from the level of traditional MMOs are at, 0.0 has gotten less easy to live in, pvp is still getting borked every now and then by ****ed blobs but that's been around for longer than the idea of walking in stations was pitched by CCP. I suggest you delete your post, no arguments posted, only a smug attitude, shall I guess you moaned when sanctums got the nerf? not realy. last time i was moaning was around 2008 (?) when GM NeverPlayedThisGameBeforeWhatIsIt decided to nerf the sh1.t out of carriers/motherships but a few more ppl joined me on forum and he changed his mind. "The new player experience has gotten somewhat easier" - dude, when i started to play this stupid game many new players sometimes had troubles to even understand what killed them. - CEOs while deploying POS (pieces-of-sh1.t, what we were calling them at the time) where cursing heavens life was hursh, hard and exciting. do you expect me to be impresed with walking? if i want to pay/play game where i can walk i would just log into quake, for free mate. Problem is now Supercarriers are a bit... over... powered? Problem is the game EVE was when I joined was brutal... (post-RMR) and that does not work in real life too well, EVE needs to grow and for that CCP needs to which in turn needs real money and don't get me wrong I loved the days when I had no idea why concord targeted me (shot a secure can btw) but EVE needs to be a bit more friendly, the barbies and kens are stuffing at the moment but God knows how CCP will make use of them in the future (right now they're for show, by the winter possibly they'll be for social activities as well, ugh, but while Dust will be separate from EVE my hope is some elements do get transfered over (read on ship pvp battles, whack a halotard style) ) you just need to have a bit of faith in CCP, the game needs to be a bit more gentle (eat your junk off) not as brutal as it was (tear your head off and ** down your neck) cause while there will be a slight decrease in player quality I trust there are enough pirate/gankers/carebear butt lovers to cull out the ones who aren't in the game for the distance (and possibly get better at the game in time).
BIG Game Lottery	Posted - 2011.06.21 16:52:00 - [545] Wait, what???!!! Bingo prices went up?? wtf!
Even So	Posted - 2011.06.21 16:52:00 - [546] Originally by: Dilandau Albato ok ok ok do i get this right? NEW agent finder? http://www.eveonline.com/devblog.asp?a=blog&bid=926 NEW? this? lol........... new they say.... ok nice work. lol. keep going... ? Its not new? Never seen it before
TuftyMac	Posted - 2011.06.21 16:53:00 - [547] Ive got it install works for me now waiting for the server hehehe
RustyMunk	Posted - 2011.06.21 16:53:00 - [548] Now im confuesed so is't 21:00 UTC time or what?
Maul555 Amarr Reliables Inc BricK sQuAD.	Posted - 2011.06.21 16:53:00 - [549] Edited by: Maul555 on 21/06/2011 16:57:33 Edited by: Maul555 on 21/06/2011 16:54:28 Originally by: WisdomPanda For those of you who are running hot nvidia cards - try forcing PhysX onto the CPU, instead of your (already taxed) 460 or the like. Those cuda cores can get hot. Sidenote: 25min till next Steam sale... /stare Or maybe people could pay attention when buying new hardware and grab a card with a decent cooling solution for a few bucks more. I will be keeping phys-x right where it is on my GTX460 because that's what I bought the damn thing for! Heat? I laugh at heat.. let it try I say, let it try... The EVE Personality Test
Kno Bodeesbitch	Posted - 2011.06.21 16:54:00 - [550] Originally by: Clementine A It's quite instructing reading this forum each time a major update occurs. There's always the bunch of embittered conservatives ranting about the new features to be introduced, like old timers remembering the "good old times". Bad news, guys, this kind of thing happens all the time. This is called evolution. Guess what, according to Robert Charles Darwin those who can't adapt just disappear :) Marche ou crFve. Awww... look at the dude who thinks he is making a hip,snarky,quasi-political remark in an online spaceship game. You even used some French! How cute! While I am not taking a position the patch until I play it, I will refute your statement regarding "better times". Things were much better before you decided you were witty...

Bart Fast	Posted - 2011.06.21 16:54:00 - [551] Edited by: Bart Fast on 21/06/2011 16:55:25 Originally by: On3St4B Originally by: nameless1q 21/06/2011 EVE Online: Incarna 1.0 deployment downtime extended EVE Online: Incarna 1.0 is currently being deployed. The database updates are taking longer than expected, and therefore the downtime has been extended. We expect to open Tranquility to the players at 21:00 UTC. Thank you for your understanding. are u trolling or what ? its says 17:00 , where did u read this ? http://www.eveonline.com/news.asp is showing 21:00 too
elegance refined	Posted - 2011.06.21 16:54:00 - [552] Originally by: BIG Game Lottery Wait, what???!!! Bingo prices went up?? wtf! I - 24 ...........I - 24
Gar Sunji Caldari EVE University Ivy League	Posted - 2011.06.21 16:54:00 - [553] Well, my internets are slow, so I wish they'd hurry and release the patch data through the auto updater so I have it updated when the server finally comes up.
4CID 8URN	Posted - 2011.06.21 16:55:00 - [554] Edited by: 4CID 8URN on 21/06/2011 16:55:42 will be missing old hangar with ship view, the ship in the new hangar looks to cheap like its not even properly rendered as 3D object. Mostly good work though.
Archibald Creed	Posted - 2011.06.21 16:55:00 - [555] Originally by: RustyMunk Now im confuesed so is't 21:00 UTC time or what? Yep, guess around 4 more hours to go.... can¦t wait for... ;)
Susan Simmons Gallente University of Caille	Posted - 2011.06.21 16:55:00 - [556] Anyone know if the patch is up yet or will it just automatically path incarna in when you go to sign in later? I'm not sure how it works lol.
MazeRunner	Posted - 2011.06.21 16:56:00 - [557] Ah dang, had a bet going that it would get extended by 3 hours, not four.
nameless1q	Posted - 2011.06.21 16:56:00 - [558] Originally by: On3St4B Originally by: nameless1q 21/06/2011 EVE Online: Incarna 1.0 deployment downtime extended EVE Online: Incarna 1.0 is currently being deployed. The database updates are taking longer than expected, and therefore the downtime has been extended. We expect to open Tranquility to the players at 21:00 UTC. Thank you for your understanding. EVE-online home page are u trolling or what ? its says 17:00 , where did u read this ?
Lorin Edehiel Northmoor Inc.	Posted - 2011.06.21 16:56:00 - [559] Edited by: Lorin Edehiel on 21/06/2011 16:56:47 log out log in move user to main page click bookmark find last page post Originally by: 01011 101 Graphical improvements are important for competing in the industry, though I place a higher importance on functionality, features, and immersion. What people are forgetting is that this is a stepping stone, and not a shiny new graphics offering. - list of bugs is endless. actualy i had to drop eve for a year or two when i realised that it's not the enemy that is killing me, but GUI/bugs/issues. (no one killed me, it wasnt a rage quit... just couldnt fight GUI no more :] ) I have not come across any factual information or qualitative studies conducted in order to judge the avg. IQ of players in EVE. If you have factual information to back up your comment, I would be very interested in seeing this! It would be of great help to me in what I am doing outside of EVE. - got a few insured gank-BSs with ins. running out. undocked, wasted them on some poor noobs with literaly no imagination. gain 2b+ins. log off. no experience, no imagination, no future. todays playerbase. wow generation. I have not come across changes in EVE that make the game simpler to play. There are improvements in user interface and interaction, but complex features have not been dumbed down through automation imo. Can you give an example other than evolutions of interfaces such as scanning. - so you have come across such changes :] (scanning. remember days when scanning someone down was an art only known to a few) anyway. player creation. all stats the same, only different faces (wow). before that you had to plan very carefuly your chars/attributes EVE has evolved and become better since 2003, there are still improvements to be made, but a lot of players are viewing the walking in stations as a gimick and I do not believe this is what it will be in the future. - just another shinny object, mate to please your eye. and there is literaly tons and tons of bugs/issues to solve in this game... ..but who cares? cccp definitely doesnt. I am not a fanboy of EVE at any strech of the word. I play EVE over other mmo offerings because of the better player driven interaction and communities, etc. The EVE game is being broadened, but I couldn't compare it to becoming WOW'ish at all. - when did you start to play this game?
Maggie Beckett	Posted - 2011.06.21 16:57:00 - [560] If I wanted to walk around in stations I would play Star Trek online. I'm not complaining, I'm really just indifferent to this patch. Balancing ships is a good thing. Fixing SOV mechanics so a few large alliances don't control huge blocks of space would be nice. For instance, how about increasing SOV costs per system much like increasing War Dec costs as you War Dec more corps/alliances. Have the cost per system owned increase by 5 or 10% per system you hold SOV over. It would seem to me that anything that drives more people to null sec living would be good for the game. And as others have mentioned, small fleet fights are a lost art, everyone likes to drop super caps at the first sign of a fair fight. How about some kind of a nerf for super caps or super cap deployment.

elegance refined	Posted - 2011.06.21 16:57:00 - [561] Originally by: elegance refined Originally by: BIG Game Lottery Wait, what???!!! Bingo prices went up?? wtf! I - 24 ...........I - 24 B - 07 ...........B - 07
Chris Sevey	Posted - 2011.06.21 16:57:00 - [562] What happened to bookmarks in overview? Didnt read anything about that but it's been talked about int he past...
TuftyMan	Posted - 2011.06.21 16:57:00 - [563] The link for the new patch is on page 6
Soulpirate	Posted - 2011.06.21 16:58:00 - [564] I thought it was 3 hours, or was it 5?
Wicked Freak	Posted - 2011.06.21 16:58:00 - [565] ok originally DT was to be from 05:00-19:00 then it was changed to 07:00-17:00 now they have extended it to be back up at 21:00 .When will ccp learn to add atleast a couple of hours longer than they expect.I do believe that they should reimburse us some game time from all of these long DT scheduled or not.I am not saying all the time we do still have training going but its not all about the training I do like to be able to play the game not just pay to train a character.
Garreth Vlox Minmatar Blackened Skies	Posted - 2011.06.21 16:58:00 - [566] Originally by: Kon Deus Sure... perhaps you can start another thread to try and keep the hype up and ignore the POST after POST of the player base telling you NO! Seems they all end the same. Update to patch the not yet launched update to fix what we updated to update to try and get more money cause we failed to update what you wanted updated and I failed to update my subscription. its unfortunate that with all the ways we have to communicate with CCP via forums, email, and petition, the only time they ever listen to us is right after we click the cancel subscription button. i've killed 2 accounts and if this expansion fails as hard as the last 3 big ones i'll cancel the rest, i see no point in playing a game were the company in charge ignores its player base and does what ever the ** it feels like with the game regardless of what the player feedback is. you can tell me its their game and they have a right to do whatever they want with it and that's fine but it doesn't mean i will keep paying them to ignore me ** YOU CCP.
The Archarsonist	Posted - 2011.06.21 16:58:00 - [567] Death of capsuleer era? i was under the impresion that my char lived in a tiny pod that he was hardwired into..... i had to leave eve when they did the last big update only just got a new laptop and got back into game, seems i may have to take enuther break though if ppls complaints about increased reqs are corect. guna miss my hanger veiw. i play eve to fly a spaceship not run around on foot i have 4 other mmo i play that do that just fine Always a fan of new content just hope i can play it and.... id like to remain a capsuleer plz
Rogue Sheperd Stella Nova Inc.	Posted - 2011.06.21 16:59:00 - [568] Aww i was hoping to log in by now everything pointed to a 5pm launch but alas it says the version isnt right for tranquility and no auto updater appeared I guess ill wait till later then. any other places i could egt the update over the eve updater? Rangers lead the way! Stellar Nova Rangers (SNR)
Haunting Widow Wormhole Engineers	Posted - 2011.06.21 16:59:00 - [569] Come on, second last day off for midterm break and it's extended... I gotta get me some eve time.
Mark MyWord	Posted - 2011.06.21 17:02:00 - [570] Originally by: Sunbird Huy Originally by: Mark MyWord Our planet came from our sun, and our solar system came from the atoms and reactions within our galaxy etc. I don't just play EVE, I play life. Well, thanks for astro-physics/geology class. If you are trying to get a PR job with CCP, you are on a good road. What you choose to ignore is that CCP, in their drive for expansion and more customers is doing is losing a huge lot of old players that simply get worn down by the stuff done. The same players that actively or passively played a part in developing and flourishing of EVE. Your appreciation of CCP is, even if not stated by us the less intelligent than you the oh magnificent self, shared by almost every member/subscriber in EVE community. The fact that most of us are willing to endure and last hoping and waiting for improvements is a proof of that appreciation and thanks to CCP for making EVE the best MMO around. But they need to be more active on the real issues. The number one priority is Incarna, because they promised to deliver it back in 2006.

Sp4c3Truck3r	Posted - 2011.06.21 17:02:00 - [571] well goddamn... I went to bed at 3am expecting the dt to be done when i awoke but alas here i am sat in front of the pc 12 hrs later and my client is still out of date, hoorah ccp hoorah.
elegance refined	Posted - 2011.06.21 17:02:00 - [572] Originally by: Garreth Vlox Originally by: Kon Deus Sure... perhaps you can start another thread to try and keep the hype up and ignore the POST after POST of the player base telling you NO! Seems they all end the same. Update to patch the not yet launched update to fix what we updated to update to try and get more money cause we failed to update what you wanted updated and I failed to update my subscription. its unfortunate that with all the ways we have to communicate with CCP via forums, email, and petition, the only time they ever listen to us is right after we click the cancel subscription button. i've killed 2 accounts and if this expansion fails as hard as the last 3 big ones i'll cancel the rest, i see no point in playing a game were the company in charge ignores its player base and does what ever the ** it feels like with the game regardless of what the player feedback is. you can tell me its their game and they have a right to do whatever they want with it and that's fine but it doesn't mean i will keep paying them to ignore me ** YOU CCP. Just call them directly , thats allways fun !
Yulinki Atavuli Minmatar Caldari Investment and Security Industries Innovia Alliance	Posted - 2011.06.21 17:02:00 - [573] Originally by: Duff McDuggin Do you think the kid on the corner selling lemonade gives a F**k if you are thirsty? No it is all in the name of profit. Profit is the WHY. Keeping you happy is the HOW. very good point! +1
WisdomPanda Gallente Goatriders Horde The Scapegoats	Posted - 2011.06.21 17:02:00 - [574] Originally by: Maul555 Originally by: WisdomPanda For those of you who are running hot nvidia cards - try forcing PhysX onto the CPU, instead of your (already taxed) 460 or the like. Those cuda cores can get hot. Sidenote: 25min till next Steam sale... /stare Or maybe people could pay attention when buying new hardware and grab a card with a decent cooling solution for a few bucks more. I will be keeping phys-x right where it is on my GTX460... http://img.hexus.net/v2/graphics_cards/nvidia/msi/N560GTXTi/N560GTX-Ti-01-big.jpg Heat? I laugh at heat.. I let it try I say, let it try... I'm running 2 x Gainward 460's, the cooling is a little lacking when they're both under heavy load, but that's mostly due to proximity. Silly mobo. (Although with vsync on, they rarely go above a wisper.) Still, my point stands. 460 or not, if you are having heating issues, at least try disabling the physx on the vid card, assuming your CPU fan isn't just as noisy. Still, hot graphics cards is why you buy a beast of a headset. (If I can hear it over this, it is likely on fire.) ----- Cheesecake, Natures ultimate weapon.
Spatiopathe	Posted - 2011.06.21 17:07:00 - [575] A patch is like the politic - there's some fanboy and hateboy of a side (depend if feel uped or nerfed). - we got impatient and hope ( we hope they were elected next time and begin the work quick) - we got disappoitement (finally few thing have changed)
Rogue Sheperd Stella Nova Inc.	Posted - 2011.06.21 17:08:00 - [576] sigh i think its time for CNC4 then while i wait or perhaps GMOD. Rangers lead the way! Stellar Nova Rangers (SNR)
Corranos Blaise	Posted - 2011.06.21 17:08:00 - [577] The issue of the wormhole corporation hangar not allowing alliance members access has NEVER been addressed...And the choice to pick it is STILL there...How hard is it to add that little detail into this new update? or ANY update for that matter... It really is a pain for alliance members not being able to access things at your POS especially when we live in there...
01011 101	Posted - 2011.06.21 17:08:00 - [578] The "harshness" of EVE is player driven. CCP do not interfer with player harshness such as general scamming as this would catalyse petitions etc. The learning curve of EVE becoming streamlined does not change the harshness of EVE. There has been no research conducted that the avg. intelligence of players has become lower. I would like to put forward a hypothesis that: Please note: Maybe I'm completly wrong, I am tired unfortunately, and I'm not meaning to troll, I am attempting to analyse community behaviour Older EVE players, who once touted the complexity of EVE and propogated an elitist attitude within the community when comparing them and EVE with other MMO's, and who are now becoming generally tired of a game and are on the verge of leaving, are now self-validating thier past elitist ego through complaining that EVE is becoming more simple and that the avg. player inteligence is lower. Yarr
Mark MyWord	Posted - 2011.06.21 17:09:00 - [579] Originally by: syrus mac Originally by: Mark MyWord I hope that all of you who complain about the code, lack of features, priority of Incarna, or ATI compatibility have never coded, or had experience sustaining PR (Public Relations), because we can let your complaints go as ignorance. If you really want all these things changed, because you tout yourselves as so important, why don't you get a job at CCP and code for them and make everyone's lives easier with your mad skills. EVE is a hard beast to tame - that's why CCP is big, too. The best coders, designers, and directors aren't the makeup of CCP or any gaming company. The best have to deal with less-skilled people that work within their company and not just those outside of CCP, like you. Be thankful for what they give you. I'm thankful I don't have to pay $60 for every expansion. I'll admit, my Dell 390 is from 2006 and it runs everything fine, but some manufacturers do a better job than others, and it's up to the user to decide what their computer needs and budgets are. In order to move forward, things have to get rearranged. That's how the EVE universe and the real universe move through time. If that means that old users are rearranged with new users, or users rearrange their old computer hardware with new hardware - we must move forward nonetheless. Who knows where your atoms came from. All of life had to get their atoms from something before them - whether it be the $hit from fish or the gas from plants (or planets). It's not like we're all unique one-time creations. Our bodies shed most of itself throughout its life only to rearrange its losses with newer consumables. Our planet came from our sun, and our solar system came from the atoms and reactions within our galaxy etc. I don't just play EVE, I play life. You sir are mad! So-called madness is the alternative to stupid dependency.
SmartBomb BoB	Posted - 2011.06.21 17:10:00 - [580] LOL LOL only !!!!!! http://www.imgbox.de/show/img/shqE3BweqH.png Originally by: ToXicPaIN Originally by: Drizzd Edited by: Drizzd on 21/06/2011 16:37:20 for the time being ... speedtested too ^^ Only ?? llooll http://speedtest.net/result/1309919058.png thats my :-)

DeathRiderIsComing	Posted - 2011.06.21 17:12:00 - [581] can Incarna be downloaded yet.... is the server up and running for game play??? i still get incompatible version.... and i cant find the patch to download... anyone have the link or knows what i need to do??? DeathRiderIsComing
Lorin Edehiel Northmoor Inc.	Posted - 2011.06.21 17:12:00 - [582] Originally by: 01011 101 The "harshness" of EVE is player driven. CCP do not interfer with player harshness such as general scamming as this would catalyse petitions etc. The learning curve of EVE becoming streamlined does not change the harshness of EVE. There has been no research conducted that the avg. intelligence of players has become lower. I would like to put forward a hypothesis that: Please note: Maybe I'm completly wrong, I am tired unfortunately, and I'm not meaning to troll, I am attempting to analyse community behaviour Older EVE players, who once touted the complexity of EVE and propogated an elitist attitude within the community when comparing them and EVE with other MMO's, and who are now becoming generally tired of a game and are on the verge of leaving, are now self-validating thier past elitist ego through complaining that EVE is becoming more simple and that the avg. player inteligence is lower. Yarr so... when did you start playing this game, mate?
Varla Blaydes Amarr Imperial Trojan Remnants	Posted - 2011.06.21 17:12:00 - [583] For everyone ***ing about their computers overheating and not able to play: I play on a Dell 1545 when I'm away from home. Yeah, that's right, I laptop with an Intel 4 series chipset, and I don't have any heat issues, sitting stock on a desk. And I run this on low/med settings. So for everyone who is *ing about Incarna and Incursion overheating their systems, try updating your drivers (I know nVidia had a GPU fan issue a bit back), cleaning your systems out, and for the more technical of users, replace the thermal paste. Otherwise, stop ***ing and get more fans. Also support a bunch of comments people made about CQ that I didn't think of until I read through here, especially about the ship-switching and rapid deployment for PvP/PvE. While I do like the whole "my character has a purpose other than a face in the corner of my screen" aspect, a "Do not leave ship" option would be nice when docking, especially if it's for a moment to repair hull and recharge sheild/cap before jumping back out into a mission.
Jasmine Oreglare	Posted - 2011.06.21 17:14:00 - [584] Isn't it officially past 1700 UTC? Just curious...thought I would at least be able to start the download for the new patch... :P
Drizzd	Posted - 2011.06.21 17:14:00 - [585] Edited by: Drizzd on 21/06/2011 17:14:39 Originally by: DeathRiderIsComing can Incarna be downloaded yet.... is the server up and running for game play??? i still get incompatible version.... and i cant find the patch to download... anyone have the link or knows what i need to do??? DeathRiderIsComing you can already download the patch - just look some posts upward .. around #400 just dont use IE 32 bit for downloading - then you install, wait for the opening of the server, apply client patch and everything's fine @Jasmine - extended to 2100 UTC
Cam Hunt Gallente	Posted - 2011.06.21 17:14:00 - [586] EVE Online: Incarna 1.0 is currently being deployed. The database updates are taking longer than expected, and therefore the downtime has been extended. We expect to open Tranquility to the players at 21:00 UTC. Thank you for your understanding. From the new section
DOMELL86	Posted - 2011.06.21 17:14:00 - [587] http://cdn1.eveonline.com/evepremiumpatch267203-271273_m.exe
Zagdul Gallente Shadowed Command Fatal Ascension	Posted - 2011.06.21 17:14:00 - [588] Originally by: 01011 101 Originally by: cdr cleaver Well CCP it looks like youve done a good one on us this time doesn't it !!!... Here I am with a brand new computer the very best I could afford to buy, and guess what ?? its got an AMD card in it !! (Asus AMD Radeon HD 6950 DirectCU II 2GB Graphics Card)I had this new computer custom built for me so I could get as much game play out of eve that I could, and what have you lot just done?? screwed around with the damn graphics that's what !! what's the point in folks upgrading there computers, have you lot got something against AMD / ATI?? just 1 question for you lot now WHY??????...I suspect you have your hands in NVIDIA'S pocket as well have you ... NOT HAPPY... I would suspect the game will run well with hardly any difference for you compared to Nvidia users? Some minor features arn't compatible and it is partly to do with the AMD/ATI cards isn't it? ATI = Performance on a Budget Nvidia = new features on latest tech. CCP went with latest tech, dudes who decided with budget cards get left behind. ATI users should be upset they chose an inferior product, not that CCP chose to develop on newer, superior technology.
BIG Game Lottery	Posted - 2011.06.21 17:15:00 - [589] Are we there yet?
Rogue Sheperd Gallente Stella Nova Inc. Elemental Tide	Posted - 2011.06.21 17:15:00 - [590] Originally by: Jasmine Oreglare Isn't it officially past 1700 UTC? Just curious...thought I would at least be able to start the download for the new patch... :P Yeah so did i but i have the Alliance tourny to watch on youtube while i wait for CCP to stick the patch up Rangers lead the way! Stellar Nova Rangers (SNR)

01011 101	Posted - 2011.06.21 17:15:00 - [591] Originally by: The Archarsonist Death of capsuleer era? i was under the impresion that my char lived in a tiny pod that he was hardwired into..... i had to leave eve when they did the last big update only just got a new laptop and got back into game, seems i may have to take enuther break though if ppls complaints about increased reqs are corect. guna miss my hanger veiw. i play eve to fly a spaceship not run around on foot i have 4 other mmo i play that do that just fine Always a fan of new content just hope i can play it and.... id like to remain a capsuleer plz I believe the idea of the pod is that it is a "mind-link" medium for the character to interact directly with the ships control systems and excape system. As the capsuleer pilot is a heavily invested in individual, compared to the rest of the ships crew (if any). I like to think of the captain/pilot/capsuleer is "hardwired" either wirelessly or with wires, to the ship, but there is a captains chair, bridge, etc. And that in the event of ship destruction, an emergency system is activated that encloses the captains chair in the pod and is ejected. I do not believe there is any lore in the past that stated that characters can not leave their pods.
CrazyConflict	Posted - 2011.06.21 17:16:00 - [592] http://www.speedtest.net/result/1351586593.png
Mark MyWord	Posted - 2011.06.21 17:16:00 - [593] Originally by: 01011 101 Originally by: Mark MyWord Our planet came from our sun, and our solar system came from the atoms and reactions within our galaxy etc. I don't just play EVE, I play life. fyi, This message and wording = may be an alt of "Tenla Amarr" I don't know who Tenla Amarr is. I'm just a noob.
Vanessa Powervain	Posted - 2011.06.21 17:16:00 - [594] Back to the Mac Issue, we know a fix how to work around the EULA problem, but what about not being able to enter your password? Do you have the same issue? :-/ Cheers V.P.
Theothermonkey2	Posted - 2011.06.21 17:16:00 - [595] eve online: incarna 1.0 deployment downtime extended reported by CCP Spitfire \| 2011.06.21 14:06:27 \| NEW EVE Online: Incarna 1.0 is currently being deployed. The database updates are taking longer than expected, and therefore the downtime has been extended. We expect to open Tranquility to the players at 21:00 UTC. Thank you for your understanding.
Dalvor Coraneu	Posted - 2011.06.21 17:17:00 - [596] So I'm not alone in wondering where the new patch is? It's now late!
Tak E Yon Gallente Mlin'thabbyn Immortal Suns	Posted - 2011.06.21 17:17:00 - [597] LULZSEC hacker got nabbed in london, YAY! http://www.cnn.com/2011/WORLD/europe/06/21/uk.sony.hack.arrest/index.html No mention about Eve or other sites such as minecraft though :( Sorry for the subject change, looked like you all were having soo much fun :P
Drizzd	Posted - 2011.06.21 17:17:00 - [598] Originally by: Dalvor Coraneu So I'm not alone in wondering where the new patch is? It's now late! the link was just posted again .. look 4 posts above yours (or 5 )
Dark uno	Posted - 2011.06.21 17:18:00 - [599] Originally by: On3St4B Originally by: nameless1q 21/06/2011 EVE Online: Incarna 1.0 deployment downtime extended EVE Online: Incarna 1.0 is currently being deployed. The database updates are taking longer than expected, and therefore the downtime has been extended. We expect to open Tranquility to the players at 21:00 UTC. Thank you for your understanding. are u trolling or what ? its says 17:00 , where did u read this ? Ah well, they first planned it from 5:00 am to 19:00 pm EVE Time... So the 4 hours extra aren't really a surprise... Also you should visit the homepage from time to time, it holds updated info.
01011 101	Posted - 2011.06.21 17:18:00 - [600] Edited by: 01011 101 on 21/06/2011 17:19:31 Originally by: Lorin Edehiel Originally by: 01011 101 The "harshness" of EVE is player driven. CCP do not interfer with player harshness such as general scamming as this would catalyse petitions etc. The learning curve of EVE becoming streamlined does not change the harshness of EVE. There has been no research conducted that the avg. intelligence of players has become lower. I would like to put forward a hypothesis that: Please note: Maybe I'm completly wrong, I am tired unfortunately, and I'm not meaning to troll, I am attempting to analyse community behaviour Older EVE players, who once touted the complexity of EVE and propogated an elitist attitude within the community when comparing them and EVE with other MMO's, and who are now becoming generally tired of a game and are on the verge of leaving, are now self-validating thier past elitist ego through complaining that EVE is becoming more simple and that the avg. player inteligence is lower. Yarr so... when did you start playing this game, mate? Edit: in "'s 4 years maybe more? I'm just postulating "regarding themes" mind you. Your reply and wording indicates a theme of player's "EVE playing" age in relation to how valid their opinions are.

Even So	Posted - 2011.06.21 17:18:00 - [601] Originally by: Varla Blaydes While I do like the whole "my character has a purpose other than a face in the corner of my screen" aspect, a "Do not leave ship" option would be nice when docking, especially if it's for a moment to repair hull and recharge sheild/cap before jumping back out into a mission. Isn't there a setting to disable this function?
Varla Blaydes Amarr Imperial Trojan Remnants	Posted - 2011.06.21 17:19:00 - [602] Originally by: 01011 101 Originally by: The Archarsonist Death of capsuleer era? i was under the impresion that my char lived in a tiny pod that he was hardwired into..... i had to leave eve when they did the last big update only just got a new laptop and got back into game, seems i may have to take enuther break though if ppls complaints about increased reqs are corect. guna miss my hanger veiw. i play eve to fly a spaceship not run around on foot i have 4 other mmo i play that do that just fine Always a fan of new content just hope i can play it and.... id like to remain a capsuleer plz I believe the idea of the pod is that it is a "mind-link" medium for the character to interact directly with the ships control systems and excape system. As the capsuleer pilot is a heavily invested in individual, compared to the rest of the ships crew (if any). I like to think of the captain/pilot/capsuleer is "hardwired" either wirelessly or with wires, to the ship, but there is a captains chair, bridge, etc. And that in the event of ship destruction, an emergency system is activated that encloses the captains chair in the pod and is ejected. I do not believe there is any lore in the past that stated that characters can not leave their pods. Capsuleers actually sit in a goo-filled pod, the capsule you see when your ship explodes, but they can get out of it. I think it is a combination of hardwire/wireless connections. But they can get out, I just read some lore linked on the main site that seems to support this.
Drizzd	Posted - 2011.06.21 17:20:00 - [603] Originally by: Even So Originally by: Varla Blaydes While I do like the whole "my character has a purpose other than a face in the corner of my screen" aspect, a "Do not leave ship" option would be nice when docking, especially if it's for a moment to repair hull and recharge sheild/cap before jumping back out into a mission. Isn't there a setting to disable this function? not yet - and a first look over the various tabs of the options window didnt reveal one .... hope for a later patch fix
Rogue Sheperd Gallente Stella Nova Inc. Elemental Tide	Posted - 2011.06.21 17:20:00 - [604] Originally by: 01011 101 Originally by: The Archarsonist Death of capsuleer era? i was under the impresion that my char lived in a tiny pod that he was hardwired into..... i had to leave eve when they did the last big update only just got a new laptop and got back into game, seems i may have to take enuther break though if ppls complaints about increased reqs are corect. guna miss my hanger veiw. i play eve to fly a spaceship not run around on foot i have 4 other mmo i play that do that just fine Always a fan of new content just hope i can play it and.... id like to remain a capsuleer plz I believe the idea of the pod is that it is a "mind-link" medium for the character to interact directly with the ships control systems and excape system. As the capsuleer pilot is a heavily invested in individual, compared to the rest of the ships crew (if any). I like to think of the captain/pilot/capsuleer is "hardwired" either wirelessly or with wires, to the ship, but there is a captains chair, bridge, etc. And that in the event of ship destruction, an emergency system is activated that encloses the captains chair in the pod and is ejected. I do not believe there is any lore in the past that stated that characters can not leave their pods. I have personally belived that my avatar commands his crew from the bridge of my ships and in a event of imminent destruction ejects in the escape pod. I dont like the idea of being neurally linked i prefer a nice captains seat. Rangers lead the way! Stellar Nova Rangers (SNR)
Mareck001 Distinguished Gentleman's Boating Club Test Alliance Please Ignore	Posted - 2011.06.21 17:20:00 - [605] Originally by: 01011 101 Originally by: The Archarsonist Death of capsuleer era? i was under the impresion that my char lived in a tiny pod that he was hardwired into..... i had to leave eve when they did the last big update only just got a new laptop and got back into game, seems i may have to take enuther break though if ppls complaints about increased reqs are corect. guna miss my hanger veiw. i play eve to fly a spaceship not run around on foot i have 4 other mmo i play that do that just fine Always a fan of new content just hope i can play it and.... id like to remain a capsuleer plz I believe the idea of the pod is that it is a "mind-link" medium for the character to interact directly with the ships control systems and excape system. As the capsuleer pilot is a heavily invested in individual, compared to the rest of the ships crew (if any). I like to think of the captain/pilot/capsuleer is "hardwired" either wirelessly or with wires, to the ship, but there is a captains chair, bridge, etc. And that in the event of ship destruction, an emergency system is activated that encloses the captains chair in the pod and is ejected. I do not believe there is any lore in the past that stated that characters can not leave their pods. You sir, show your age.........
To'Shua	Posted - 2011.06.21 17:20:00 - [606] Originally by: Lorin Edehiel Originally by: DarkTemplarCrimsonWolf The new player experience has gotten somewhat easier but is far from the level of traditional MMOs are at, 0.0 has gotten less easy to live in, pvp is still getting borked every now and then by ******ed blobs but that's been around for longer than the idea of walking in stations was pitched by CCP. I suggest you delete your post, no arguments posted, only a smug attitude, shall I guess you moaned when sanctums got the nerf? not realy. last time i was moaning was around 2008 (?) when GM NeverPlayedThisGameBeforeWhatIsIt decided to nerf the sh1.t out of carriers/motherships but a few more ppl joined me on forum and he changed his mind. "The new player experience has gotten somewhat easier" - dude, when i started to play this stupid game many new players sometimes had troubles to even understand what killed them. - CEOs while deploying POS (pieces-of-sh1.t, what we were calling them at the time) where cursing heavens life was hursh, hard and exciting. do you expect me to be impresed with walking? if i want to pay/play game where i can walk i would just log into quake, for free mate. Looks like your character has been in the game since January of 2006. Not bad, assuming you didn't buy it from someone else. Got you beat though -- July, 2004 for me. And I know there are still people in the game who started in beta. So, we've all got stories to tell, some good, some not so good. Running a dual Nvidia GTX 460 SLI rig here, and no problems. Push Physx to the second card. Saw an advertisement for a 460 card for $99 US yesterday. Too bad for me, I paid twice that a year ago for each of mine. Wish I had some of the net speeds people are posting.
BamBam's	Posted - 2011.06.21 17:21:00 - [607] is the server up yet ?
Varla Blaydes Amarr Imperial Trojan Remnants	Posted - 2011.06.21 17:22:00 - [608] Originally by: Even So Originally by: Varla Blaydes While I do like the whole "my character has a purpose other than a face in the corner of my screen" aspect, a "Do not leave ship" option would be nice when docking, especially if it's for a moment to repair hull and recharge sheild/cap before jumping back out into a mission. Isn't there a setting to disable this function? There is, it's only for a short while as far as I gathered reading the first dozen pages of this thread. But now that I think about it, you should be able to set a single, or multiple, station as your "home", and have that station be the one you walk around in, and leave the old-style hangar for other ones. It seems like it'd be the best of both worlds, and seems like it would be more fitting and realistic.
AF Machiavelli	Posted - 2011.06.21 17:22:00 - [609]
01011 101	Posted - 2011.06.21 17:23:00 - [610] Originally by: Mareck001 Originally by: 01011 101 Originally by: The Archarsonist Death of capsuleer era? i was under the impresion that my char lived in a tiny pod that he was hardwired into..... i had to leave eve when they did the last big update only just got a new laptop and got back into game, seems i may have to take enuther break though if ppls complaints about increased reqs are corect. guna miss my hanger veiw. i play eve to fly a spaceship not run around on foot i have 4 other mmo i play that do that just fine Always a fan of new content just hope i can play it and.... id like to remain a capsuleer plz I believe the idea of the pod is that it is a "mind-link" medium for the character to interact directly with the ships control systems and excape system. As the capsuleer pilot is a heavily invested in individual, compared to the rest of the ships crew (if any). I like to think of the captain/pilot/capsuleer is "hardwired" either wirelessly or with wires, to the ship, but there is a captains chair, bridge, etc. And that in the event of ship destruction, an emergency system is activated that encloses the captains chair in the pod and is ejected. I do not believe there is any lore in the past that stated that characters can not leave their pods. You sir, show your age......... It is how I like to imagine my playing of EVE, I conceed that I have not read widely on the fanfiction and CCP written lore

The Archanarchist	Posted - 2011.06.21 17:24:00 - [611] all im saying is pod pilots used to be shriveled husks wired to there ship, i liked that idea i can already walk around on station in startrek and i still prefer eve. PROVIDED i can run the damn game my laptop is 3 months old, i doubt it will have the specs to run eve post patch if GFX requirments are as ppl have stated i hope im wrong but nothing ive read has filled me with confidence. wish u all the best if i cant play anymore might catch up next time i can aford a new comp, probly be a few yrs though cause i just bought 1 and i have 4 other mmo's i play that it runs ok in event i cant play have a good 1 all and remember its not who u know its who u have compromising pictures of that counts
Ikeo58 Caldari Reformed Fr33ks	Posted - 2011.06.21 17:25:00 - [612] Originally by: BamBam's is the server up yet ? Hate to give you bad news but.... EVE Online: Incarna 1.0 deployment downtime extended EVE Online: Incarna 1.0 is currently being deployed. The database updates are taking longer than expected, and therefore the downtime has been extended. We expect to open Tranquility to the players at 21:00 UTC. Thank you for your understanding. Dont run, you'll only die tired....
Archibald Creed	Posted - 2011.06.21 17:25:00 - [613] Originally by: Tak E Yon LULZSEC hacker got nabbed in london, YAY! http://www.cnn.com/2011/WORLD/europe/06/21/uk.sony.hack.arrest/index.html No mention about Eve or other sites such as minecraft though :( Sorry for the subject change, looked like you all were having soo much fun :P The Lulz Boat @LulzSec The Lulz Boat Seems the glorious leader of LulzSec got arrested, it's all over now... wait... we're all still here! Which poor bastard did they take down? read tweet
Demonfuge Malevolent	Posted - 2011.06.21 17:26:00 - [614] I got up and Eve was offline, nearly bedtime now and still offline ;) Going to watch one more DVD I think - any suggestions for good sci-fi movies I might have missed? I'm guessing some of you might know the names of a few?
Lorin Edehiel Northmoor Inc.	Posted - 2011.06.21 17:26:00 - [615] Originally by: 01011 101 Edited by: 01011 101 on 21/06/2011 17:19:31 Originally by: Lorin Edehiel Originally by: 01011 101 The "harshness" of EVE is player driven. CCP do not interfer with player harshness such as general scamming as this would catalyse petitions etc. The learning curve of EVE becoming streamlined does not change the harshness of EVE. There has been no research conducted that the avg. intelligence of players has become lower. I would like to put forward a hypothesis that: Please note: Maybe I'm completly wrong, I am tired unfortunately, and I'm not meaning to troll, I am attempting to analyse community behaviour Older EVE players, who once touted the complexity of EVE and propogated an elitist attitude within the community when comparing them and EVE with other MMO's, and who are now becoming generally tired of a game and are on the verge of leaving, are now self-validating thier past elitist ego through complaining that EVE is becoming more simple and that the avg. player inteligence is lower. Yarr so... when did you start playing this game, mate? Edit: in "'s 4 years maybe more? I'm just postulating "regarding themes" mind you. Your reply and wording indicates a theme of player's "EVE playing" age in relation to how valid their opinions are. your statement is valid, again. that's why children dont vote, cause no one cares what they think. lack of experience. 4yrs you are saying? then i guess you have missed the best times of eve, unfortunately. around 2005 i believe we had the most fun in this game. down hill since... (unless you love black screens, lag-fests, blobs and such. i dont)
Rogue Sheperd Gallente Stella Nova Inc. Elemental Tide	Posted - 2011.06.21 17:26:00 - [616] Hey if this works with stations perhaps planets? i would enjoy visiting the Gallente homeworld and capital city. Rangers lead the way! Stellar Nova Rangers (SNR)
Marley Nesta	Posted - 2011.06.21 17:27:00 - [617] Originally by: AF Machiavelli I say I must agree with you
Jason Quixos	Posted - 2011.06.21 17:28:00 - [618] "Old players" complaining about changes and how the old days were - its not just restricted to EVE. This is a global issue with most companies. Run by old men, not willing to change their ways an evolve with the rest of the industry. CCP are setting a benchmark, bridging 2 gaming platforms together with the release of Dust514. They obviously have a lot of groundwork and items and features to change to make the release of dust514 go smoothly, because console gamers are less forgiving than PC/MAC users. But reading many of the posts here, it could change your opinion on that fact. I have seen posts asking for a "known bugs/issues" area. This is the worse thing a company can do, as this basically highlights incompetence. "We know what the issues are, but there is no updates as to when we might fix them" The worse approach a company can take towards its customer base. At the end of the day that is what we all are to CCP, they do not aim to disappoint. The only good point i have read is about CCP perhaps being too ambitious with their release times, then "suddenly realizing" its going to take longer. Someone needs sacked for making these poor judgements of estimated times. Players will troll you forever for that! Will make sites for ISK
MF Machiavelli Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic	Posted - 2011.06.21 17:28:00 - [619] YOU KNOW IT WOULD MAKE ALOT MORE SENSE TO OVERCOMPENSATE THE AMOUNT OF TIME YOU THINK THE UPDATE WILL TAKE AND OPEN IT EARLY INSTEAD OF EXTENDING THE EXTENDED DT ----EVERY TIME---- YOU GUYS DO A BLOODY PATCH. I'M SURPRISED PEOPLE COME ON AT THE GIVEN TIME THINKING IT'LL BE READY, I MEAN, WHEN HAVE YOU GUYS MADE A DEADLINE??
The Archarsonist	Posted - 2011.06.21 17:29:00 - [620] you just have to read about how cloning works to see capsuleers dont leave there pods there monitored 24/7 and at point of death there loaded into a new body in a new pod, which is loaded directly into ship, they then comunicate via coms to crew, thats how i understood it anyways Enternal life at cost of a even smaller prison then a normal human

Gabriel Grimoire Ascendent. Gentlemen's Agreement	Posted - 2011.06.21 17:29:00 - [621] Originally by: Zagdul Originally by: 01011 101 Originally by: cdr cleaver Well CCP it looks like youve done a good one on us this time doesn't it !!!... Here I am with a brand new computer the very best I could afford to buy, and guess what ?? its got an AMD card in it !! (Asus AMD Radeon HD 6950 DirectCU II 2GB Graphics Card)I had this new computer custom built for me so I could get as much game play out of eve that I could, and what have you lot just done?? screwed around with the damn graphics that's what !! what's the point in folks upgrading there computers, have you lot got something against AMD / ATI?? just 1 question for you lot now WHY??????...I suspect you have your hands in NVIDIA'S pocket as well have you ... NOT HAPPY... I would suspect the game will run well with hardly any difference for you compared to Nvidia users? Some minor features arn't compatible and it is partly to do with the AMD/ATI cards isn't it? ATI = Performance on a Budget Nvidia = new features on latest tech. CCP went with latest tech, dudes who decided with budget cards get left behind. ATI users should be upset they chose an inferior product, not that CCP chose to develop on newer, superior technology. Yet another example of an nVidia fanboy pulling things out of their ass with absolutely nothing to actually back up the statement. If you spent any small amount of time searching the web and reading about the whole "ATI vs. nVidia" battle, you'd know that both companies have made great advances in GPU tech and continue to do so. There is no clear cut "superior" here. The whole reason the battle is so competitive is because both of the companies continue to one-up each other at an alarming rate. Each has has countless "victories" over the other as new tech surfaces on both sides. CCP went with nVidia on this one. That's all. They chose to tailor the game to nVidia hardware. Just like countless other developers/publishers choose to tailor theirs to AMD/ATI. I personally have multiple boxes with nVidia and AMD/ATI tech in them. They both have their strengths and weaknesses. It all depends on the software your trying to run on them at this point. I don't see a clear cut "winner" in this race any time soon. Stop talking out of your anus.
Kaikara	Posted - 2011.06.21 17:29:00 - [622] I am looking forward to these additional features, but not looking forward to character creation as I need a better pc than my laptop as I've tried in the past with little luck. There sure is a lot of negativity and comment pvp in here! Originally by: To'Shua And I know there are still people in the game who started in beta. So, we've all got stories to tell, some good, some not so good. To'Shua, have you roleplayed in EVE or been part of a community for an extended period of time? I'd like to ask you some questions for a research study that I am conducting. EVE Linky
polerbear	Posted - 2011.06.21 17:29:00 - [623] So... I hope SOMEONE sees this and answers amongst the flurry of comments about the extended downtime... Situation: I have a character who's skillqueue now ends during the downtime. Question: Does anyone know if there is a precedent for getting the skillpoints back for time spent with an empty queue in situations like this, and how might I get reimbursed? - I couldn't get online for RL reasons last night, was relieved when the plan said it should be back up in time, but now its extended past the training completion time... relief is now gone
Wintermute IX	Posted - 2011.06.21 17:29:00 - [624] There better be a way of opting out of this stupid walk about system. It just looks annoying, and cumbersome to get things done. THis is NOT WoW CCP, I and most people i know dont want this ****.
The Sarj	Posted - 2011.06.21 17:29:00 - [625] Originally by: MF Machiavelli YOU KNOW IT WOULD MAKE ALOT MORE SENSE TO OVERCOMPENSATE THE AMOUNT OF TIME YOU THINK THE UPDATE WILL TAKE AND OPEN IT EARLY INSTEAD OF EXTENDING THE EXTENDED DT ----EVERY TIME---- YOU GUYS DO A BLOODY PATCH. I'M SURPRISED PEOPLE COME ON AT THE GIVEN TIME THINKING IT'LL BE READY, I MEAN, WHEN HAVE YOU GUYS MADE A DEADLINE?? Tyrannis I think. At least one of the patches anyway. Thanks for the all caps though, it really makes your opinion valid!
To'Shua	Posted - 2011.06.21 17:30:00 - [626] Originally by: 01011 101 Edited by: 01011 101 on 21/06/2011 17:19:31 Originally by: Lorin Edehiel Originally by: 01011 101 The "harshness" of EVE is player driven. CCP do not interfer with player harshness such as general scamming as this would catalyse petitions etc. The learning curve of EVE becoming streamlined does not change the harshness of EVE. There has been no research conducted that the avg. intelligence of players has become lower. I would like to put forward a hypothesis that: Please note: Maybe I'm completly wrong, I am tired unfortunately, and I'm not meaning to troll, I am attempting to analyse community behaviour Older EVE players, who once touted the complexity of EVE and propogated an elitist attitude within the community when comparing them and EVE with other MMO's, and who are now becoming generally tired of a game and are on the verge of leaving, are now self-validating thier past elitist ego through complaining that EVE is becoming more simple and that the avg. player inteligence is lower. Yarr so... when did you start playing this game, mate? Edit: in "'s 4 years maybe more? I'm just postulating "regarding themes" mind you. Your reply and wording indicates a theme of player's "EVE playing" age in relation to how valid their opinions are. Here, I'll say it (we all did back in the day) -- "Post with your main!" Your character was started on 2011.05.23 19:41, as stated in your employment history.
WisdomPanda Gallente Goatriders Horde The Scapegoats	Posted - 2011.06.21 17:31:00 - [627] Originally by: MF Machiavelli YOU KNOW IT WOULD MAKE ALOT MORE SENSE TO OVERCOMPENSATE THE AMOUNT OF TIME YOU THINK THE UPDATE WILL TAKE AND OPEN IT EARLY INSTEAD OF EXTENDING THE EXTENDED DT ----EVERY TIME---- YOU GUYS DO A BLOODY PATCH. I'M SURPRISED PEOPLE COME ON AT THE GIVEN TIME THINKING IT'LL BE READY, I MEAN, WHEN HAVE YOU GUYS MADE A DEADLINE?? After a few patches, you just mentally add 5~6 hours to the time. Come back 3~4 hours after it was suppose to be done and fine there's only 15mins left. Win! ----- Cheesecake, Natures ultimate weapon.
Lorin Edehiel Northmoor Inc.	Posted - 2011.06.21 17:31:00 - [628] Originally by: To'Shua Looks like your character has been in the game since January of 2006. Not bad, assuming you didn't buy it from someone else. Got you beat though -- July, 2004 for me. And I know there are still people in the game who started in beta. So, we've all got stories to tell, some good, some not so good. Running a dual Nvidia GTX 460 SLI rig here, and no problems. Push Physx to the second card. Saw an advertisement for a 460 card for $99 US yesterday. Too bad for me, I paid twice that a year ago for each of mine. Wish I had some of the net speeds people are posting. log out log in move user to main page click bookmark find last page post actualy played for a couple of months on trials only back in 2004. started 1st char in 2005. this is only an alt. one of many.
Sunbird Huy Caldari WEPRA CORP	Posted - 2011.06.21 17:31:00 - [629] Originally by: AF Machiavelli We all are...we all are...we all have been...left speechless with this wait :D
Brutus Killii	Posted - 2011.06.21 17:31:00 - [630] At least they apply it properly, i'd rather they overshot deadlines and did it well, than do what blizzard do with world of warcraft and rush it, and screw it up nearly every time so have to constantly apply fixes to remove the millions of bugs and glitches. try focusing on what they do well instead of slagging off all the shortfallings, nothings perfect.

Even So	Posted - 2011.06.21 17:32:00 - [631] Originally by: MF Machiavelli YOU KNOW IT WOULD MAKE ALOT MORE SENSE TO OVERCOMPENSATE THE AMOUNT OF TIME YOU THINK THE UPDATE WILL TAKE AND OPEN IT EARLY INSTEAD OF EXTENDING THE EXTENDED DT ----EVERY TIME---- YOU GUYS DO A BLOODY PATCH. I'M SURPRISED PEOPLE COME ON AT THE GIVEN TIME THINKING IT'LL BE READY, I MEAN, WHEN HAVE YOU GUYS MADE A DEADLINE?? Hasn't it been several hours already since they pushed the deadline back? Its not like they keep changing it. Yes I am bored and impatient without eve, its why I'm here
John192	Posted - 2011.06.21 17:32:00 - [632] Originally by: Drizzd Originally by: Even So Originally by: Varla Blaydes While I do like the whole "my character has a purpose other than a face in the corner of my screen" aspect, a "Do not leave ship" option would be nice when docking, especially if it's for a moment to repair hull and recharge sheild/cap before jumping back out into a mission. Isn't there a setting to disable this function? not yet - and a first look over the various tabs of the options window didnt reveal one .... hope for a later patch fix Disable "load station (something)" cant remember the exact name but that will stop CQ fromloadin upon docking
Valleree	Posted - 2011.06.21 17:32:00 - [633] Originally by: Rogue Sheperd Hey if this works with stations perhaps planets? i would enjoy visiting the Gallente homeworld and capital city. That would be Dust 514...Don't mucky up my Eve with any more crap. There's already enough useless crap on here that doesn't help the game functionality.
Kaikara	Posted - 2011.06.21 17:32:00 - [634] Originally by: The Archanarchist i doubt it will have the specs to run eve post patch if GFX requirments are as ppl have stated i hope im wrong but nothing ive read has filled me with confidence. I'm worried about my laptop being able to handle it as well, its over 3 years old, hopefully the interface can be turned on and off
BamBam's	Posted - 2011.06.21 17:32:00 - [635] EVE Online: Incarna 1.0 deployment downtime extended EVE Online: Incarna 1.0 is currently being deployed. The database updates are taking longer than expected, and therefore the downtime has been extended. We expect to open Tranquility to the players at 21:00 UTC. Thank you for your understanding. well love how they write thx for understanding.. I really dont ^^ Give SP that i understand!!!
Loccdown	Posted - 2011.06.21 17:33:00 - [636] yea for a window dressing patch too just avoiding fixing the real issues in the game...like trying to fix a broken car with a new sticker or a paint job....
Yaaman Duolith Systems Knights of the Rising Phoenix	Posted - 2011.06.21 17:34:00 - [637] Man, I love Patchdays... Sitting here with a few beers, reading all these sweet tears, EMOrages, f*** CCP, and "is the server up yet" You people are even funnier on the forums than in the game. My advice: Relax, take a walk, or even a night without EVE. The universe wont selfdestruct if you don't log in for a few hours, you know... _________________________________________ If anyting is worth doing, it's worth getting someone else to do it for you.
01011 101	Posted - 2011.06.21 17:34:00 - [638] Originally by: Archibald Creed Originally by: Tak E Yon LULZSEC hacker got nabbed in london, YAY! http://www.cnn.com/2011/WORLD/europe/06/21/uk.sony.hack.arrest/index.html No mention about Eve or other sites such as minecraft though :( Sorry for the subject change, looked like you all were having soo much fun :P The Lulz Boat @LulzSec The Lulz Boat Seems the glorious leader of LulzSec got arrested, it's all over now... wait... we're all still here! Which poor bastard did they take down? read tweet Will check this out, from what I heard it isn't the leader
Jason Quixos	Posted - 2011.06.21 17:34:00 - [639] Originally by: polerbear So... I hope SOMEONE sees this and answers amongst the flurry of comments about the extended downtime... Situation: I have a character who's skillqueue now ends during the downtime. Question: Does anyone know if there is a precedent for getting the skillpoints back for time spent with an empty queue in situations like this, and how might I get reimbursed? - I couldn't get online for RL reasons last night, was relieved when the plan said it should be back up in time, but now its extended past the training completion time... relief is now gone In most cases i would say, thats tough, but a petition when the game iis back online, may be your only/best option polerbear Will make sites for ISK - www.OG-Alliance.com
RIPxCraZyDeaD	Posted - 2011.06.21 17:35:00 - [640] having fun yet

Varla Blaydes Amarr Imperial Trojan Remnants	Posted - 2011.06.21 17:35:00 - [641] Originally by: Yaaman Man, I love Patchdays... Sitting here with a few beers, reading all these sweet tears, EMOrages, f*** CCP, and "is the server up yet" You people are even funnier on the forums than in the game. My advice: Relax, take a walk, or even a night without EVE. The universe wont selfdestruct if you don't log in for a few hours, you know... I don't believe you, and I value my existance to not find out by not logging in.
Valleree	Posted - 2011.06.21 17:36:00 - [642] It would be really nice if they took our advice and WAY overcompensated. Dev: "Hey, it looks like this is going to actually take until 18:00, boss." Senior Dev: "Don't ****ing say 18:00 on the forums, tell them 21:00...then we'll just come back online at 18:00 and everyone will be surprised."
CFValhue	Posted - 2011.06.21 17:36:00 - [643] i just play another game till its up simple :)
Ikeo58 Caldari Reformed Fr33ks	Posted - 2011.06.21 17:37:00 - [644] Whats worse is they have taken down SISI as well.....At least give us something to do Dont run, you'll only die tired....
Gabriel Grimoire Ascendent. Gentlemen's Agreement	Posted - 2011.06.21 17:37:00 - [645] Originally by: Valleree It would be really nice if they took our advice and WAY overcompensated. Dev: "Hey, it looks like this is going to actually take until 18:00, boss." Senior Dev: "Don't **ing say 18:00 on the forums, tell them 21:00...then we'll just come back online at 18:00 and everyone will be surprised." This. This so **ing hard.
The Sarj	Posted - 2011.06.21 17:39:00 - [646] I love DT. Gives me time to listen to this song http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VgvM7av1o1Q
01011 101	Posted - 2011.06.21 17:39:00 - [647] Originally by: Lorin Edehiel so... when did you start playing this game, mate? Edit: in "'s 4 years maybe more? I'm just postulating "regarding themes" mind you. Your reply and wording indicates a theme of player's "EVE playing" age in relation to how valid their opinions are. your statement is valid, again. that's why children dont vote, cause no one cares what they think. lack of experience. 4yrs you are saying? then i guess you have missed the best times of eve, unfortunately. around 2005 i believe we had the most fun in this game. down hill since... (unless you love black screens, lag-fests, blobs and such. i dont) Yeah, I'm off and on, sold my original character unfortunately, why will you leave though?
Varla Blaydes Amarr Imperial Trojan Remnants	Posted - 2011.06.21 17:39:00 - [648] Originally by: Gabriel Grimoire Originally by: Valleree It would be really nice if they took our advice and WAY overcompensated. Dev: "Hey, it looks like this is going to actually take until 18:00, boss." Senior Dev: "Don't **ing say 18:00 on the forums, tell them 21:00...then we'll just come back online at 18:00 and everyone will be surprised." This. This so **ing hard. Alternatively, they could be sitting there going "HAHA! LOOK AT THEM SQUIRM!" and postponing it in a deliberate attempt to troll us.
Ikeo58 Caldari Reformed Fr33ks	Posted - 2011.06.21 17:40:00 - [649] Whats worse is they have taken down SISI as well.....At least give us something to do Dont run, you'll only die tired....
Rogue Sheperd Gallente Stella Nova Inc. Elemental Tide	Posted - 2011.06.21 17:40:00 - [650] Originally by: Yaaman Man, I love Patchdays... Sitting here with a few beers, reading all these sweet tears, EMOrages, f*** CCP, and "is the server up yet" You people are even funnier on the forums than in the game. My advice: Relax, take a walk, or even a night without EVE. The universe wont selfdestruct if you don't log in for a few hours, you know... Or play CNC4 and blow stuff up Rangers lead the way! Stellar Nova Rangers (SNR)

Rukhbah	Posted - 2011.06.21 17:41:00 - [651] Originally by: Loccdown yea for a window dressing patch too just avoiding fixing the real issues in the game...like trying to fix a broken car with a new sticker or a paint job.... Exactly. What if your car broke down and the mechanic showed up with Flasy Pinstriping, Shiny new wheel covers, and Plush seat covers and Fuzzy dice to hang from your rearview mirror, put all that on and drove away without fixing the reason why your car wouldn't run right. Would you be happy?
Newton Gwyn	Posted - 2011.06.21 17:42:00 - [652] didn't this EVE video cover stepping out of the pod? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eNWWxD-q-bg
Costigan Borgia	Posted - 2011.06.21 17:42:00 - [653] Do I have to download eve again to get incarna or will it auto patch from the game log in automatically?
Ikeo58 Caldari Reformed Fr33ks	Posted - 2011.06.21 17:43:00 - [654] Originally by: Rogue Sheperd Originally by: Yaaman Man, I love Patchdays... Sitting here with a few beers, reading all these sweet tears, EMOrages, f*** CCP, and "is the server up yet" You people are even funnier on the forums than in the game. My advice: Relax, take a walk, or even a night without EVE. The universe wont selfdestruct if you don't log in for a few hours, you know... Or play CNC4 and blow stuff up Thats not command and conquer - that was like EVE turning into WOW Dont run, you'll only die tired....
Jason Quixos	Posted - 2011.06.21 17:44:00 - [655] Originally by: Rukhbah Originally by: Loccdown yea for a window dressing patch too just avoiding fixing the real issues in the game...like trying to fix a broken car with a new sticker or a paint job.... Exactly. What if your car broke down and the mechanic showed up with Flasy Pinstriping, Shiny new wheel covers, and Plush seat covers and Fuzzy dice to hang from your rearview mirror, put all that on and drove away without fixing the reason why your car wouldn't run right. Would you be happy? HAHAHAHAHa best post ever award nominee! Will make sites for ISK - www.OG-Alliance.com
brammator Caldari	Posted - 2011.06.21 17:44:00 - [656] It's always funny when nvidia fanbois bark about "superior" and "polished" technology.
dealer255 mat	Posted - 2011.06.21 17:44:00 - [657] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uwQauzjYXxg
Dako Semi	Posted - 2011.06.21 17:44:00 - [658] My god folks stop with the name calling here. and start looking at yourself. This is a game. not medical mistake or something. just give them the time so all run smooth. if you don't have a life go play wow or something. keep in mind a lot of players appriciate how CCP works here. like free updates and the they try to keep us up to date with when the servers are expected to be back. imho i rather have they inform me then they would say: the server is offline for 36 hours. just keep in mind. it are real people behind here and they make a living like you surpose to do. it is there job and the same as you they try to do there job as good as posible. Just my 2.5 dollar Dako
Kaikara	Posted - 2011.06.21 17:45:00 - [659] Edited by: Kaikara on 21/06/2011 17:47:07 Originally by: Lorin Edehiel not realy. last time i was moaning was around 2008 (?) when GM NeverPlayedThisGameBeforeWhatIsIt decided to nerf the sh1.t out of carriers/motherships but a few more ppl joined me on forum and he changed his mind. "The new player experience has gotten somewhat easier" - dude, when i started to play this stupid game many new players sometimes had troubles to even understand what killed them. - CEOs while deploying POS (pieces-of-sh1.t, what we were calling them at the time) where cursing heavens life was hursh, hard and exciting. do you expect me to be impresed with walking? if i want to pay/play game where i can walk i would just log into quake, for free mate. Hey Lorin, and others, I am doing a study and would really appreciate a few volunteers to contribute to my study. I would need to ask you some questions about your experiences in EVE. If you're interested here is the Linky. I'll send the eve-messages once Incarna is online to anyone who expresses interest by posting in my forum thread, I need 10 atm. Regards All, ...fingers crossed for trouble free.."ish" Incarna! Kaikara EDIT: My post needs to add to the discussion. How about we start to suggest potential changes and people sign them in thread if they agree?
Nell Tu EMIX INC I Got Banned For That	Posted - 2011.06.21 17:45:00 - [660] I KNEW I should have queued up skill longer than 7 days....

EvilBarty	Posted - 2011.06.21 17:46:00 - [661] Can a member of CCP plz confirm the time TQ is supposed to be up plz theres to much confustion about when its gonna be bk up
Even So	Posted - 2011.06.21 17:46:00 - [662] By the way, everyone should see if Nvidia website has updated drivers for your computer. A couple months ago I updated, and I just checked and they have new drivers.
Valleree	Posted - 2011.06.21 17:46:00 - [663] Originally by: Rukhbah Originally by: Loccdown yea for a window dressing patch too just avoiding fixing the real issues in the game...like trying to fix a broken car with a new sticker or a paint job.... Exactly. What if your car broke down and the mechanic showed up with Flasy Pinstriping, Shiny new wheel covers, and Plush seat covers and Fuzzy dice to hang from your rearview mirror, put all that on and drove away without fixing the reason why your car wouldn't run right. Would you be happy? I will give you CCP's perspective: The players in this game that have been playing for years and love their 0.0 warfare have invested years of their time, and tons of their money. They are sitting in supercaps in space and are the directors and CEO's of corporations and alliances. If they leave the game, it's an unfortunate side effect of the current state of the game. However, kids with ADHD can only pay attention to things that look cool and have nice graphics and such. If CCP makes it like an awesome alternate reality for the kids to escape to, CCP wins. Most people who hate it, but have invested crazy amounts of time and effort, will likely stick around just to try to get something out of it. Even those who don't necessarily play....still pay.
Zagdul Gallente Shadowed Command Fatal Ascension	Posted - 2011.06.21 17:47:00 - [664] Edited by: Zagdul on 21/06/2011 17:51:19 Originally by: Gabriel Grimoire Originally by: Zagdul Originally by: 01011 101 Originally by: cdr cleaver Well CCP it looks like youve done a good one on us this time doesn't it !!!... Here I am with a brand new computer the very best I could afford to buy, and guess what ?? its got an AMD card in it !! (Asus AMD Radeon HD 6950 DirectCU II 2GB Graphics Card)I had this new computer custom built for me so I could get as much game play out of eve that I could, and what have you lot just done?? screwed around with the damn graphics that's what !! what's the point in folks upgrading there computers, have you lot got something against AMD / ATI?? just 1 question for you lot now WHY??????...I suspect you have your hands in NVIDIA'S pocket as well have you ... NOT HAPPY... I would suspect the game will run well with hardly any difference for you compared to Nvidia users? Some minor features arn't compatible and it is partly to do with the AMD/ATI cards isn't it? ATI = Performance on a Budget Nvidia = new features on latest tech. CCP went with latest tech, dudes who decided with budget cards get left behind. ATI users should be upset they chose an inferior product, not that CCP chose to develop on newer, superior technology. Yet another example of an nVidia fanboy pulling things out of their ass with absolutely nothing to actually back up the statement. If you spent any small amount of time searching the web and reading about the whole "ATI vs. nVidia" battle, you'd know that both companies have made great advances in GPU tech and continue to do so. There is no clear cut "superior" here. The whole reason the battle is so competitive is because both of the companies continue to one-up each other at an alarming rate. Each has has countless "victories" over the other as new tech surfaces on both sides. CCP went with nVidia on this one. That's all. They chose to tailor the game to nVidia hardware. Just like countless other developers/publishers choose to tailor theirs to AMD/ATI. I personally have multiple boxes with nVidia and AMD/ATI tech in them. They both have their strengths and weaknesses. It all depends on the software your trying to run on them at this point. I don't see a clear cut "winner" in this race any time soon. Stop talking out of your anus. I knew someone would bite. EDIT: Serious response: If you did a little research on what's disabled, you'd understand that there are compatibility issues with them and crossfire. ATI's weakeness has always been it's drivers. Yes, they're less expensive and you get more bang for the buck, but they suck at developing drivers to run the latest tech. This is just where Nvidia is superior. I don't care who makes a better chip, if the driver won't run the capabilities of said chip, the chip is worthless. ATI's drivers always have issues. This isn't CCP's fault, this is ATI's.
Jehnji	Posted - 2011.06.21 17:50:00 - [665] Originally by: EvilBarty Can a member of CCP plz confirm the time TQ is supposed to be up plz theres to much confustion about when its gonna be bk up Quote: EVE Online: Incarna 1.0 is currently being deployed. The database updates are taking longer than expected, and therefore the downtime has been extended. We expect to open Tranquility to the players at 21:00 UTC. Thank you for your understanding.
Costigan Borgia	Posted - 2011.06.21 17:50:00 - [666] Can anyone tell me if I have to download the EVE client again to get incarna or will it auto patch during game log in??
yars The Collective B O R G	Posted - 2011.06.21 17:50:00 - [667] So, what does everyone think is the worst patch in the past the CCP has ever done. The Nerf of the Moros kind of sucked and still isn't right, The changing from Mother Ships to Super Carriers and adding Fighter Bombers has changed how the game is played more than anything I have seen in the past 4 years, but I can't say its good or bad. The Big Speed nerf had everyone upset when it came out but ended up not really being that big of a deal. The Jump Bridge nerf seems like it might be the worst in the future looking back. What other ones am I missing and what do you think messed up the game.
Khellendrose	Posted - 2011.06.21 17:51:00 - [668] Originally by: Nell Tu I KNEW I should have queued up skill longer than 7 days.... I lold. Thank god i have mining barge 5 in the run :D
Ami Pond	Posted - 2011.06.21 17:52:00 - [669] hope they fix the Rorqual deploying upside down
Lion Arthie	Posted - 2011.06.21 17:52:00 - [670] Edited by: Lion Arthie on 21/06/2011 18:10:20 nvm

Lorin Edehiel Northmoor Inc.	Posted - 2011.06.21 17:53:00 - [671] Originally by: Valleree Originally by: Rukhbah Originally by: Loccdown yea for a window dressing patch too just avoiding fixing the real issues in the game...like trying to fix a broken car with a new sticker or a paint job.... Exactly. What if your car broke down and the mechanic showed up with Flasy Pinstriping, Shiny new wheel covers, and Plush seat covers and Fuzzy dice to hang from your rearview mirror, put all that on and drove away without fixing the reason why your car wouldn't run right. Would you be happy? I will give you CCP's perspective: The players in this game that have been playing for years and love their 0.0 warfare have invested years of their time, and tons of their money. They are sitting in supercaps in space and are the directors and CEO's of corporations and alliances. If they leave the game, it's an unfortunate side effect of the current state of the game. However, kids with ADHD can only pay attention to things that look cool and have nice graphics and such. If CCP makes it like an awesome alternate reality for the kids to escape to, CCP wins. Most people who hate it, but have invested crazy amounts of time and effort, will likely stick around just to try to get something out of it. Even those who don't necessarily play....still pay. haha, liked that ADHD part. love true, true..
Cole Ontor	Posted - 2011.06.21 17:54:00 - [672] now that gfx puppi'es gets walkinstation can 0.0 ppl get walkalloverstation pacth plz
Kerppe Krulli	Posted - 2011.06.21 17:55:00 - [673] HAHA "longer than expected", sometimes the lies CCP tells are pure humor. But on the bright side the extended time (expect another 5-10 hrs at least being realistic) is getting closer to my uptime for the 1billion isk pool
Ivana Twinkle GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation	Posted - 2011.06.21 17:56:00 - [674] Originally by: Costigan Borgia Can anyone tell me if I have to download the EVE client again to get incarna or will it auto patch during game log in?? Why would you log in ?
Dako Semi	Posted - 2011.06.21 17:56:00 - [675] Originally by: Even So By the way, everyone should see if Nvidia website has updated drivers for your computer. A couple months ago I updated, and I just checked and they have new drivers. Ty for the tip m8 Updated my drivers too :) o/ Dako
simon Ogrady	Posted - 2011.06.21 17:57:00 - [676] The CQ setup sounds like the same thing Medal of Honor and other games have in their program ,I would prefer the old hangar bay be the default site and have the CQ available as an option should I want it , not all computers will be able to handle the added memory/graphics/cpu demand , for many the old hangar bay serves it's purpose and the "Bling" is not needed or wanted .... the betterment to the program is great but at some point the players will have to decide weather to spend real life money on upgrading their systems or quiting eve , I plan on playing EVE for a long time but if it is play or have a place to live then the game goes ...
Hykke Free Imperial Vikings	Posted - 2011.06.21 17:57:00 - [677] It's very nice that CCP creates this "official release thread". Every release has one... What I don't understand is why CCP doesn't post updates more regularly in this thread. I just spent half an hour reading backwards trying to find the latest update from CCP... Didn't see it
NOHEMI	Posted - 2011.06.21 17:58:00 - [678] Edited by: NOHEMI on 21/06/2011 17:59:11 Only 49 ppl are waiting to play, so it seems... what's the rush
Fise	Posted - 2011.06.21 17:59:00 - [679] I hope there is a closet in my room. I would love to be able to stack all the corps i have in there.
Dako Semi	Posted - 2011.06.21 17:59:00 - [680] Originally by: Hykke It's very nice that CCP creates this "official release thread". Every release has one... What I don't understand is why CCP doesn't post updates more regularly in this thread. I just spent half an hour reading backwards trying to find the latest update from CCP... Didn't see it http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1532385

Sheila Shenrose	Posted - 2011.06.21 17:59:00 - [681] Edited by: Sheila Shenrose on 21/06/2011 18:01:00 Originally by: Costigan Borgia Can anyone tell me if I have to download the EVE client again to get incarna or will it auto patch during game log in?? either you pick the download link to the current patch provided in this thread multiple times, or you can just wait like always. once servers and services are ready, you will get the well-known auto-patch routine. so no complete reinstall.
EVE'NS ODDS	Posted - 2011.06.21 18:01:00 - [682] Where can i get the update?...do i need to reinstall the client?
Costigan Borgia	Posted - 2011.06.21 18:01:00 - [683] Thanks for taking the time to answer sheila!
Hoertjie	Posted - 2011.06.21 18:01:00 - [684] Is the patch available for download yet? If so, where can i find it please?
olsted	Posted - 2011.06.21 18:03:00 - [685] Quote: You can now Show Info on titans after being podded. WOW! It's about time CCP got off their asses and fixed this one!!! Kudos!!!! -O.
Sheila Shenrose	Posted - 2011.06.21 18:04:00 - [686] Originally by: EVE'NS ODDS Where can i get the update?...do i need to reinstall the client? no reinstall. just wait till services are up and use auto-patcher. if you can't wait, look around page 5 of this thread and you will find a working link to the current incarna v1 patch. only if something goes wrong during a patch, you have to reinstall. so to be on the safe side, just wait for auto-patch.
Herbalistick	Posted - 2011.06.21 18:04:00 - [687] I guess this DT has cut into most ppls free time leaving most **ed. I dont get all this bull** about fanboys? lol. I got myself a new pc Nov last year custom built by pcspecialist.co.uk and yea i went with the Nvidia physX mainly because the specs looked more appealing, its played everything ive thrown at it. Before that i played eve on a tiny netbook! lol with lag near crowded systems but good enough to play through beggining stages ready for new pc. So put my netbook in ur overheated GPU pipes an smoke it!
Lorin Edehiel Northmoor Inc.	Posted - 2011.06.21 18:05:00 - [688] Originally by: Fise I hope there is a closet in my room. I would love to be able to stack all the corps i have in there. actualy you have a good idea, bro :] if i was able to cut off my victim's head and put in on a wall, maybe i could dig that expansion... walking doesnt interest me. i watch my ships from distance. no effects, no sound, no bullsh1.t
Madame Hiroko	Posted - 2011.06.21 18:06:00 - [689] So far in this thread there have been two types of people. The chill people who are like "Yeah bad mon, da boat comin' in' wit' da ganja an' ting be late mon, de downtime from de babylon be mad 'eavy but Ja be watchin' us an' ting." http://www.smokersworld.info/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/n4001-drugs-usa-man-smoking-*********-joint-reggae-on-the-river-northern-california.jpg Then there's the second type. The angry kid who's stomping his feet and going "WHERE'S MAWH DAMN PATCH, GIVE IT, GIVE IT NAAOOOO!" http://www.decibelmagazine.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/angry-baby.jpg And then, finally. There's me. I'm sceptical, and a little bit like, whuuut? But then I'm all chill anyway because it's not life or death. Halfway in between. http://www.hatersforhire.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/little-kid-smoking-cigarette-copy21.jpg
Jason Quixos	Posted - 2011.06.21 18:06:00 - [690] Originally by: Hykke It's very nice that CCP creates this "official release thread". Every release has one... What I don't understand is why CCP doesn't post updates more regularly in this thread. I just spent half an hour reading backwards trying to find the latest update from CCP... Didn't see it This is a thread for users. It generates traffic for CCP (even though they don't show adverts) it all adds to their popularity and market share. They don't have time to go through these posts and keep the memberbase up-dated, or questions answered. Some people are just dumb, and can't see the notice CCP posted about the DT being extended to 21:00 UTC. But some peeple will still come here and post about it, and ask for an update. All major news is posted to the most important page of the site, the HOMEPAGE. Would be nice if they updated the forums they gave a link to, but they don't have time or resources to answer individuals here, or post updates. Simply a discussion thread. Will make sites for ISK - www.OG-Alliance.com

Gregor Raspiche	Posted - 2011.06.21 18:06:00 - [691] Wow CCP late again... 1 suggestion : build a buffer into your E.T.I.C. so that you don't look completely incompetent by busting deadlines EVERY time. 1 request : Pull a receptionist from their desk to give customers regular updates when you fail to meet your self imposed time frames. If it looks like its going to be up in an hour let us know, if its gunna be a couple days own up to it. I like your product, but your communication leaves MUCH to be desired.
eveline watanabe	Posted - 2011.06.21 18:07:00 - [692] Originally by: Lorin Edehiel Originally by: Fise I hope there is a closet in my room. I would love to be able to stack all the corps i have in there. actualy you have a good idea, bro :] if i was able to cut off my victim's head and put in on a wall, maybe i could dig that expansion... walking doesnt interest me. i watch my ships from distance. no effects, no sound, no bullsh1.t If I can store em, I want to be able to try to dig the implants out of em... In full 3D glory!!!
DeathPaw	Posted - 2011.06.21 18:07:00 - [693] Was good till 15:00, but now I'm losing training time. Should have loaded something lenthy. Drat. Hurry CCP cause I'm stupid!
DrBlue The Grimreapers. Destiny Corrupted.	Posted - 2011.06.21 18:07:00 - [694] Quote: It is now only possible for one jump bridge to be online in a system at any given time. Whywhywhywhyyyyyy?! Btw I've downloaded and implemented the 267203-271273 patch, but the patch file was only 742mb. Is this information wrong? ________________________________________________ "Fix the problem, not the blame."
USGAnthrax Knights of Kador The Black Armada	Posted - 2011.06.21 18:08:00 - [695] Edited by: USGAnthrax on 21/06/2011 18:10:57 Edited by: USGAnthrax on 21/06/2011 18:09:23 As allways : Quote: "The database updates are taking longer than expected, and therefore the downtime has been extended." SERIOUSLY, IS IT POSSIBLE JUST ONE TIME, TO HAVE A PATCH DEPLOYED DURING THE TIME MEANT FOR IT ??? Playing this game since 2006 and never saw a EvE Update deployed in time... Your "SIM CITY IN SPACE STATIONS" that prolly gonna kill EvE's REAL Spirit isn't deployed in time... as allways. @ CCP GUYS : Why were you testing things on different tests servers and in internal divisions, if you are not even able to apply a Patch / New built after, without errors and Delay things ??? Omg, Please engage new personnal with "REAL QUALIFICATIONS" if you are not able to do it alone... (BORED !) One image per signature please. Zymurgist
Serenix Caldari	Posted - 2011.06.21 18:08:00 - [696] Good grief, all of the replies in this thread demanding that the servers come back up right now, moaning that sisi is down, being butthurt that DT has been extended, CAPSLOCK OMG IM SO FRICKIN' ANGRY... Get a life, and go out for the night or something. Are you actually that sad, that you have NOTHING else you can occupy your time with other than playing this game? You're reacting this strongly for a few hours downtime? That's downright pathetic. Go outside. And as for this 'I'm older than you, my opinion is more important' trend - that's practically fascism right there. We all pay subscriptions, you are no more important than anyone else here. Deal with it. That kind of attitude kills off games. Get over yourself, you sound like a bloody war veteran. Its. A. Game.
caltecia Caldari the recon inc KRYSIS.	Posted - 2011.06.21 18:08:00 - [697] Originally by: Lorin Edehiel Originally by: Fise I hope there is a closet in my room. I would love to be able to stack all the corps i have in there. actualy you have a good idea, bro :] if i was able to cut off my victim's head and put in on a wall, maybe i could dig that expansion... walking doesnt interest me. i watch my ships from distance. no effects, no sound, no bullsh1.t AGREED!!
Captain Zone	Posted - 2011.06.21 18:09:00 - [698] When will the new client be available for download?
coeathal vega Gallente Pain Management Services	Posted - 2011.06.21 18:10:00 - [699] bahahhaha all the rage. Make some tea. Read a book. Walk your dog. RELAX. ---- fofofofo
jack morrigan	Posted - 2011.06.21 18:10:00 - [700] Incarna is coming 22 june 2011

Nikki Blonde Minmatar	Posted - 2011.06.21 18:11:00 - [701] Originally by: Cancel Align NOW Quote: All players logging into Tranquility will now have to create an avatar. You will not be able to proceed into game without one. Stupid CCP. this! subscription -1
Lorin Edehiel Northmoor Inc.	Posted - 2011.06.21 18:11:00 - [702] Originally by: eveline watanabe Originally by: Lorin Edehiel Originally by: Fise I hope there is a closet in my room. I would love to be able to stack all the corps i have in there. actualy you have a good idea, bro :] if i was able to cut off my victim's head and put in on a wall, maybe i could dig that expansion... walking doesnt interest me. i watch my ships from distance. no effects, no sound, no bullsh1.t If I can store em, I want to be able to try to dig the implants out of em... In full 3D glory!!! good, good... finaly, we are getting somewhere :] dig them with a pocket knife. not all of them, ofc. "com'on, you stupid head! drop me that omega, now!" good, post that in ideas forum. who knows... :]
Kiekeboe Skir	Posted - 2011.06.21 18:12:00 - [703] hi there people any one waiting till servers come back again?
caltecia Caldari the recon inc KRYSIS.	Posted - 2011.06.21 18:12:00 - [704] Originally by: jack morrigan Incarna is coming 22 june 2011 LAWL!
Chief Tylon Caldari The Filthy Few Pendulum of Doom	Posted - 2011.06.21 18:12:00 - [705] Edited by: Chief Tylon on 21/06/2011 18:13:33 Linkage Originally by: Captain Zone When will the new client be available for download? I patched mine through that page. Just waiting for the server now...
Lorin Edehiel Northmoor Inc.	Posted - 2011.06.21 18:14:00 - [706] Originally by: Kiekeboe Skir hi there people any one waiting till servers come back again? server is down? o.0
Olio Grey	Posted - 2011.06.21 18:14:00 - [707] Originally by: DrBlue Quote: It is now only possible for one jump bridge to be online in a system at any given time. Whywhywhywhyyyyyy?! Btw I've downloaded and implemented the 267203-271273 patch, but the patch file was only 742mb. Is this information wrong? evepremiumpatch267203-271273_m.exe 741mb I did a backup, installed the patch. New loadup screen with the new Mauler shooting away, showing new gun animations. Shows 55 online, server not accepting connections. So can;t connect even if you did patch it. Might as well just wait for the offical just in case.
Consortium Agent	Posted - 2011.06.21 18:14:00 - [708] Originally by: Drizzd Edited by: Drizzd on 21/06/2011 15:49:08 latest patch and its working (windows) CrazyConflict: here's link to the official patch - dont download with IE 32 bit ... Patch will usually expand eve folder by some (50) mbytes ... downloading whole client is about 5 gbytes . as ccp has announced that they had to split it into 3 files because of 4 gbyte border for archive files Quoting for convenience.
Reasoned1 Gallente The Rising Stars Academy	Posted - 2011.06.21 18:14:00 - [709] I can`t go outside because I would then turn to ash. ************************************************************* The freedom of religion should exist in respect to anothers freedom from it.
Oisin Sandovar	Posted - 2011.06.21 18:15:00 - [710] Originally by: Costigan Borgia Can anyone tell me if I have to download the EVE client again to get incarna or will it auto patch during game log in?? You won't need to download the Eve client again. Once TQ is back up and you launch your Eve client, it will prompt you to download the patch and then install it.

Hykke Free Imperial Vikings	Posted - 2011.06.21 18:15:00 - [711] Originally by: Dako Semi Originally by: Hykke It's very nice that CCP creates this "official release thread". Every release has one... What I don't understand is why CCP doesn't post updates more regularly in this thread. I just spent half an hour reading backwards trying to find the latest update from CCP... Didn't see it http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1532385 Thanks, don't know why I didn't think to check "General discussion" in the forums ... Wait why isn't that information put at the top of this thread instead? This is the thread that is linked to from the EVE client when I start it up, the other thread is harder to find.
Chocolate Raine	Posted - 2011.06.21 18:15:00 - [712] Is the patch available yet? (Sorry, wanted to commune with the moronic, illiterate ******s who have been asking this repeatedly.)
Mr Neutral	Posted - 2011.06.21 18:15:00 - [713] I'm neutral on this whole issue. Least I finally get myself a cabin to relax after a hard day stealing ore though.
Random27	Posted - 2011.06.21 18:15:00 - [714] Originally by: jack morrigan Incarna is coming 22 june 2011 Congratulations. You win the intertubes!
Astenion Gallente Spiritus Draconis	Posted - 2011.06.21 18:15:00 - [715] Originally by: coeathal vega bahahhaha all the rage. Make some tea. Read a book. Walk your dog. RELAX. Like
Minami Shimada	Posted - 2011.06.21 18:15:00 - [716] Dear CCP. If you plan to release patches bigger than 50mb during downtimes, please, PLEASE, PlEaSe, p1345E, let us download them >DURING< the downtime not >AFTER< them. I am aware of, that during downtime/patching the update servers are not busy in ANY way, so just let us Pre-PATCH so we wont generate ****load of lag while downloading 800mb patch after TQ goes online. It is much easier on servers ;P + these people with very very very squishy internet will be much more prepared for server startup coz, after all they need a lot more time to download 800mb ;P Thanks ;P
Sheila Shenrose	Posted - 2011.06.21 18:16:00 - [717] for the tl;dr - issues of this thread, a short summary: Links to the current patches (for those who can't wait for auto-patch): http://content.eveonline.com/evepremiumpatch267203-271273_m.exe (windows) http://content.eveonline.com/mac/evepremiumpatch267203-271273-mac.tgz (mac) Keep in mind, there will be another patch for this patch. I don't know the Version number, otherwise i would have written it down here as well.Also there seem to be some issues with those "unreleased" patches. So patching on your own risk. News page with information about when the services will be online again: http://www.eveonline.com/news.asp CCP Information about whats been done so far to get Incarna ready: http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1532385 Contents of this thread: Positive and negative feelings about this patch Hardware related issues (ati vs nvidia) the regular trashtalk ;)
Herbalistick	Posted - 2011.06.21 18:16:00 - [718] Gwanage
Lacen Wolk Deadly Influence	Posted - 2011.06.21 18:16:00 - [719] Originally by: coeathal vega bahahhaha all the rage. Make some tea. Read a book. Walk your dog. RELAX. this!
Even So	Posted - 2011.06.21 18:17:00 - [720] Originally by: Nikki Blonde Originally by: Cancel Align NOW Quote: All players logging into Tranquility will now have to create an avatar. You will not be able to proceed into game without one. Stupid CCP. this! subscription -1 And again, I ask why? Take 15 sec and use the random button

Random27	Posted - 2011.06.21 18:17:00 - [721] Originally by: Captain Zone When will the new client be available for download? Patch nuber is 271273, Google is your friend...
Bibosikus Gallente Universal Moose Federation	Posted - 2011.06.21 18:18:00 - [722] I want to be one of the 40
Oisin Sandovar	Posted - 2011.06.21 18:18:00 - [723] Originally by: Chocolate Raine Is the patch available yet? (Sorry, wanted to commune with the moronic, illiterate ******s who have been asking this repeatedly.) Not yet. Come back tomorrow.
Aaron Kyoto Minmatar	Posted - 2011.06.21 18:18:00 - [724] I won my ATI Radeon HD 5770 in a contest so I honestly don't give a **** if I don't get a few pretty features. Saves me alot of money I don't have and gives me plenty fun :) Good work CCP!
kosmetica	Posted - 2011.06.21 18:19:00 - [725] cake now? cake now? rinse/repeat
AlJibbr Khan	Posted - 2011.06.21 18:19:00 - [726] Edited by: AlJibbr Khan on 21/06/2011 18:22:02 Originally by: Brutus Killii At least they apply it properly, i'd rather they overshot deadlines and did it well, than do what blizzard do with world of warcraft and rush it, and screw it up nearly every time so have to constantly apply fixes to remove the millions of bugs and glitches. try focusing on what they do well instead of slagging off all the shortfallings, nothings perfect. try focusing on what they do well? you mean like, ignoring broken F.O.F missiles for the last few years so we can walk around into stations and go dance on bar tables? yeah, i know, they say there won't be a dance command.... or ignoring how their own game works? "discrete 1 second ticks, where all the commands are collected, then, at the start of the next second cycle, all collected commands applied. and, with our game working in this manner, the jump gate bug won't be that big of an issue, because not everyone will be trying to jump at the same time, oh wait, what was that i said at the beginning of this sentence, about all collected commands applied at once? meh no worries!" sorry, bro, but i have never seen ccp fix one thing without breaking a dozen more. and now for my rant about dust 514: you know what one of the biggest good points about it is? it can be used to get ccp lots of extra financing because they can tell they bank, "hey, we got all these suckers err i mean loyal customers who are going to buy this game regardless of whether it takes of in the console gaming community or not because we got it so tied into the game they'll lose if they don't" and as for captains quarters: 4 accounts on tq, video optimized for performance, = 35 fps. 2 toons tq, 1 toon sisi in quarters, = 7 fps. on ALL clients. one wonders, did project gridlock have to be lynched before this could move forward? one wonders what the lag in jita will be like, i think i will log all 4 accounts into jita as soon as i can!! CCP used to make a big deal about "a modern state of the art game that can be played even on an older system with dial-up connections", as well as "there will never be twitch-based (joystick) movement in EVE because that would give players with a bigger budget a hardware advantage". what happened? did hjelmarr inhereit stock in nvidia? rant's done. i'm just frustrated because i'm down to less that 48 hours left til account expires and i'm not making isk. but seriously, ccp, sometimes the only reason your older players stick around is the same reason we're still married: a divorce isn't quite worth it.... YET!!! and no, when i do decide to quit, i'm not going to biomass my account. i'll just go inactive for a few months hoping ccp will finally figure out that a "player driven economy" is driven by the players fromn the ground up. NOT driven by feeding empire while you starve nullsec. remind me again why nullsec was invented in the first place, more risk and reward than empire? stick's still there, but where'd the carrot go?
Rockin RicciBobbi	Posted - 2011.06.21 18:19:00 - [727] Edited by: Rockin RicciBobbi on 21/06/2011 18:22:23 DT extended. Whodathunkit. New shinies, old bugs. So, I downloaded the new patch and installed it. Opening splash image is a "end of the hallway" shot of some pilot admiring their Rifter. Looks like a lot of thought and effort went into picking just the right pic, and then someone changed their mind at the last second and they went with that one. Incarna logon screen is somewhat interesting. The new Maller model flies right up to the camera, gets so close you can see the shiny new turrets. And shoots shinier new lazors at something off screen. Pretty exciting stuff so far. says it all for Incarna, already.
Nazeris	Posted - 2011.06.21 18:19:00 - [728] "Any intelligent fool can make things bigger and more complex... It takes a touch of genius - and a lot of courage to move in the opposite direction". Albert Einstein. "Walking in stations does not excite me but what it can bring in the future does" Nazeris Thanks for the patch CCP i know its going to rock like all the rest
Brek'Diel Prophet	Posted - 2011.06.21 18:20:00 - [729] Edited by: Brek''Diel Prophet on 21/06/2011 18:20:21 I would love to have a corpse closet. most epic idea ever. forget a knife for removal, take it to a room in the back with a medical table and a cart with surgery tools. give it a Fallout3 workbench look though.
Smight Adon	Posted - 2011.06.21 18:21:00 - [730] OMFG! i effing hate ppl who complain about DT, but even more i hate ppl who complain about ppl who complain about DT, but even more i hate ppl who complain about ppl who complain about ppl who complain about DT, so im just gonna shoot myself in the effing head. ty for ending my effing life ccp. i appreciate it.

DrBlue The Grimreapers. Destiny Corrupted.	Posted - 2011.06.21 18:21:00 - [731] Edited by: DrBlue on 21/06/2011 18:24:21 Edited by: DrBlue on 21/06/2011 18:23:29 Quote: It is now only possible for one jump bridge to be online in a system at any given time. Whywhywhywhyyyyyy?! Btw I've downloaded and implemented the 267203-271273 patch, but the patch file was only 742mb. Is this information wrong? Furthermore, I see people asking for links instead of using their own heads, so I'll do the work for you : Windows 267203-271273 Patch Macintrash 267203-271273 Patch For anyone that thinks I'm bluffing : screenshot ________________________________________________ "Fix the problem, not the blame."
Astrid F'arnsworth	Posted - 2011.06.21 18:21:00 - [732] EVE expansion "Sims in Space" will be avaible seems 21 June some year in near feature .... maybee 2012 ... all server hardware must be replaced because multi-hradware issues in slowdown .... Incarna = one more wasted expansion in new face-sims-age of MMO...
Herbalistick	Posted - 2011.06.21 18:22:00 - [733] Skinup fo baby Jesus
Gregor Raspiche	Posted - 2011.06.21 18:22:00 - [734] Everyone patting CCP on the back can just save the effort...They are adults and dont need you sucking up on to them on the board to keep at it, the revenue from subscriptions will keep them going. There is absolutely nothing wrong with a consumer expecting a business to meet their projected time lines. If i'm paying you (be it a subscription or wage) and you tell me you will do something by a certain time you damn well better do it, and if for some reason you cannot I at least have a right to know why it is late, what is wrong, and when you expect to be finished.
LeFebvre Moasi Gallente	Posted - 2011.06.21 18:22:00 - [735] Patience young Padawan ! CCP is generally late with time estimates, we know this. Probably need to take a page from Scotty's "Book of Engineering" - never give an exact estimate to the Captain - always double or triple the time you will need. Makes you look like a miracle worker. Now, find you a good book, go see the big light in the sky, make food or anything else than sitting and stewing in your impatience. Have a nice day
FeaNoR l	Posted - 2011.06.21 18:22:00 - [736] никто не в курсе сколько еще примерно будет лежать сервер?)
Simanti	Posted - 2011.06.21 18:22:00 - [737] So I log in an hour after the estimated end of the extended DT to find it has been extended, twice, already - who would have guessed that? Seriously guys, after god knows how many years you should be better at this estimating business by now.
Serenetor	Posted - 2011.06.21 18:22:00 - [738] Yiiieeeeaaahhhhhh: òIt is no longer possible to set up a ship to be impervious to scanning while uncloaked. So for the first time in a very, very, very long time there is actually something in a patch / release that is also usefull for low sec pirates \o/ - ohh snap - what's next? - Detailed killemails for pod's so we can see what implants we just helped someone get rid of?
Jason Quixos	Posted - 2011.06.21 18:23:00 - [739] Originally by: Even So Originally by: Nikki Blonde Originally by: Cancel Align NOW Quote: All players logging into Tranquility will now have to create an avatar. You will not be able to proceed into game without one. Stupid CCP. this! subscription -1 And again, I ask why? Take 15 sec and use the random button Some updates made the clothes and hair graphics option make the avatar creation tool not load, and freeze on a black screen. The only (cheap)option is to go to a gaming centre with a kitted out gaming rigg, and EVE to create an avatar, and you will be able to log on from home, and not need to worry about the increased GFX demand. Will make sites for ISK - www.OG-Alliance.com
Oisin Sandovar	Posted - 2011.06.21 18:23:00 - [740] Originally by: Kiekeboe Skir hi there people any one waiting till servers come back again? What? Wait for the server? Are you crazy? I'm logging in now! (Note: I really can't log in because the servers are not accepting player connections.)

Itachi XIII Organized Chaos Inc	Posted - 2011.06.21 18:23:00 - [741] Originally by: Nikki Blonde Originally by: Cancel Align NOW Quote: All players logging into Tranquility will now have to create an avatar. You will not be able to proceed into game without one. Stupid CCP. this! subscription -1 you MAD bro? ____________________________________________ If you need me, I will be in Candy Mountain.
Roland Schlosser THE EXOGEN CONSORTIUM	Posted - 2011.06.21 18:24:00 - [742] As a player who frequently uses the corporation interface, especially the recruiting tab, I can say i love the new layout and functionality. +1 to CCP, please continue this and redo the entire interface, especially the title creation menu!
Slatte Mavros	Posted - 2011.06.21 18:25:00 - [743] So, when's the new Incarna release time?
MonkeyNads	Posted - 2011.06.21 18:25:00 - [744]
01011 101	Posted - 2011.06.21 18:25:00 - [745] Originally by: Serenix Good grief, all of the replies in this thread demanding that the servers come back up right now, moaning that sisi is down, being butthurt that DT has been extended, CAPSLOCK OMG IM SO FRICKIN' ANGRY... Get a life, and go out for the night or something. Are you actually that sad, that you have NOTHING else you can occupy your time with other than playing this game? You're reacting this strongly for a few hours downtime? That's downright pathetic. Go outside. And as for this 'I'm older than you, my opinion is more important' trend - that's practically fascism right there. We all pay subscriptions, you are no more important than anyone else here. Deal with it. That kind of attitude kills off games. Get over yourself, you sound like a bloody war veteran. Its. A. Game. I feel your opinion is very relevant +1
Carmen Estacado Caldari	Posted - 2011.06.21 18:26:00 - [746] I'm wondering why you guys at CCP don't release the patch yet for manual download via http://www.eveonline.com/patches/patches.asp? 750+ MB patch means 3 to 4 hours of time wasted for the download. Consequently I'd much rather do that now and be done with it when you put Tranquility back online than having the whole patching process be needlessly dragged on for even longer than it currently is. Also, wouldn't it be cheaper and less stressful for your own bandwidth to spread the load over a longer time frame?
sYnc Vir Caldari Wolfsbrigade ShadowWolves.net	Posted - 2011.06.21 18:26:00 - [747] Originally by: Itachi XIII Originally by: Nikki Blonde Originally by: Cancel Align NOW Quote: All players logging into Tranquility will now have to create an avatar. You will not be able to proceed into game without one. Stupid CCP. this! subscription -1 you MAD bro? na he just one of the people with crappy comps that cant run the creator. Dont think he has friends with better ones he can visit to login and creator his Image. ... I fly carelessly, without focus and semi afk all the time. ...
Sitting Pretty	Posted - 2011.06.21 18:27:00 - [748] Originally by: John192 Originally by: Drizzd Originally by: Even So Originally by: Varla Blaydes While I do like the whole "my character has a purpose other than a face in the corner of my screen" aspect, a "Do not leave ship" option would be nice when docking, especially if it's for a moment to repair hull and recharge sheild/cap before jumping back out into a mission. Isn't there a setting to disable this function? not yet - and a first look over the various tabs of the options window didnt reveal one .... hope for a later patch fix Disable "load station (something)" cant remember the exact name but that will stop CQ fromloadin upon docking it's "load Station Environment", and i was on sisi day before yesterday and couldn't find it.
Jason Quixos	Posted - 2011.06.21 18:27:00 - [749] Originally by: AlJibbr Khan Edited by: AlJibbr Khan on 21/06/2011 18:22:02 Originally by: Brutus Killii At least they apply it properly, i'd rather they overshot deadlines and did it well, than do what blizzard do with world of warcraft and rush it, and screw it up nearly every time so have to constantly apply fixes to remove the millions of bugs and glitches. try focusing on what they do well instead of slagging off all the shortfallings, nothings perfect. try focusing on what they do well? you mean like, ignoring broken F.O.F missiles for the last few years so we can walk around into stations and go dance on bar tables? yeah, i know, they say there won't be a dance command.... or ignoring how their own game works? "discrete 1 second ticks, where all the commands are collected, then, at the start of the next second cycle, all collected commands applied. and, with our game working in this manner, the jump gate bug won't be that big of an issue, because not everyone will be trying to jump at the same time, oh wait, what was that i said at the beginning of this sentence, about all collected commands applied at once? meh no worries!" sorry, bro, but i have never seen ccp fix one thing without breaking a dozen more. and now for my rant about dust 514: you know what one of the biggest good points about it is? it can be used to get ccp lots of extra financing because they can tell they bank, "hey, we got all these suckers err i mean loyal customers who are going to buy this game regardless of whether it takes of in the console gaming community or not because we got it so tied into the game they'll lose if they don't" and as for captains quarters: 4 accounts on tq, video optimized for performance, = 35 fps. 2 toons tq, 1 toon sisi in quarters, = 7 fps. on ALL clients. one wonders, did project gridlock have to be lynched before this could move forward? one wonders what the lag in jita will be like, i think i will log all 4 accounts into jita as soon as i can!! CCP used to make a big deal about "a modern state of the art game that can be played even on an older system with dial-up connections", as well as "there will never be twitch-based (joystick) movement in EVE because that would give players with a bigger budget a hardware advantage". what happened? did hjelmarr inhereit stock in nvidia? rant's done. i'm just frustrated because i'm down to less that 48 hours left til account expires and i'm not making isk. but seriously, ccp, sometimes the only reason your older players stick around is the same reason we're still married: a divorce isn't quite worth it.... YET!!! and no, when i do decide to quit, i'm not going to biomass my account. i'll just go inactive for a few months hoping ccp will finally figure out that a "player driven economy" is driven by the players fromn the ground up. NOT driven by feeding empire while you starve nullsec. remind me again why nullsec was invented in the first place, more risk and reward than empire? stick's still there, but where'd the carrot go? Like! Enough said! Will make sites for ISK - www.OG-Alliance.com
Gabriel Grimoire Ascendent. Gentlemen's Agreement	Posted - 2011.06.21 18:27:00 - [750] Originally by: Zagdul Originally by: Gabriel Grimoire Originally by: Zagdul ATI = Performance on a Budget Nvidia = new features on latest tech. CCP went with latest tech, dudes who decided with budget cards get left behind. ATI users should be upset they chose an inferior product, not that CCP chose to develop on newer, superior technology. Yet another example of an nVidia fanboy pulling things out of their ass with absolutely nothing to actually back up the statement. If you spent any small amount of time searching the web and reading about the whole "ATI vs. nVidia" battle, you'd know that both companies have made great advances in GPU tech and continue to do so. There is no clear cut "superior" here. The whole reason the battle is so competitive is because both of the companies continue to one-up each other at an alarming rate. Each has has countless "victories" over the other as new tech surfaces on both sides. CCP went with nVidia on this one. That's all. They chose to tailor the game to nVidia hardware. Just like countless other developers/publishers choose to tailor theirs to AMD/ATI. I personally have multiple boxes with nVidia and AMD/ATI tech in them. They both have their strengths and weaknesses. It all depends on the software your trying to run on them at this point. I don't see a clear cut "winner" in this race any time soon. Stop talking out of your anus. I knew someone would bite. EDIT: Serious response: If you did a little research on what's disabled, you'd understand that there are compatibility issues with them and crossfire. ATI's weakeness has always been it's drivers. Yes, they're less expensive and you get more bang for the buck, but they suck at developing drivers to run the latest tech. This is just where Nvidia is superior. I don't care who makes a better chip, if the driver won't run the capabilities of said chip, the chip is worthless. ATI's drivers always have issues. This isn't CCP's fault, this is ATI's. Way to flip flop your original statement. Before, you literally said "newer, superior technology". Now you're saying "superior drivers". Which is pure fanboy bullsht. nVidia drivers are just as *ty as ATI drivers. Both companies make crappy drivers for their tech. Period. I've ran and maintained countless different hardware and software setups with nVidia and AMD/ATI cards, and this continuously has been true. GPU drivers are notoriously unstable across the board, which is why people like Omega continue to create third party drivers for them, regardless of chip set. This has been the case since day one of dedicated GPUs; I remember pulling my hair out over 3dfx's Voodoo drivers not wanting to play nice with Unreal. I've found myself running third-party or beta drivers for my nVidia boxes more often than not. Same goes for ATI rigs too. There is no way I'm buying the crap you're selling. "Compatibility issues with crossfire" = CCP can't or doesn't want to bother how to figure out how to get their software to correctly utilize crossfire. The burden of getting software to utilize hardware is on the software developers, not the hardware manufacturers. I'm a software engineer by trade; if I ran whining to my boss every time I had issues getting my software to play nice with a certain piece of hardware, I'd be out of a job pretty quick. Figuring that ** out is what they pay me for. So, how much is nVidia paying you to jiggle their nuts?

Herbalistick	Posted - 2011.06.21 18:27:00 - [751] More ppl gettin in from work coming here to be angry. Im watching game of thrones then if eve still aint ready i might pop round a m8s house and smash his face in on fightnight.
Lorin Edehiel Northmoor Inc.	Posted - 2011.06.21 18:28:00 - [752] Originally by: coeathal vega bahahhaha all the rage. Make some tea. Read a book. Walk your dog. RELAX. vega? no tak. avatarki poblokowalem wiec nie widze twojej brzydkiej facjaty :] zdrowka o/
Slatte Mavros	Posted - 2011.06.21 18:28:00 - [753] Originally by: MonkeyNads um, LOL, but it'd be nice if i could actually get on tranquility before then :P
cyber man cy	Posted - 2011.06.21 18:30:00 - [754] omg when can i play eve ahhhhhhhhhhhhh "SHAKES FISTS ANGERLY"
Kushente Hashion	Posted - 2011.06.21 18:30:00 - [755] Wow...extended downtime...now I have to wait to update til I get home from work! Damn!
Jaebodiah	Posted - 2011.06.21 18:30:00 - [756] QQ more fools. It's pathetic. This patch will be awesome, like all before it. DT was extended, like all patches before it. You're bored? Youtube. If your computer can't handle it, upgrade. If you can't afford to, stop playing eve so much and get yourself a job.
HoshinoRuri Playboy Enterprises	Posted - 2011.06.21 18:31:00 - [757] Anyone else with the osx client not getting the option to install the new patch, guess i will have to do a clean download and install. One of the craziest pilots you may ever meet
kleine maus	Posted - 2011.06.21 18:31:00 - [758] What a **** patch Ok I can live with useless things like station walking But why making unscannable ships impossible? First you took lvl5 missions out of highsec and i managed to live with it and now again of you want to make lvl5 missions pvp missions why dont send all lvl5 agents to the faction warfare corp?
Captain Zone	Posted - 2011.06.21 18:31:00 - [759] Originally by: Random27 Originally by: Captain Zone When will the new client be available for download? Patch nuber is 271273, Google is your friend... Sorry, mate. I only DL from from the authorised site. lol Was hoping for a DEV response. Oh well. :)
Bibosikus Gallente Universal Moose Federation	Posted - 2011.06.21 18:31:00 - [760] oo.. Maller looks nice and the turrets look Very Shiny... individual laser beams per barrel! And the barrels glowing red hot. then cooling off in 2 seconds in the unforgiving absolute zero of deep space... lovely lovely! Won't mean I'll be gazing at a close-up of all my Amarr boats 24/7, but it definitely looks pretty enough as a taster of things to come (in a year or two sigh)

Olio Grey	Posted - 2011.06.21 18:31:00 - [761] Originally by: Gregor Raspiche All the little kids crying at CCP can just save the effort...They are adults and dont need you crying like little children on the board, the revenue from subscriptions will keep them going. There is absolutely nothing wrong with a business thinking little kids would read there EULA before posting such nonsense. If i'm providing you service (be it a subscription or wage) and I tell you I will do something by a certain time, Then you must also comprehend what ETA means, and what an agreement means, that you agreed too, once again called an EULA. and if for some reason I cannot, I at least reserve the right to NOT tell you why it is late, what is wrong, and when I expect to be finished. Once again if you do not like this deal, contract or agreement, at any time you are of your own free will not obligated to continue paying for this service. There I fixed it for ya.
blitzrage Minmatar Stones Inc.	Posted - 2011.06.21 18:32:00 - [762] Originally by: Khellendrose Originally by: Nell Tu I KNEW I should have queued up skill longer than 7 days.... I lold. Thank god i have mining barge 5 in the run :D Ya I specifically took out the last 24 hours of Minmatar Industrial V and put in both cloaking III and IV since that gave me about a week of training time in preparation for EvE downtime.
Nalvar Nictus Astartes	Posted - 2011.06.21 18:32:00 - [763] Originally by: Gregor Raspiche Everyone patting CCP on the back can just save the effort...They are adults and dont need you sucking up on to them on the board to keep at it, the revenue from subscriptions will keep them going. There is absolutely nothing wrong with a consumer expecting a business to meet their projected time lines. If i'm paying you (be it a subscription or wage) and you tell me you will do something by a certain time you damn well better do it, and if for some reason you cannot I at least have a right to know why it is late, what is wrong, and when you expect to be finished. what about contractors? when do they ever keep deadlines? ;-)
Mrs Intaki	Posted - 2011.06.21 18:32:00 - [764] Originally by: Serenetor Yiiieeeeaaahhhhhh: ... \o/ - ohh snap - what's next? - Detailed killemails for pod's so we can see what implants we just helped someone get rid of? would be funny^^ skillqueue: 15 days check afk.
markie1994	Posted - 2011.06.21 18:32:00 - [765] patch avalible to download early?
Oisin Sandovar	Posted - 2011.06.21 18:33:00 - [766] Originally by: Slatte Mavros So, when's the new Incarna release time? Check out this forum post: http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1532151&page=24#717
eveline watanabe	Posted - 2011.06.21 18:33:00 - [767] Originally by: Lorin Edehiel Originally by: eveline watanabe Originally by: Lorin Edehiel Originally by: Fise I hope there is a closet in my room. I would love to be able to stack all the corps i have in there. actualy you have a good idea, bro :] if i was able to cut off my victim's head and put in on a wall, maybe i could dig that expansion... walking doesnt interest me. i watch my ships from distance. no effects, no sound, no bullsh1.t If I can store em, I want to be able to try to dig the implants out of em... In full 3D glory!!! good, good... finaly, we are getting somewhere :] dig them with a pocket knife. not all of them, ofc. "com'on, you stupid head! drop me that omega, now!" good, post that in ideas forum. who knows... :] Done. Who's with me!!!??? Feel free to post your support in the thread I started in the ideas forum here.
Morgan Katarn	Posted - 2011.06.21 18:33:00 - [768] zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz :P
Slatte Mavros	Posted - 2011.06.21 18:34:00 - [769] so, how far has the patch release been pushed back to? anybody know?
FinaI Destination	Posted - 2011.06.21 18:34:00 - [770] Originally by: Jaebodiah QQ more fools. It's pathetic. This patch will be awesome, like all before it. DT was extended, like all patches before it. You're bored? Youtube. If your computer can't handle it, upgrade. If you can't afford to, stop playing eve so much and get yourself a job. +1

Mr Neutral	Posted - 2011.06.21 18:34:00 - [771] So many angry people here. The purist types who'd only be completely happy studying decimal numbers, played on a typewriter and going on about the 'good old days' and boring everyone else in the process. The angry, angry types - who seemingly can't exist for a millisecond without Eve and will resort to eating their computer if the game doesn't immediately respond. And then crying to their mum that they no longer have a computer (and intense stomach problems). The jovial types, who are probably smoking something dubious and spending the time amusing themselves at the sheer intensity of nerd rage here. Those - who actually have a life, who are just popping onto the forum (using the search function)and then shrugging their shoulders, before nipping off for a quick curry, an episode of Game of thrones, and quite possibly a beer or three. There's probably more... Or those
Captain Macanudo	Posted - 2011.06.21 18:34:00 - [772] Just to spread more venon, or conflict (CCP loves doing this): If they use ATI support instead of NVIDIA, we probably already been playing. Hahahahaa!
Mr Pikey Caldari	Posted - 2011.06.21 18:35:00 - [773] Downtime extended to 21:30
Bibosikus Gallente Universal Moose Federation	Posted - 2011.06.21 18:35:00 - [774] Just been updated to 21:30 http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1532385
Captain Zone	Posted - 2011.06.21 18:35:00 - [775] Good thing I still have almost 5 days left on Weapons Upgrades V, then. lol
cyber man cy	Posted - 2011.06.21 18:35:00 - [776] when does the downtime end in amarican time
AlJibbr Khan	Posted - 2011.06.21 18:35:00 - [777] Originally by: Herbalistick I guess this DT has cut into most ppls free time leaving most **ed. I dont get all this bull** about fanboys? lol. I got myself a new pc Nov last year custom built by pcspecialist.co.uk and yea i went with the Nvidia physX mainly because the specs looked more appealing, its played everything ive thrown at it. Before that i played eve on a tiny netbook! lol with lag near crowded systems but good enough to play through beggining stages ready for new pc. So put my netbook in ur overheated GPU pipes an smoke it! was, could. try it again once the server's back up. i'm ready for breakfast, i'll bring the bacon & eggs and we'll use that poor laptop as a frypan...
Serenetor	Posted - 2011.06.21 18:36:00 - [778] Originally by: kleine maus What a **** patch Ok I can live with useless things like station walking But why making unscannable ships impossible? First you took lvl5 missions out of highsec and i managed to live with it and now again of you want to make lvl5 missions pvp missions why dont send all lvl5 agents to the faction warfare corp? MWHAHAHA - I love the tears, keep em comming Ohh here's a tip: If you play WoW - no matter how you die you will not loose your stuff
Dako Semi	Posted - 2011.06.21 18:36:00 - [779] 18:25 Downtime is now expected to last until 21:30 UTC.
Morgan Katarn	Posted - 2011.06.21 18:36:00 - [780] Lets all go play Forsaken world free on steam :p It was quite fun i played to level 10 then i had it for today :P

CMDR SUPREME	Posted - 2011.06.21 18:36:00 - [781] Originally by: Jaebodiah QQ more fools. It's pathetic. This patch will be awesome, like all before it. DT was extended, like all patches before it. You're bored? Youtube. If your computer can't handle it, upgrade. If you can't afford to, stop playing eve so much and get yourself a job. LOL
Yugo Blackmoore	Posted - 2011.06.21 18:37:00 - [782] So no oficial time to deploy? How about releasing the patch so we dont have to wait 2 more hours after server comes up?
cyber man cy	Posted - 2011.06.21 18:38:00 - [783] when does the downtime end in usa
Woodman2	Posted - 2011.06.21 18:38:00 - [784] New time is 21:00 Eve time. http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1532385
Vetis Cabal	Posted - 2011.06.21 18:39:00 - [785] Originally by: Jaebodiah QQ more fools. It's pathetic. This patch will be awesome, like all before it. DT was extended, like all patches before it. You're bored? Youtube. If your computer can't handle it, upgrade. If you can't afford to, stop playing eve so much and get yourself a job. This
Marquis D'Rue	Posted - 2011.06.21 18:39:00 - [786] 18:25 Downtime is now expected to last until 21:30 UTC see at http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1532385
koodiac	Posted - 2011.06.21 18:40:00 - [787] EVE Online: Incarna 1.0 is currently being deployed. The database updates are taking longer than expected, and therefore the downtime has been extended. We expect to open Tranquility to the players at 21:30 UTC. Thank you for your understanding.
Oisin Sandovar	Posted - 2011.06.21 18:41:00 - [788] Originally by: Yugo Blackmoore So no oficial time to deploy? How about releasing the patch so we dont have to wait 2 more hours after server comes up? New time is 21:30 Incarna Deployment Info Post
Conrad Peet	Posted - 2011.06.21 18:41:00 - [789] Edited by: Conrad Peet on 21/06/2011 18:41:43 Edited by: Conrad Peet on 21/06/2011 18:41:24 Originally by: cyber man cy when does the downtime end in usa Is it really that hard to google? http://lmgtfy.com/?q=utc+to+est
Random27	Posted - 2011.06.21 18:41:00 - [790] Originally by: Captain Zone Originally by: Random27 Originally by: Captain Zone When will the new client be available for download? Patch nuber is 271273, Google is your friend... Sorry, mate. I only DL from from the authorised site. lol Was hoping for a DEV response. Oh well. :) Ho-hum http://cdn1.eveonline.com/evepremiumpatch267203-271273_m.exe That is the authorised patch; note the domain eveonline.com there...

Morgan Katarn	Posted - 2011.06.21 18:41:00 - [791] I recon they get Tranq up at 22.00 utc then you have like 2 hours downloading hte patch :p for those that havent done that yet then you prolly end up in a que for a while :p so around 02.00 utc i think we can all play but ofc its gonna lag lag like never has before :P
crazygirly Caldari Shadows Of The Federation	Posted - 2011.06.21 18:44:00 - [792] Are we there yet?
Dako Semi	Posted - 2011.06.21 18:44:00 - [793] this is very importand to all players with no patience. read the 2end post in this tread http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1532385 do it and safe yourself from hassle o/ Dako
Oisin Sandovar	Posted - 2011.06.21 18:44:00 - [794] Originally by: Random27 Originally by: Captain Zone Originally by: Random27 Originally by: Captain Zone When will the new client be available for download? Patch nuber is 271273, Google is your friend... Sorry, mate. I only DL from from the authorised site. lol Was hoping for a DEV response. Oh well. :) Ho-hum http://cdn1.eveonline.com/evepremiumpatch267203-271273_m.exe That is the authorised patch; note the domain eveonline.com there... CCP Forum Post on updating your Eve client
IGNATIUS HOOD	Posted - 2011.06.21 18:46:00 - [795] Big thanks to the Patch linky posters... Its nice being able to download da patch at work in about 10 minutes as opposed to 2 hours at home... Also I would add that, being in a semi technical field and dealing with Applications all the time, no upgrade, never ever ever ever goes exactly according to plan... This is why the Space shuttle still uses 486 Processors and software written 30 years ago for its nav computers... Man is fallible, so as a result are the works of man. Life is good, we're still breathing right?
FlinchingNinja Kishunuba	Posted - 2011.06.21 18:46:00 - [796] Originally by: Mr Neutral So many angry people here. The purist types who'd only be completely happy studying decimal numbers, played on a typewriter and going on about the 'good old days' and boring everyone else in the process. The angry, angry types - who seemingly can't exist for a millisecond without Eve and will resort to eating their computer if the game doesn't immediately respond. And then crying to their mum that they no longer have a computer (and intense stomach problems). The jovial types, who are probably smoking something dubious and spending the time amusing themselves at the sheer intensity of nerd rage here. Those - who actually have a life, who are just popping onto the forum (using the search function)and then shrugging their shoulders, before nipping off for a quick curry, an episode of Game of thrones, and quite possibly a beer or three. There's probably more... Or those Please add the people who drink red wine and know who Thomas Hobbes is.... I like having a laugh about how people think an online player controlled market is easy to control 0_o Ok now I am distracted by shiney title screen..... Bite my shiney metal thruster
Niamh Wong Amarr EVE University Ivy League	Posted - 2011.06.21 18:47:00 - [797] There's a good chance you'll be fine with the currently available patch BUT you don't get to nerdrage if it doesn't work after all because (like me) you were impatient and wanted to see the shiny new Maller do its thing on the login screen. ;¼)
Iaphar Shaddai	Posted - 2011.06.21 18:48:00 - [798] Originally by: Minsc Originally by: Soden Rah Originally by: Vincent Athena To all those with graphics card issues with CQ: Try turning "interior effects" to low and see if that helps. If its not enough, then hit that "do not load" button. I have been testing on ALL settings... I have a core 2 duo intel processor and Giggabyte GTX 460.... and on everything low or off I still overheat my GPU with my CPU running at 80~90% on both cores, just to stand still. my ave FPS goes from 20 to 30 by changing the settings but overheating happens either way. now if I went into CQ when I wanted to and didn't need my in space UI, then it might be ok... but as it happens every time we dock, and there is no content, and the new UI is fail... I am just not going to load it. CCP should provide separate settings for in space, and in Incarna... and they should find out what is nukeing my CPU/GPU... and they should put the damn hanger back... Till then I wont be using CQ on TQ. I will never be using the 'Noble (read money-grabbing) store' so, that is a total waste of time... And sad cos the 'free' outfits are pretty bad... I don't honestly know what's wrong with your system but I'm running a core2duo 3ghz and a gtx285 and I get 60 fps in CQ and my gpu runs at normal running temperature. Which drivers are you running? What brand of card? Have you messed with any fan control settings? It doesn't make sense for your card, which should be more powerfull than mine to give lower performance. Could be the system chassis thats causing the issues, i am running a 8800GTX OC'd card, in my old case with very bad cooling my GPU Was idling at around 80c, i rehoused my system into a Coolermaster HAF922 case and now my GPU under the load of 6 eve clients and various other bits is around 56c also my frame rate is about 20FPS higher now cause my card aint to concerned about its welfare :P with those specs the heat is gonna be the issue as the 460 kicks out much more heat than the 8800, also might want to try a custom cooling solution on the card itself, that could help if a chassis change is not an option, however if it is i would strongly recommend any Coolermaster HAF case.
HaKyung	Posted - 2011.06.21 18:50:00 - [799] Originally by: Dako Semi this is very importand to all players with no patience. read the 2end post in this tread http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1532385 do it and safe yourself from hassle o/ Dako I think what's more important for players is the fact that they pay to play and yet have to suffer multiple outages and seemingly never-ending extended downtime (yes, I know, a watched kettle never boils). Just once though I'd like to see a patch deployed within the allotted time. I mean come on, surely CCP are doing dry runs on SIT/UAT servers before going live, they surely have an actual clue as to how long it takes? Seems to me we get less actual game time per month whilst paying the same amount.
KHAELAN Caldari Rules of Acquisition	Posted - 2011.06.21 18:51:00 - [800] 4:30 EST. Hrmm, guess I'll go get another beer...

DIGI Byte Gallente	Posted - 2011.06.21 18:51:00 - [801] I Wish, with all these Downtime for patching, I wish they could have a clock in the forums displaying the time, how would i know what/when 21:30 UTC? I want to know what time it is in EVE!!! I wan to know when the server is LIVE so I can match it with my time!
blueeyesDK	Posted - 2011.06.21 18:53:00 - [802] it¦s 2,5 hours from now
The Childrens	Posted - 2011.06.21 18:54:00 - [803] Originally by: Izzy Alistair Originally by: Soden Rah Well I won't be running CQ on TQ anyway, overheats my system, and forces me to shut down everything not eve, and only stay docked for a limited period of time... all for a loss of functionality, and immersion. So until I can have the old hanger back, CQ will stay disabled... If the option to disable it disappears... then leaving the game entirely becomes highly likely. Which would be sad... BTW my bring back the hanger petition just hit page 7... I agree, I think Incarna is cool and all, but my computer just can't handle it, which is sad. I also can't afford a new computer, just to ward off any flamers that want to put scathing replies about me "whining". New maller hull looks cool though, can't wait for the turret effects too. so you can turn off the CQ and turrets then? does that mean i'll be able to run eve a little longer while i shop for a new laptop? that'd be cool
Dako Semi	Posted - 2011.06.21 18:54:00 - [804] Originally by: HaKyung Originally by: Dako Semi this is very importand to all players with no patience. read the 2end post in this tread http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1532385 do it and safe yourself from hassle o/ Dako I think what's more important for players is the fact that they pay to play and yet have to suffer multiple outages and seemingly never-ending extended downtime (yes, I know, a watched kettle never boils). Just once though I'd like to see a patch deployed within the allotted time. I mean come on, surely CCP are doing dry runs on SIT/UAT servers before going live, they surely have an actual clue as to how long it takes? Seems to me we get less actual game time per month whilst paying the same amount. Whats up m8. u mad bro? it's just info i given. not starting an agument with people like you. do that argument with CCP or go play WoW or something :) o/
Tagprice	Posted - 2011.06.21 18:54:00 - [805] Originally by: DIGI Byte I Wish, with all these Downtime for patching, I wish they could have a clock in the forums displaying the time, how would i know what/when 21:30 UTC? I want to know what time it is in EVE!!! I wan to know when the server is LIVE so I can match it with my time! Check the time on your post !
Gabriel Grimoire Ascendent. Gentlemen's Agreement	Posted - 2011.06.21 18:54:00 - [806] Originally by: HaKyung I think what's more important for players is the fact that they pay to play and yet have to suffer multiple outages and seemingly never-ending extended downtime (yes, I know, a watched kettle never boils). Just once though I'd like to see a patch deployed within the allotted time. I mean come on, surely CCP are doing dry runs on SIT/UAT servers before going live, they surely have an actual clue as to how long it takes? Seems to me we get less actual game time per month whilst paying the same amount. They could just overestimate how long it'll take them to deploy instead of underestimating and then extending multiple times. Would make them look a bit less incompetent and calm some of the super impatient kiddies down too.
Hanz Plaude	Posted - 2011.06.21 18:55:00 - [807] Originally by: cyber man cy when does the downtime end in amarican time wow.
Sitting Pretty	Posted - 2011.06.21 18:55:00 - [808] Originally by: DIGI Byte I Wish, with all these Downtime for patching, I wish they could have a clock in the forums displaying the time, how would i know what/when 21:30 UTC? I want to know what time it is in EVE!!! I wan to know when the server is LIVE so I can match it with my time! evemon. bottom left corner of it's window shows current EVE time. else, there are a dozen widget clocks on the market (incl freeware ones) that will show you 2 clocks, one with local time and one with EVE time ( or any other 2 time zones you want). try cnet.com, never had any trouble there.
Sister Sandiego	Posted - 2011.06.21 18:56:00 - [809] Originally by: HaKyung I think what's more important for players is the fact that they pay to play and yet have to suffer multiple outages and seemingly never-ending extended downtime (yes, I know, a watched kettle never boils). Just once though I'd like to see a patch deployed within the allotted time. I mean come on, surely CCP are doing dry runs on SIT/UAT servers before going live, they surely have an actual clue as to how long it takes? Seems to me we get less actual game time per month whilst paying the same amount. Eh, stop complaining. there are technical thigns at play that go wrong, the bigger the patch, the more likely its DT will be trippled. Besides, everyone knows its not patch release, its patch week. you don't lose that much time playing eve, look at the PSN, and imagine how WoW players feel when they lost their game for a whole week, child rage. lol. anyway, stop your pointless whining, in the last 2 months the only real DT I've suffered is incarna and I planned that it would take at least 2 days to get working.
Aggressive Reacharound	Posted - 2011.06.21 18:56:00 - [810] Originally by: KHAELAN 4:30 EST. Hrmm, guess I'll go get another beer... i thinks it's actually 5:30 EST, i think

HaKyung	Posted - 2011.06.21 18:56:00 - [811] Originally by: DIGI Byte I Wish, with all these Downtime for patching, I wish they could have a clock in the forums displaying the time, how would i know what/when 21:30 UTC? I want to know what time it is in EVE!!! I wan to know when the server is LIVE so I can match it with my time! http://www.timezoneconverter.com/cgi-bin/tzc.tzc GMT time is displayed, that's the same as EVE time
Unforgiven Arnoux	Posted - 2011.06.21 18:56:00 - [812] Originally by: DIGI Byte I Wish, with all these Downtime for patching, I wish they could have a clock in the forums displaying the time, how would i know what/when 21:30 UTC? I want to know what time it is in EVE!!! I wan to know when the server is LIVE so I can match it with my time! look above your post...... Paying attention helps QQers go watch The Clear Skies I-III that will keep your entertained for a good 3hours or more.
Sheila Shenrose	Posted - 2011.06.21 18:57:00 - [813] Originally by: DIGI Byte I Wish, with all these Downtime for patching, I wish they could have a clock in the forums displaying the time, how would i know what/when 21:30 UTC? I want to know what time it is in EVE!!! I wan to know when the server is LIVE so I can match it with my time! no offense, but if you have too much time and are bored, read this thread. answers to this kind of statement has been given several times: eve times is always the utc time, which is displayed ingame in the lower left corner. so you should be aware of the time difference to the place you are living. new forums have the feature of embedding the eve time clock. and to know, when the server is back up, just follow this forum, read the news, or spam the client.
Conrad Peet	Posted - 2011.06.21 18:57:00 - [814] Originally by: DIGI Byte I Wish, with all these Downtime for patching, I wish they could have a clock in the forums displaying the time, how would i know what/when 21:30 UTC? I want to know what time it is in EVE!!! I wan to know when the server is LIVE so I can match it with my time! again, how ****ing hard is it for you idiots to google? http://lmgtfy.com/?q=UTC+time
Random27	Posted - 2011.06.21 18:57:00 - [815] Originally by: Oisin Sandovar Originally by: Random27 Originally by: Captain Zone (snip snip) Sorry, mate. I only DL from from the authorised site. lol Was hoping for a DEV response. Oh well. :) Ho-hum http://cdn1.eveonline.com/evepremiumpatch267203-271273_m.exe That is the authorised patch; note the domain eveonline.com there... CCP Forum Post on updating your Eve client Those are the instructions for updating to the current version (267203) of Incursion. The patch is from 267203 to 271273. CCP generally don't advertise the URL until after downtime has ended, presumably in case they need to roll back, or change the patch at the very last minute. In other words, they will continue to advertise the old version as the current. With previous updates, it has been safe to download the patch in advance of being allowed back in, just make sure you get it from the official EVE server. If in doubt, feel free to play it safe and wait, but I can assure you that this is the genuine patch.
Drizzd	Posted - 2011.06.21 18:58:00 - [816] Originally by: Gabriel Grimoire Originally by: HaKyung I think what's more important for players is the fact that they pay to play and yet have to suffer multiple outages and seemingly never-ending extended downtime (yes, I know, a watched kettle never boils). Just once though I'd like to see a patch deployed within the allotted time. I mean come on, surely CCP are doing dry runs on SIT/UAT servers before going live, they surely have an actual clue as to how long it takes? Seems to me we get less actual game time per month whilst paying the same amount. They could just overestimate how long it'll take them to deploy instead of underestimating and then extending multiple times. Would make them look a bit less incompetent and calm some of the super impatient kiddies down too. You are wrong on that mate ... Just imagine CCP announces Patch Downtime of 4 Days .. the forum would EXPLODE of threads whining , nagging, calling CCP incompetent and slowasses .... no . you Testrun the deployment - it runs in 12 hours - so you hope to make it in 12 hours on the real server too - but since singularity is just 1 server and the real servers are many .. things tend to get complicated ... like updating the shared database in this case
Commandante Caldari Dark-Rising	Posted - 2011.06.21 18:58:00 - [817] Edited by: Commandante Caldari on 21/06/2011 19:00:45 Was hoping for an epic crabby smartass- and knowingitallbetter-alphanerds thread and stayed very satisfied. I am on vacation in Austria, had breakfast at 07:00 UTC, had a great sunny day in the mountains, finished a relaxing 1 hour sauna session, enjoyed some music on my iPod, dinner was awesome, played some table games with my kids, arrived at the hotel room... EVE still offline... I don't care... will not wine but will take some whine instead... checking later... SEX... same procedure as every patch... will continue to enjoy EVE what I used to do since 2006. CCP is doing great. Business as usual. Changes? Adapting since 2006(TM). Leaving this thread in hope that all crabby smartass- and knowingitallbetter-alphanerds will emoragewinep*ssedquit EVE soon(immediately).
Anise Eater	Posted - 2011.06.21 18:58:00 - [818] So is a single C2050 going to be enough? Or should I order another and a 1200 watt power supply now?
DIGI Byte Gallente	Posted - 2011.06.21 18:59:00 - [819] Originally by: Sitting Pretty Originally by: DIGI Byte I Wish, with all these Downtime for patching, I wish they could have a clock in the forums displaying the time, how would i know what/when 21:30 UTC? I want to know what time it is in EVE!!! I wan to know when the server is LIVE so I can match it with my time! evemon. bottom left corner of it's window shows current EVE time. else, there are a dozen widget clocks on the market (incl freeware ones) that will show you 2 clocks, one with local time and one with EVE time ( or any other 2 time zones you want). try cnet.com, never had any trouble there. The forums need a EVE clock :(
Conrad Peet	Posted - 2011.06.21 19:00:00 - [820] Originally by: HaKyung Originally by: Dako Semi this is very importand to all players with no patience. read the 2end post in this tread http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1532385 do it and safe yourself from hassle o/ Dako I think what's more important for players is the fact that they pay to play and yet have to suffer multiple outages and seemingly never-ending extended downtime (yes, I know, a watched kettle never boils). Just once though I'd like to see a patch deployed within the allotted time. I mean come on, surely CCP are doing dry runs on SIT/UAT servers before going live, they surely have an actual clue as to how long it takes? Seems to me we get less actual game time per month whilst paying the same amount. $15 a month is 50 cents a day. even if you run two clients you're losing out on a dollar. if you seriously consider that a big deal considering the updates themselves are free, leave the game and go find a better job.

RustyMunk	Posted - 2011.06.21 19:00:00 - [821] Originally by: Aggressive Reacharound Originally by: KHAELAN 4:30 EST. Hrmm, guess I'll go get another beer... i thinks it's actually 5:30 EST, i think he need lots more beers
Opt1mu5Pr1m3 Gallente 5ER3NITY INC War and Pestilence	Posted - 2011.06.21 19:01:00 - [822] Forums need a clock eh?? How about the one above your post and every post
Nilt	Posted - 2011.06.21 19:01:00 - [823] Originally by: Lee Anderson hmm i see your probs trolling care to show us the speed you got? click here and then copy and past reply with your speed, i think your lieing Here's mine. --> http://www.speedtest.net/result/1351508597.png Mine only took 6 or 7 minutes. It's good have decent internet.
Abelard Nightbringer New Foundation	Posted - 2011.06.21 19:01:00 - [824] Am i seriously the only one who can comprehend how to log in every hour to check if theres a patch to download, and if theres not, just go about my day? And the people ranting in here with no knowledge of how computers, networks, or video game design works is quite LoL.
Drizzd	Posted - 2011.06.21 19:01:00 - [825] Originally by: DIGI Byte Originally by: Sitting Pretty Originally by: DIGI Byte I Wish, with all these Downtime for patching, I wish they could have a clock in the forums displaying the time, how would i know what/when 21:30 UTC? I want to know what time it is in EVE!!! I wan to know when the server is LIVE so I can match it with my time! evemon. bottom left corner of it's window shows current EVE time. else, there are a dozen widget clocks on the market (incl freeware ones) that will show you 2 clocks, one with local time and one with EVE time ( or any other 2 time zones you want). try cnet.com, never had any trouble there. The forums need a EVE clock :( they have ... just make a fresh post and you see the EVE-Time when you created it
Rigamrts	Posted - 2011.06.21 19:02:00 - [826] Originally by: RustyMunk Originally by: Aggressive Reacharound Originally by: KHAELAN 4:30 EST. Hrmm, guess I'll go get another beer... i thinks it's actually 5:30 EST, i think he need lots more beers better watch out for the jump port sobriety patrols.
Tungsten Sphincter	Posted - 2011.06.21 19:02:00 - [827] Originally by: cyber man cy when does the downtime end in usa Here is an idea, Load this thread.... go to last page... Look at the last post... Check the "Posted" time.. (which is time stamped UTC)... do the math... Might look something like this... Downtime is now expected to last until 21:30 UTC Most Current post on the Q.Q Forums 18:38 UTC 21:30 - 18:38 = 2hours 52minutes
Frederick Yassavi	Posted - 2011.06.21 19:02:00 - [828] Originally by: HaKyung I think what's more important for players is the fact that they pay to play and yet have to suffer multiple outages and seemingly never-ending extended downtime (yes, I know, a watched kettle never boils). Just once though I'd like to see a patch deployed within the allotted time. I mean come on, surely CCP are doing dry runs on SIT/UAT servers before going live, they surely have an actual clue as to how long it takes? Seems to me we get less actual game time per month whilst paying the same amount. By my calculations, CCP owes you 27 cents for this free content update.
HaKyung	Posted - 2011.06.21 19:03:00 - [829] Originally by: Sister Sandiego Originally by: HaKyung I think what's more important for players is the fact that they pay to play and yet have to suffer multiple outages and seemingly never-ending extended downtime (yes, I know, a watched kettle never boils). Just once though I'd like to see a patch deployed within the allotted time. I mean come on, surely CCP are doing dry runs on SIT/UAT servers before going live, they surely have an actual clue as to how long it takes? Seems to me we get less actual game time per month whilst paying the same amount. Eh, stop complaining. there are technical thigns at play that go wrong, the bigger the patch, the more likely its DT will be trippled. Besides, everyone knows its not patch release, its patch week. you don't lose that much time playing eve, look at the PSN, and imagine how WoW players feel when they lost their game for a whole week, child rage. lol. anyway, stop your pointless whining, in the last 2 months the only real DT I've suffered is incarna and I planned that it would take at least 2 days to get working. Eh, this is why you have dress rehearsals, to root out any problems so you can be prepared for them. Currently we're about 8 hours down which, for those of us who work in the same timezone as EVE runs essentially means a full day after you take sleep and working hours into account. And there's been plenty of outages this month. Granted, they usually come back up fairly quick after an emergency reboot or w/e but still, cutting into already short window of playing time. I'd love to see CCP do the next major patch during US time, THEN you'd seem some whining!
charlie Anstian	Posted - 2011.06.21 19:03:00 - [830] think it is beer time for me 2....

Opt1mu5Pr1m3 Gallente 5ER3NITY INC War and Pestilence	Posted - 2011.06.21 19:03:00 - [831] Originally by: Conrad Peet Originally by: HaKyung Originally by: Dako Semi this is very importand to all players with no patience. read the 2end post in this tread http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1532385 do it and safe yourself from hassle o/ Dako I think what's more important for players is the fact that they pay to play and yet have to suffer multiple outages and seemingly never-ending extended downtime (yes, I know, a watched kettle never boils). Just once though I'd like to see a patch deployed within the allotted time. I mean come on, surely CCP are doing dry runs on SIT/UAT servers before going live, they surely have an actual clue as to how long it takes? Seems to me we get less actual game time per month whilst paying the same amount. $15 a month is 50 cents a day. even if you run two clients you're losing out on a dollar. if you seriously consider that a big deal considering the updates themselves are free, leave the game and go find a better job. So CCP are gaining 50c a day for each player in Eve - How many is that now? 240,000 - you do the math
Oisin Sandovar	Posted - 2011.06.21 19:03:00 - [832] Edited by: Oisin Sandovar on 21/06/2011 19:05:29 Originally by: Random27 Those are the instructions for updating to the current version (267203) of Incursion. The patch is from 267203 to 271273. CCP generally don't advertise the URL until after downtime has ended, presumably in case they need to roll back, or change the patch at the very last minute. In other words, they will continue to advertise the old version as the current. With previous updates, it has been safe to download the patch in advance of being allowed back in, just make sure you get it from the official EVE server. If in doubt, feel free to play it safe and wait, but I can assure you that this is the genuine patch. The instructions also mention waiting for TQ to open and then download the update via the Eve client to reduce the number of problems people have experienced in the past. edit - Issues they will experience as they download a patch that might not be applicable anymore based on issues they found during the Incarna update.
Sgt Jessa Hakaari	Posted - 2011.06.21 19:05:00 - [833] It wont be up then either, I knew it would be a while so went to work for some good overtime isk. Love watching these posts, keeps me awake while here.
Hanz Plaude	Posted - 2011.06.21 19:05:00 - [834] Originally by: Aggressive Reacharound Originally by: KHAELAN 4:30 EST. Hrmm, guess I'll go get another beer... i thinks it's actually 5:30 EST, i think Well, 5:30 EDT, at least...
Madame Hiroko	Posted - 2011.06.21 19:05:00 - [835] Edited by: Madame Hiroko on 21/06/2011 19:05:16 So, by current estimations... it's 8PM for me now. So what, it finishes at 10PM? I'd go watch some adult movies or something but, that'd only waste a minute and I'd have another hour and 59 minutes with nothing to do.
Laura Naari	Posted - 2011.06.21 19:05:00 - [836] singing waiting time is the best time of your life...
Katelin Raynor Gallente	Posted - 2011.06.21 19:05:00 - [837] 18:25 Downtime is now expected to last until 21:30 UTC. aaah I am going to bed Katelin Raynor
HaKyung	Posted - 2011.06.21 19:05:00 - [838] Originally by: Frederick Yassavi Originally by: HaKyung I think what's more important for players is the fact that they pay to play and yet have to suffer multiple outages and seemingly never-ending extended downtime (yes, I know, a watched kettle never boils). Just once though I'd like to see a patch deployed within the allotted time. I mean come on, surely CCP are doing dry runs on SIT/UAT servers before going live, they surely have an actual clue as to how long it takes? Seems to me we get less actual game time per month whilst paying the same amount. By my calculations, CCP owes you 27 cents for this free content update. I'll expect it shortly
Gabriel Grimoire Ascendent. Gentlemen's Agreement	Posted - 2011.06.21 19:06:00 - [839] Originally by: Drizzd Originally by: Gabriel Grimoire Originally by: HaKyung I think what's more important for players is the fact that they pay to play and yet have to suffer multiple outages and seemingly never-ending extended downtime (yes, I know, a watched kettle never boils). Just once though I'd like to see a patch deployed within the allotted time. I mean come on, surely CCP are doing dry runs on SIT/UAT servers before going live, they surely have an actual clue as to how long it takes? Seems to me we get less actual game time per month whilst paying the same amount. They could just overestimate how long it'll take them to deploy instead of underestimating and then extending multiple times. Would make them look a bit less incompetent and calm some of the super impatient kiddies down too. You are wrong on that mate ... Just imagine CCP announces Patch Downtime of 4 Days .. the forum would EXPLODE of threads whining , nagging, calling CCP incompetent and slowasses .... no . you Testrun the deployment - it runs in 12 hours - so you hope to make it in 12 hours on the real server too - but since singularity is just 1 server and the real servers are many .. things tend to get complicated ... like updating the shared database in this case Look dude, I didn't say they needed to tack on 3 fcking days to the time frame. I said overestimate. As in tack on a few extra hours. If the devs estimate the deployment will be complete at 17:00 UTC, they should post in news that it will be complete by 22:00 UTC. That way, if they finish early, they look good. And if they end up needing more time, they have it without having to post again saying "Whoops we need more time ty for understanding lol". Seems like an easy way to avoid this kind of bull*** in the future.
WisdomPanda Gallente Goatriders Horde The Scapegoats	Posted - 2011.06.21 19:06:00 - [840] Originally by: HaKyung Originally by: Dako Semi this is very importand to all players with no patience. read the 2end post in this tread http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1532385 do it and safe yourself from hassle o/ Dako I think what's more important for players is the fact that they pay to play and yet have to suffer multiple outages and seemingly never-ending extended downtime (yes, I know, a watched kettle never boils). Just once though I'd like to see a patch deployed within the allotted time. I mean come on, surely CCP are doing dry runs on SIT/UAT servers before going live, they surely have an actual clue as to how long it takes? Seems to me we get less actual game time per month whilst paying the same amount. It might have something to do with the fact that TQ's hardware has changed radically in recent times. That, and CCP are just optimists. You'd think by now people would just add extra time onto DT regardless of what CCP says. ----- Cheesecake, Natures ultimate weapon.

Opt1mu5Pr1m3 Gallente 5ER3NITY INC War and Pestilence	Posted - 2011.06.21 19:06:00 - [841] Edited by: Opt1mu5Pr1m3 on 21/06/2011 19:06:15 Originally by: Nilt Originally by: Lee Anderson hmm i see your probs trolling care to show us the speed you got? click here and then copy and past reply with your speed, i think your lieing Here's mine. --> http://www.speedtest.net/result/1351508597.png Mine only took 6 or 7 minutes. It's good have decent internet. Yep, it is
Drizzd	Posted - 2011.06.21 19:06:00 - [842] Edited by: Drizzd on 21/06/2011 19:07:30 Originally by: HaKyung Originally by: Sister Sandiego Originally by: HaKyung I think what's more important for players is the fact that they pay to play and yet have to suffer multiple outages and seemingly never-ending extended downtime (yes, I know, a watched kettle never boils). Just once though I'd like to see a patch deployed within the allotted time. I mean come on, surely CCP are doing dry runs on SIT/UAT servers before going live, they surely have an actual clue as to how long it takes? Seems to me we get less actual game time per month whilst paying the same amount. Eh, stop complaining. there are technical thigns at play that go wrong, the bigger the patch, the more likely its DT will be trippled. Besides, everyone knows its not patch release, its patch week. you don't lose that much time playing eve, look at the PSN, and imagine how WoW players feel when they lost their game for a whole week, child rage. lol. anyway, stop your pointless whining, in the last 2 months the only real DT I've suffered is incarna and I planned that it would take at least 2 days to get working. Eh, this is why you have dress rehearsals, to root out any problems so you can be prepared for them. Currently we're about 8 hours down which, for those of us who work in the same timezone as EVE runs essentially means a full day after you take sleep and working hours into account. And there's been plenty of outages this month. Granted, they usually come back up fairly quick after an emergency reboot or w/e but still, cutting into already short window of playing time. I'd love to see CCP do the next major patch during US time, THEN you'd seem some whining! hey thats a good one .. I play eve until I need to go to bed to wake up early enough for work on next morning - and CCP has over 17 hours to deploy the patch . (i leave at 2200 utc and come from work around 1600 utc next afternoon) . i really dont understand why its always the europeans suffering the most - you come from work and ccp cuts the few hours left of the day by their crappy patch politics
Lazureus Falcone Minmatar Unforgotten.	Posted - 2011.06.21 19:07:00 - [843] Edited by: Lazureus Falcone on 21/06/2011 19:07:23 Edited by: Lazureus Falcone on 21/06/2011 19:07:13 Originally by: Nilt Originally by: Lee Anderson hmm i see your probs trolling care to show us the speed you got? click here and then copy and past reply with your speed, i think your lieing Here's mine. --> http://www.speedtest.net/result/1351508597.png Mine only took 6 or 7 minutes. It's good have decent internet. You guys should try the test again and do in from the Reykjavic servers. Now here's one from my local area:
Unforgiven Arnoux	Posted - 2011.06.21 19:08:00 - [844] Originally by: Drizzd Originally by: DIGI Byte Originally by: Sitting Pretty Originally by: DIGI Byte I Wish, with all these Downtime for patching, I wish they could have a clock in the forums displaying the time, how would i know what/when 21:30 UTC? I want to know what time it is in EVE!!! I wan to know when the server is LIVE so I can match it with my time! evemon. bottom left corner of it's window shows current EVE time. else, there are a dozen widget clocks on the market (incl freeware ones) that will show you 2 clocks, one with local time and one with EVE time ( or any other 2 time zones you want). try cnet.com, never had any trouble there. The forums need a EVE clock :( they have ... just make a fresh post and you see the EVE-Time when you created it finaly someone that isnt a complete ADHD ****** that dosent notice the time above the post.
General Windypops The Littlest Hobos En Garde	Posted - 2011.06.21 19:08:00 - [845] Originally by: HaKyung Originally by: Dako Semi this is very importand to all players with no patience. read the 2end post in this tread http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1532385 do it and safe yourself from hassle o/ Dako I think what's more important for players is the fact that they pay to play and yet have to suffer multiple outages and seemingly never-ending extended downtime (yes, I know, a watched kettle never boils). Just once though I'd like to see a patch deployed within the allotted time. I mean come on, surely CCP are doing dry runs on SIT/UAT servers before going live, they surely have an actual clue as to how long it takes? Seems to me we get less actual game time per month whilst paying the same amount. I actually prefer the current arrangement, because that way I get to watch people like you having amusing tantrums about the fact you're missing a few minutes of internet spaceships. CSM 6: Let's get Windypops indypops.
blitzrage Minmatar Stones Inc.	Posted - 2011.06.21 19:10:00 - [846] Originally by: cyber man cy when does the downtime end in amarican time I think people post this just to entice rage :) It's easy to know how much more time if you just switch your clock to UTC (GMT) time. Or you know, use some basic math skills. 21:30 (subtract 12 if you don't understand military time) If you're in the eastern time zone, with daylight savings, it's EDT which means -0400 GMT. 21:30 - 04:00 == 17:30 - 12 == 5:30pm EDT Or you know... you could always use Google to find stuff like this: http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/converter.html
Advocatus Diablo	Posted - 2011.06.21 19:10:00 - [847] Clear SKies I http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=As8cmHb-aKU How much???? 30 million ISK, sir???? I could get a completely new ship for that!!! It will practically be a new ship, sir Still, atleast if I am paying that much you will have it ready fast, right? ohhhh How long!!!? 3 week, sir **************************************** Now we now that Clear Skies I is the actually the strategy behind CCP game pricing and also serve as the patch planning process.... Yes it will be like a new game Yes it will be expensive Yes it take waaayyyy longer than the customers are rdy to wait Final qoute: Clear Skies I http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=As8cmHb-aKU 2:10 21:00 Have they fixed it yet? 21:30 Have they fixed it yet? 22:00 Have they fiiiixed it yet? 22:30 Have they fixed it YEEEEEET???? 02:45 To your surprise Charlie they have in fact finally finnished patching... **************************************** CCP out of respect for your PAYING customer you should REALLY dish out some skill points as compensation!
Andie Theke	Posted - 2011.06.21 19:10:00 - [848] Speedtest: http://www.speedtest.net/result/1351755164.png Topic: I miss my spinning ship... Will go out now, spin some cars, cows or whatever else I find in RL.
HaKyung	Posted - 2011.06.21 19:11:00 - [849] Originally by: General Windypops Originally by: HaKyung Originally by: Dako Semi this is very importand to all players with no patience. read the 2end post in this tread http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1532385 do it and safe yourself from hassle o/ Dako I think what's more important for players is the fact that they pay to play and yet have to suffer multiple outages and seemingly never-ending extended downtime (yes, I know, a watched kettle never boils). Just once though I'd like to see a patch deployed within the allotted time. I mean come on, surely CCP are doing dry runs on SIT/UAT servers before going live, they surely have an actual clue as to how long it takes? Seems to me we get less actual game time per month whilst paying the same amount. I actually prefer the current arrangement, because that way I get to watch people like you having amusing tantrums about the fact you're missing a few minutes of internet spaceships. Tantrum? What tantrum? I made what I considered to be a reasonable point. If I was having a tantrum, you'd know! lol
Conrad Peet	Posted - 2011.06.21 19:12:00 - [850] Edited by: Conrad Peet on 21/06/2011 19:13:46 Originally by: Opt1mu5Pr1m3 Originally by: Conrad Peet Originally by: HaKyung Originally by: Dako Semi this is very importand to all players with no patience. read the 2end post in this tread http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1532385 do it and safe yourself from hassle o/ Dako I think what's more important for players is the fact that they pay to play and yet have to suffer multiple outages and seemingly never-ending extended downtime (yes, I know, a watched kettle never boils). Just once though I'd like to see a patch deployed within the allotted time. I mean come on, surely CCP are doing dry runs on SIT/UAT servers before going live, they surely have an actual clue as to how long it takes? Seems to me we get less actual game time per month whilst paying the same amount. $15 a month is 50 cents a day. even if you run two clients you're losing out on a dollar. if you seriously consider that a big deal considering the updates themselves are free, leave the game and go find a better job. So CCP are gaining 50c a day for each player in Eve - How many is that now? 240,000 - you do the math they're not gaining it because it still costs them the same amount in infrastructure, bandwidth, payroll, taxes, utilities, marketing and development when the server is down. It's a business, people. They're not here to entertain you out of the goodness of their hearts. It's two cents per hour. People need to quit their ***ing about the lost money. I know it's inconvenient and you want to play a video game but *ing about the money is simply ****ed. First world problems indeed.

Ghostorgheist	Posted - 2011.06.21 19:12:00 - [851] Hm - was this the kid that messed w/Eve http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-13859868
Etheoma	Posted - 2011.06.21 19:12:00 - [852] Originally by: WisdomPanda Originally by: HaKyung Originally by: Dako Semi this is very importand to all players with no patience. read the 2end post in this tread http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1532385 do it and safe yourself from hassle o/ Dako I think what's more important for players is the fact that they pay to play and yet have to suffer multiple outages and seemingly never-ending extended downtime (yes, I know, a watched kettle never boils). Just once though I'd like to see a patch deployed within the allotted time. I mean come on, surely CCP are doing dry runs on SIT/UAT servers before going live, they surely have an actual clue as to how long it takes? Seems to me we get less actual game time per month whilst paying the same amount. It might have something to do with the fact that TQ's hardware has changed radically in recent times. That, and CCP are just optimists. You'd think by now people would just add extra time onto DT regardless of what CCP says. I do add time onto what CCP says add 25% then that's when it could be up double that time and that's when it will most probably be up
Phantom Silver	Posted - 2011.06.21 19:12:00 - [853] how to date a girl... first aprouch her, then ask them something, not just a yes and no question* then get her number within 10 minutes... wait 2 days to call her, then go to a lounch bar, then get the seduce move going... and bang... there you go.... Dating 101 More hints and tips Contact Phantom Silver something to do when eve is down..
Laura Naari	Posted - 2011.06.21 19:13:00 - [854] the annoying problem isnt the long downtime, but extending it ever and ever... better say: we are online tomorrow, again... but that's a kind of ****ty... cause as I know you ccp guys at 21:30 u say extended to 22:00 and than 23:00... I don't know the problems an online game can occur but can't you guess a little bit better?
Linda Smithson	Posted - 2011.06.21 19:13:00 - [855] If only my smart phone could PLAY eve - it takes less time to download the FULL client to my smartphone than to D/L the patch over the VPN I have to use at work...
Lorin Edehiel Northmoor Inc.	Posted - 2011.06.21 19:13:00 - [856] Originally by: Advocatus Diablo CCP out of respect for your PAYING customer you should REALLY dish out some skill points as compensation! and why is that, dear sir? aint your char training while server is offline?
Opt1mu5Pr1m3 Gallente 5ER3NITY INC War and Pestilence	Posted - 2011.06.21 19:13:00 - [857] Originally by: Lazureus Falcone Edited by: Lazureus Falcone on 21/06/2011 19:07:23 Edited by: Lazureus Falcone on 21/06/2011 19:07:13 Originally by: Nilt Originally by: Lee Anderson hmm i see your probs trolling care to show us the speed you got? click here and then copy and past reply with your speed, i think your lieing Here's mine. --> http://www.speedtest.net/result/1351508597.png Mine only took 6 or 7 minutes. It's good have decent internet. You guys should try the test again and do in from the Reykjavic servers. That sucks a bit
Ragnar Urich	Posted - 2011.06.21 19:14:00 - [858] I love reading the forums during patch day. You whinging feckwits need to leave EVE and play something that allows for the diminished attention span you apparently have. Maybe Snap or tiddlywinks. I would like to come to your supermarket where you stack shelves and moan that the cans of beans aren't straight. reiterating other adults on the forums. Do something else or enjoy other people showing how immature they can be by venting their pre-pubescent selves in public.
Chris Sevey	Posted - 2011.06.21 19:14:00 - [859] Does anyone know what happened to bookmarks in overview?
General Windypops The Littlest Hobos En Garde	Posted - 2011.06.21 19:15:00 - [860] It's back up! CSM 6: Let's get Windypops indypops.

Cobra Gaterau	Posted - 2011.06.21 19:15:00 - [861] Originally by: RustyMunk Originally by: Aggressive Reacharound Originally by: KHAELAN 4:30 EST. Hrmm, guess I'll go get another beer... i thinks it's actually 5:30 EST, i think he need lots more beers Look at it this way,EVE time is 4 hours ahead of EST in the States. Sooooooooooooooo if you are unable to do the math I will help..now keep up.this could get tricky :P...... 21:30 EVE time potential start up -4 hours.So thats 9:30 PM - 4 hours =...wait for it..........5:30 ORRRRRRRRRRRR 17:30 xD
Kno Bodeesbitch	Posted - 2011.06.21 19:16:00 - [862] Originally by: Astenion Originally by: coeathal vega bahahhaha all the rage. Make some tea. Read a book. Walk your dog. RELAX. Like Supported...I would like to add that there are also members of the opposite sex outside in the real world just waiting to be...erhm..podded...its fun and it pads your killboard. Pro tip:In RL always go for the solo..ganking is never as fun as it looks in the movies
Sanev Khan	Posted - 2011.06.21 19:17:00 - [863] Originally by: Phantom Silver how to date a girl... first aprouch her, then ask them something, not just a yes and no question* then get her number within 10 minutes... wait 2 days to call her, then go to a lounch bar, then get the seduce move going... and bang... there you go.... Dating 101 More hints and tips Contact Phantom Silver something to do when eve is down.. I've got one that works everytime. " Does this tissue smell like chloroform to you ? "
John192	Posted - 2011.06.21 19:18:00 - [864] not yet - and a first look over the various tabs of the options window didnt reveal one .... hope for a later patch fix Disable "load station (something)" cant remember the exact name but that will stop CQ fromloadin upon docking it's "load Station Environment", and i was on sisi day before yesterday and couldn't find it. Just tested it and it works
Young Surian	Posted - 2011.06.21 19:18:00 - [865] Eve EVE EEEEEEVAH!!!!
Newton Gwyn	Posted - 2011.06.21 19:18:00 - [866] Can we have a vote whether some of these comments are more fun than the game? Seriously, can we add a link to a world clock as a sticky? I'm more worried about the Greek economy than whether eve gets delayedby another hour. Back to the BBC.
polerbear	Posted - 2011.06.21 19:19:00 - [867] Originally by: Lorin Edehiel Originally by: Advocatus Diablo CCP out of respect for your PAYING customer you should REALLY dish out some skill points as compensation! and why is that, dear sir? aint your char training while server is offline? Mine won't be in 44m 25s
clitheroica	Posted - 2011.06.21 19:19:00 - [868] as long as "stack all" and "sort by type" have been merged i'm happy
Dako Semi	Posted - 2011.06.21 19:21:00 - [869] Originally by: Opt1mu5Pr1m3 Originally by: Lazureus Falcone Edited by: Lazureus Falcone on 21/06/2011 19:07:23 Edited by: Lazureus Falcone on 21/06/2011 19:07:13 Originally by: Nilt Originally by: Lee Anderson hmm i see your probs trolling care to show us the speed you got? click here and then copy and past reply with your speed, i think your lieing Here's mine. --> http://www.speedtest.net/result/1351508597.png Mine only took 6 or 7 minutes. It's good have decent internet. You guys should try the test again and do in from the Reykjavic servers. That sucks a bit i am doing a test now by downloading the full bild. This is not hosted in raykjaviv to download 4 GB is going to take me 4 minutes and 30 seconds Dako
Young Surian	Posted - 2011.06.21 19:21:00 - [870] Originally by: Newton Gwyn Can we have a vote whether some of these comments are more fun than the game? Seriously, can we add a link to a world clock as a sticky? I'm more worried about the Greek economy than whether eve gets delayedby another hour. Back to the BBC. Let me put your worries concerning Greece at rest, it's going to Hades in a handbasket. So lets get back to worrying about EVE, 'mkay?

Chocolate Raine	Posted - 2011.06.21 19:21:00 - [871] Please, stupid people, when you ask if the patch is available, or what time EST is in UTC, post what country you're from. I'd like to do a study of who the dumbest people in the world are. I'm guessing Americans, but I'm prepared to be surprised.
HaKyung	Posted - 2011.06.21 19:21:00 - [872] Originally by: Sanev Khan Originally by: Phantom Silver how to date a girl... first aprouch her, then ask them something, not just a yes and no question* then get her number within 10 minutes... wait 2 days to call her, then go to a lounch bar, then get the seduce move going... and bang... there you go.... Dating 101 More hints and tips Contact Phantom Silver something to do when eve is down.. I've got one that works everytime. " Does this tissue smell like chloroform to you ? " Which is usually followed by "You've got a real purdy mouth" from your cellmate!
Carli Zandrya	Posted - 2011.06.21 19:22:00 - [873] HAHAHAHA to the QQ and the anti-QQ crowd. Thanks for the entertainment. We now return you to your regularly scheduled lives..
Valleree	Posted - 2011.06.21 19:22:00 - [874] For all of you who insist on complaining about extended DT's and such...I have hacked into CCP's mainframe and found the equation they base their DT estimates off of. See below: DTP = 1 + z + z3/3 + z5-5 + (dT/dx = -sin(x) + cos(x) i) - (e i = -1) Carry the 2... sqrt(a2+b2)[a/sqrt(a2+b2) + bi/sqrt(a2+b2)] = STFU Where STFU = When extended DT for patch is announced, train a week long skill in the queue or STFU about it because this happens every time.
Laura Naari	Posted - 2011.06.21 19:24:00 - [875] row row row your boat gently down the stream....
McBane Gallente AFK Initiative	Posted - 2011.06.21 19:24:00 - [876] Just wondering... why isn't the update availble to download while they are doing all this - or are they still coding it now?!? _______________________________________________ Top 10 things I hate in these forums. snip -Oi mod
Ivanna Nuke Gallente Holders Of The Cowbell	Posted - 2011.06.21 19:25:00 - [877] Originally by: Ghostorgheist Hm - was this the kid that messed w/Eve http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-13859868 According to Lulz on Twitter, he is an unimportant member of Lulz and not core to their operations, how true that is I have no idea.
Young Surian	Posted - 2011.06.21 19:25:00 - [878] For all those wrestling with time and timezones, here yah go: Help for you 'tards not being able to calculate your timezone differences.
Morgan Katarn	Posted - 2011.06.21 19:25:00 - [879] merrily merrily gently down the stream
DoPlanet	Posted - 2011.06.21 19:27:00 - [880] who much downtime will there be after incarna will be online ?

Aaron Kyoto Minmatar	Posted - 2011.06.21 19:27:00 - [881] Originally by: Brek'Diel Prophet Edited by: Brek''Diel Prophet on 21/06/2011 18:20:21 I would love to have a corpse closet. most epic idea ever. forget a knife for removal, take it to a room in the back with a medical table and a cart with surgery tools. give it a Fallout3 workbench look though. +1
Zoofelynn	Posted - 2011.06.21 19:27:00 - [882] Originally by: Opt1mu5Pr1m3 Edited by: Opt1mu5Pr1m3 on 21/06/2011 19:06:15 Originally by: Nilt Originally by: Lee Anderson hmm i see your probs trolling care to show us the speed you got? click here and then copy and past reply with your speed, i think your lieing Here's mine. --> http://www.speedtest.net/result/1351508597.png Mine only took 6 or 7 minutes. It's good have decent internet. Yep, it is Do I win?
Brek'Diel Prophet	Posted - 2011.06.21 19:28:00 - [883] Originally by: Chocolate Raine Please, stupid people, when you ask if the patch is available, or what time EST is in UTC, post what country you're from. I'd like to do a study of who the dumbest people in the world are. I'm guessing Americans, but I'm prepared to be surprised. Funny thing is you just proved who the dumbest people in the world are. because as you know EST is the east coast of america. just because some 12yr old doesnt know how to convert time sure doesnt give morons like you reason to start throwing insults at anyone, but yourself.
Young Surian	Posted - 2011.06.21 19:28:00 - [884] Originally by: Laura Naari row row row your boat gently down the stream.... Originally by: Morgan Katarn merrily merrily gently down the stream Surian fires his autocanons and sinks the boat
CARB0N FIBER	Posted - 2011.06.21 19:28:00 - [885] Originally by: Ragnar Urich I love reading the forums during patch day. You whinging feckwits need to leave EVE and play something that allows for the diminished attention span you apparently have. Maybe Snap or tiddlywinks. I would like to come to your supermarket where you stack shelves and moan that the cans of beans aren't straight. reiterating other adults on the forums. Do something else or enjoy other people showing how immature they can be by venting their pre-pubescent selves in public. Dude you are not going to find love giving slurpees in a public restroom.
Random27	Posted - 2011.06.21 19:28:00 - [886] Originally by: McBane Just wondering... why isn't the update availble to download while they are doing all this - or are they still coding it now?!? Excuse me while I extract my palm from my face, where it inexplicably appears to have become lodged. http://cdn1.eveonline.com/evepremiumpatch267203-271273_m.exe
charlie Anstian	Posted - 2011.06.21 19:30:00 - [887] Originally by: Chocolate Raine Please, stupid people, when you ask if the patch is available, or what time EST is in UTC, post what country you're from. I'd like to do a study of who the dumbest people in the world are. I'm guessing Americans, but I'm prepared to be surprised. so funny let me help and click the link==>>>http://tinyurl.com/3odu9qo
Krynn Darkhold	Posted - 2011.06.21 19:31:00 - [888] FYI, EST is east coast to midwest US and Canada. 12 day trainer ftw
Aiko Kusoni Caldari 8 Bits of Awesome	Posted - 2011.06.21 19:31:00 - [889] Eve not up yet? sells soul to minecraft gods
Setth Winter Corp 54 Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2011.06.21 19:31:00 - [890] The general excitement this patch was supposed to generate is left a bit numb when Incarna was supposed to be "walking-in-stations", not "walking in a room"; a slum at that, as the minmatar CQ is the only CQ being released on the launch patch. This fact makes me a bit skeptical that CCP's promises will be fully realized by the time Incarna has played out it's cycle, considering only one racial variant of the single room CQ is ready - let alone four fully rendered racial stations. Of course, they didn't cut any corners padding their pockets with the Aurum launch - something I'm sure they afforded themselves lots of time to develop plenty of wares for players to spend our plex on; I don't care about clothes right now - it is abrasive to dock in the prestine hangers of a golden Amarr station only to walk into the redlight den of flea-ridden space trash. I give the turrets and the maller upgrades a +1, but besides that I don't see much substance here. I hope we see more, soon. I will give CCP credit regarding the sisi tests, as CQ was running pretty terrible up until recently - whatever changes they made to performance did nicely and I hope continued performance improvements are still down the pipe. This is a win. J0KR\|A♣\|NRDS

Tiberious Kel'Doran	Posted - 2011.06.21 19:32:00 - [891] Originally by: Young Surian Originally by: Laura Naari row row row your boat gently down the stream.... Originally by: Morgan Katarn merrily merrily gently down the stream Surian fires his autocanons and sinks the boat lol lol lol these posts appearing on the forum....
Young Surian	Posted - 2011.06.21 19:32:00 - [892] Originally by: Random27 Originally by: McBane Just wondering... why isn't the update availble to download while they are doing all this - or are they still coding it now?!? Excuse me while I extract my palm from my face, where it inexplicably appears to have become lodged. http://cdn1.eveonline.com/evepremiumpatch267203-271273_m.exe Right, so here's my next (undoubtedly just as stupid) question, do you have a link for the full offline download? Don't hurt your palm with your face please.
Rigamrts	Posted - 2011.06.21 19:32:00 - [893] i'm just chillin out watch people freak they can't get their eve fix
BamBam's	Posted - 2011.06.21 19:33:00 - [894] why is there no one ever spamming forum ?^
Dako Semi	Posted - 2011.06.21 19:33:00 - [895] Edited by: Dako Semi on 21/06/2011 19:34:00 Originally by: Zoofelynn Originally by: Opt1mu5Pr1m3 Edited by: Opt1mu5Pr1m3 on 21/06/2011 19:06:15 Originally by: Nilt Originally by: Lee Anderson hmm i see your probs trolling care to show us the speed you got? click here and then copy and past reply with your speed, i think your lieing Here's mine. --> http://www.speedtest.net/result/1351508597.png Mine only took 6 or 7 minutes. It's good have decent internet. Yep, it is Do I win? No i win
Morgan Katarn	Posted - 2011.06.21 19:33:00 - [896] Merrily merrily boat dodges Autocannons fire keeps going down the stream anyway........
Gabriel Grimoire Amarr Ascendent. Gentlemen's Agreement	Posted - 2011.06.21 19:34:00 - [897] Originally by: Setth Winter The general excitement this patch was supposed to generate is left a bit numb when Incarna was supposed to be "walking-in-stations", not "walking in a room"; a slum at that, as the minmatar CQ is the only CQ being released on the launch patch. This fact makes me a bit skeptical that CCP's promises will be fully realized by the time Incarna has played out it's cycle, considering only one racial variant of the single room CQ is ready - let alone four fully rendered racial stations. Of course, they didn't cut any corners padding their pockets with the Aurum launch - something I'm sure they afforded themselves lots of time to develop plenty of wares for players to spend our plex on; I don't care about clothes right now - it is abrasive to dock in the prestine hangers of a golden Amarr station only to walk into the redlight den of flea-ridden space trash. I give the turrets and the maller upgrades a +1, but besides that I don't see much substance here. I hope we see more, soon. I will give CCP credit regarding the sisi tests, as CQ was running pretty terrible up until recently - whatever changes they made to performance did nicely and I hope continued performance improvements are still down the pipe. This is a win. Hell, I like you. You can come over and f*ck my sister. +1 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Leonard T. Washington gets buck naked for no man.
Kerr avonn Minmatar	Posted - 2011.06.21 19:34:00 - [898] Originally by: Chocolate Raine Please, stupid people, when you ask if the patch is available, or what time EST is in UTC, post what country you're from. I'd like to do a study of who the dumbest people in the world are. I'm guessing Americans, but I'm prepared to be surprised. QFT
Newton Gwyn	Posted - 2011.06.21 19:34:00 - [899] Excuse me while I extract my palm from my face, where it inexplicably appears to have become lodged. Will Incarna allow you to facepalm in a station?
Young Surian	Posted - 2011.06.21 19:35:00 - [900] Originally by: Morgan Katarn Merrily merrily boat dodges Autocannons fire keeps going down the stream anyway........ Surian merrily carpet bombs the entire region with the boat as center point, dropping three nukes for good measure and evaporates the boat

BamBam's	Posted - 2011.06.21 19:35:00 - [901] Originally by: Newton Gwyn Excuse me while I extract my palm from my face, where it inexplicably appears to have become lodged. Will Incarna allow you to facepalm in a station? Now that would be awsome pod one watch him facepalm at the station..
McBane Gallente AFK Initiative	Posted - 2011.06.21 19:36:00 - [902] Originally by: Random27 Originally by: McBane Just wondering... why isn't the update availble to download while they are doing all this - or are they still coding it now?!? Excuse me while I extract my palm from my face, where it inexplicably appears to have become lodged. http://cdn1.eveonline.com/evepremiumpatch267203-271273_m.exe Cheers, I appear to be blind to where the hell they've posted a link to that, cos the 'eve download' is still handing out the old client?!? Hope you're palm is not stuck too bad this time! _______________________________________________ Top 10 things I hate in these forums. snip -Oi mod
Random27	Posted - 2011.06.21 19:36:00 - [903] Originally by: Young Surian Originally by: Random27 Originally by: McBane Just wondering... why isn't the update availble to download while they are doing all this - or are they still coding it now?!? Excuse me while I extract my palm from my face, where it inexplicably appears to have become lodged. http://cdn1.eveonline.com/evepremiumpatch267203-271273_m.exe Right, so here's my next (undoubtedly just as stupid) question, do you have a link for the full offline download? Don't hurt your palm with your face please. Nope, that's a fair question. That's the patch from Incursion to Incarna, download the latest Incursion first, then patch with the above link, offline installer for (current) Incursion is at: http://www.eveonline.com/download/?fallback=1 Bear in mind that the full installer is about 5 gigabytes, so only download it if you have to, patches are usually available from earlier installs if you have an old one in a downloads folder somewhere.
Rigamrts	Posted - 2011.06.21 19:37:00 - [904] Edited by: Rigamrts on 21/06/2011 19:37:38 Originally by: Kerr avonn Originally by: Chocolate Raine Please, stupid people, when you ask if the patch is available, or what time EST is in UTC, post what country you're from. I'd like to do a study of who the dumbest people in the world are. I'm guessing Americans, but I'm prepared to be surprised. QFT i feel your pain man. people like those to lazy to look up what time it is in GMT give us smart Americans a bad name and should be banned from the gene-pool
Talon Calais Defilers Of The Cross	Posted - 2011.06.21 19:37:00 - [905] Originally by: Ragnar Urich I love reading the forums during patch day. You whinging feckwits need to leave EVE and play something that allows for the diminished attention span you apparently have. Maybe Snap or tiddlywinks. I would like to come to your supermarket where you stack shelves and moan that the cans of beans aren't straight. reiterating other adults on the forums. Do something else or enjoy other people showing how immature they can be by venting their pre-pubescent selves in public. Oh great we have summerfigs here too?
Enigma Flux Amarr Space Tech Solutions PHOENIX REPUBLIC	Posted - 2011.06.21 19:37:00 - [906] Liking the log in screen, turret effects look cool, hoping missile batteries have the same? Don't worry about the time CCP just make it right please!!!!! Great Game
Young Surian	Posted - 2011.06.21 19:38:00 - [907] Originally by: Gabriel Grimoire Originally by: Setth Winter The general excitement this patch was supposed to generate is left a bit numb when Incarna was supposed to be "walking-in-stations", not "walking in a room"; a slum at that, as the minmatar CQ is the only CQ being released on the launch patch. This fact makes me a bit skeptical that CCP's promises will be fully realized by the time Incarna has played out it's cycle, considering only one racial variant of the single room CQ is ready - let alone four fully rendered racial stations. Of course, they didn't cut any corners padding their pockets with the Aurum launch - something I'm sure they afforded themselves lots of time to develop plenty of wares for players to spend our plex on; I don't care about clothes right now - it is abrasive to dock in the prestine hangers of a golden Amarr station only to walk into the redlight den of flea-ridden space trash. I give the turrets and the maller upgrades a +1, but besides that I don't see much substance here. I hope we see more, soon. I will give CCP credit regarding the sisi tests, as CQ was running pretty terrible up until recently - whatever changes they made to performance did nicely and I hope continued performance improvements are still down the pipe. This is a win. I bet you he has a BUTT ugly sister not even Bokito would fck. Hell, I like you. You can come over and fck my sister. +1
Morgan Katarn	Posted - 2011.06.21 19:38:00 - [908] Merrily merrily boat activates its improbillty drive and turns the carpet bombs into yoghurt packages and the nukes into swiss cheese
polerbear	Posted - 2011.06.21 19:38:00 - [909] Originally by: Tiberious Kel'Doran Originally by: Young Surian Originally by: Laura Naari row row row your boat gently down the stream.... Originally by: Morgan Katarn merrily merrily gently down the stream Surian fires his autocanons and sinks the boat lol lol lol these posts appearing on the forum.... verily, verily, verily, verily flames deriding Aurum
Simanti	Posted - 2011.06.21 19:38:00 - [910] Originally by: Phantom Silver how to date a girl... first aprouch her, then ask them something, not just a yes and no question* then get her number within 10 minutes... wait 2 days to call her, then go to a lounch bar, then get the seduce move going... and bang... there you go.... Dude - I was gonna play Eve whilst I was waiting the 2 days to call her - wtf do I do now? BTW - what's a lounch bar?

AnSky BALKAN EXPRESS HUN Reloaded	Posted - 2011.06.21 19:38:00 - [911] With all due respect to the people who spent long working hours programming and designing CQ and all the incarna stuff.. I'm sorry to say, but CQ is total crap... it has absolutely no purpose, and as an old eve player i'm totaly dissapointed in the way it makes my gameplay experience terrible. It takes long to load upon logging, i have no idea what ship im in till i do some walking around or open fitting screen.. i'm bombarded by rediculous information from scrren in there, etc and dont tell me that is says on logging screen what ship im in, pls... QC shuld have never be replacing old station enviroment, but to be an option. And most of all... Spining ship in station is an feature, and one of most basic and rudimentary atributes of EvE. I really miss it and i really badly want it back....
Rutger Centemus Phantom Squad Atlas.	Posted - 2011.06.21 19:38:00 - [912] Originally by: Newton Gwyn Excuse me while I extract my palm from my face, where it inexplicably appears to have become lodged. Will Incarna allow you to facepalm in a station? Not as a standard option, you'll have to pay for that one with Aur. Originally by: Crumplecorn I prefer launching bathtubs of antimatter at my opponents over pointing an open DVD player at them, even if the bathtubs do miss a lot. So no.
Chocolate Raine	Posted - 2011.06.21 19:39:00 - [913] Originally by: Brek'Diel Prophet Originally by: Chocolate Raine Please, stupid people, when you ask if the patch is available, or what time EST is in UTC, post what country you're from. I'd like to do a study of who the dumbest people in the world are. I'm guessing Americans, but I'm prepared to be surprised. Funny thing is you just proved who the dumbest people in the world are. because as you know EST is the east coast of america. just because some 12yr old doesnt know how to convert time sure doesnt give morons like you reason to start throwing insults at anyone, but yourself. Oh, sorry, I didn't know Canada and the Cayman Islands, who also use EST, were part of the USA. Thanks for letting me know. I used EST as an example, you donkey.
Effect One Estrale Frontiers	Posted - 2011.06.21 19:39:00 - [914] Edited by: Effect One on 21/06/2011 19:39:19 Patch is avaliable: Windows: http://content.eveonline.com/evepremiumpatch267203-271273_m.exe Mac: http://content.eveonline.com/mac/evepremiumpatch267203-271273-mac.tgz
Gabriel Grimoire Amarr Ascendent. Gentlemen's Agreement	Posted - 2011.06.21 19:40:00 - [915] Originally by: Young Surian Originally by: Gabriel Grimoire Originally by: Setth Winter The general excitement this patch was supposed to generate is left a bit numb when Incarna was supposed to be "walking-in-stations", not "walking in a room"; a slum at that, as the minmatar CQ is the only CQ being released on the launch patch. This fact makes me a bit skeptical that CCP's promises will be fully realized by the time Incarna has played out it's cycle, considering only one racial variant of the single room CQ is ready - let alone four fully rendered racial stations. Of course, they didn't cut any corners padding their pockets with the Aurum launch - something I'm sure they afforded themselves lots of time to develop plenty of wares for players to spend our plex on; I don't care about clothes right now - it is abrasive to dock in the prestine hangers of a golden Amarr station only to walk into the redlight den of flea-ridden space trash. I give the turrets and the maller upgrades a +1, but besides that I don't see much substance here. I hope we see more, soon. I will give CCP credit regarding the sisi tests, as CQ was running pretty terrible up until recently - whatever changes they made to performance did nicely and I hope continued performance improvements are still down the pipe. This is a win. I bet you he has a BUTT ugly sister not even Bokito would fck. Hell, I like you. You can come over and fck my sister. +1 Fail quote flame is fail. L2 type stuff OUTSIDE the quotations, kay? Also, I don't actually have a sister. I just love Stanley Kubrick films. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Leonard T. Washington gets buck naked for no man.
BamBam's	Posted - 2011.06.21 19:41:00 - [916] Spining ship in station is an feature, and one of most basic and rudimentary atributes of EvE. lol imagine fleets at spinning station..
Gorou Dai	Posted - 2011.06.21 19:41:00 - [917] Ive downloaded the patch, tried the repair but my client is still incompatible. WThell? I want to log in! :)
Kerr avonn Minmatar	Posted - 2011.06.21 19:41:00 - [918] Originally by: Young Surian Originally by: Morgan Katarn Merrily merrily boat dodges Autocannons fire keeps going down the stream anyway........ Surian merrily carpet bombs the entire region with the boat as center point, dropping three nukes for good measure and evaporates the boat Maybe its a jovian rowing boat?
yewl	Posted - 2011.06.21 19:41:00 - [919] Originally by: Young Surian Originally by: Morgan Katarn Merrily merrily boat dodges Autocannons fire keeps going down the stream anyway........ Surian merrily carpet bombs the entire region with the boat as center point, dropping three nukes for good measure and evaporates the boat[/quote share your meds pleze?
Ivanna Nuke Gallente Holders Of The Cowbell	Posted - 2011.06.21 19:41:00 - [920] Surely thought atomic as the golf ball is the giant storm of the wooden carrot will permit hippos to land on the court of pear? I mean the basketball lands of the potato kingdom do align now and then with the revolving pears of the apple men of the north, so with lasers and pineapples the true piglet of the motorized steam rolling digital watches should permit the train to run on the time-scale of a newton ant? Let it be known all and wide that the game is rolling and surely in the end you will all loose it and of course which seat can I take?

Young Surian	Posted - 2011.06.21 19:43:00 - [921] Originally by: Gabriel Grimoire Originally by: Young Surian Originally by: Gabriel Grimoire Originally by: Setth Winter The general excitement this patch was supposed to generate is left a bit numb when Incarna was supposed to be "walking-in-stations", not "walking in a room"; a slum at that, as the minmatar CQ is the only CQ being released on the launch patch. This fact makes me a bit skeptical that CCP's promises will be fully realized by the time Incarna has played out it's cycle, considering only one racial variant of the single room CQ is ready - let alone four fully rendered racial stations. Of course, they didn't cut any corners padding their pockets with the Aurum launch - something I'm sure they afforded themselves lots of time to develop plenty of wares for players to spend our plex on; I don't care about clothes right now - it is abrasive to dock in the prestine hangers of a golden Amarr station only to walk into the redlight den of flea-ridden space trash. I give the turrets and the maller upgrades a +1, but besides that I don't see much substance here. I hope we see more, soon. I will give CCP credit regarding the sisi tests, as CQ was running pretty terrible up until recently - whatever changes they made to performance did nicely and I hope continued performance improvements are still down the pipe. This is a win. I bet you he has a BUTT ugly sister not even Bokito would fck. Hell, I like you. You can come over and fck my sister. +1 Fail quote flame is fail. L2 type stuff OUTSIDE the quotations, kay? Also, I don't actually have a sister. I just love Stanley Kubrick films. Yeah, something went awry when I tried to post too quickly. The forum started moaning at me and I had to kick the b*tch. Apparently it didn't take to kindly to that.
Tina OPPENHEIIMER	Posted - 2011.06.21 19:43:00 - [922] Edited by: Tina OPPENHEIIMER on 21/06/2011 19:43:46 Originally by: Effect One Edited by: Effect One on 21/06/2011 19:39:19 Patch is avaliable: Windows: http://content.eveonline.com/evepremiumpatch267203-271273_m.exe Mac: http://content.eveonline.com/mac/evepremiumpatch267203-271273-mac.tgz Why this patchs are not in the official EVE patch page ???? Why ? Why ?? Pleasure of the secret ??? PS : Thanks for the link !
Random27	Posted - 2011.06.21 19:43:00 - [923] Originally by: McBane Originally by: Random27 Originally by: McBane Just wondering... why isn't the update availble to download while they are doing all this - or are they still coding it now?!? Excuse me while I extract my palm from my face, where it inexplicably appears to have become lodged. http://cdn1.eveonline.com/evepremiumpatch267203-271273_m.exe Cheers, I appear to be blind to where the hell they've posted a link to that, cos the 'eve download' is still handing out the old client?!? Hope you're palm is not stuck too bad this time! For future reference for all, the way to figure out the download location and filename is as follows: 1) start your client, it will say incompatible (client) 2) click the button that says 'patch info' 3) Note the from and to version, e.g. 'Patch 267203 to 271273 addresses Patch notes for Incarna' 4) The link to download will be http://cdn1.eveonline.com/evepremiumpatchaaaaaa-bbbbbb_m.exe where aaaaaa and bbbbbb are the old and new version numbers. If in doubt, google the new version number and the words 'eve online client patch'. Only ever download from the official domain, if in doubt, do a whois domain name registry lookup on the domain (cdn1.eveonline.com) The same questions get asked every time we have a new release, no doubt I will be posting this again.
Zh'Khraag	Posted - 2011.06.21 19:44:00 - [924] Originally by: Tiberious Kel'Doran Originally by: Young Surian Originally by: Laura Naari row row row your boat gently down the stream.... Originally by: Morgan Katarn merrily merrily gently down the stream Surian fires his autocanons and sinks the boat lol lol lol these posts appearing on the forum.... Waiting for the client patch I'm thinking of redrum
Ghost Slyna FanVettja	Posted - 2011.06.21 19:44:00 - [925] Originally by: Young Surian Originally by: Morgan Katarn Merrily merrily boat dodges Autocannons fire keeps going down the stream anyway........ Surian merrily carpet bombs the entire region with the boat as center point, dropping three nukes for good measure and evaporates the boat No you don't =) Because the server is down.
Nicole McClane	Posted - 2011.06.21 19:45:00 - [926] My ship has a drone bay, a cargo bay .... I immediately need a clothes bay or wardrobe bay for all my 128 new dresses and 154 shoes! Should I leave everything on the station (my cargo bay is full)? I think we need to build a new women ship
Young Surian	Posted - 2011.06.21 19:46:00 - [927] Originally by: yewl Originally by: Young Surian Originally by: Morgan Katarn Merrily merrily boat dodges Autocannons fire keeps going down the stream anyway........ Surian merrily carpet bombs the entire region with the boat as center point, dropping three nukes for good measure and evaporates the boat[/quote share your meds pleze? Apparently it's not just me failquoting. What a relief. My pills are orange and have an alien on them. They make me see perty colors. Let me tell you where to get them. You go down the street and... ooooh Wanders of distracted by something shiny
Sheila Shenrose	Posted - 2011.06.21 19:46:00 - [928] Originally by: Tina OPPENHEIIMER Edited by: Tina OPPENHEIIMER on 21/06/2011 19:43:46 Originally by: Effect One Edited by: Effect One on 21/06/2011 19:39:19 Patch is avaliable: Windows: http://content.eveonline.com/evepremiumpatch267203-271273_m.exe Mac: http://content.eveonline.com/mac/evepremiumpatch267203-271273-mac.tgz Why this patchs are not in the official EVE patch page ???? Why ? Why ?? Pleasure of the secret ??? PS : Thanks for the link ! your post is ironic, isn't it?
Rigamrts	Posted - 2011.06.21 19:46:00 - [929] come on guys don't get your panties in a bunch only one hour and 45 mins time till another dt extention
Gwendia	Posted - 2011.06.21 19:47:00 - [930] My milkshake brings all the boys to the yard and .....

LoTaTiA	Posted - 2011.06.21 19:47:00 - [931] I'm sure that ccp has not enough programmers who have experience with 3d graphics .. so awesome eve may be .. Realistically, it is a database game with addon graphics. the current technology is an challenge for even established companys on the market. If any of you seriously thought that "walking on stations" will come soon as they have announced it years ago ... the same who whine about it now that there is only one roomstyle
Oisin Sandovar	Posted - 2011.06.21 19:47:00 - [932] Originally by: Nicole McClane I think we need to build a new women ship There is one, it's called a freighter! It just doesn't come with shoe trees. You'll need Aurum for that!
Pimpchico Gallente USA Aftermath Intergalactic Exports Group	Posted - 2011.06.21 19:49:00 - [933] Originally by: Gabriel Grimoire} Hell, I like you. You can come over and f*ck my sister. +1[/quote for those who dont know what full metal jacket is careful, language. dont play at work with full volume......
General Windypops The Littlest Hobos En Garde	Posted - 2011.06.21 19:49:00 - [934] Next person to post gets to touch me! CSM 6: Let's get Windypops indypops.
Vengeant Crimson	Posted - 2011.06.21 19:49:00 - [935] Originally by: Nicole McClane I think we need to build a new women ship You mean a flying kitchen?
Young Surian	Posted - 2011.06.21 19:50:00 - [936] Originally by: Ghost Slyna FanVettja Originally by: Young Surian Originally by: Morgan Katarn Merrily merrily boat dodges Autocannons fire keeps going down the stream anyway........ Surian merrily carpet bombs the entire region with the boat as center point, dropping three nukes for good measure and evaporates the boat No you don't =) Because the server is down. Yes, but putting a RL full metal jacket round through that tiny brain of the person in the boat is illegal. It is... isn't it?
Ruby Muerte	Posted - 2011.06.21 19:50:00 - [937] Interned spaceships?
McBane Gallente AFK Initiative	Posted - 2011.06.21 19:50:00 - [938] Originally by: Random27 Originally by: McBane Originally by: Random27 Originally by: McBane Just wondering... why isn't the update availble to download while they are doing all this - or are they still coding it now?!? Excuse me while I extract my palm from my face, where it inexplicably appears to have become lodged. http://cdn1.eveonline.com/evepremiumpatch267203-271273_m.exe Cheers, I appear to be blind to where the hell they've posted a link to that, cos the 'eve download' is still handing out the old client?!? Hope you're palm is not stuck too bad this time! For future reference for all, the way to figure out the download location and filename is as follows: 1) start your client, it will say incompatible (client) 2) click the button that says 'patch info' 3) Note the from and to version, e.g. 'Patch 267203 to 271273 addresses Patch notes for Incarna' 4) The link to download will be http://cdn1.eveonline.com/evepremiumpatchaaaaaa-bbbbbb_m.exe where aaaaaa and bbbbbb are the old and new version numbers. If in doubt, google the new version number and the words 'eve online client patch'. Only ever download from the official domain, if in doubt, do a whois domain name registry lookup on the domain (cdn1.eveonline.com) The same questions get asked every time we have a new release, no doubt I will be posting this again. That's useful info, cheers. Now why the hell can't CCP either post that in an obvious position somewhere on the patch notes or whatever, or, better still update the actual download link on the main Eve website? _______________________________________________ Top 10 things I hate in these forums. snip -Oi mod
Carli Zandrya	Posted - 2011.06.21 19:50:00 - [939] Originally by: Young Surian Originally by: Morgan Katarn Merrily merrily boat dodges Autocannons fire keeps going down the stream anyway........ Surian merrily carpet bombs the entire region with the boat as center point, dropping three nukes for good measure and evaporates the boat BEEP! BEEEP! BEEP!! Surian wakes up in a pool of his own drool. Surian! Get up already! You'll be late for your troop meet!!
LoTaTiA	Posted - 2011.06.21 19:50:00 - [940] You mean a flying kitchen? lool

Ivanna Nuke Gallente Holders Of The Cowbell	Posted - 2011.06.21 19:50:00 - [941] Originally by: Vengeant Crimson Originally by: Nicole McClane I think we need to build a new women ship You mean a flying kitchen?
Big Business1	Posted - 2011.06.21 19:51:00 - [942] Edited by: Big Business1 on 21/06/2011 19:51:44 Why do you always say this downtime is gonna take XXX hours and then it takes twice as long? Can't you just say something realistic? When did you deploy something in time last time? I think I read: Downtime will begin at 05:00 UTC and is expected to be completed by 17:00 UTC. Did you change that? Next time just take enough time for your deployment, PLEASE... If you tell me it's gonna take 2 days, but then takes only 1 day I wont be mad. But if you say it's gonna take 1 hour and it takes 1 day I will!
Uni fication	Posted - 2011.06.21 19:51:00 - [943] . Originally by: Nell Tu I KNEW I should have queued up skill longer than 7 days.... Could be worse. EVEMON told me just over 2 hours ago that this toon is in the cest pit of trouble. This toon has only 15 hours left on a skill. Got my other toon accounts on longer skills, but forgot about this one. Will they get it up and running so i can download it, install and add a skill to training que before my time runs out ? Not with my luck. .
Zero GodOfDestruction	Posted - 2011.06.21 19:51:00 - [944] Wow, i cannot believe how quickly nerds flip to riot mode after going a couple of hours without eve. Its just amazing, I mean, within the first couple of pages, people were already complaining about the extended downtime. How about everyone who has riled themselves up to the point of verbal threats and common trolling just chill the ** out and let ccp do their **ing jobs. I gaurentee there will be plenty of other crap for you to complain about after this is deployed. You have to realse that pleasing a worldwide group of consumers is not something that can be fixed with one patch, and someone's complaint will get overlooked with so many sending complaints. Just appreciate the good parts and stop splitting hairs to find problems to gripe about. You have driven me to temporarily complain about complaining people, so enjoy the fact that you succeded in at least one pointless objective.
Dako Semi	Posted - 2011.06.21 19:51:00 - [945] Originally by: Ivanna Nuke Originally by: Vengeant Crimson Originally by: Nicole McClane I think we need to build a new women ship You mean a flying kitchen? lol lol
Taja Jolina	Posted - 2011.06.21 19:52:00 - [946] Patch 21 June - ok - add a 4Day .... ahh no better a 9D Skill :)
Young Surian	Posted - 2011.06.21 19:52:00 - [947] Originally by: LoTaTiA I'm sure that ccp has not enough programmers who have experience with 3d graphics .. so awesome eve may be .. Realistically, it is a database game with addon graphics. the current technology is an challenge for even established companys on the market. If any of you seriously thought that "walking on stations" will come soon as they have announced it years ago ... the same who whine about it now that there is only one roomstyle Singular: Company Plural: Companies Just sayin'...
Lord Ryan The IMPERIUM of LaZy NATION	Posted - 2011.06.21 19:53:00 - [948] Originally by: Vengeant Crimson Originally by: Nicole McClane I think we need to build a new women ship You mean a flying kitchen? Found a screenshot of it:
Young Surian	Posted - 2011.06.21 19:55:00 - [949] Originally by: Carli Zandrya Originally by: Young Surian Originally by: Morgan Katarn Merrily merrily boat dodges Autocannons fire keeps going down the stream anyway........ Surian merrily carpet bombs the entire region with the boat as center point, dropping three nukes for good measure and evaporates the boat BEEP! BEEEP! BEEP!! Surian wakes up in a pool of his own drool. Surian! Get up already! You'll be late for your troop meet!! But I don't wannah! Turns around in his bed to keep on sleeping You call me in sick, 'k mommy?
Random27	Posted - 2011.06.21 19:55:00 - [950] Edited by: Random27 on 21/06/2011 19:59:19 Originally by: McBane Originally by: Random27 For future reference for all, the way to figure out the download location and filename is as follows: 1) start your client, it will say incompatible (client) 2) click the button that says 'patch info' 3) Note the from and to version, e.g. 'Patch 267203 to 271273 addresses Patch notes for Incarna' 4) The link to download will be http://cdn1.eveonline.com/evepremiumpatchaaaaaa-bbbbbb_m.exe where aaaaaa and bbbbbb are the old and new version numbers. If in doubt, google the new version number and the words 'eve online client patch'. Only ever download from the official domain, if in doubt, do a whois domain name registry lookup on the domain (cdn1.eveonline.com) The same questions get asked every time we have a new release, no doubt I will be posting this again. That's useful info, cheers. Now why the hell can't CCP either post that in an obvious position somewhere on the patch notes or whatever, or, better still update the actual download link on the main Eve website? At a guess, I would imagine that they don't make this info public because the patch may not be final (i.e. you might brick your installation and need to re-download the full client if they pull it change it at the very last moment). This has never happened. Yet. Note also, that they probably don't want their bandwidth hammered by downloaders before they are ready, just in case they end up having to fix problems on the game servers, and the web servers at the same time. As a professional software dev myself (in RL), I can fully sympathise with CCP. Things get done in the amount of time it takes to do them, regardless of deadlines. Sometimes you get lucky, and hit one... oh, and a hint for the devs, if any are listening in... If your database updates are taking a long time, try disabling any secondary indexes and rebuilding them after you've finished your bulk insert/update routines.

LoTaTiA	Posted - 2011.06.21 19:55:00 - [951] Singular: Company Plural: Companies Just sayin'... thanks dude not my language
Tango Cainne TERRIBLE EMO ALTS REGIME	Posted - 2011.06.21 19:57:00 - [952] Originally by: Oisin Sandovar Originally by: Nicole McClane I think we need to build a new women ship There is one, it's called a freighter! It just doesn't come with shoe trees. You'll need Aurum for that! There should be a new women ship that epitomizes everything they're doing with CQ that can house all the stuff that gets paid for with Aurum. It needs it's own ship category... so that I can sort my overview for it and prepare to gank the first one I see undocking in Dodixie.
Herbalistick	Posted - 2011.06.21 19:59:00 - [953] eve shhmeve, downtime shhmowntime
Dako Semi	Posted - 2011.06.21 20:00:00 - [954] Originally by: Lord Ryan Originally by: Vengeant Crimson Originally by: Nicole McClane I think we need to build a new women ship You mean a flying kitchen? Found a screenshot of it: Lets make it a bit eve realistic.
Hicksimus	Posted - 2011.06.21 20:01:00 - [955] Even though I see the reasoning for CQ and personally find it adds a nice touch to the game I think that with so many balance issues CCP should be doing more than just constantly nerfing nullsec. Don't take that wrong, I live there and I've always found it pays me too well and still does so it's a step in the right direction but what about..... Lowsec being more like npc nullsec(No sec status issues, only dictor bubbles, bombs and no super carriers or at least limit their drones) but with slightly better rats. That would improve the EvE experience of so many people. Balancing small sig radius ships, big guns and missiles don't bother them but neuts work to maximum effect and so does logi. Scale them all so for example a wolf can't have the tank of 4 T3's when a logi ship shows it love, and a domi can't shut down an entire cruiser fleet. Gate tennis? Put the same limitation on gate jumping as wormholes. It doesn't improve game experience to have a ship like a drake being completely un-killable on a gate because it can just hop til you get bored or placement gives it a lucky escape. Little things like that would make EvE so much more fun for everybody. Things like "Tech II ship names now show the name, role, and hull on their descriptions." is a bit over the top when so many others things could really use work. -Hicksimus
Nicole McClane	Posted - 2011.06.21 20:02:00 - [956] Originally by: Tango Cainne Originally by: Oisin Sandovar Originally by: Nicole McClane I think we need to build a new women ship There is one, it's called a freighter! It just doesn't come with shoe trees. You'll need Aurum for that! There should be a new women ship that epitomizes everything they're doing with CQ that can house all the stuff that gets paid for with Aurum. It needs it's own ship category... so that I can sort my overview for it and prepare to gank the first one I see undocking in Dodixie. you will shoot at my new shoes
LoTaTiA	Posted - 2011.06.21 20:02:00 - [957] the new maller style really looks nice, dont you think so? this should be worth a day downtime
Rigamrts	Posted - 2011.06.21 20:04:00 - [958] Originally by: Dako Semi Originally by: Lord Ryan Originally by: Vengeant Crimson Originally by: Nicole McClane I think we need to build a new women ship You mean a flying kitchen? Found a screenshot of it: Lets make it a bit eve realistic. to be more realistic i couldn't post a pic of the women's ship
KilABitcH	Posted - 2011.06.21 20:04:00 - [959] Does Sisi suffer from bad lag? I just tried the new walking in station there and my PC slows right down (unplayable) - it just cant handle the graphics of it. Will this be the same in TQ as I have 3 accounts and I have a feeling I am not going to be able to play with one let alone 3 :(
amego Caldari	Posted - 2011.06.21 20:05:00 - [960] auto cannon mallers unite!! the enemy will be so busy oogling you they will forget to shoot

DoAe Caldari Omega Engineering Inc.	Posted - 2011.06.21 20:05:00 - [961] Is mallers gonna be the new omfgwtfpwnnanomomkillers now with the new graphics and such? Or are they still a pig with a new makeup? ;P Founder of Chasing Shadows Inc
Random27	Posted - 2011.06.21 20:07:00 - [962] Originally by: Nicole McClane Originally by: Tango Cainne Originally by: Oisin Sandovar Originally by: Nicole McClane I think we need to build a new women ship There is one, it's called a freighter! It just doesn't come with shoe trees. You'll need Aurum for that! There should be a new women ship that epitomizes everything they're doing with CQ that can house all the stuff that gets paid for with Aurum. It needs it's own ship category... so that I can sort my overview for it and prepare to gank the first one I see undocking in Dodixie. you will shoot at my new shoes Maybe some more of these? http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Gold_Magnate
Morgan Katarn	Posted - 2011.06.21 20:09:00 - [963] ah screw this iam going to bed to damn tired
Random27	Posted - 2011.06.21 20:10:00 - [964] Originally by: DoAe Is mallers gonna be the new omfgwtfpwnnanomomkillers now with the new graphics and such? Or are they still a pig with a new makeup? ;P Hey, at least they're not a Diemost.
Young Surian	Posted - 2011.06.21 20:11:00 - [965] Originally by: Morgan Katarn ah screw this iam going to bed to damn tired You're just rage-logging because I sank your boat. ADMIT IT!
Toshiko Kin Amarr Suddenly Ninjas	Posted - 2011.06.21 20:11:00 - [966] Originally by: Random27 At a guess, I would imagine that they don't make this info public because the patch may not be final (i.e. you might brick your installation and need to re-download the full client if they pull it change it at the very last moment). This has never happened. Yet. Note also, that they probably don't want their bandwidth hammered by downloaders before they are ready, just in case they end up having to fix problems on the game servers, and the web servers at the same time. As a professional software dev myself (in RL), I can fully sympathise with CCP. Things get done in the amount of time it takes to do them, regardless of deadlines. Sometimes you get lucky, and hit one... As a professional software dev you really think they are going to fix and recompile a patch for two platforms at the last moment and send those out the door without testing? Really? (Although that thought did cross my mind, before i thought, 'Really?!?') It would seem to me that having the patch available for download before the server goes live could deaden the bandwidth spike on the system at launch to some degree. I can see that they would be afraid of folks screwing up their installs though by not knowing what they are doing and then just downloading the full client, which would be more bandwidth used than necessary... but then it would be nice if the client could do the auto patch while the server was offline too.
Hanz Plaude	Posted - 2011.06.21 20:12:00 - [967] Originally by: Hicksimus ...Balancing small sig radius ships, big guns and missiles don't bother them but neuts work to maximum effect and so does logi. Scale them all so for example a wolf can't have the tank of 4 T3's when a logi ship shows it love, and a domi can't shut down an entire cruiser fleet... -Hicksimus A wolf can't do as much damage as a significantly bigger ship, can it? many cruisers move fast enough that a domi either has to spend slots to decrease lock time, or can't neut for a pretty reasonable amount of time... I'm not really seeing what is unbalanced here... (?) not to mention you could take out the logi...
Morgan Katarn	Posted - 2011.06.21 20:12:00 - [968] you did not sank my boat it used its improbobillty drive to turn your bombs into funny stuff
Herbalistick	Posted - 2011.06.21 20:13:00 - [969] I'm not sleeping until i've downloaded this pish
Adrian Dixon	Posted - 2011.06.21 20:14:00 - [970] Edited by: Adrian Dixon on 21/06/2011 20:15:39 Wow the new login screen is awesome Wish it was my desktop. Cant wait to play

Morgan Katarn	Posted - 2011.06.21 20:15:00 - [971] Ive got to go to bike shop early tommorow to see if they can do something to my bike or i have to buy a new one my bike is ten years old and starting to look that too
Adrie Atticus Tactical Vendor of Services and Goods Partners of Industrial Service and Salvage	Posted - 2011.06.21 20:15:00 - [972] Originally by: Lazureus Falcone Edited by: Lazureus Falcone on 21/06/2011 19:07:23 Edited by: Lazureus Falcone on 21/06/2011 19:07:13 Originally by: Nilt Originally by: Lee Anderson hmm i see your probs trolling care to show us the speed you got? click here and then copy and past reply with your speed, i think your lieing Here's mine. --> http://www.speedtest.net/result/1351508597.png Mine only took 6 or 7 minutes. It's good have decent internet. You guys should try the test again and do in from the Reykjavic servers. Now here's one from my local area: cdn1.eveonline.com resolves into France, I don't know where you got the idea of doing a speedtest to Iceland:D
Drew442 Caldari None More Negative	Posted - 2011.06.21 20:16:00 - [973] Originally by: Oisin Sandovar Originally by: Nicole McClane I think we need to build a new women ship There is one, it's called a freighter! It just doesn't come with shoe trees. You'll need Aurum for that! Best. Post. Ever.
Xuxa Meneguel	Posted - 2011.06.21 20:16:00 - [974] Let's Dance the ILARILARIE OH OH OH !! come on everyone !! ILARILARIE OH OH OH !!
Linda Smithson	Posted - 2011.06.21 20:17:00 - [975] Originally by: Drew442 Originally by: Oisin Sandovar Originally by: Nicole McClane I think we need to build a new women ship There is one, it's called a freighter! It just doesn't come with shoe trees. You'll need Aurum for that! Best. Post. Ever. I'm pretty sure those need a high slot. So, No dice.
Lord Ryan The IMPERIUM of LaZy NATION	Posted - 2011.06.21 20:17:00 - [976] Originally by: LoTaTiA the new maller style really looks nice, dont you think so? this should be worth a day downtime I love my sac, but I'm still excited about the new look. Only good part of this expansion. Here is a picture of my sac if your interested.
Advocatus Diablo	Posted - 2011.06.21 20:19:00 - [977] Are CCP serious?? The counter have been on zero for hours and we are still waiting?? http://www.eveonline.com/en/incarna IMO Epic fail
Random27	Posted - 2011.06.21 20:19:00 - [978] Originally by: Toshiko Kin Originally by: Random27 At a guess, I would imagine that they don't make this info public because the patch may not be final (i.e. you might brick your installation and need to re-download the full client if they pull it change it at the very last moment). This has never happened. Yet. Note also, that they probably don't want their bandwidth hammered by downloaders before they are ready, just in case they end up having to fix problems on the game servers, and the web servers at the same time. As a professional software dev myself (in RL), I can fully sympathise with CCP. Things get done in the amount of time it takes to do them, regardless of deadlines. Sometimes you get lucky, and hit one... As a professional software dev you really think they are going to fix and recompile a patch for two platforms at the last moment and send those out the door without testing? Really? (Although that thought did cross my mind, before i thought, 'Really?!?') It would seem to me that having the patch available for download before the server goes live could deaden the bandwidth spike on the system at launch to some degree. I can see that they would be afraid of folks screwing up their installs though by not knowing what they are doing and then just downloading the full client, which would be more bandwidth used than necessary... but then it would be nice if the client could do the auto patch while the server was offline too. I'm sure they have their reasons for not officially releasing the patch until they are ready. They might want to do a rollback at the last minute if they have a server foul up, for instance, at which point anyone who had applied the patch would be stuck with the incorrect version. These things do, unfortunately, occasionally happen no matter how well you plan things. Anyhoo, the server has just rebooted by the looks of it, shouldn't be long now..
Young Surian	Posted - 2011.06.21 20:20:00 - [979] Originally by: Xuxa Meneguel Let's Dance the ILARILARIE OH OH OH !! come on everyone !! ILARILARIE OH OH OH !! What's an ILARILARIE?
Hathssethlyth	Posted - 2011.06.21 20:20:00 - [980] Where da patch? Me want play. Me want play NOW.

Morgan Katarn	Posted - 2011.06.21 20:21:00 - [981] just another 5 hours
ashton wiler	Posted - 2011.06.21 20:21:00 - [982] Edited by: ashton wiler on 21/06/2011 20:24:52 page 6 in this forum has the link to download the new patch. Takes about 40 min to download it. For those that are wanting to download it before the server comes back up in about 3 hours unless they extend the downtime again. 3rd time they changed it today so probably going to be about 5 hours before it come back up. Glad i put on a long skill to train lol
Lord Ryan The IMPERIUM of LaZy NATION	Posted - 2011.06.21 20:22:00 - [983] Originally by: Morgan Katarn just another 5 DAYS Fixed it
Toshiko Kin Amarr Suddenly Ninjas	Posted - 2011.06.21 20:23:00 - [984] Originally by: Random27 They might want to do a rollback at the last minute if they have a server foul up, for instance, at which point anyone who had applied the patch would be stuck with the incorrect version. These things do, unfortunately, occasionally happen no matter how well you plan things. That, is the best reason I've heard for it. Surprised I didn't come up with it myself... ;) (But I always backup the install/prefs before patching so it wouldn't kill me if that happened.) Oh well, little more than 30 mins out. fingers crossed
eaterofcheese FACTION Inc.	Posted - 2011.06.21 20:23:00 - [985] Originally by: Random27 Anyhoo, the server has just rebooted by the looks of it, shouldn't be long now.. Er, "We expect to open Tranquility to the players at 23:30 UTC." Bugger. -- mmmm cheese...
authon	Posted - 2011.06.21 20:23:00 - [986] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sUSN7fqVBio
Nixara Calais	Posted - 2011.06.21 20:24:00 - [987] Why isn't the patch up yet? Is it broken already? This is hard, I don't get it. I'm confused.
Japanx Caldari Bull-Ets	Posted - 2011.06.21 20:25:00 - [988] Originally by: Young Surian Originally by: Xuxa Meneguel Let's Dance the ILARILARIE OH OH OH !! come on everyone !! ILARILARIE OH OH OH !! What's an ILARILARIE? Year 1990. Ilarie Minute 1:18 Japanx
Morgan Katarn	Posted - 2011.06.21 20:26:00 - [989] while we wait some fun flash http://www.pown.it/1199 http://www.pown.it/3850 http://www.pown.it/3109 Enjoy
Teers Artasti 24th Imperial Crusade	Posted - 2011.06.21 20:26:00 - [990] Mine only took around 6 mins to DL. --- "I quote myself for teh lulz." - Teers Artasti

Luka SLO	Posted - 2011.06.21 20:26:00 - [991] Originally by: authon http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sUSN7fqVBio Ahhh...good times
Cobra Gaterau	Posted - 2011.06.21 20:27:00 - [992] Originally by: ashton wiler Edited by: ashton wiler on 21/06/2011 20:24:52 page 6 in this forum has the link to download the new patch. Takes about 40 min to download it. For those that are wanting to download it before the server comes back up in about 3 hours unless they extend the downtime again. 3rd time they changed it today so probably going to be about 5 hours before it come back up. Glad i put on a long skill to train lol Only way it would take 40 minutes is if my computer started smoking the ganja man
Random27	Posted - 2011.06.21 20:28:00 - [993] Originally by: eaterofcheese Originally by: Random27 Anyhoo, the server has just rebooted by the looks of it, shouldn't be long now... Er, "We expect to open Tranquility to the players at 23:30 UTC." Bugger. Oh bums. That's UTC as well, so 3 hours off. Guess I'll go and read for a bit then...
Teers Artasti 24th Imperial Crusade	Posted - 2011.06.21 20:29:00 - [994] Originally by: Random27 Originally by: eaterofcheese Originally by: Random27 Anyhoo, the server has just rebooted by the looks of it, shouldn't be long now... Er, "We expect to open Tranquility to the players at 23:30 UTC." Bugger. Oh bums. That's UTC as well, so 3 hours off. Guess I'll go and read for a bit then... Thats 1 hour, me thinks. --- "I quote myself for teh lulz." - Teers Artasti
Hathssethlyth	Posted - 2011.06.21 20:29:00 - [995] You don't understand. I said NOW. intense stare
Young Surian	Posted - 2011.06.21 20:29:00 - [996] Originally by: Morgan Katarn while we wait some fun flash http://www.pown.it/1199 http://www.pown.it/3850 http://www.pown.it/3109 Enjoy +1
Yougeki	Posted - 2011.06.21 20:30:00 - [997] The new intro looks pretty sharp :)
Jurann Gallente Panserbjorne Unlimited	Posted - 2011.06.21 20:30:00 - [998] Originally by: Hanz Plaude A wolf can't do as much damage as a significantly bigger ship, can it? many cruisers move fast enough that a domi either has to spend slots to decrease lock time, or can't neut for a pretty reasonable amount of time... I'm not really seeing what is unbalanced here... (?) not to mention you could take out the logi...[/quote With the right fit and the right pilot, a Wolf can do a heap of DPS and is virtually unable to be hit by larger ships. It's not uncommon at all for me to hop in a Wolf solo to down BS rats in null. It's resist/tanky enough to take a few hits here and there or fend off any frigs/cruisers while you get in orbit around a BS to play dodgeball. Now in PvP the Wolf isn't as resilient and it's DPS is far less significant, but it's not uncommon to see a solo Wolf bring down a cruiser or three...
Luka SLO	Posted - 2011.06.21 20:30:00 - [999] Originally by: Random27 Originally by: eaterofcheese Originally by: Random27 Anyhoo, the server has just rebooted by the looks of it, shouldn't be long now... Er, "We expect to open Tranquility to the players at 23:30 UTC." Bugger. Oh bums. That's UTC as well, so 3 hours off. Guess I'll go and read for a bit then... ...guess I'll go watch paint to dry ....kidding.....not
Hecate Lamia	Posted - 2011.06.21 20:31:00 - [1000] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sUSN7fqVBio He too is waiting for the server to come back. I understand he forgot to update his skill queue too.

Nicole McClane	Posted - 2011.06.21 20:31:00 - [1001] Originally by: Linda Smithson Originally by: Drew442 Originally by: Oisin Sandovar Originally by: Nicole McClane I think we need to build a new women ship There is one, it's called a freighter! It just doesn't come with shoe trees. You'll need Aurum for that! Best. Post. Ever. I'm pretty sure those need a high slot. So, No dice. **** ... I need a freighter with high slots for my high heels Just seen on singularity ... she is walking in high heels over the grid on the floor ... she had the balance
Tulonium	Posted - 2011.06.21 20:31:00 - [1002] Edited by: Tulonium on 21/06/2011 20:33:36 Originally by: FeaNoR l никто не в курсе сколько еще примерно будет лежать сервер?) Он будет лежать до 01:30 по Москве. Поправка: Новое сообщение - лежать будет до 03:30 ))) Короче, спать идти надо!
Adrian Dixon	Posted - 2011.06.21 20:32:00 - [1003] Edited by: Adrian Dixon on 21/06/2011 20:32:36 http://i.imgur.com/57sTJ.jpg
Traeste Aireth	Posted - 2011.06.21 20:33:00 - [1004] INCARNA - COMING JUNE 22nd
Helen Gaterau	Posted - 2011.06.21 20:33:00 - [1005] oh dear 23.30 now. Like people have suggested, a promise of complementary SP would be nice and would stop people complaining so much, or even some Isk. One guy argue 'your player is still training while offline' fair point but what about the isk and standings we could have earned in the 16 hours we are not able to play?
Hasura Shi	Posted - 2011.06.21 20:33:00 - [1006] They might even end up rectifying the the release date on Incarna, might be the 22nd of June.
eaterofcheese FACTION Inc.	Posted - 2011.06.21 20:33:00 - [1007] Originally by: Teers Artasti Thats 1 hour, me thinks. 21:30 UTC extended to 23:30 UTC is a 2 hr difference. As it happens, I am in the UK - UTC+1 during summer. The local time for me will be 00:30 and I will be Asleep. Something to look forward to when I rise then :) -- mmmm cheese...
Sgt Jessa Hakaari	Posted - 2011.06.21 20:33:00 - [1008] Almost a full day of time to load this release. 23:30 UTC, should be back from work about this time. Joke: Three guys sitting on a bridge during lunchtime, A mexican, an italian and a redneck Mexican opens his luchbox and says "damn, Tacos again, if I have tacos tomorrow I will jump to my death. Italian opens his lunchbox and says "carp, spaghetti again, if I have spaghetti tomorrow I will jump to my death" Redneck opens his lunchbox and says "what the help, bologna sandwhiches again, if I have bologna sandwhiches again tomorrow I am gonna jump to my death" Next day luch time comes and they all sit on the edge of the bridge again, Mexican opens his lunchbox and it is tacos, he leaps to his death. Italian opens his lunchbox and itsa spaghetti, he leaps to his death. Redneck opens his lunchbox and its bologna sandwhiches, he too leaps to his death. A week later at the funeral all three wives are standing close to each other sobbing. The mexicans wife says "If I knew he had wanted something else, I would have made it." The Italian wife says, "Yes, me too, if he wanted something different I would have also made him anything he wanted." They both look at the rednecks wife who exclaims "Dont look at me, that idiot made his own luches!"
Vala Malderran	Posted - 2011.06.21 20:34:00 - [1009] INCARNA - COMING JUNE 23!..
BamBam's	Posted - 2011.06.21 20:34:00 - [1010] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tt_jpEBPTCQ

Advocatus Diablo	Posted - 2011.06.21 20:34:00 - [1011] Disappointing CCP, just plain disapointing... 23:30???? Well my response to this is I am done paying real money for this bull**** I'll do the ISK-PLEX mambo from now on. Upset?? H*ll yes I am upset!!!! If I hadn't paid REAL money, maybe I wouldn't be as upset. But we will see U r not getting a single REAL dollar from me for quite a while and lets see how you like it! Out of respect for you customers you seriously need to consider some serious compensation, u r like 5 hours delayed!!!! U get an effin Pizza free if delivery is 30 minutes late! Very very disappointed (maybe even former) CCP customer
Ptraci	Posted - 2011.06.21 20:35:00 - [1012] Originally by: Traeste Aireth INCARNA - COMING JUNE 22nd Maybe even June 23rd :)
Carli Zandrya	Posted - 2011.06.21 20:35:00 - [1013] Edited by: Carli Zandrya on 21/06/2011 20:36:38 LOL I love you people **************in other news! EvE -->online<-- I N C A R N A STEP FOOT INTO CAPTAIN'S QUARTERS AVAILABLE NOW** I call Shenanigans!!
Nicole McClane	Posted - 2011.06.21 20:36:00 - [1014] Originally by: Vala Malderran INCARNA - COMING JUNE 23!.. hehe ooohhh ... skill training - only 13 days left
Annabella Terra	Posted - 2011.06.21 20:36:00 - [1015] Originally by: Traeste Aireth INCARNA - COMING JUNE 22nd If we get lucky
Rhye Caldari	Posted - 2011.06.21 20:37:00 - [1016] Originally by: Advocatus Diablo Disappointing CCP, just plain disapointing... 23:30???? Well my response to this is I am done paying real money for this bull**** I'll do the ISK-PLEX mambo from now on. Upset?? H*ll yes I am upset!!!! If I hadn't paid REAL money, maybe I wouldn't be as upset. But we will see U r not getting a single REAL dollar from me for quite a while and lets see how you like it! Out of respect for you customers you seriously need to consider some serious compensation, u r like 5 hours delayed!!!! U get an effin Pizza free if delivery is 30 minutes late! Very very disappointed (maybe even former) CCP customer Hahahah. 1.) Even if you are doing the "ISK-PLEX Mambo", someone else is still paying "real dollar". 2.) How can it be this hard to survive half a day without EVE? That's just plain sad. Take my advice, quit.
Lucky McClane	Posted - 2011.06.21 20:38:00 - [1017] Originally by: Annabella Terra Originally by: Traeste Aireth INCARNA - COMING JUNE 22nd If we get lucky I am here
eaterofcheese FACTION Inc.	Posted - 2011.06.21 20:38:00 - [1018] Originally by: Advocatus Diablo Well my response to this is I am done paying real money for this bull**** If you pay 14.5 euros or equivalent per month, a day without EvE equals a loss of 0.48 Euoros. Pah, not even the price of a half cup of coffee. Perspective, people :) -- mmmm cheese...
RemyHansen Amarr Immortalis Inc.	Posted - 2011.06.21 20:38:00 - [1019] whine whine whine and more whine......... Keep up the good work CCP thanks for adding another free expansion ;)
Hecate Lamia	Posted - 2011.06.21 20:38:00 - [1020] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YersIyzsOpc&feature=list_related&playnext=1&list=PL5F1670E2700E0720 1:10 WTF? Dont have kids, ever.

Amar Azaph	Posted - 2011.06.21 20:38:00 - [1021] Nice thing about working in San Francisco is being able to go to work, then head home to an updated patch- no time lost Sent from a campfire using smoke signals.
Rigamrts	Posted - 2011.06.21 20:39:00 - [1022] this guys waiting for the server to come up too
CARB0N FIBER	Posted - 2011.06.21 20:39:00 - [1023] Originally by: Ptraci Originally by: Traeste Aireth INCARNA - COMING JUNE 22nd Maybe even June 23rd :) July 21st. Horrible business, great game.
Morgan Katarn	Posted - 2011.06.21 20:39:00 - [1024] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tweUF7juG4c badger badger badger badger
Cobra Gaterau	Posted - 2011.06.21 20:39:00 - [1025] Originally by: Carli Zandrya Edited by: Carli Zandrya on 21/06/2011 20:36:38 LOL I love you people **************in other news! EvE -->online<-- I N C A R N A STEP FOOT INTO CAPTAIN'S QUARTERS AVAILABLE NOW** I call Shenanigans!! Loved that episode
Carli Zandrya	Posted - 2011.06.21 20:40:00 - [1026] Originally by: Advocatus Diablo Disappointing CCP, just plain disapointing... 23:30???? Well my response to this is I am done paying real money for this bull**** I'll do the ISK-PLEX mambo from now on. Upset?? H*ll yes I am upset!!!! If I hadn't paid REAL money, maybe I wouldn't be as upset. But we will see U r not getting a single REAL dollar from me for quite a while and lets see how you like it! Out of respect for you customers you seriously need to consider some serious compensation, u r like 5 hours delayed!!!! U get an effin Pizza free if delivery is 30 minutes late! Very very disappointed (maybe even former) CCP customer Either your /ragequitting or your not? Can I have your stuff that your 50ó a day got you?
Mendicant Bias	Posted - 2011.06.21 20:40:00 - [1027] Originally by: Advocatus Diablo Disappointing CCP, just plain disapointing... 23:30???? Well my response to this is I am done paying real money for this bull**** I'll do the ISK-PLEX mambo from now on. Upset?? H*ll yes I am upset!!!! If I hadn't paid REAL money, maybe I wouldn't be as upset. But we will see U r not getting a single REAL dollar from me for quite a while and lets see how you like it! Out of respect for you customers you seriously need to consider some serious compensation, u r like 5 hours delayed!!!! U get an effin Pizza free if delivery is 30 minutes late! Very very disappointed (maybe even former) CCP customer Lmao. If nobody saw this coming then please, stfu.
Random27	Posted - 2011.06.21 20:40:00 - [1028] Originally by: Teers Artasti Originally by: Random27 Originally by: eaterofcheese Originally by: Random27 Anyhoo, the server has just rebooted by the looks of it, shouldn't be long now... Er, "We expect to open Tranquility to the players at 23:30 UTC." Bugger. Oh bums. That's UTC as well, so 3 hours off. Guess I'll go and read for a bit then... Thats 1 hour, me thinks. 23:30 UTC = 00:30 BST, no? It's currently 21:38 BST... :-(
clitheroica	Posted - 2011.06.21 20:42:00 - [1029] juuusssst a small town girl...
CARB0N FIBER	Posted - 2011.06.21 20:42:00 - [1030] Originally by: RemyHansen whine whine whine and more whine......... Keep up the good work CCP thanks for adding another free expansion ;) Slurp-slurp

Gabriel Grimoire Amarr Ascendent. Gentlemen's Agreement	Posted - 2011.06.21 20:42:00 - [1031] Originally by: Advocatus Diablo Disappointing CCP, just plain disapointing... 23:30???? Well my response to this is I am done paying real money for this bull**** I'll do the ISK-PLEX mambo from now on. Upset?? H*ll yes I am upset!!!! If I hadn't paid REAL money, maybe I wouldn't be as upset. But we will see U r not getting a single REAL dollar from me for quite a while and lets see how you like it! Out of respect for you customers you seriously need to consider some serious compensation, u r like 5 hours delayed!!!! U get an effin Pizza free if delivery is 30 minutes late! Very very disappointed (maybe even former) CCP customer Loling so hard in RL at this right now. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Leonard T. Washington gets buck naked for no man.
Sally Cynocyde	Posted - 2011.06.21 20:42:00 - [1032] Originally by: Jurann With the right fit and the right pilot, a Wolf can do a heap of DPS and is virtually unable to be hit by larger ships. Ok but isn't that kind of the point of being an "assault ship" I mean what good is an "assault ship" that can't assault stuff? Webs, neuts, drones, assault launchers, precision missiles, ecm will mess up assault frigs badly so there are plenty of things that spell near instant death for an assault frig already. AF's are very balanced. If players fit their pvp cruisers/hacs/recons properly a solo dram or AF won't just LOLPWN them.
Morgan Katarn	Posted - 2011.06.21 20:42:00 - [1033] Incarna comming 21th june in the year 25252525
Ghost Slyna FanVettja	Posted - 2011.06.21 20:42:00 - [1034] I fell I'm really blessed that I can sit and watch on all the emo-rage =) This forum thread makes up for every bit of downtime that could be thrown my way =) I have my drinks ready and popcorn popped, just spamming F5 to see the next hilarious response =)
Demonfuge Malevolent	Posted - 2011.06.21 20:42:00 - [1035] Yep, looks like Eve Online will only be open to Americans today :)
HaKyung	Posted - 2011.06.21 20:44:00 - [1036] 20:20 Downtime is now expected to last until 23:30 UTC due to the additional server updates. The patch is already being patched. Weak.
Lord Ryan The IMPERIUM of LaZy NATION	Posted - 2011.06.21 20:44:00 - [1037] Originally by: Demonfuge Malevolent Yep, looks like Eve Online will only be open to Americans today :) Thank God tired of all these posh bastrads anyways
Young Surian	Posted - 2011.06.21 20:44:00 - [1038] PIE!
pctweaker	Posted - 2011.06.21 20:45:00 - [1039] EVE Online: Incarna 1.0 is currently being deployed. Database updates took longer than expected, and have performed additional updates to a level one mission arc. This has resulted in an extended downtime. We expect to open Tranquility to the players at 23:30 UTC. Thank you for your understanding. LOL
wolftkilla	Posted - 2011.06.21 20:45:00 - [1040] I think you'll find it is, Incarna due, 22nd of june :) And Tbh, I was chatting with my corp, before this shizz, I even said, whatever they quote add at least 3+ hours to it...

Amar Azaph	Posted - 2011.06.21 20:46:00 - [1041] Originally by: Demonfuge Malevolent Yep, looks like Eve Online will only be open to Americans today :) Heading for some lunch, few hours of cubicle hell after that, then back for the new patch Sent from a campfire using smoke signals.
General Windypops The Littlest Hobos En Garde	Posted - 2011.06.21 20:47:00 - [1042] Server's up, folks. Enjoy! CSM 6: Let's get Windypops indypops.
Vanthor	Posted - 2011.06.21 20:47:00 - [1043] Why do people whine about this? This has happened every single time they have ever done a patch. They always overrun - i think we should start placing bets on the time they finally settle on.
DarkestHeart	Posted - 2011.06.21 20:47:00 - [1044] CCP, No doubt you wont read this reponse, much like many responses whom mirror the same thoughts and feelings as my own. I've been playing tihs game for around 7 years now, and every single time a major update comes out it is delayed. Before it used to be a small number of hours and I didnt mind, but this is just getting longer and longer with each update. I am absolutely disgusted that a company in such a competitive market feels that its good conduct to treat their customers this way. I work as an IT Consultant, and if I was late or didn't keep my word, my word would very fast become worthless. CCP, you know people will continue to play your game, and so you feel that treating paying customers in this manner is ok. Not only is it poor business practice but it's wrong. Just an example, I setup a skill to run which would allow me enough time to log back into the game in the two hours free I get per day, after DT and set another skill. Because of this delay that wont happen, thus I will be missing out on a full days worth of skill training. Just to ensure that you get the point, this isnt just about losing skill times, I'm paying a good amount of money, more so than most other MMORPG's, and my gametime is being taken away because of your inability to stick to your word and do your jobs properly. If you are not going to be able to get an update out by the time you say, then you must start to factor this into your estimations. I would rather you say that servers will be down from 07:00 till 23:30 (and we all know it will be later than that) compared to 17:00, and then bump it forwards every hour or so. Most people at a very young age learn how to manage their time and learn that sticking to your word is very important in life, and you, CCP, are acting like a teenager whom ignores both. I am truly dissapointed in how this business is being run and your treatment of customers is negligent. DH
Young Surian	Posted - 2011.06.21 20:48:00 - [1045] Only for those who eat, drink and **** EVE.
Kerr avonn Minmatar	Posted - 2011.06.21 20:49:00 - [1046] We expect to open Tranquility to the players at 23:30 UTC Let the tears and tantrums begin. hahaha HTFU little biatches. I have Internet racing cars to keep me amused, I'll check back here periodically for lulz
Sonic Sue Minmatar	Posted - 2011.06.21 20:49:00 - [1047] Best post so far. Posted - 2011.06.21 20:33:00 - [1008] - QuoteReport -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Almost a full day of time to load this release. 23:30 UTC, should be back from work about this time. Joke: Three guys sitting on a bridge during lunchtime, A mexican, an italian and a redneck Mexican opens his luchbox and says "damn, Tacos again, if I have tacos tomorrow I will jump to my death. Italian opens his lunchbox and says "carp, spaghetti again, if I have spaghetti tomorrow I will jump to my death" Redneck opens his lunchbox and says "what the help, bologna sandwhiches again, if I have bologna sandwhiches again tomorrow I am gonna jump to my death" Next day luch time comes and they all sit on the edge of the bridge again, Mexican opens his lunchbox and it is tacos, he leaps to his death. Italian opens his lunchbox and itsa spaghetti, he leaps to his death. Redneck opens his lunchbox and its bologna sandwhiches, he too leaps to his death. A week later at the funeral all three wives are standing close to each other sobbing. The mexicans wife says "If I knew he had wanted something else, I would have made it." The Italian wife says, "Yes, me too, if he wanted something different I would have also made him anything he wanted." They both look at the rednecks wife who exclaims "Dont look at me, that idiot made his own luches!" More More
Kalpel Caldari United Systems of the Allegiance Important Internet Spaceship League	Posted - 2011.06.21 20:49:00 - [1048] We expect to open Tranquility to the players at 23:30 UTC. when you click the highlighted "more..." it still says 21:30 UTC. LOL
Teers Artasti 24th Imperial Crusade	Posted - 2011.06.21 20:50:00 - [1049] Edited by: Teers Artasti on 21/06/2011 20:51:50 Edited by: Teers Artasti on 21/06/2011 20:50:12 Originally by: Rigamrts this guys waiting for the server to come up too MEE TOO!!! (Not really, already got the patch...) --- "I quote myself for teh lulz." - Teers Artasti
Morgan Katarn	Posted - 2011.06.21 20:50:00 - [1050] a friend of mine from eve asked on facebook asking if its up yet and i wroth no its flacid

Nilt	Posted - 2011.06.21 20:50:00 - [1051] Edited by: Nilt on 21/06/2011 20:51:22 Originally by: Demonfuge Malevolent Yep, looks like Eve Online will only be open to Americans today :) If we're lucky. Edit: Such is life in MMOs, though. heads back to reading a book
Frederick Yassavi	Posted - 2011.06.21 20:50:00 - [1052] Originally by: Advocatus Diablo Disappointing CCP, just plain disapointing... 23:30???? Well my response to this is I am done paying real money for this bull**** I'll do the ISK-PLEX mambo from now on. Upset?? H*ll yes I am upset!!!! If I hadn't paid REAL money, maybe I wouldn't be as upset. But we will see U r not getting a single REAL dollar from me for quite a while and lets see how you like it! Out of respect for you customers you seriously need to consider some serious compensation, u r like 5 hours delayed!!!! U get an effin Pizza free if delivery is 30 minutes late! Very very disappointed (maybe even former) CCP customer Once again, math is our friend. If the servers are up at 23:30, the deployment will have consumed 16.5 hours of your total monthly EVE time. There are 720 hours in July. This gives us a quotient of 0.023 (rounded). In percentage terms, 2.3% of your total EVE time is thus consumed. Given $15 per month - and just for the sake of this conversation - they have cost you 34.5 (35) cents USD. Note that, in return, you're getting a bunch of content at no greater monthly cost than any other month. So you have a few options: 1. Rage quit over 35 cents. 2. Demand that CCP compensate you for your 35 cents. 3. Work hard in your virtual life so as to afford PLEX every month. 4. Quit being such an ingrate.
Katey Younger	Posted - 2011.06.21 20:51:00 - [1053] 20:20 Downtime is now expected to last until 23:30 UTC due to the additional server updates. what can I say seems its going to be a long nite with sh*te on the telly
TiggerTime NED-Clan Goonswarm Federation	Posted - 2011.06.21 20:51:00 - [1054] Edited by: TiggerTime on 21/06/2011 20:54:14 Edited by: TiggerTime on 21/06/2011 20:52:26 Originally by: DarkestHeart CCP, No doubt you wont read this reponse, much like many responses whom mirror the same thoughts and feelings as my own. I've been playing tihs game for around 7 years now, and every single time a major update comes out it is delayed. Before it used to be a small number of hours and I didnt mind, but this is just getting longer and longer with each update. I am absolutely disgusted that a company in such a competitive market feels that its good conduct to treat their customers this way. I work as an IT Consultant, and if I was late or didn't keep my word, my word would very fast become worthless. CCP, you know people will continue to play your game, and so you feel that treating paying customers in this manner is ok. Not only is it poor business practice but it's wrong. Just an example, I setup a skill to run which would allow me enough time to log back into the game in the two hours free I get per day, after DT and set another skill. Because of this delay that wont happen, thus I will be missing out on a full days worth of skill training. Just to ensure that you get the point, this isnt just about losing skill times, I'm paying a good amount of money, more so than most other MMORPG's, and my gametime is being taken away because of your inability to stick to your word and do your jobs properly. If you are not going to be able to get an update out by the time you say, then you must start to factor this into your estimations. I would rather you say that servers will be down from 07:00 till 23:30 (and we all know it will be later than that) compared to 17:00, and then bump it forwards every hour or so. Most people at a very young age learn how to manage their time and learn that sticking to your word is very important in life, and you, CCP, are acting like a teenager whom ignores both. I am truly dissapointed in how this business is being run and your treatment of customers is negligent. DH Get a life and stop insulting your colleagues with this behavior, Mister "I'm a IT Consultant" Act like one, if you are, and start being professional.
Newton Gwyn	Posted - 2011.06.21 20:52:00 - [1055] Okay, we haven't had a time question recently. So If I catch a plane from Anchorage (US) to Magadan (Russia) and fly at 600mph. Then land and turn around at 500 mph, when can I download the patch (local time) :-)
KilABitcH	Posted - 2011.06.21 20:52:00 - [1056] For those that miss it! eve online: incarna 1.0 deployment downtime extendedreported by CCP Spitfire \| 2011.06.21 14:06:27 EVE Online: Incarna 1.0 is currently being deployed. Database updates took longer than expected, and have performed additional updates to a level one mission arc. This has resulted in an extended downtime. We expect to open Tranquility to the players at 23:30 UTC. Thank you for your understanding.
Tokreal	Posted - 2011.06.21 20:52:00 - [1057] Originally by: DarkestHeart CCP, No doubt you wont read this reponse, much like many responses whom mirror the same thoughts and feelings as my own. I've been playing tihs game for around 7 years now, and every single time a major update comes out it is delayed. Before it used to be a small number of hours and I didnt mind, but this is just getting longer and longer with each update. I am absolutely disgusted that a company in such a competitive market feels that its good conduct to treat their customers this way. I work as an IT Consultant, and if I was late or didn't keep my word, my word would very fast become worthless. CCP, you know people will continue to play your game, and so you feel that treating paying customers in this manner is ok. Not only is it poor business practice but it's wrong. Just an example, I setup a skill to run which would allow me enough time to log back into the game in the two hours free I get per day, after DT and set another skill. Because of this delay that wont happen, thus I will be missing out on a full days worth of skill training. Just to ensure that you get the point, this isnt just about losing skill times, I'm paying a good amount of money, more so than most other MMORPG's, and my gametime is being taken away because of your inability to stick to your word and do your jobs properly. If you are not going to be able to get an update out by the time you say, then you must start to factor this into your estimations. I would rather you say that servers will be down from 07:00 till 23:30 (and we all know it will be later than that) compared to 17:00, and then bump it forwards every hour or so. Most people at a very young age learn how to manage their time and learn that sticking to your word is very important in life, and you, CCP, are acting like a teenager whom ignores both. I am truly dissapointed in how this business is being run and your treatment of customers is negligent. DH You work as an IT Consultant? Sorry, but i sincerely doubt that after your words. Delays of this magnitude are normal in IT.
Nilt	Posted - 2011.06.21 20:53:00 - [1058] Originally by: Frederick Yassavi Once again, math is our friend. But you counted an extra day; we pay for 30 day chunks of game time. :P
ButtFungus	Posted - 2011.06.21 20:53:00 - [1059] Originally by: Ghost Slyna FanVettja I fell I'm really blessed that I can sit and watch on all the emo-rage =) This forum thread makes up for every bit of downtime that could be thrown my way =) I have my drinks ready and popcorn popped, just spamming F5 to see the next hilarious response =) I have to agree. I haven't laughed this hard in game for a long time.
Durgon	Posted - 2011.06.21 20:53:00 - [1060] Originally by: DarkestHeart I've been playing tihs game for around 7 years now, and every single time a major update comes out it is delayed. ... Just an example, I setup a skill to run which would allow me enough time to log back into the game in the two hours free I get per day, after DT and set another skill. Because of this delay that wont happen, thus I will be missing out on a full days worth of skill training. ... If you are not going to be able to get an update out by the time you say, then you must start to factor this into your estimations. I would rather you say that servers will be down from 07:00 till 23:30 (and we all know it will be later than that) compared to 17:00, and then bump it forwards every hour or so. Here's a thought: maybe you could learn from the past and not make the rookie mistake of holding them to the original time knowing it'll be missed, and set up a multi-day skill training? For the record I agree that they need to start padding their estimates more, maybe do a few extra trial runthroughs, but still, you know what to expect.

Dylvish	Posted - 2011.06.21 20:54:00 - [1061] Originally by: Ghost Slyna FanVettja I fell I'm really blessed that I can sit and watch on all the emo-rage =) This forum thread makes up for every bit of downtime that could be thrown my way =) I have my drinks ready and popcorn popped, just spamming F5 to see the next hilarious response =) QFT. Some of the posts and comments I've seen have had me in tears, I was laughing so hard.
Consortium Agent	Posted - 2011.06.21 20:54:00 - [1062] Edited by: Consortium Agent on 21/06/2011 21:00:14 We'll be done at 17:00... no wait, wait... sorry... make that 21:00... uh, ok, ok, we're just playing with you - make it 23:30... hahaha... got you guys again hahaha... now make it... Edit: In other words... this isn't unexpected out of CCP, I don't know why you're all not lolololing right now with the rest of us vs. ragequitting over something we all expect every patch time? :P /me grabs more beers
Ashra Tesh	Posted - 2011.06.21 20:54:00 - [1063] Edited by: Ashra Tesh on 21/06/2011 20:57:29 Lol, you people. :) First of all, They said it was going to be a long downtime, so if you're sitting waiting for it to upload: you're a moron. If you didn't set a long skill in anticipation of this despite CCP WARNING YOU TO : You're a Moron. Also, if you're just mad you can't play, but haven't yet realized SINGULARITY IS ONLINE AND YOU CAN LOG IN : You're a moron. Personally I'd rather my updates be done -right- than done quick. I don't really lose any game time over this because I have an awesome game called Real Life(tm) you should maybe check it out while you wait for the patch, dudettes!
eaterofcheese FACTION Inc.	Posted - 2011.06.21 20:54:00 - [1064] Originally by: Morgan Katarn a friend of mine from eve asked on facebook asking if its up yet and i wroth no its flacid Is that EVE related or just something you wanted to share with us? -- mmmm cheese...
Morgan Katarn	Posted - 2011.06.21 20:55:00 - [1065] http://www.pown.it/1254 thank you thank you thank you
HeliosGal Caldari	Posted - 2011.06.21 20:56:00 - [1066] 3 hours to go
TheJediDK	Posted - 2011.06.21 20:57:00 - [1067] Originally by: DarkestHeart CCP, No doubt you wont read this reponse, much like many responses whom mirror the same thoughts and feelings as my own. I've been playing tihs game for around 7 years now, and every single time a major update comes out it is delayed. Before it used to be a small number of hours and I didnt mind, but this is just getting longer and longer with each update. I am absolutely disgusted that a company in such a competitive market feels that its good conduct to treat their customers this way. I work as an IT Consultant, and if I was late or didn't keep my word, my word would very fast become worthless. CCP, you know people will continue to play your game, and so you feel that treating paying customers in this manner is ok. Not only is it poor business practice but it's wrong. Just an example, I setup a skill to run which would allow me enough time to log back into the game in the two hours free I get per day, after DT and set another skill. Because of this delay that wont happen, thus I will be missing out on a full days worth of skill training. Just to ensure that you get the point, this isnt just about losing skill times, I'm paying a good amount of money, more so than most other MMORPG's, and my gametime is being taken away because of your inability to stick to your word and do your jobs properly. If you are not going to be able to get an update out by the time you say, then you must start to factor this into your estimations. I would rather you say that servers will be down from 07:00 till 23:30 (and we all know it will be later than that) compared to 17:00, and then bump it forwards every hour or so. Most people at a very young age learn how to manage their time and learn that sticking to your word is very important in life, and you, CCP, are acting like a teenager whom ignores both. I am truly dissapointed in how this business is being run and your treatment of customers is negligent. DH So what your saying is after 7 years of experience you've learned nothing. Then you comaplain about them not informing what's going when in fact they do. Then you complain about money when all you've lost is the price of a cup of coffee. Only good point is they should handle their estimates better. The rest is just the rant of a person who wants to act mature but end out behaving like a spoiled teenager.
Kerr avonn Minmatar	Posted - 2011.06.21 20:57:00 - [1068] Originally by: Frederick Yassavi Originally by: Advocatus Diablo Disappointing CCP, just plain disapointing... 23:30???? Well my response to this is I am done paying real money for this bull**** I'll do the ISK-PLEX mambo from now on. Upset?? Hll yes I am upset!!!! If I hadn't paid REAL money, maybe I wouldn't be as upset. But we will see U r not getting a single REAL dollar from me for quite a while and lets see how you like it! Out of respect for you customers you seriously need to consider some serious compensation, u r like 5 hours delayed!!!! U get an effin Pizza free if delivery is 30 minutes late! Very very disappointed (maybe even former) CCP customer Once again, math is our friend. If the servers are up at 23:30, the deployment will have consumed 16.5 hours of your total monthly EVE time. There are 720 hours in July. This gives us a quotient of 0.023 (rounded). In percentage terms, 2.3% of your total EVE time is thus consumed. Given $15 per month - and just for the sake of this conversation - they have cost you 34.5 (35) cents USD. Note that, in return, you're getting a bunch of content at no greater monthly cost than any other month. So you have a few options: 1. Rage quit over 35 cents.* 2. Demand that CCP compensate you for your 35 cents. 3. Work hard in your virtual life so as to afford PLEX every month. 4. Quit being such an ingrate. Tears over 35P are great aren't they....lmfao
Kylan Baltar	Posted - 2011.06.21 20:57:00 - [1069] I do appreciate you working so hard and diligently to have incarna online asap, but it is a disappointment to all those who have waited. then the time keeps being moved further away. I do understand it isn't the easiest of jobs to do so quickly on a major overhaul of programming of this magnitude but maybe a little in game compensation for the players would make people a little happier at the thought they waited almost an entire day to enter the game. No hard currency maybe some isk or training bonuses. Just a thought. I still am an avid fan just a little frustrated. Thanks again for the hard work.
Morgan Katarn	Posted - 2011.06.21 20:57:00 - [1070] the question i got from him was is it up so i had to respond in the manner i did :P but ofc he asked about tq

El 1974	Posted - 2011.06.21 20:59:00 - [1071] I can't help but think of the poor people at CCP who have to do the work. Had to get up extremely early to start work and now it looks like they might have to pull an all-nighter. And it's like this almost every time they do a patch. And all their customers do is whine that it's taking too long. Yeah they know, they expected, well, hoped to be home by now. I'm off to bed. I hope it's up in the morning.
Linolea Austrene	Posted - 2011.06.21 20:59:00 - [1072] LOL some of these guys should try living in Australia... downtime in prime time every day. The tears are sweet... they shall sustain me through the next Aussie extended downtimes to fix the patch, and then the post patch patch... and the post, post patch patch. I believe the expression is "toughen up princess."
PainGiva Amarr EVE Undertakers	Posted - 2011.06.21 20:59:00 - [1073] Originally by: DarkestHeart I've been playing tihs game for around 7 years now, and every single time a major update comes out it is delayed. ... Just an example, I setup a skill to run which would allow me enough time to log back into the game in the two hours free I get per day, after DT and set another skill. Because of this delay that wont happen, thus I will be missing out on a full days worth of skill training. ... If you are not going to be able to get an update out by the time you say, then you must start to factor this into your estimations. I would rather you say that servers will be down from 07:00 till 23:30 (and we all know it will be later than that) compared to 17:00, and then bump it forwards every hour or so. If you have been playing for 7 years I doubt very much you have any skills left that take any less than 5 days to train! -------------------------------- мой есть ....
SirFur Caldari Elite Force Apocalypse Now.	Posted - 2011.06.21 20:59:00 - [1074] Originally by: DarkestHeart CCP, Just an example, I setup a skill to run which would allow me enough time to log back into the game in the two hours free I get per day, after DT and set another skill. Because of this delay that wont happen, thus I will be missing out on a full days worth of skill training. My friend patch updates are not small things. Delays WILL happen no matter. EVen if the patch is applied on time things are always shaking for a few days as the system settles in. If you've been playing for 7 years then I'm afraid this is your fault, not CCP. Every patch so far has had problems - its part of what we expect and what we know will happen. It is how it will be and is unlikely to change very much. The basic rule of patch days is to ensure you have a long skill in place. Rule. Everyone learns something every day in EvE, and you should learn this one for next time. As for all this raging about the delay of downtime...its a game...and if people are getting so worked up about it I would suggest they speak to a psychiatrist - trust me I know what I'm talking about. It's a game and there are plenty of other things to do whilst a patch is ongoing. As a rule of thumb = patch days = hiccups and delays. GEt used to it guys and plan ahead. --------------------------- Life is a Gift: Use it Wisely
Valleree	Posted - 2011.06.21 20:59:00 - [1075] Originally by: Tokreal You work as an IT Consultant? Sorry, but i sincerely doubt that after your words. Delays of this magnitude are normal in IT. I'm not in IT, and I'm not agreeing with the so-called IT consultant. That being said, I do work for a public corporation that has a 24-hour IT department. If my company were to have outages like this...they would likely replace someone. However, our servers being online are critical to our operations. Eve, on the other hand, is a game...and I don't really care if I can't play my game for a few hours.
Plain213 High Flyers RED.OverLord	Posted - 2011.06.21 20:59:00 - [1076] free sp? :D www.highflyers.us
Stevevaughn Renalard	Posted - 2011.06.21 20:59:00 - [1077] Originally by: Ashra Tesh Edited by: Ashra Tesh on 21/06/2011 20:57:29 Lol, you people. :) First of all, They said it was going to be a long downtime, so if you're sitting waiting for it to upload: you're a moron. If you didn't set a long skill in anticipation of this despite CCP WARNING YOU TO : You're a Moron. Also, if you're just mad you can't play, but haven't yet realized SINGULARITY IS ONLINE AND YOU CAN LOG IN : You're a moron. Personally I'd rather my updates be done -right- than done quick. I don't really lose any game time over this because I have an awesome game called Real Life(tm) you should maybe check it out while you wait for the patch, dudettes! Well said. cute avi btw
Archibald Creed	Posted - 2011.06.21 21:00:00 - [1078] Edited by: Archibald Creed on 21/06/2011 21:00:09
cyber man cy	Posted - 2011.06.21 21:00:00 - [1079] does anyone know what time eve will be back on in amarica
Dezolf Minmatar DAX Action Stance	Posted - 2011.06.21 21:00:00 - [1080] Edited by: Dezolf on 21/06/2011 21:02:47 Originally by: Frederick Yassavi 2. Demand that CCP compensate you for your 35 cents. Let's all demand that CCP compensate us 35 cents! In other news: I remember when "Oh, the server'll be down an hour or so, guys. Don't worry" became "Something happened. Two hours." and then "Three hours...", "Four hours!", "Six hours, we promise!" to "Okay guys, you better just go do something else for the next day or so. Oh, and no, we're not reimbursing you anything. Love and kisses -CCP" ;) In completely other news: I'm currently watching Castaway. My skill finishes in less than 8 hours (because I overslept. :P). Anyone up for some Alpha Centauri? ;D Also: Living in GMT+1 isn't too shazzy re: downtime. Of course, it's the middle of the day, but still. ): I wish I lived somewhere, where DT was at midnight. Then maybe I'd go to bed on time. :P

Brek'Diel Prophet	Posted - 2011.06.21 21:00:00 - [1081] Originally by: DarkestHeart CCP, No doubt you wont read this reponse, much like many responses whom mirror the same thoughts and feelings as my own. I've been playing tihs game for around 7 years now, and every single time a major update comes out it is delayed. Before it used to be a small number of hours and I didnt mind, but this is just getting longer and longer with each update. I am absolutely disgusted that a company in such a competitive market feels that its good conduct to treat their customers this way. I work as an IT Consultant, and if I was late or didn't keep my word, my word would very fast become worthless. CCP, you know people will continue to play your game, and so you feel that treating paying customers in this manner is ok. Not only is it poor business practice but it's wrong. Just an example, I setup a skill to run which would allow me enough time to log back into the game in the two hours free I get per day, after DT and set another skill. Because of this delay that wont happen, thus I will be missing out on a full days worth of skill training. Just to ensure that you get the point, this isnt just about losing skill times, I'm paying a good amount of money, more so than most other MMORPG's, and my gametime is being taken away because of your inability to stick to your word and do your jobs properly. If you are not going to be able to get an update out by the time you say, then you must start to factor this into your estimations. I would rather you say that servers will be down from 07:00 till 23:30 (and we all know it will be later than that) compared to 17:00, and then bump it forwards every hour or so. Most people at a very young age learn how to manage their time and learn that sticking to your word is very important in life, and you, CCP, are acting like a teenager whom ignores both. I am truly dissapointed in how this business is being run and your treatment of customers is negligent. DH this is amazing stuff. talk about nerd rage its awsome how some state to be said "I.T consultant" and yet whines and cries like the teenager he claims CCp to be. im enjoying this deployment moreso than the last couple.
Durgon	Posted - 2011.06.21 21:01:00 - [1082] Originally by: TheJediDK Then you complain about money when all you've lost is the price of a cup of coffee. You had me until here. 50 cents for coffee? BULL****! To all of you whining about a 16 hour downtime: when have you EVER worked a 16 hour day? When have you deployed software that went horribly wrong? They're busting ass and we're sitting on a forum. Trust me, this downtime sucks WAAAYYY more for them than it does for any of us.
DarkestHeart	Posted - 2011.06.21 21:01:00 - [1083] Originally by: Tokreal Originally by: DarkestHeart CCP, No doubt you wont read this reponse, much like many responses whom mirror the same thoughts and feelings as my own. I've been playing tihs game for around 7 years now, and every single time a major update comes out it is delayed. Before it used to be a small number of hours and I didnt mind, but this is just getting longer and longer with each update. I am absolutely disgusted that a company in such a competitive market feels that its good conduct to treat their customers this way. I work as an IT Consultant, and if I was late or didn't keep my word, my word would very fast become worthless. CCP, you know people will continue to play your game, and so you feel that treating paying customers in this manner is ok. Not only is it poor business practice but it's wrong. Just an example, I setup a skill to run which would allow me enough time to log back into the game in the two hours free I get per day, after DT and set another skill. Because of this delay that wont happen, thus I will be missing out on a full days worth of skill training. Just to ensure that you get the point, this isnt just about losing skill times, I'm paying a good amount of money, more so than most other MMORPG's, and my gametime is being taken away because of your inability to stick to your word and do your jobs properly. If you are not going to be able to get an update out by the time you say, then you must start to factor this into your estimations. I would rather you say that servers will be down from 07:00 till 23:30 (and we all know it will be later than that) compared to 17:00, and then bump it forwards every hour or so. Most people at a very young age learn how to manage their time and learn that sticking to your word is very important in life, and you, CCP, are acting like a teenager whom ignores both. I am truly dissapointed in how this business is being run and your treatment of customers is negligent. DH You work as an IT Consultant? Sorry, but i sincerely doubt that after your words. Delays of this magnitude are normal in IT. No, delays are built into a project plan and are accounted for. Believe me, if my clients had a delay like this I wouldnt have any damn clients left. You build in these kind of problems into your plan, estimate how long it will take to resolve and then ensure your customers know about it. I'm starting to think that CCP dont even bother with this most basic of practices. I'd bet money they didnt conduct any hardware risk-assesment before this ****up occured.
Munesous	Posted - 2011.06.21 21:02:00 - [1084] Originally by: Stevevaughn Renalard Originally by: Ashra Tesh Edited by: Ashra Tesh on 21/06/2011 20:57:29 Lol, you people. :) First of all, They said it was going to be a long downtime, so if you're sitting waiting for it to upload: you're a moron. If you didn't set a long skill in anticipation of this despite CCP WARNING YOU TO : You're a Moron. Also, if you're just mad you can't play, but haven't yet realized SINGULARITY IS ONLINE AND YOU CAN LOG IN : You're a moron. Personally I'd rather my updates be done -right- than done quick. I don't really lose any game time over this because I have an awesome game called Real Life(tm) you should maybe check it out while you wait for the patch, dudettes! Well said. cute avi btw Done right and done on time do not need to be mutually exclusive.
Amar Azaph	Posted - 2011.06.21 21:02:00 - [1085] Originally by: TiggerTime Edited by: TiggerTime on 21/06/2011 20:54:14 Edited by: TiggerTime on 21/06/2011 20:52:26 Originally by: DarkestHeart CCP, No doubt you wont read this reponse, much like many responses whom mirror the same thoughts and feelings as my own. I've been playing tihs game for around 7 years now, and every single time a major update comes out it is delayed. Before it used to be a small number of hours and I didnt mind, but this is just getting longer and longer with each update. I am absolutely disgusted that a company in such a competitive market feels that its good conduct to treat their customers this way. I work as an IT Consultant, and if I was late or didn't keep my word, my word would very fast become worthless. CCP, you know people will continue to play your game, and so you feel that treating paying customers in this manner is ok. Not only is it poor business practice but it's wrong. Just an example, I setup a skill to run which would allow me enough time to log back into the game in the two hours free I get per day, after DT and set another skill. Because of this delay that wont happen, thus I will be missing out on a full days worth of skill training. Just to ensure that you get the point, this isnt just about losing skill times, I'm paying a good amount of money, more so than most other MMORPG's, and my gametime is being taken away because of your inability to stick to your word and do your jobs properly. If you are not going to be able to get an update out by the time you say, then you must start to factor this into your estimations. I would rather you say that servers will be down from 07:00 till 23:30 (and we all know it will be later than that) compared to 17:00, and then bump it forwards every hour or so. Most people at a very young age learn how to manage their time and learn that sticking to your word is very important in life, and you, CCP, are acting like a teenager whom ignores both. I am truly dissapointed in how this business is being run and your treatment of customers is negligent. DH Get a life and stop insulting your colleagues with this behavior, Mister "I'm a IT Consultant" Act like one, if you are, and start being professional. TiggerTime, you work for CCP or something? Sent from a campfire using smoke signals.
cyber man cy	Posted - 2011.06.21 21:03:00 - [1086] does anyone know what time eve will be back on in amarica
Tepron	Posted - 2011.06.21 21:03:00 - [1087] i wonder if the CCP people actually read these rants..... if so since you guys are delaying so much, you should give us more screen shots and demo videos to oogle, keeps the trolls and morons occupied while you work :P
Savintry	Posted - 2011.06.21 21:03:00 - [1088] I am a project manager in RL and in our business we are required to exceed our clientÆs expectations. The first step in that process is to take care in setting realistic expectations to start with. This is not the first time CCP has grossly underestimated the down time necessary to deploy an update. Heads up to the Stellar Management folksà A 10-cent/client/hour in excess of estimate refund would surely cause some accountability. At least performance-delay based fines work in the RW.
Nilt	Posted - 2011.06.21 21:03:00 - [1089] Originally by: cyber man cy does anyone know what time eve will be back on in amarica Same time as everywhere else. :P
henry potter	Posted - 2011.06.21 21:04:00 - [1090] Just to make sure I am not being daft - there is nothing we can download yet, right? I'm not asking about the server being up, I just have a lamish net connection and would like to get a start on downloading any local updates. If all the issues are server-side, we ought to be able to start client update wheels in motion, yes?

Tokreal	Posted - 2011.06.21 21:04:00 - [1091] Originally by: Valleree Originally by: Tokreal You work as an IT Consultant? Sorry, but i sincerely doubt that after your words. Delays of this magnitude are normal in IT. I'm not in IT, and I'm not agreeing with the so-called IT consultant. That being said, I do work for a public corporation that has a 24-hour IT department. If my company were to have outages like this...they would likely replace someone. However, our servers being online are critical to our operations. Eve, on the other hand, is a game...and I don't really care if I can't play my game for a few hours. It's different for a running system or updating/installing a new system. Ofc you would fire someone who messes up a running system this way. But we don't have here a running system today.
Jasmine Oreglare	Posted - 2011.06.21 21:04:00 - [1092] Would appreciate it if everyone stopped complaining so much so that when they come out with more information they could post it without it getting lost in a field of "woes me, I can't play my game, so my life is ruined." Create a different forum on how much your life sucks. Lets let CCP finish their job, and post new information. Thank you. V/R Jas
kosmetica	Posted - 2011.06.21 21:04:00 - [1093] Originally by: Dylvish Originally by: Ghost Slyna FanVettja I fell I'm really blessed that I can sit and watch on all the emo-rage =) This forum thread makes up for every bit of downtime that could be thrown my way =) I have my drinks ready and popcorn popped, just spamming F5 to see the next hilarious response =) QFT. Some of the posts and comments I've seen have had me in tears, I was laughing so hard. bump for truth, beers and tears (of laughter)
Archibald Creed	Posted - 2011.06.21 21:04:00 - [1094] 20:00 Deployment is still underway and expecting Tranquility to still open at 21:30 UTC. 20:20 Downtime is now expected to last until 23:30 UTC due to the additional server updates.
General Windypops The Littlest Hobos En Garde	Posted - 2011.06.21 21:05:00 - [1095] Edited by: General Windypops on 21/06/2011 21:08:53 Originally by: DarkestFart I work as an IT Consultant, and if I was late or didn't keep my word, my word would very fast become worthless. Oh cool you're an IT Consultant. Can you change the toner in the office photocopier pls, ran out days ago. TIA. CSM 6: Let's get Windypops indypops.
Sheila Shenrose	Posted - 2011.06.21 21:05:00 - [1096] it's not 16.5hours we lose.. it's only 16 if you consider 30minutes of regular maintenance
cyber man cy	Posted - 2011.06.21 21:05:00 - [1097] does anyone know what time eve will be back on in amarica thanks and see u in the skies
Brek'Diel Prophet	Posted - 2011.06.21 21:05:00 - [1098] Originally by: DarkestHeart Originally by: Tokreal Originally by: DarkestHeart CCP, No doubt you wont read this reponse, much like many responses whom mirror the same thoughts and feelings as my own. I've been playing tihs game for around 7 years now, and every single time a major update comes out it is delayed. Before it used to be a small number of hours and I didnt mind, but this is just getting longer and longer with each update. I am absolutely disgusted that a company in such a competitive market feels that its good conduct to treat their customers this way. I work as an IT Consultant, and if I was late or didn't keep my word, my word would very fast become worthless. CCP, you know people will continue to play your game, and so you feel that treating paying customers in this manner is ok. Not only is it poor business practice but it's wrong. Just an example, I setup a skill to run which would allow me enough time to log back into the game in the two hours free I get per day, after DT and set another skill. Because of this delay that wont happen, thus I will be missing out on a full days worth of skill training. Just to ensure that you get the point, this isnt just about losing skill times, I'm paying a good amount of money, more so than most other MMORPG's, and my gametime is being taken away because of your inability to stick to your word and do your jobs properly. If you are not going to be able to get an update out by the time you say, then you must start to factor this into your estimations. I would rather you say that servers will be down from 07:00 till 23:30 (and we all know it will be later than that) compared to 17:00, and then bump it forwards every hour or so. Most people at a very young age learn how to manage their time and learn that sticking to your word is very important in life, and you, CCP, are acting like a teenager whom ignores both. I am truly dissapointed in how this business is being run and your treatment of customers is negligent. DH You work as an IT Consultant? Sorry, but i sincerely doubt that after your words. Delays of this magnitude are normal in IT. No, delays are built into a project plan and are accounted for. Believe me, if my clients had a delay like this I wouldnt have any damn clients left. You build in these kind of problems into your plan, estimate how long it will take to resolve and then ensure your customers know about it. I'm starting to think that CCP dont even bother with this most basic of practices. I'd bet money they didnt conduct any hardware risk-assesment before this ****up occured. I work in the I.T field aswell and if you did the same then you would know that with technology that you cannot predict what might go wrong or even if it will take at all. You can sit there and hope,wish,think,pray,and guess about when but the simple fact is it will not alweays go as planned. If you do not like the outcome of time it is taking CCP to distribute this patch then move on with your life and find something else to do with your time.
Luka SLO	Posted - 2011.06.21 21:05:00 - [1099] Waiting Eve to come online can be frustrating
DGSix Kado	Posted - 2011.06.21 21:06:00 - [1100] Well it is apparent that I landed just in time with this cargo load of pacifiers for all of you whiners out there. Feel free to take one and put in your mouth while you PATIENLY wait for CCP to do their job.

clixor Celluloid Gurus	Posted - 2011.06.21 21:06:00 - [1101] With a bit of luck. US TZ ALSO won't be able to login But tbh, every patch is the same, there is something really really wrong with CCP releasemanagement. Release should be tested and tested again and otherwise not deployed. How can you find some last minute bugs, or database update issues or whatever? And if tested, you can test the deployment itself and know EXACTLY how long it will take.. Don't take this the wrong way CCP, i know it's been a long day(s) for you guys, but for the love of our spaceshippixels, learn from this for once.
Hecate Lamia	Posted - 2011.06.21 21:06:00 - [1102] www.youmustchoose.com That should hold you over till the server comes back up in 93 hours.
Misunderstood Genius	Posted - 2011.06.21 21:06:00 - [1103] It was 2011/06/22 when half of the EVE community had to face the brutal truth that their computers are now definitely outdated and useless.
TiggerTime NED-Clan Goonswarm Federation	Posted - 2011.06.21 21:06:00 - [1104] Originally by: Amar Azaph Originally by: TiggerTime Edited by: TiggerTime on 21/06/2011 20:54:14 Edited by: TiggerTime on 21/06/2011 20:52:26 Originally by: DarkestHeart CCP, .... WHINE WHINE WHINE .... Most people at a very young age learn how to manage their time and learn that sticking to your word is very important in life, and you, CCP, are acting like a teenager whom ignores both. I am truly dissapointed in how this business is being run and your treatment of customers is negligent. DH Get a life and stop insulting your colleagues with this behavior, Mister "I'm a IT Consultant" Act like one, if you are, and start being professional. TiggerTime, you work for CCP or something? No I do not work for CCP.
ashton wiler	Posted - 2011.06.21 21:06:00 - [1105] Originally by: henry potter Just to make sure I am not being daft - there is nothing we can download yet, right? I'm not asking about the server being up, I just have a lamish net connection and would like to get a start on downloading any local updates. If all the issues are server-side, we ought to be able to start client update wheels in motion, yes? Page 6 in this forum has a link that will allow you to download the new patch. Took me about 40 mins and is about 745 mb download.
Morgan Katarn	Posted - 2011.06.21 21:07:00 - [1106] Dont you see that guy is Masturbating on the pown link :P
Starp Kroakar	Posted - 2011.06.21 21:08:00 - [1107] Cheese is needed with all this whine.
Yulinki Atavuli Minmatar Caldari Investment and Security Industries Innovia Alliance	Posted - 2011.06.21 21:08:00 - [1108] Originally by: DarkestHeart Originally by: Tokreal Originally by: DarkestHeart CCP, No doubt you wont read this reponse, much like many responses whom mirror the same thoughts and feelings as my own. I've been playing tihs game for around 7 years now, and every single time a major update comes out it is delayed. Before it used to be a small number of hours and I didnt mind, but this is just getting longer and longer with each update. I am absolutely disgusted that a company in such a competitive market feels that its good conduct to treat their customers this way. I work as an IT Consultant, and if I was late or didn't keep my word, my word would very fast become worthless. CCP, you know people will continue to play your game, and so you feel that treating paying customers in this manner is ok. Not only is it poor business practice but it's wrong. Just an example, I setup a skill to run which would allow me enough time to log back into the game in the two hours free I get per day, after DT and set another skill. Because of this delay that wont happen, thus I will be missing out on a full days worth of skill training. Just to ensure that you get the point, this isnt just about losing skill times, I'm paying a good amount of money, more so than most other MMORPG's, and my gametime is being taken away because of your inability to stick to your word and do your jobs properly. If you are not going to be able to get an update out by the time you say, then you must start to factor this into your estimations. I would rather you say that servers will be down from 07:00 till 23:30 (and we all know it will be later than that) compared to 17:00, and then bump it forwards every hour or so. Most people at a very young age learn how to manage their time and learn that sticking to your word is very important in life, and you, CCP, are acting like a teenager whom ignores both. I am truly dissapointed in how this business is being run and your treatment of customers is negligent. DH You work as an IT Consultant? Sorry, but i sincerely doubt that after your words. Delays of this magnitude are normal in IT. No, delays are built into a project plan and are accounted for. Believe me, if my clients had a delay like this I wouldnt have any damn clients left. You build in these kind of problems into your plan, estimate how long it will take to resolve and then ensure your customers know about it. I'm starting to think that CCP dont even bother with this most basic of practices. I'd bet money they didnt conduct any hardware risk-assesment before this ****up occured. it's impossible to know what will happen, buddy until it happens. they are trying to put together something they have never done before. like for example the first person who put together a big mac at mcdonalds there would be no way to know how long it will take until they sat down and did it. the thing with video game programming almost everything they do is completely new. so how can you estimate a time frame if you have nothing to compare it to?
cizzah	Posted - 2011.06.21 21:08:00 - [1109] RAGEQWIT!!
Helen Gaterau	Posted - 2011.06.21 21:09:00 - [1110] If you people dont realize it is not about the 35c (and what of most plp with multiple accounts) It is about CCP telling us yet again a time and yet again screwing up. I employ people to work for me and if CCP was working for me they would be out of a job. So you brown nose people need to take your heads from out of CCP's behind because unless you work for them, sticking up for them and making light of a serious mess wont get you any where. What has happened here is a disgrace, Blizzard did a seemless expansion that is a lot more complex than this one and did it with no downtime at all. As has been mentioned, this happens every time and CCP should be ashamed. 10 hours @ 12 million an hour = 120 mill lost, hint hint.

henry potter	Posted - 2011.06.21 21:09:00 - [1111] Originally by: ashton wiler Originally by: henry potter Just to make sure I am not being daft - there is nothing we can download yet, right? I'm not asking about the server being up, I just have a lamish net connection and would like to get a start on downloading any local updates. If all the issues are server-side, we ought to be able to start client update wheels in motion, yes? Page 6 in this forum has a link that will allow you to download the new patch. Took me about 40 mins and is about 745 mb download. check it out - a useful answer! ashton rocks :) thanks!
TheJediDK	Posted - 2011.06.21 21:09:00 - [1112] Originally by: Durgon Originally by: TheJediDK Then you complain about money when all you've lost is the price of a cup of coffee. You had me until here. 50 cents for coffee? BULL****! To all of you whining about a 16 hour downtime: when have you EVER worked a 16 hour day? When have you deployed software that went horribly wrong? They're busting ass and we're sitting on a forum. Trust me, this downtime sucks WAAAYYY more for them than it does for any of us. Coffee isnt the point tho. The point is if the ammount is such a big loss for someone they shouldnt be spending money on something like a game ;) I agree with you on the long workday CCP has today. They must sleep well tonight ^^ Untill Lulzsec nukes em once TQ goes online ^^
Frankie iCoRy Minmatar Stir Crazy Research and Manufacturing	Posted - 2011.06.21 21:10:00 - [1113] Edited by: Frankie iCoRy on 21/06/2011 21:11:16 some of you here are so mad like this guy http://www.pown.it/3615
Young Surian	Posted - 2011.06.21 21:10:00 - [1114] RAGE!
BlackFrog	Posted - 2011.06.21 21:10:00 - [1115] I'm starting to wonder if my queued 3 day skill will be enough... (And yeah, there will very likely be patches for the updated patches and so on.) CCP, why do there always seem to be some unforseen problem with almost every major deployment??? You guys att CCP must be asking yourself this too aren't you?
Consortium Agent	Posted - 2011.06.21 21:10:00 - [1116] For all those addicted to Eve who need to play a video game before they're dead from withdrawal symptoms (which is what I must assume from reading some of these posts)... cowboy up (or cowgirl up) and go give back: http://gamesthatgive.net/play/ OR Go visit your favorite Eve sites and click on the advertisements to show your support. :cough: OR Go sit on a stick. But for the love of God, if you're going to quit Eve over this... can I have yer sh!t? :P ROFLMAO
DarkTemplarCrimsonWolf Amarr	Posted - 2011.06.21 21:10:00 - [1117] If people were playing drinking games to CCP deployment delays most people would be plastered by now and I'd expect the next generation of EVE-ers to also be conceived during said games. I am not whining, I don't mind a full day without EVE but the delay is over 4 hours now with an additional 2 more expected, ok, not abnormal... but after a 10 hour DT ? oooook I am sure as hell moving to Iceland now... if the slack for getting stuff done on time is this great I surely have a place in your company :D(expect my CV whenever tomorrow, plus minus a decade, depends on how much time it take for me to run down all the bugs in it). To anyone who thinks I am whining: I suggest getting your hand out of your pants first because it's obvious your brain is being starved of oxygen.
Ting Mei Gallente Federal Institute Service	Posted - 2011.06.21 21:10:00 - [1118] Edited by: Ting Mei on 21/06/2011 21:10:39 In a way Ç0.35 x 300.000 accounts (don't know the real number) = Ç105.000 Personnaly, i understand they do not even want to give them back :p
Jitowa barylka	Posted - 2011.06.21 21:10:00 - [1119] Is there any plan for reimburse whole day lost from my pay for play, i dont mean cash i mean sp for. If i hav to be honest CCP should let us know They need 2 days to apply incarna, and then after give us reimbursment of sp or anything for that. Good Luck CCP BTW: i had hope that ill play on tuesday, but now i lose all hopes, its whirly soo hard to let players know U need 2 days fro patch ? I think no, and all of us would be more nice and happy
DGSix Kado	Posted - 2011.06.21 21:10:00 - [1120] Originally by: Helen Gaterau If you people dont realize it is not about the 35c (and what of most plp with multiple accounts) It is about CCP telling us yet again a time and yet again screwing up. I employ people to work for me and if CCP was working for me they would be out of a job. So you brown nose people need to take your heads from out of CCP's behind because unless you work for them, sticking up for them and making light of a serious mess wont get you any where. What has happened here is a disgrace, Blizzard did a seemless expansion that is a lot more complex than this one and did it with no downtime at all. As has been mentioned, this happens every time and CCP should be ashamed. 10 hours @ 12 million an hour = 120 mill lost, hint hint. Looks like you need a pacifier too stop WHINING !

Brek'Diel Prophet	Posted - 2011.06.21 21:11:00 - [1121] Originally by: Helen Gaterau sticking up for them and making light of a serious mess wont get you any where. What has happened here is a disgrace, Blizzard did a seemless expansion that is a lot more complex than this one and did it with no downtime at all. As has been mentioned, this happens every time and CCP should be ashamed. 10 hours @ 12 million an hour = 120 mill lost, hint hint. OMFG ITS A SERIOUS MESS GUYS. OUR INTERNETZ ARE BROKENZ. PLEEEZ HELP CLEAN IT UP WIZ UR BROOMZ.
Liet PWNED Factor	Posted - 2011.06.21 21:12:00 - [1122] Originally by: DarkestHeart CCP, No doubt you wont read this reponse, much like many responses whom mirror the same thoughts and feelings as my own. I've been playing tihs game for around 7 years now, and every single time a major update comes out it is delayed. Before it used to be a small number of hours and I didnt mind, but this is just getting longer and longer with each update. I am absolutely disgusted that a company in such a competitive market feels that its good conduct to treat their customers this way. I work as an IT Consultant, and if I was late or didn't keep my word, my word would very fast become worthless. CCP, you know people will continue to play your game, and so you feel that treating paying customers in this manner is ok. Not only is it poor business practice but it's wrong. Just an example, I setup a skill to run which would allow me enough time to log back into the game in the two hours free I get per day, after DT and set another skill. Because of this delay that wont happen, thus I will be missing out on a full days worth of skill training. Just to ensure that you get the point, this isnt just about losing skill times, I'm paying a good amount of money, more so than most other MMORPG's, and my gametime is being taken away because of your inability to stick to your word and do your jobs properly. If you are not going to be able to get an update out by the time you say, then you must start to factor this into your estimations. I would rather you say that servers will be down from 07:00 till 23:30 (and we all know it will be later than that) compared to 17:00, and then bump it forwards every hour or so. Most people at a very young age learn how to manage their time and learn that sticking to your word is very important in life, and you, CCP, are acting like a teenager whom ignores both. I am truly dissapointed in how this business is being run and your treatment of customers is negligent. DH Lulz and lies. 8-6 years ago in eve when a patch hit you were lucky to get online within the first week of it being released for more than a couple minutes or hours at best. And if you did get online it was just as often that some massive bug obliterated whatever you were flying or locked down whatever system you were in so you could only look at a blank screen (logged in). so to the OP of this horrible quote. stfu, 16 hours, hell 36 hours is nothing for a patch...
RotsjK	Posted - 2011.06.21 21:12:00 - [1123] Nice, status changed from incorrect version to status unknown, is that progress???
JazBah	Posted - 2011.06.21 21:12:00 - [1124] Edited by: JazBah on 21/06/2011 21:36:14 Edited by: JazBah on 21/06/2011 21:18:22 Edited by: JazBah on 21/06/2011 21:14:17 Originally by: Jasmine Oreglare Would appreciate it if everyone stopped complaining so much so that when they come out with more information they could post it without it getting lost in a field of "woes me, I can't play my game, so my life is ruined." Create a different forum on how much your life sucks. Lets let CCP finish their job, and post new information. Thank you. V/R Jas We are doing what we can with our alloted game time for this day. If we cannot shoot at each other in-game then we have to do it here... So if all you're interested in is updates, then run your nasty little pooper out of this system and go to http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1532385
Ashra Tesh	Posted - 2011.06.21 21:12:00 - [1125] Originally by: DarkestHeart CCP, .... WHINE WHINE WHINE .... Most people at a very young age learn how to manage their time and learn that sticking to your word is very important in life, and you, CCP, are acting like a teenager whom ignores both. I am truly dissapointed in how this business is being run and your treatment of customers is negligent. DH Just like you people who are whining should learn to manage their time and do other things than sit there and cry about a video game not being online. Go clean your basement fortress and cry about how no girl will ever be down there with you, or whatever you lonely nerds do when you can't play with your INTERNET SPACESHIPS
Yulinki Atavuli Minmatar Caldari Investment and Security Industries Innovia Alliance	Posted - 2011.06.21 21:12:00 - [1126] Originally by: Helen Gaterau 10 hours @ 12 million an hour = 120 mill lost, hint hint. your math is wrong it is 10 hours @ 120 THOUSAND = 1.2 million
Demonfuge Malevolent	Posted - 2011.06.21 21:13:00 - [1127] Edited by: Demonfuge Malevolent on 21/06/2011 21:13:24 Hmm I've sat through the other patches and delays without complaint but I do understand some people getting agitated today because there is no service today at all. In general I applaud the new content and I'm sure CCP are working their hardest to get the server back up and running. That said, someone earlier made a good point that if your pizza delivery is 30 minutes late you get a free pizza. If trains are 2 hours late you get a refund. If I have no internet all day, my internet service provider refunds at least 1 day of charges. There has been no Eve Online all day and while that's simply unfortunate and CCP are probably as disappointed as we are, there's still been no service today and if we're paying for that service there should be some form of compensation or refund. That said I do appreciate the hard work the guys at CCP are clearly putting in and their dedication to the gaming community. In particular it's nice that they keep us reasonably regularly update.
Xaas Naskingar	Posted - 2011.06.21 21:13:00 - [1128] CCP, If i were you... i'd give everyone who has complained about lost time... or demanded free SP a 7 day ban... anyone who has complained about how they pay good money only to loose a few hours gametime in exchange for 15 FREE expansions.... should receive a 14 day IP ban and anyone with the nerve to use the excuse Quote: "im an IT developer" should receive a perma ban :) just a suggestion :)
Xiang Akachi	Posted - 2011.06.21 21:13:00 - [1129] Ok I got a better idea for the rage spammers to argue about... Cheese Toast or Dynasty Gundam... discussion go!
DGSix Kado	Posted - 2011.06.21 21:13:00 - [1130] Originally by: Jitowa barylka Is there any plan for reimburse whole day lost from my pay for play, i dont mean cash i mean sp for. If i hav to be honest CCP should let us know They need 2 days to apply incarna, and then after give us reimbursment of sp or anything for that. Good Luck CCP BTW: i had hope that ill play on tuesday, but now i lose all hopes, its whirly soo hard to let players know U need 2 days fro patch ? I think no, and all of us would be more nice and happy You should have crowsed eye and waxed on a skill that takes more than one day to train

Ashley Kaite Minmatar Dynakinetics	Posted - 2011.06.21 21:13:00 - [1131] CCP, No doubt you wont read this reponse, much like many responses whom mirror the same thoughts and feelings as my own. I've been playing this game for around 8 years now, and every single time a major update comes out it is awesome. Before it used to be a small number of hours and I didnt mind, but this is just getting longer and longer with each update, and guess what? I still dont mind. I am absolutely thrilled that a company in such a competitive market feels that its good conduct to treat their customers this way. Thank you for the awesome game, and for working so hard to keep it fresh. And thanks again for working so late into the night to get this build out, -Ash Ashley Kaite CEO Neuromancers
Jack Calypo	Posted - 2011.06.21 21:14:00 - [1132] Can you next time screw an other timezone and not always us Euro's
Maul555 Amarr Reliables Inc BricK sQuAD.	Posted - 2011.06.21 21:14:00 - [1133] Originally by: DarkestHeart CCP, No doubt you wont read this reponse, much like many responses whom mirror the same thoughts and feelings as my own. I've been playing tihs game for around 7 years now, and every single time a major update comes out it is delayed. Before it used to be a small number of hours and I didnt mind, but this is just getting longer and longer with each update. I am absolutely disgusted that a company in such a competitive market feels that its good conduct to treat their customers this way. I work as an IT Consultant, and if I was late or didn't keep my word, my word would very fast become worthless. CCP, you know people will continue to play your game, and so you feel that treating paying customers in this manner is ok. Not only is it poor business practice but it's wrong. Just an example, I setup a skill to run which would allow me enough time to log back into the game in the two hours free I get per day, after DT and set another skill. Because of this delay that wont happen, thus I will be missing out on a full days worth of skill training. Just to ensure that you get the point, this isnt just about losing skill times, I'm paying a good amount of money, more so than most other MMORPG's, and my gametime is being taken away because of your inability to stick to your word and do your jobs properly. If you are not going to be able to get an update out by the time you say, then you must start to factor this into your estimations. I would rather you say that servers will be down from 07:00 till 23:30 (and we all know it will be later than that) compared to 17:00, and then bump it forwards every hour or so. Most people at a very young age learn how to manage their time and learn that sticking to your word is very important in life, and you, CCP, are acting like a teenager whom ignores both. I am truly dissapointed in how this business is being run and your treatment of customers is negligent. DH I have been playing for 8+ years and was in the Beta before that, and I couldn't read past your 3rd paragraph because of all the pointless drivel your post contains. Quit giving us vets a bad name. The EVE Personality Test
Jitowa barylka	Posted - 2011.06.21 21:14:00 - [1134] And dear CCP plz give patch next time before u going to put server down, all of us will immediatelly kill download server after those HUGE update
Frederick Yassavi	Posted - 2011.06.21 21:14:00 - [1135] Originally by: Sheila Shenrose it's not 16.5hours we lose.. it's only 16 if you consider 30minutes of regular maintenance My god, you're right! That leaves us with 705 hours, not 720. Which means that he is now owed...er...well, it still rounds to 35 cents. But still! More rigor! Well played. :D
cizzah	Posted - 2011.06.21 21:14:00 - [1136] Originally by: Xiang Akachi Ok I got a better idea for the rage spammers to argue about... Cheese Toast or Dynasty Gundam... discussion go! As long as it's not effing marmite...
Ting Mei Gallente Federal Institute Service	Posted - 2011.06.21 21:14:00 - [1137] Originally by: RotsjK Nice, status changed from incorrect version to status unknown, is that progress??? No, just a tranquility reboot :)
Valandil Darkhold	Posted - 2011.06.21 21:14:00 - [1138] Originally by: DarkestHeart CCP, No doubt you wont read this reponse, much like many responses whom mirror the same thoughts and feelings as my own. I've been playing tihs game for around 7 years now, and every single time a major update comes out it is delayed. Before it used to be a small number of hours and I didnt mind, but this is just getting longer and longer with each update. I am absolutely disgusted that a company in such a competitive market feels that its good conduct to treat their customers this way. I work as an IT Consultant, and if I was late or didn't keep my word, my word would very fast become worthless. CCP, you know people will continue to play your game, and so you feel that treating paying customers in this manner is ok. Not only is it poor business practice but it's wrong. Just an example, I setup a skill to run which would allow me enough time to log back into the game in the two hours free I get per day, after DT and set another skill. Because of this delay that wont happen, thus I will be missing out on a full days worth of skill training. Just to ensure that you get the point, this isnt just about losing skill times, I'm paying a good amount of money, more so than most other MMORPG's, and my gametime is being taken away because of your inability to stick to your word and do your jobs properly. If you are not going to be able to get an update out by the time you say, then you must start to factor this into your estimations. I would rather you say that servers will be down from 07:00 till 23:30 (and we all know it will be later than that) compared to 17:00, and then bump it forwards every hour or so. Most people at a very young age learn how to manage their time and learn that sticking to your word is very important in life, and you, CCP, are acting like a teenager whom ignores both. I am truly dissapointed in how this business is being run and your treatment of customers is negligent. DH There is a difference between a consultant and someone who actually has to do the service work. Saying you are a consultant doesn't tell me how much you actually get into the hardware and software changes on a live system. I actually do server updates and upgrades and sometimes overruns happen. We had a 12 hour overrun on a server replacement due to various problems most to do with improper information from software manufacturers. It happens. Managing a multiplayer online game is a step beyond and I've done this on the predecessors to today's multiplayer online games. Managing a cluster such as eve and processing a major set of changes such as listed here with some overruns is not unexpected. They also stated they EXPECTED not PROMISED 17:00 uptime. Now you say you set your trainers so you can login each day to change them. You don't make use of the 24 hour queue period in which the trainer can be changed for you? This does extend your need to login past a daily period. We fought hard for that system so there's no excuses for missing a trainer within a 24 hour period of being logged in. On a lighter note... they did not state what day at 17:00 Maybe they're just early for tomorrow :) I'm one of the first to poke fun at CCP and the things that go on regularly. I'm also one of the first to recognize how hard it is to do what they do on the scale they use. If you don't like it then stomp off and quit and leave more resources for the rest of us. tips hat oh dangit I have to get aurum to buy a hat to tip..... stomps off looking for a hat
Smight Adon	Posted - 2011.06.21 21:15:00 - [1139] a few weeks into the game for me, (im a 2 month old pilot) i was sitting very intrepidly off auga 3rd cloaked up in a probe taunting an amarr station camper with vollies of witty station games insults and fukung attacks. (your fukung is weak!) i was in comm with corp and had just been talking about a small amarr fleet we had decided to roll. suddenly i get a fleet invite and ofc i accept. next thing i know, the camper is right beside me in his tengu, uncloaking and blowing me up. far from angry i laughed myself silly. and swore to kill said camper at a later date, which i managed to do later with a well placed trap with myself as bait. anyways, this particular camper has taught me just as much about piloting as any of my incredible corp mates. the point of all this is simple. eve is just **ing awesome, if a few hours downtime **es you off then by all means quit. im jonesing as bad as anyone, but a lil DT is a small price to pay for the daily thrill of blowing the amarr to the seven hells. plz take ur time ccp and ty again for the wonderful game. it makes my life better and i appreciate it. now feel free to flame the hell out of me sucking up, but im bored, defying gravity, and ready to blow said amarr to said seven hells. cheers mates! ROSS like a BOSS!
Khali Soo Amarr	Posted - 2011.06.21 21:15:00 - [1140] OK I can't possibly read all 37 (ATM) pages on this thread, but - What a bunch of Whiney babypants you all are! Is this NOT the best, most intricate, immerse MMORPG in existence on the pathetic planet called EARTH???? WTF do you expect from a shining example of collaborative,State-of-the-art, bleeding-edge, technology that is EVE?? I am repeatedly drawing parallels with other paradigm shifting technology. Computer tech (on your desktop) is less than 30 years old. Consider the automobile technology +30 years. One needed to be a mechanic to keep they're Model A Ford streetworthy. Computer tech is still in it's infancy. Stop pretending it's like your TV, and get real!! Problems happen; deal with it! And for GOD"S SAKE -- STFU!!!

Frankie iCoRy Minmatar Stir Crazy Research and Manufacturing	Posted - 2011.06.21 21:15:00 - [1141] lmao http://www.pown.it/2922
cyber man cy	Posted - 2011.06.21 21:15:00 - [1142] eve online is awsome but really ccp this long of a wait can be frusterating i mean i under stand it takes a while we all do but plz try to speed it up no ones gonna quit we all love eve online lets keep it tht way plz
Evelyn Albosa	Posted - 2011.06.21 21:16:00 - [1143] I think it's safe to say that comparing CCP to a regular IT-firm, and the Incarna upgrade to a regular windows/linux server upgrade, is weak at best. Clearly the software and the architecture behind the game are much more complex than that. I doubt that it's not a case of "Click on install to upgrade to Incarna" for CCP.
Ghost Slyna FanVettja	Posted - 2011.06.21 21:16:00 - [1144] Edited by: Ghost Slyna FanVettja on 21/06/2011 21:17:22 Originally by: DarkestHeart CCP, No doubt you wont read this reponse, much like many responses whom mirror the same thoughts and feelings as my own. I've been playing tihs game for around 7 years now, and every single time a major update comes out it is delayed. Before it used to be a small number of hours and I didnt mind, but this is just getting longer and longer with each update. I am absolutely disgusted that a company in such a competitive market feels that its good conduct to treat their customers this way. I work as an IT Consultant, and if I was late or didn't keep my word, my word would very fast become worthless. CCP, you know people will continue to play your game, and so you feel that treating paying customers in this manner is ok. Not only is it poor business practice but it's wrong. Just an example, I setup a skill to run which would allow me enough time to log back into the game in the two hours free I get per day, after DT and set another skill. Because of this delay that wont happen, thus I will be missing out on a full days worth of skill training. Just to ensure that you get the point, this isnt just about losing skill times, I'm paying a good amount of money, more so than most other MMORPG's, and my gametime is being taken away because of your inability to stick to your word and do your jobs properly. If you are not going to be able to get an update out by the time you say, then you must start to factor this into your estimations. I would rather you say that servers will be down from 07:00 till 23:30 (and we all know it will be later than that) compared to 17:00, and then bump it forwards every hour or so. Most people at a very young age learn how to manage their time and learn that sticking to your word is very important in life, and you, CCP, are acting like a teenager whom ignores both. I am truly dissapointed in how this business is being run and your treatment of customers is negligent. DH No doubt you wont read this response, much like many responses whom mirror the same thoughts and feelings as my own. I've been playing this game for around 7 years now, and every single time a major update comes out it is delayed some guy starts whining about it. Before it used to be a small number of posts, but now they just seem to be more and more, and longer and longer. I am absolutely disgusted that a person playing a video game has the energy to brag about unimportant titles in real life, and how they would handle the stress of being on time with their insignificant work loads. You will continue to play this game no matter how CCP treats you. As an example, I log on the forums everyday to read something interesting, and end up reading your wall-o-whine regarding matters that no one will really take to heart. That is time I will never get back. Just to ensure that you get the point, this isn't just about me being irritated in whiners like you, I'm spending good time on these forums, more so than most other forums, and my forum time is taken away because of your inability to wake up and smell the coffee, prepare for long downtimes with longer skill queues and do your research properly. Most people at a very young age learn how to manage their time and learn that sticking to your word is very important in life, and you, CCP, are acting like a teenager whom ignores both. I am truly disappointed in how this business is being run and your treatment of customers is negligent. Most people at a very young age learn how to manage their forum posts and learn that keeping them accurate and short is very important in life, and you DarkestHeart, are acting like a teenager whom ignores both. I am truly disappointed in your lack of understanding and your treatment of other forum users. You know skill queues can reach up to over 30 days right? Pick something longer then 4 hours during patch days. GSFV
Antonius Sarum	Posted - 2011.06.21 21:16:00 - [1145] Edited by: Antonius Sarum on 21/06/2011 21:16:43 I would like to take this moment to thank CCP for all their hard work and dedication in bringing this expansion and new era for New Eden to us, I hope you all get to go to the bar and drink many beers after work, thank you so much and I look forward to seeing what direction Incarna will take us. And for those of you that have spent your time complaining I would like to thank you as well, I've been guilty of raging over EvE Online many times myself and you've shown me what I probably looked like. PS Please let us have all four racial CQs as soon as possible, I'm sure I'm not the only one who doesn't want to get tetanus from their CQ.
WCPistolPete Gallente MacroIntel	Posted - 2011.06.21 21:16:00 - [1146] Edited by: WCPistolPete on 21/06/2011 21:19:01 Originally by: Newton Gwyn Okay, we haven't had a time question recently. So If I catch a plane from Anchorage (US) to Magadan (Russia) and fly at 600mph. Then land and turn around at 500 mph, when can I download the patch (local time) :-) If you travel "As the crow flies" you'll be back and sitting impatiently as the patch will still not be finished. If you circumnavigate the Earth it won't matter. You'll run out of fuel and crash long before the patch finishes. {WC}PistolPete "...going to take a lot of fireworks to clean this place up..." Homer Simpson
Durgon	Posted - 2011.06.21 21:17:00 - [1147] Originally by: TheJediDK ) I agree with you on the long workday CCP has today. They must sleep well tonight ^^ Untill Lulzsec nukes em once TQ goes online ^^ Man that would suck more than an indebted prostitute on crack. CCP Devs would ragequit at that point.
Morgan Katarn	Posted - 2011.06.21 21:17:00 - [1148] http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/810/kanamechidoribyaraarash.jpg/ be happy smile Like Kaname :P
Helen Gaterau	Posted - 2011.06.21 21:17:00 - [1149] Originally by: DGSix Kado Originally by: Helen Gaterau If you people dont realize it is not about the 35c (and what of most plp with multiple accounts) It is about CCP telling us yet again a time and yet again screwing up. I employ people to work for me and if CCP was working for me they would be out of a job. So you brown nose people need to take your heads from out of CCP's behind because unless you work for them, sticking up for them and making light of a serious mess wont get you any where. What has happened here is a disgrace, Blizzard did a seemless expansion that is a lot more complex than this one and did it with no downtime at all. As has been mentioned, this happens every time and CCP should be ashamed. 10 hours @ 12 million an hour = 120 mill lost, hint hint. Looks like you need a pacifier too stop WHINING ! go help your ccp work mates get the patch working, and yes, many plp do work 16 hrs and more per day, so you stop whining and go do your job right
cizzah	Posted - 2011.06.21 21:17:00 - [1150] Originally by: Ashra Tesh Originally by: DarkestHeart CCP, .... WHINE WHINE WHINE .... Most people at a very young age learn how to manage their time and learn that sticking to your word is very important in life, and you, CCP, are acting like a teenager whom ignores both. I am truly dissapointed in how this business is being run and your treatment of customers is negligent. DH Just like you people who are whining should learn to manage their time and do other things than sit there and cry about a video game not being online. Go clean your basement fortress and cry about how no girl will ever be down there with you, or whatever you lonely nerds do when you can't play with your INTERNET SPACESHIPS My got, you're right! My basement fortress is a bit messy.

Amar Azaph	Posted - 2011.06.21 21:17:00 - [1151] I must say that the brown nose factor has increased 4 fold in the last few pages. Sent from a campfire using smoke signals.
nameless1q	Posted - 2011.06.21 21:18:00 - [1152] OMFG I CANT BELIVE THIS CRAP, IVE GOT VELDSPAR TO MINE... I GOING TO SUE YOU FOR BEING LATE
Gifted One	Posted - 2011.06.21 21:18:00 - [1153] Edited by: Gifted One on 21/06/2011 21:18:49 1 week DT!: http://www.eve-search.com/thread/1014090/page/1
Linolea Austrene	Posted - 2011.06.21 21:18:00 - [1154] Originally by: Jack Calypo Can you next time screw an other timezone and not always us Euro's You are being funny, yes? Try Australia... downtime starts every evening between 7pm and 10pm depending on time of year and where you live. Don't hear us complaining. Feel better now?
Bananashakes	Posted - 2011.06.21 21:19:00 - [1155]
Young Surian	Posted - 2011.06.21 21:34:00 - [1156] Incarna release has been awarded the Epic Fail Seal. Congratulations CCP!!!!!
SirFur Caldari Elite Force Apocalypse Now.	Posted - 2011.06.21 21:34:00 - [1157] Originally by: El 1974 I can't help but think of the poor people at CCP who have to do the work. Had to get up extremely early to start work and now it looks like they might have to pull an all-nighter. And it's like this almost every time they do a patch. And all their customers do is whine that it's taking too long. Yeah they know, they expected, well, hoped to be home by now. I'm off to bed. I hope it's up in the morning. Well said. Three cheers for the guys at CCP!!! Patch days are always worth the wait! --------------------------- Life is a Gift: Use it Wisely
Kanati Agiusdi	Posted - 2011.06.21 21:35:00 - [1158] Downloading NOW!!! Check it y'all
koodiac	Posted - 2011.06.21 21:35:00 - [1159] EVE Online: Incarna 1.0 is currently being deployed. Database updates took longer than expected, and have performed additional updates to a level one mission arc. This has resulted in an extended downtime. We expect to open Tranquility to the players at 23:30 UTC. Thank you for your understanding. I actually can not understand me living in Europe are not able to play entire day... expected to be online is 23.30 and that will be 1.30 am this is simply bull**, test the ** before you make changes to playserver
Argnath	Posted - 2011.06.21 21:38:00 - [1160] eh looks like ccp invented a time machine to check out if stuff works -> last news from eve-online.com offline-news: 22:25 UTC Deployment is still underway. EVE Websites will return to service in 5 minutes and the expected time Tranquility will return to service is 23:30 UTC.

J Kunjeh Gallente	Posted - 2011.06.21 21:39:00 - [1161] I'm downloading it now via the client....guess it's up? ~Gnosis~
Herbalistick	Posted - 2011.06.21 21:41:00 - [1162] Ppl come here to write letters of complaint? lmfao. Jokers
Morgan Katarn	Posted - 2011.06.21 21:41:00 - [1163] test
Heath Inkura	Posted - 2011.06.21 21:42:00 - [1164] I am downloading now also :-)
Young Surian	Posted - 2011.06.21 21:42:00 - [1165] Bring the PEW PEW!
ifollowed through	Posted - 2011.06.21 21:43:00 - [1166] Originally by: Argnath eh looks like ccp invented a time machine to check out if stuff works -> last news from eve-online.com offline-news: 22:25 UTC Deployment is still underway. EVE Websites will return to service in 5 minutes and the expected time Tranquility will return to service is 23:30 UTC. this makes no sense, it seems like they are saying it's 22.25 UTC and the forums will be up in 5 mins and TQ in 1 hour, but that msg went up at 21.25 UTC (it's actually 21.43 UTC now... what does it all mean ??
Herbalistick	Posted - 2011.06.21 21:43:00 - [1167] I can confirm that client is downloading
Mystas Gaterau	Posted - 2011.06.21 21:45:00 - [1168] Originally by: ifollowed through Originally by: Argnath eh looks like ccp invented a time machine to check out if stuff works -> last news from eve-online.com offline-news: 22:25 UTC Deployment is still underway. EVE Websites will return to service in 5 minutes and the expected time Tranquility will return to service is 23:30 UTC. this makes no sense, it seems like they are saying it's 22.25 UTC and the forums will be up in 5 mins and TQ in 1 hour, but that msg went up at 21.25 UTC (it's actually 21.43 UTC now... what does it all mean ?? that mean CCP lives in wormhole wheres distorted time continuum and they send msg to past
Consortium Agent	Posted - 2011.06.21 21:45:00 - [1169] doh. Lost some posts there CCP ;P Just when I was about to +1 the cheesy toast too ;)
Derik Istvan	Posted - 2011.06.21 21:45:00 - [1170] You know what I love? The fact that, given 13 hours of downtime, all these people spent their time posting in the forums, rather than, say, going and playing other games, taking a walk, doing laundry, working, or any other of that useful ***gotry. To everyone here who's posted more than 4 times over the course of this thread (And not all at once): Congratulations. I award you the Golden Ibis of Dedication. Because instead of doing, well, anything, really, you stuck it out on the forums during DT. Congratulations.

MF Machiavelli Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic	Posted - 2011.06.21 21:46:00 - [1171] wow the site is up when you guys claimed it would be, most impressive!
Glyken Touchon Gallente Independent Alchemists	Posted - 2011.06.21 21:46:00 - [1172] Edited by: Glyken Touchon on 21/06/2011 21:47:50 For some reason I don't believe you. Originally by: DarkestHeart CCP, I've been playing tihs game for around 7 years now, and every single time a major update comes out it is delayed. <snip> Just an example, I setup a skill to run which would allow me enough time to log back into the game in the two hours free I get per day, after DT and set another skill. So, going by how "every single time a major update comes out it is delayed", you still only give yourself 2 hours leeway? Do you also advise your clients to ignore historical experience/evidence? Now for something lighthearted and appropriate that you've all seen before. ______ When the forums asked CCP for transparency, we didn't mean the HUD...
Herbalistick	Posted - 2011.06.21 21:46:00 - [1173] mmmm cheese on toast
Dezolf Minmatar DAX Action Stance	Posted - 2011.06.21 21:47:00 - [1174] Best CCP troll. After 38(+) pages of whine, they just kill the forums. ;D I wish they'd do this every time. :P
Rigamrts	Posted - 2011.06.21 21:47:00 - [1175] Originally by: ifollowed through Originally by: Argnath eh looks like ccp invented a time machine to check out if stuff works -> last news from eve-online.com offline-news: 22:25 UTC Deployment is still underway. EVE Websites will return to service in 5 minutes and the expected time Tranquility will return to service is 23:30 UTC. this makes no sense, it seems like they are saying it's 22.25 UTC and the forums will be up in 5 mins and TQ in 1 hour, but that msg went up at 21.25 UTC (it's actually 21.43 UTC now... what does it all mean ?? 22.25 is bst it not the future just who ever posted had it set to bts
Derik Istvan	Posted - 2011.06.21 21:48:00 - [1176] Originally by: Rigamrts Originally by: ifollowed through Originally by: Argnath eh looks like ccp invented a time machine to check out if stuff works -> last news from eve-online.com offline-news: 22:25 UTC Deployment is still underway. EVE Websites will return to service in 5 minutes and the expected time Tranquility will return to service is 23:30 UTC. this makes no sense, it seems like they are saying it's 22.25 UTC and the forums will be up in 5 mins and TQ in 1 hour, but that msg went up at 21.25 UTC (it's actually 21.43 UTC now... what does it all mean ?? 22.25 is bst it not the future just who ever posted had it set to bts I like the wormhole theory better :(
Amariku	Posted - 2011.06.21 21:48:00 - [1177] Originally by: cizzah Originally by: Xiang Akachi Ok I got a better idea for the rage spammers to argue about... Cheese Toast or Dynasty Gundam... discussion go! As long as it's not effing marmite... what if it was a marmite eating cheese toast
Roman 4epHega	Posted - 2011.06.21 21:49:00 - [1178] Originally by: Derik Istvan You know what I love? The fact that, given 13 hours of downtime, all these people spent their time posting in the forums, rather than, say, going and playing other games, taking a walk, doing laundry, working, or any other of that useful *gotry. To everyone here who's posted more than 4 times over the course of this thread (And not all at once): Congratulations. I award you the Golden Ibis of Dedication. Because instead of doing, well, anything, really, you stuck it out on the forums during DT. Congratulations. lol i litrely peed myself a tiny bit just imagening all them s sitting there for 13 hours ***ing and watching the forums
Rigamrts	Posted - 2011.06.21 21:49:00 - [1179] Originally by: Herbalistick mmmm cheese on toast yeah we ran out of crackers a while ago. but the whine is pouring like a MOFO
Ptraci	Posted - 2011.06.21 21:50:00 - [1180] Ahh, I love the smell of whining on update days. CCP, I really don't care whether you turn this game into "The Sims in Space" or not, but please, please please keep the updates coming. I need to read about more tears!

Evlyna Gallente Federal Navy Academy	Posted - 2011.06.21 21:50:00 - [1181] Damn... forgot my laundry.
Habare	Posted - 2011.06.21 21:50:00 - [1182] very successful song, fits perfectly
Herbalistick	Posted - 2011.06.21 21:51:00 - [1183] mmmmmm marmite and cheese on toast
Derik Istvan	Posted - 2011.06.21 21:51:00 - [1184] Originally by: Evlyna Damn... forgot my laundry. 'Course you did. I haven't done laundry in two months (I have too many clothes) and I spent today doing laundry. (Just in time, too, I was wearing my last pair of clean underwear!
Five 0ne	Posted - 2011.06.21 21:51:00 - [1185] log in on the 24'th, download 6 more patches, then play on a side note holy crap the maller looks awesome
Den Poruks	Posted - 2011.06.21 21:51:00 - [1186] Breakfast time for me, 7:46am and the patch is downloading while I watch the morning news with a nice hot cup of coffee. The day awaits me which hopefully involves internet spaceships
praying mantis01 Macabre Votum Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2011.06.21 21:51:00 - [1187] Edited by: praying mantis01 on 21/06/2011 21:53:12 Will the captains quarters be wheel chair accessible as i am a wheel chair user and will feel discriminated and feel like a second class citizen if this is not the case.
Rigamrts	Posted - 2011.06.21 21:52:00 - [1188] Originally by: praying mantis01 Will the captains quarters be wheel chair acessable as i am a wheel chair user and willbe feel discriminated and feel like a second class citizen if this is not the case. in space they give you cyborg implants
Derik Istvan	Posted - 2011.06.21 21:53:00 - [1189] Originally by: praying mantis01 Will the captains quarters be wheel chair acessable as i am a wheel chair user and willbe feel discriminated and feel like a second class citizen if this is not the case. Of course it is... except for that ladder leading down to your pod. Sorry bud, but you're stuck in station nao! D:
Ptraci	Posted - 2011.06.21 21:53:00 - [1190] Originally by: praying mantis01 Will the captains quarters be wheel chair acessable as i am a wheel chair user and willbe feel discriminated and feel like a second class citizen if this is not the case. Yes, but first they need a patch to chop off your virtual legs. You'll probably need to start training "Wheelchair IV" and "Invisibility III", also. Start now.

Herbalistick	Posted - 2011.06.21 21:53:00 - [1191] Wonders if his captains quarters will have tea and crumpets
praying mantis01 Macabre Votum Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2011.06.21 21:54:00 - [1192] space goldfish ftw
Morgan Katarn	Posted - 2011.06.21 21:54:00 - [1193] the intro is nice
Rigamrts	Posted - 2011.06.21 21:55:00 - [1194] Originally by: Herbalistick Wonders if his captains quarters will have tea and crumpets Mine will have pizza and beer
Derik Istvan	Posted - 2011.06.21 21:55:00 - [1195] AHHHHHH ALMOSTDONEINSTALLING AAAAAAAH! SO CLOSE I CAN TASTE IT!!!!!!!! and touch it... lovingly.... all night long...
Kherho Sin	Posted - 2011.06.21 21:56:00 - [1196] ty ccp for wasting my time, waiting for your promised time to play the game i pay for with 3 accounts... i am programmer too... so if i start with a "time of realease" 17:00 UTC and i screw up to 01:44... you guys just have your jobs on 22 june becouse youre lucky to work on a game basin on "skills take years to get". otherwise you all get workless!!! alliance tournament, youtube channels, fanfestival... "we are sorrys" every 1h couse you dont work as thought and promised.. thats all,but not professional. learn to get your work done when its needed. again: if your game is not based on timebased skills you all get fired!! yeah i am such an idiot, not workin for ccp
VisKerric	Posted - 2011.06.21 21:57:00 - [1197] Originally by: Rigamrts Originally by: Herbalistick Wonders if his captains quarters will have tea and crumpets Mine will have pizza and beer Mine will have slaves and mindflood... :D
Mr Pikey Caldari	Posted - 2011.06.21 21:57:00 - [1198] 21:55 We have discovered an issue with the Mac client patch. If you are a Mac client user, we strongly advise that you do not patch your EVE Online client at this time. This issue is being fixed and we will update you as soon as the issue has been resolved.
Dako Semi	Posted - 2011.06.21 21:57:00 - [1199] 21:55 We have discovered an issue with the Mac client patch. If you are a Mac client user, we strongly advise that you do not patch your EVE Online client at this time. This issue is being fixed and we will update you as soon as the issue has been resolved. http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1532385
Herbalistick	Posted - 2011.06.21 21:57:00 - [1200] #cough tosser

Maul555 Amarr Reliables Inc BricK sQuAD.	Posted - 2011.06.21 21:59:00 - [1201] Auto-patching is working, but I am already at incarna 1.0. CCP said they have another patch already ready to fix stuff in incarna 1.0... When can I expect that update? The EVE Personality Test
Derik Istvan	Posted - 2011.06.21 21:59:00 - [1202] Originally by: Kherho Sin ty ccp for wasting my time, waiting for your promised time to play the game i pay for with 3 accounts... i am programmer too... so if i start with a "time of realease" 17:00 UTC and i screw up to 01:44... you guys just have your jobs on 22 june becouse youre lucky to work on a game basin on "skills take years to get". otherwise you all get workless!!! alliance tournament, youtube channels, fanfestival... "we are sorrys" every 1h couse you dont work as thought and promised.. thats all,but not professional. learn to get your work done when its needed. again: if your game is not based on timebased skills you all get fired!! yeah i am such an idiot, not workin for ccp The level of butthurt in this post is unbelievable... It's over Nine THOUSAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAND!
Reilina Starwind	Posted - 2011.06.21 22:00:00 - [1203] Edited by: Reilina Starwind on 21/06/2011 22:00:34 I want a damn cookie for all this waiting time...oh well laundry is done had a nice lunch if it comes up before time for work i will check it out if not will after work everyone needs to calm down it gonna be buggy enough as is why rush um so the bugs get really bad and the hamsters eat our ships.... jus sayin
SPACESHIPS LAWYER	Posted - 2011.06.21 22:01:00 - [1204] I patched my mac just now and it deleted my os install and upon reboot it appears smoke coming out of my imac and very loud noises. WTF CCP! Btw, do i get skillpoint reimbursement??
Young Surian	Posted - 2011.06.21 22:01:00 - [1205] You're through the looking glass
Kelnarn Shaelingrath Caldari River-Rats in space The Ditanian Alliance	Posted - 2011.06.21 22:01:00 - [1206] Originally by: Five 0ne log in on the 24'th, download 6 more patches, then play on a side note holy crap the maller looks awesome LOL +1 and yes, the maller DOES look "awesome", so do the gun animations :P o/ K.S.
Cluck Trent	Posted - 2011.06.21 22:01:00 - [1207] Originally by: Khali Soo OK I can't possibly read all 37 (ATM) pages on this thread, but - What a bunch of Whiney babypants you all are! Is this NOT the best, most intricate, immerse MMORPG in existence on the pathetic planet called EARTH???? WTF do you expect from a shining example of collaborative,State-of-the-art, bleeding-edge, technology that is EVE?? I am repeatedly drawing parallels with other paradigm shifting technology. Computer tech (on your desktop) is less than 30 years old. Consider the automobile technology +30 years. One needed to be a mechanic to keep they're Model A Ford streetworthy. Computer tech is still in it's infancy. Stop pretending it's like your TV, and get real!! Problems happen; deal with it! And for GOD"S SAKE -- STFU!!! Whiney Babypants!!!! +1 bazillion internets for you, madam!!!
Ptraci	Posted - 2011.06.21 22:02:00 - [1208] Originally by: Mr Pikey 21:55 We have discovered an issue with the Mac client patch. If you are a Mac client user, we strongly advise that you do not patch your EVE Online client at this time. This issue is being fixed and we will update you as soon as the issue has been resolved. Poetic. This gets better and better. And my daughter INSISTED she needed an $1800 Mac Book because, they're just so much better than PC's. Sorry Mac boys, don't worry, you'll get to play eventually. Go do stuff with Final Cut pro or whatever it was that you absolutely had to buy a Mac for.
Derik Istvan	Posted - 2011.06.21 22:03:00 - [1209] Originally by: SPACESHIPS LAWYER I patched my mac just now and it deleted my os install and upon reboot it appears smoke coming out of my imac and very loud noises. WTF CCP! Btw, do i get skillpoint reimbursement?? Rofl
ash cormac Caldari NEXUS.LLC	Posted - 2011.06.21 22:03:00 - [1210] Forgot I had a skill finishing earlier.. Oops Download currently at 400MB - cmon!

FASTTRACKS0 Caldari Aeon Illuminati	Posted - 2011.06.21 22:03:00 - [1211] Hey all... Guess what... Chicken Butt!!!
Mystas Gaterau	Posted - 2011.06.21 22:03:00 - [1212] CCP next time announce 24h maintaince, you will have enough time to do your job and if you will finish it faster ppl will be even happy that server is going sooner than expected
Reilina Starwind	Posted - 2011.06.21 22:04:00 - [1213] OH BTW i want a damn hamster to put in my CQ dadgumit that would be an epic gift for us CCP
Lieutenant Scott	Posted - 2011.06.21 22:04:00 - [1214] Originally by: SuZiE DeMaRcHi Blah blah blah Cry me a ffs river grow up and upgrade ohterwise go back to mario bros from the 90's A) You can't just put 'ffs' anywhere you want to in a sentence, even slang has proper grammatical usage ... For this, you fail. B) Mario Brothers came out in the 80's young buck ... good job trying to sound grown up though ... For this, you fail ... twice.
Kherho Sin	Posted - 2011.06.21 22:05:00 - [1215] Originally by: Derik Istvan Originally by: Kherho Sin ty ccp for wasting my time, waiting for your promised time to play the game i pay for with 3 accounts... i am programmer too... so if i start with a "time of realease" 17:00 UTC and i screw up to 01:44... you guys just have your jobs on 22 june becouse youre lucky to work on a game basin on "skills take years to get". otherwise you all get workless!!! alliance tournament, youtube channels, fanfestival... "we are sorrys" every 1h couse you dont work as thought and promised.. thats all,but not professional. learn to get your work done when its needed. again: if your game is not based on timebased skills you all get fired!! yeah i am such an idiot, not workin for ccp The level of butthurt in this post is unbelievable... so what in my post is butthurt if you dont work for ccp? do you have any idea about this? you comment sounds more like a creep as*.. It's over Nine THOUSAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAND!
Justified Freedom	Posted - 2011.06.21 22:05:00 - [1216] OMG, just downloaded the client, am now getting a message saying that my graphics card is out of date, and the client closes. Does that mean i am goosed??????
Spacetaste	Posted - 2011.06.21 22:05:00 - [1217] Aight im to tired, this carnage is hopfully up when i get home from work tomorrow=)
Rigamrts	Posted - 2011.06.21 22:07:00 - [1218] Originally by: Justified Freedom OMG, just downloaded the client, am now getting a message saying that my graphics card is out of date, and the client closes. Does that mean i am goosed?????? goosed felt up and screwed without a kiss
Derik Istvan	Posted - 2011.06.21 22:07:00 - [1219] Originally by: Rigamrts Originally by: Justified Freedom OMG, just downloaded the client, am now getting a message saying that my graphics card is out of date, and the client closes. Does that mean i am goosed?????? goosed felt up and screwed without a kiss Goose me baby, goose me!
ashton wiler	Posted - 2011.06.21 22:08:00 - [1220] Originally by: Justified Freedom OMG, just downloaded the client, am now getting a message saying that my graphics card is out of date, and the client closes. Does that mean i am goosed?????? I don't know ask Google. Hopefully there is something you can do that will help you. Maybe a software update but might have to get yourself a new graphics card . Goodluck

Justified Freedom	Posted - 2011.06.21 22:08:00 - [1221] so i now have to upgrade my pc just to get online, that sucks, full stop!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Derik Istvan	Posted - 2011.06.21 22:09:00 - [1222] Originally by: Justified Freedom so i now have to upgrade my pc just to get online, that sucks, full stop!!!!!!!!!!!!! What terrible graphics card were you using? Seriously, this is the 21st century, nobody keeps graphics cards more than a month, c'mon.....
Lieutenant Scott	Posted - 2011.06.21 22:11:00 - [1223] Originally by: Kherho Sin ty ccp for wasting my time, waiting for your promised time to play the game i pay for with 3 accounts... i am programmer too ... so if i start with a "time of realease" 17:00 UTC and i screw up to 01:44... you guys just have your jobs on 22 june becouse youre lucky to work on a game basin on "skills take years to get". otherwise you all get workless!!! alliance tournament, youtube channels, fanfestival... "we are sorrys" every 1h couse you dont work as thought and promised.. thats all,but not professional. learn to get your work done when its needed. again: if your game is not based on timebased skills you all get fired!! yeah i am such an idiot, not workin for ccp I have a very hard time believing you ... and for the love of god, if you're going to ***** about an entirely random series of crap ... at least try to spell SOMETHING right ... plizz?
Young Surian	Posted - 2011.06.21 22:11:00 - [1224] YARRRRRRR!!!
luvmehard Minmatar	Posted - 2011.06.21 22:12:00 - [1225] Still not up? Good. /me reaches for another bottle...
Rigamrts	Posted - 2011.06.21 22:12:00 - [1226] Originally by: Derik Istvan Originally by: Justified Freedom so i now have to upgrade my pc just to get online, that sucks, full stop!!!!!!!!!!!!! What terrible graphics card were you using? Seriously, this is the 21st century, nobody keeps graphics cards more than a month, c'mon..... not sure what card he's using cause my 5 year old nividia in the other room can run this game np
Kael Urth	Posted - 2011.06.21 22:12:00 - [1227] Originally by: Joy Mongaguarda People asking CCP to make the game less boring. People complaining about performance issues. People asking CCP to make CQ disable feature because it loads graphics, has no meaning in an MMO -RPG- (that is my favorite). People complaining other problems arent being solved because of the work in CQ. There is one major solution for all of this: Make CQ unavoidable, and very costy in terms of machine. Doing so, all the previous mentioned people really leave the game, and the people who bought their computer in this decade, and play MMO -RPG- because they like MMO -RPG- will be able to have a better game. My PC has around 2.5 years in my use, and still run 4 EVE instances at ease, and I havent upgraded this PC EVER. I agree EVE is boring lately, and it is boring because you cant really feel the excitement of being part of EVE universe because it has many "reality checks" to enable old pcs, button smashers and general whiners play it. About time EVE as a scifi MMORPG, started to gather SciFi fans and not WoW dropouts counting "arena ratings"(killboards) and bragging knowing it all and not knowing why you cant have a draenei warlock. A hint: EVE has became boring, among other reasons, preciselly because many of its players started ignoring the EVE universe and started making EVE "pew pew in space". You mean, disregard casuals? gasp But in all seriousness, eve has lost a ton of RP value, and it's really sad. Now it's LEETPVPSPACEPEW, Everyone hop in your vagabonds and drakes and ride! :l
Derik Istvan	Posted - 2011.06.21 22:14:00 - [1228] Originally by: Kherho Sin Originally by: Derik Istvan Originally by: Kherho Sin ty ccp for wasting my time, waiting for your promised time to play the game i pay for with 3 accounts... i am programmer too... so if i start with a "time of realease" 17:00 UTC and i screw up to 01:44... you guys just have your jobs on 22 june becouse youre lucky to work on a game basin on "skills take years to get". otherwise you all get workless!!! alliance tournament, youtube channels, fanfestival... "we are sorrys" every 1h couse you dont work as thought and promised.. thats all,but not professional. learn to get your work done when its needed. again: if your game is not based on timebased skills you all get fired!! yeah i am such an idiot, not workin for ccp The level of butthurt in this post is unbelievable... It's over Nine THOUSAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAND! so what in my post is butthurt if you dont work for ccp? do you have any idea about this? you comment sounds more like a creep as*.. Pretty much all of it.
Ranka Mei Caldari	Posted - 2011.06.21 22:15:00 - [1229] Originally by: Justified Freedom OMG, just downloaded the client, am now getting a message saying that my graphics card is out of date, and the client closes. Does that mean i am goosed?????? Yep, you're now an inclined plane wrapped helixly around a single axis, aka... screwed. It's like waking up one day, only to find out your unprobable Tengu that you've been training for for the last two years has suddenly been nerfed and made useless. Adapt or die, they tell us. --
SPACESHIPS LAWYER	Posted - 2011.06.21 22:15:00 - [1230] My new IMAC just literally exploded after patching. I was able to put out the fire on my desktop but I demand an explanation over this "patch". I am now using pc laptop from 6 years back to get online what is the justice of this?? This has gone from walking in stations to walking to the apple store maintenance department!!! WE DEMAND A SKILL POINT REIMBURSEMENT CCP!

devil dog2008	Posted - 2011.06.21 22:16:00 - [1231] ijust try to log on new eve download my laptop dose not sureport shader 3 so cant get back on to eve not all us have money to bye new laptop so can get back on to eve so think it time to bye to eve untill canfore new laptop think old eve was ok dont think need this new stuff
Kherho Sin	Posted - 2011.06.21 22:18:00 - [1232] Originally by: Lieutenant Scott Originally by: Kherho Sin ty ccp for wasting my time, waiting for your promised time to play the game i pay for with 3 accounts... i am programmer too ... so if i start with a "time of realease" 17:00 UTC and i screw up to 01:44... you guys just have your jobs on 22 june becouse youre lucky to work on a game basin on "skills take years to get". otherwise you all get workless!!! alliance tournament, youtube channels, fanfestival... "we are sorrys" every 1h couse you dont work as thought and promised.. thats all,but not professional. learn to get your work done when its needed. again: if your game is not based on timebased skills you all get fired!! yeah i am such an idiot, not workin for ccp I have a very hard time believing you ... and for the love of god, if you're going to ***** about an entirely random series of crap ... at least try to spell SOMETHING right ... plizz? no arguments but fooling me becouse my mainlanguage is not english... random series of crap? what exacly you mean? in my opinion youre just one of 9000 guys reasonable for ccp to do like they want.. common.. if any other company scews up the service you pay for you will be angry and tell them what you think about.. but again.. its a "years to skill game" you dont want to be too hard game
Rigamrts	Posted - 2011.06.21 22:18:00 - [1233] Originally by: devil dog2008 ijust try to log on new eve download my laptop dose not sureport shader 3 so cant get back on to eve not all us have money to bye new laptop so can get back on to eve so think it time to bye to eve untill canfore new laptop think old eve was ok dont think need this new stuff that's what you get for buying a lappy with an ati in it.
Derik Istvan	Posted - 2011.06.21 22:19:00 - [1234] Originally by: devil dog2008 ijust try to log on new eve download my laptop dose not sureport shader 3 so cant get back on to eve not all us have money to bye new laptop so can get back on to eve so think it time to bye to eve untill canfore new laptop think old eve was ok dont think need this new stuff Clearly you don't understand the concept of technology! WE NEED EVERYTHING! BELLS! WHISTLES! BAUBLES! I MUST HAVE IT ALL! LATEST DOODADS? YES PLEASE! (It's your fault for buying a laptop and/or being a kiddo that can't afford a decent PC)
Kherho Sin	Posted - 2011.06.21 22:20:00 - [1235] "randomly" loooooool... youre a noob?? is this the first time ccp act like that????
Christelle CoraFlorenza	Posted - 2011.06.21 22:20:00 - [1236] Originally by: Justified Freedom OMG, just downloaded the client, am now getting a message saying that my graphics card is out of date, and the client closes. Does that mean i am goosed?????? Why do you think Nvidia and EVGA and Alienware were so generous with advetising and "free stuff" at Tournament - you'll go crying to them for new hardware to run this client.. I know I will.. eventually.. because 8800GT is kind of slow already in dualscreen. Captains quarters FPS sucks even more, but luckily I can't get killed there.. yet. So I don't care.. yet.
Kael Urth	Posted - 2011.06.21 22:21:00 - [1237] Originally by: Derik Istvan Originally by: devil dog2008 ijust try to log on new eve download my laptop dose not sureport shader 3 so cant get back on to eve not all us have money to bye new laptop so can get back on to eve so think it time to bye to eve untill canfore new laptop think old eve was ok dont think need this new stuff Clearly you don't understand the concept of technology! WE NEED EVERYTHING! BELLS! WHISTLES! BAUBLES! I MUST HAVE IT ALL! LATEST DOODADS? YES PLEASE! (It's your fault for buying a laptop and/or being a kiddo that can't afford a decent PC) i lold at baubles. But seriously, laptops are a tarp. Pay more for less pfff
Rigamrts	Posted - 2011.06.21 22:21:00 - [1238] Originally by: Derik Istvan Originally by: devil dog2008 ijust try to log on new eve download my laptop dose not sureport shader 3 so cant get back on to eve not all us have money to bye new laptop so can get back on to eve so think it time to bye to eve untill canfore new laptop think old eve was ok dont think need this new stuff Clearly you don't understand the concept of technology! WE NEED EVERYTHING! BELLS! WHISTLES! BAUBLES! I MUST HAVE IT ALL! LATEST DOODADS? YES PLEASE! (It's your fault for buying a laptop and/or being a kiddo that can't afford a decent PC) he probably bought him off the clearance rack. cause my pc in the other room with the amd xp processor and the 5 year old grfx card can run this hands down.
StargateC0mmand	Posted - 2011.06.21 22:22:00 - [1239] OK so... Not sure if a Dev is reading this but it needs pretty urgent attention. I am running a Mac at the moment. Just tested on Sisi with the same patch going on to tq and we cannot right click any item or ship....we cannot change ship... FIX IT PLEASE
kosmetica	Posted - 2011.06.21 22:22:00 - [1240] the postage today has been awesome!! Huge thank you to the cast (including ccp) well.done.

Justified Freedom	Posted - 2011.06.21 22:22:00 - [1241] ok i know nothing about graphics card, but it is an asus 9800 series??? what do i need to get, dont want to pay to much :s thanks guys
Derik Istvan	Posted - 2011.06.21 22:22:00 - [1242] Originally by: Kherho Sin Originally by: Lieutenant Scott Originally by: Kherho Sin ty ccp for wasting my time, waiting for your promised time to play the game i pay for with 3 accounts... i am programmer too ... so if i start with a "time of realease" 17:00 UTC and i screw up to 01:44... you guys just have your jobs on 22 june becouse youre lucky to work on a game basin on "skills take years to get". otherwise you all get workless!!! alliance tournament, youtube channels, fanfestival... "we are sorrys" every 1h couse you dont work as thought and promised.. thats all,but not professional. learn to get your work done when its needed. again: if your game is not based on timebased skills you all get fired!! yeah i am such an idiot, not workin for ccp I have a very hard time believing you ... and for the love of god, if you're going to ***** about an entirely random series of crap ... at least try to spell SOMETHING right ... plizz? no arguments but fooling me becouse my mainlanguage is not english... random series of crap? what exacly you mean? in my opinion youre just one of 9000 guys reasonable for ccp to do like they want.. common.. if any other company scews up the service you pay for you will be angry and tell them what you think about.. but again.. its a "years to skill game" you dont want to be too hard game Translation: "WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA RAAAAAAAAAAGERAGERAGERAGERAGE! WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA"
olsted	Posted - 2011.06.21 22:22:00 - [1243] patch is up.
Herbalistick	Posted - 2011.06.21 22:23:00 - [1244] I bet my netbook can still play it lol
Mimulouse	Posted - 2011.06.21 22:23:00 - [1245] For a day of RL productivity, I want to say... Thank you!
akitespero	Posted - 2011.06.21 22:23:00 - [1246] Downloaded went OK (about 10 minutes including installation time) but TQ is not accepting connections. :(
Linolea Austrene	Posted - 2011.06.21 22:23:00 - [1247] Relevant graphics section of patch notes: Quote: AO is disabled on all video cards except NVIDIA cards. ILR is disabled on Windows XP machines that use ATI GPUÆs. Depth effects on Macs with ATI cards are disabled.
Rigamrts	Posted - 2011.06.21 22:23:00 - [1248] Originally by: Justified Freedom ok i know nothing about graphics card, but it is an asus 9800 series??? what do i need to get, dont want to pay to much :s thanks guys anything with a nvidia in DO NOT BUY ATI YOU WILL REGRET IT
Giant Secure Container	Posted - 2011.06.21 22:24:00 - [1249] I downloaded the new client, which puts up a blank EULA and tells me to "scroll to the end of the EULA to continue." I then have to force quit the client. I am waiting a long time for features I do not want, and probably can't use. I damn well better get a pony out of this.
Derik Istvan	Posted - 2011.06.21 22:24:00 - [1250] Originally by: Linolea Austrene Relevant graphics section of patch notes: Quote: AO is disabled on all video cards except NVIDIA cards. ILR is disabled on Windows XP machines that use ATI GPUÆs. Depth effects on Macs with ATI cards are disabled. BWAHAHAHAAHHA! JUST AS PLANNED!!!!

Ranka Mei Caldari	Posted - 2011.06.21 22:24:00 - [1251] Edited by: Ranka Mei on 21/06/2011 22:25:49 A lot of Russian/Chinese botters will be cleared out by today, for lack of decent hardware. At least I'm getting something useful out of this expansion. EDIT: Speaking of expansion, not seeing the client update that was to follow the patch. --
Kherho Sin	Posted - 2011.06.21 22:25:00 - [1252] Originally by: Derik Istvan Originally by: Kherho Sin Originally by: Lieutenant Scott Originally by: Kherho Sin ty ccp for wasting my time, waiting for your promised time to play the game i pay for with 3 accounts... i am programmer too ... so if i start with a "time of realease" 17:00 UTC and i screw up to 01:44... you guys just have your jobs on 22 june becouse youre lucky to work on a game basin on "skills take years to get". otherwise you all get workless!!! alliance tournament, youtube channels, fanfestival... "we are sorrys" every 1h couse you dont work as thought and promised.. thats all,but not professional. learn to get your work done when its needed. again: if your game is not based on timebased skills you all get fired!! yeah i am such an idiot, not workin for ccp I have a very hard time believing you ... and for the love of god, if you're going to ***** about an entirely random series of crap ... at least try to spell SOMETHING right ... plizz? no arguments but fooling me becouse my mainlanguage is not english... random series of crap? what exacly you mean? in my opinion youre just one of 9000 guys reasonable for ccp to do like they want.. common.. if any other company scews up the service you pay for you will be angry and tell them what you think about.. but again.. its a "years to skill game" you dont want to be too hard game Translation: "WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA RAAAAAAAAAAGERAGERAGERAGERAGE! WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA" well.. thats an argument i (and all others) can follow... stfu if you dont have more to show than your motherlanguage ;-)
Khanhid	Posted - 2011.06.21 22:25:00 - [1253] SOON!!
DGSix Kado	Posted - 2011.06.21 22:25:00 - [1254] Originally by: Rigamrts Originally by: devil dog2008 ijust try to log on new eve download my laptop dose not sureport shader 3 so cant get back on to eve not all us have money to bye new laptop so can get back on to eve so think it time to bye to eve untill canfore new laptop think old eve was ok dont think need this new stuff that's what you get for buying a lappy with an ati in it. AMEN use Nvidia OK Thanks !
avorus Amarr Dragon's Breath Security Force	Posted - 2011.06.21 22:26:00 - [1255] hmm... to go to bed and actually sleep nad go on eve in the morning or stay up and wait even longer to get onto it now... choices are hard, dammit ccp why make me do this to myself. but hey hte new maller design is epic just hope they do more like it :).
FASTTRACKS0 Caldari Aeon Illuminati	Posted - 2011.06.21 22:26:00 - [1256] Originally by: Rigamrts Originally by: Justified Freedom ok i know nothing about graphics card, but it is an asus 9800 series??? what do i need to get, dont want to pay to much :s thanks guys anything with a nvidia in DO NOT BUY ATI YOU WILL REGRET IT What do you have against ATI? I love my AMD/ATI rig; She does just fine.
Archibald Creed	Posted - 2011.06.21 22:26:00 - [1257] Will there be e new intro / Video?!? --------------------------------------------------
Sgt Jessa Hakaari	Posted - 2011.06.21 22:26:00 - [1258] Cant wait to see how good my ass looks in these pants when I walk, babaaaammmm. woot counting down while playing Black Ops
Rigamrts	Posted - 2011.06.21 22:26:00 - [1259] Lets all put the last nail in the coffin of ATI thy need to get with the program or be left behind
Alex Roggen	Posted - 2011.06.21 22:26:00 - [1260] Originally by: StargateC0mmand OK so... Not sure if a Dev is reading this but it needs pretty urgent attention. I am running a Mac at the moment. Just tested on Sisi with the same patch going on to tq and we cannot right click any item or ship....we cannot change ship... FIX IT PLEASE Didn't think MACs had a right or left button for the mouse... just one button.... lol... also you have a MAC... hahahah

ash cormac Caldari NEXUS.LLC	Posted - 2011.06.21 22:28:00 - [1261] An hour at least to wait until I can train skills again - damn you RL for robbing me of hours worth of training! At least the login screen looks pretty awesome..
Random27	Posted - 2011.06.21 22:28:00 - [1262] Originally by: Kherho Sin no arguments but fooling me becouse my mainlanguage is not english... random series of crap? what exacly you mean? in my opinion youre just one of 9000 guys reasonable for ccp to do like they want.. common.. if any other company scews up the service you pay for you will be angry and tell them what you think about.. but again.. its a "years to skill game" you dont want to be too hard game Are you seriously telling me that your first language doesn't have capitalisation and punctuation, and that you are incapable of running your post through an English spell checker if your grasp of the language is that shaky? Given such a clear display of lack of ingenuity, I seriously doubt you are really a programmer, or a competent one if you are. A word to the wise: copying-and-pasting Excel macros is not programming... Right, time to disengage my rage modules and slap some nano paste on 'em, they're starting to take heat damage...
Dewgong Amarr Viziam	Posted - 2011.06.21 22:28:00 - [1263] While I don't mind the long wait, and the login screen is quite nice, I think that it would be better in general to go back to two separate clients (akin to the old 'classic' and 'premium'). I remember having to void the warranty on my laptop to mess with the motherboard to even get Dominion to load up since I couldn't afford anything remotely newer. People's computers literally being fried is not the way to go. Please resize your signature to the maximum allowed of 400 x 120 pixels with a maximum file size of 24000 bytes.StevieSG.
Mysterious Soldier	Posted - 2011.06.21 22:29:00 - [1264] Originally by: SPACESHIPS LAWYER My new IMAC just literally exploded after patching. I was able to put out the fire on my desktop but I demand an explanation over this "patch". I am now using pc laptop from 6 years back to get online what is the justice of this?? This has gone from walking in stations to walking to the apple store maintenance department!!! WE DEMAND A SKILL POINT REIMBURSEMENT CCP! Lol! That's what happens when you put your underwear in the disk drive. Honestly, mac users these days. tsk tsk.
Rigamrts	Posted - 2011.06.21 22:29:00 - [1265] Edited by: Rigamrts on 21/06/2011 22:30:02 Originally by: FASTTRACKS0 Originally by: Rigamrts Originally by: Justified Freedom ok i know nothing about graphics card, but it is an asus 9800 series??? what do i need to get, dont want to pay to much :s thanks guys anything with a nvidia in DO NOT BUY ATI YOU WILL REGRET IT What do you have against ATI? I love my AMD/ATI rig; She does just fine. i have an issue with a company that doen't support shadder 3 the last time i had an ATI in a machine i tried to install the sims 3 for my wife and it spit it tounge at me.
Derik Istvan	Posted - 2011.06.21 22:29:00 - [1266] Originally by: Kherho Sin ty ccp for wasting my time, waiting for your promised time to play the game i pay for with 3 accounts... i am programmer too ... so if i start with a "time of realease" 17:00 UTC and i screw up to 01:44... you guys just have your jobs on 22 june becouse youre lucky to work on a game basin on "skills take years to get". otherwise you all get workless!!! alliance tournament, youtube channels, fanfestival... "we are sorrys" every 1h couse you dont work as thought and promised.. thats all,but not professional. learn to get your work done when its needed. again: if your game is not based on timebased skills you all get fired!! yeah i am such an idiot, not workin for cc<snip> well.. thats an argument i (and all others) can follow... stfu if you dont have more to show than your motherlanguage ;-) Очевидно, вы будете глупо. Claramente estß siendo tonto. Klar sind Sie zu dumm.
Carli Zandrya	Posted - 2011.06.21 22:30:00 - [1267] Originally by: Kherho Sin no arguments but fooling me becouse my mainlanguage is not english... random series of crap? what exacly you mean? in my opinion youre just one of 9000 guys reasonable for ccp to do like they want.. common.. if any other company scews up the service you pay for you will be angry and tell them what you think about.. but again.. its a "years to skill game" you dont want to be too hard game Seriously? Please, waste your text griping about something more meaningful in life, like matching socks. Maybe you should stop building your expectations so high so you won't be disappointed as often. have a nice day
SPACESHIPS LAWYER	Posted - 2011.06.21 22:30:00 - [1268] Originally by: StargateC0mmand OK so... Not sure if a Dev is reading this but it needs pretty urgent attention. I am running a Mac at the moment. Just tested on Sisi with the same patch going on to tq and we cannot right click any item or ship....we cannot change ship... FIX IT PLEASE Yeah well my IMAC exploded after patching and started an office fire. INSTEAD OF WALKING IN STATION I AM NOW WALKING TO THE APPLE STORE!!!
Christelle CoraFlorenza	Posted - 2011.06.21 22:30:00 - [1269] Originally by: Sgt Jessa Hakaari Cant wait to see how good my ass looks in these pants when I walk, babaaaammmm. ... Aren't we getting a wee bit too much into character.. ?
Neeke Oh'Lamarick	Posted - 2011.06.21 22:30:00 - [1270] Originally by: Mystas Gaterau CCP next time announce 24h maintaince, you will have enough time to do your job and if you will finish it faster ppl will be even happy that server is going sooner than expected you must be new here ;]

Mr Pikey Caldari	Posted - 2011.06.21 22:30:00 - [1271] Originally by: StargateC0mmand OK so... Not sure if a Dev is reading this but it needs pretty urgent attention. I am running a Mac at the moment. Just tested on Sisi with the same patch going on to tq and we cannot right click any item or ship....we cannot change ship... FIX IT PLEASE Did you see this? 21:55 We have discovered an issue with the Mac client patch. If you are a Mac client user, we strongly advise that you do not patch your EVE Online client at this time. This issue is being fixed and we will update you as soon as the issue has been resolved.
Random27	Posted - 2011.06.21 22:31:00 - [1272] Originally by: Alex Roggen Originally by: StargateC0mmand OK so... Not sure if a Dev is reading this but it needs pretty urgent attention. I am running a Mac at the moment. Just tested on Sisi with the same patch going on to tq and we cannot right click any item or ship....we cannot change ship... FIX IT PLEASE Didn't think MACs had a right or left button for the mouse... just one button.... lol... also you have a MAC... hahahah "Flame bait dropped Captain" "Okay, soldier, retire to a safe distance and engage your cloak, this is sure to bring them in..."
Derik Istvan	Posted - 2011.06.21 22:32:00 - [1273] Originally by: Random27 Originally by: Alex Roggen Originally by: StargateC0mmand OK so... Not sure if a Dev is reading this but it needs pretty urgent attention. I am running a Mac at the moment. Just tested on Sisi with the same patch going on to tq and we cannot right click any item or ship....we cannot change ship... FIX IT PLEASE Didn't think MACs had a right or left button for the mouse... just one button.... lol... also you have a MAC... hahahah "Flame bait dropped Captain" "Okay, soldier, retire to a safe distance and engage your cloak, this is sure to bring them in..." I want to have your baby.
Sheila Shenrose	Posted - 2011.06.21 22:33:00 - [1274] Originally by: ash cormac An hour at least to wait until I can train skills again - damn you RL for robbing me of hours worth of training! At least the login screen looks pretty awesome.. ... since about 8 years, ccp is advising us to put on skills during patch days that run for more than 1day
avorus Amarr Dragon's Breath Security Force	Posted - 2011.06.21 22:33:00 - [1275] ccp probably cant do anything just from the sheer ammount of people trolling this forum page its lagging them out. lol
Archibald Creed	Posted - 2011.06.21 22:33:00 - [1276] jeah, my iMac is burning anyway... thx to seti@home --------------------------------------------------
Rigamrts	Posted - 2011.06.21 22:34:00 - [1277] Originally by: Derik Istvan Originally by: Random27 Originally by: Alex Roggen Originally by: StargateC0mmand OK so... Not sure if a Dev is reading this but it needs pretty urgent attention. I am running a Mac at the moment. Just tested on Sisi with the same patch going on to tq and we cannot right click any item or ship....we cannot change ship... FIX IT PLEASE Didn't think MACs had a right or left button for the mouse... just one button.... lol... also you have a MAC... hahahah "Flame bait dropped Captain" "Okay, soldier, retire to a safe distance and engage your cloak, this is sure to bring them in..." I want to have your baby. somewhere mac fanboys are watching their machines go up in flames while we poke fun at em
syrus mac	Posted - 2011.06.21 22:34:00 - [1278] Originally by: Sgt Jessa Hakaari Cant wait to see how good my ass looks in these pants when I walk, babaaaammmm. woot counting down while playing Black Ops For gods sake hurry up, I also want to look at Jessa's ass!
Reilina Starwind	Posted - 2011.06.21 22:34:00 - [1279] AH HA!!!!!! it was a conspiracy between CCP, apple, and nvidia to make us all buy new computers NOW WE KNOW THE TRUTH!!!!!! And knowing is half the battle
akitespero	Posted - 2011.06.21 22:34:00 - [1280] Originally by: Rigamrts Lets all put the last nail in the coffin of ATI thy need to get with the program or be left behind Intro screen looks great with max graphics except anti aliasing and post processing on my ATI 5700 (activating any of these two settings bogs my graphics though).

Henri Drake	Posted - 2011.06.21 22:35:00 - [1281] Originally by: devil dog2008 ijust try to log on new eve download my laptop dose not sureport shader 3 so cant get back on to eve not all us have money to bye new laptop so can get back on to eve so think it time to bye to eve untill canfore new laptop think old eve was ok dont think need this new stuff Are you the guy from Zeropunctuation (http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/zero-punctuation)? Man Im a huge fan. Keep up the good work on your reviews.
Derik Istvan	Posted - 2011.06.21 22:35:00 - [1282] Originally by: avorus ccp probably cant do anything just from the sheer ammount of people trolling this forum page its lagging them out. lol Trolling? Where. Our logs show nothing.
Jolinarr Ekhbat'th Caldari Kebec corporation L'Empire du reve exiler	Posted - 2011.06.21 22:36:00 - [1283] Edited by: Jolinarr Ekhbat''th on 21/06/2011 22:41:42 Well...... 22H32. Patch downloaded....ok But TQ's still no accepting connection.... And Mac users are damned.... CCP what the hell are you doing in your Iceland??? I guess I should go to bed... Tomorrow is another story.
charlie Anstian	Posted - 2011.06.21 22:36:00 - [1284] Edited by: charlie Anstian on 21/06/2011 22:38:26 downloading the patch... I live in England been a long wait.... I was even thinking about getting a job... when is it going live.. i mean when can we log in..
Erin Sun	Posted - 2011.06.21 22:37:00 - [1285] its...not...working!
Jaen D'arc	Posted - 2011.06.21 22:37:00 - [1286] 21:55 We have discovered an issue with the Mac client patch. If you are a Mac client user, we strongly advise that you do not patch your EVE Online client at this time. This issue is being fixed and we will update you as soon as the issue has been resolved. haha, MAC users choose the hard way, and they got it - muhahahahahaha
Tom Carbett	Posted - 2011.06.21 22:37:00 - [1287] This is exactly why everyone is outsourcing their software development and support to india and not to iceland. Good job
Derik Istvan	Posted - 2011.06.21 22:37:00 - [1288] Originally by: Jolinarr Ekhbat'th Well...... 22H32. Patch downloaded....ok But TQ's still no accepting connection.... And Mac users are damned.... CCP what the hell what are you doing in your Iceland??? Fapping.
ash cormac Caldari NEXUS.LLC	Posted - 2011.06.21 22:38:00 - [1289] Originally by: Sheila Shenrose Originally by: ash cormac An hour at least to wait until I can train skills again - damn you RL for robbing me of hours worth of training! At least the login screen looks pretty awesome.. ... since about 8 years, ccp is advising us to put on skills during patch days that run for more than 1day And for the past 3 years that's what I've done, only this time I was busy doing real things and forgot about all this update nonsense. Wonder how much my training downtime could be measured in real money.. Hmmm Not blaming anyone but me anyway! Still
Reilina Starwind	Posted - 2011.06.21 22:38:00 - [1290] Originally by: Jaen D'arc 21:55 We have discovered an issue with the Mac client patch. If you are a Mac client user, we strongly advise that you do not patch your EVE Online client at this time. This issue is being fixed and we will update you as soon as the issue has been resolved. haha, MAC users choose the hard way, and they got it - muhahahahahaha Still say its a conspiracy

Ptraci	Posted - 2011.06.21 22:39:00 - [1291] Originally by: Jolinarr Ekhbat'th CCP what the hell what are you doing in your Iceland??? By the way: EVE is hosted in the UK, and has been for some time.
Carli Zandrya	Posted - 2011.06.21 22:39:00 - [1292] Originally by: Christelle CoraFlorenza Originally by: Sgt Jessa Hakaari Cant wait to see how good my ass looks in these pants when I walk, babaaaammmm. ... Aren't we getting a wee bit too much into character.. ? Almost as good as mine in a skirt! HOTMOMMA!!
Erin Sun	Posted - 2011.06.21 22:39:00 - [1293] is there an ETA? they are kinda overdue as it is :(
Jaen D'arc	Posted - 2011.06.21 22:39:00 - [1294] Originally by: Jolinarr Ekhbat'th Well...... 22H32. Patch downloaded....ok But TQ's still no accepting connection.... And Mac users are damned.... CCP what the hell what are you doing in your Iceland??? smoking pot ?
Iago TwoHeart	Posted - 2011.06.21 22:41:00 - [1295] OMFG the new maller looks awesome!! I DEMAND 24 hours more downtime so minmatar ships get a makeover too!!! stop being racist!! on another note, was the design a starship contest in vain? where are our new ships??
Kherho Sin	Posted - 2011.06.21 22:41:00 - [1296] so pass mal auf du kleiner "scheier". meine sprache ist deutsch, und in dieser red ich dich kleinen volldioten in grund und boden. ihr amis glaubt wohl ihr seit die spitze der evolution weil ihr eure sprache besser beherrscht als andere... ich programmiere seit jahren.. du kannst mir wahrscheinlich nicht mal das wasser reichen wenn ich besoffen in nem teich pulslos rumtreib. ich finde es immer extrem abartig wenn so spackos sich hier ccp freundliche statements abzugeben trauen, wenn hier GANZ offensichtlicher bl÷dsinn betrieben wird. macht eure arbeit fnr die ihr VON UNS geld bekommt! ich bin seit 4 jahren bei eve, und immer finden sich idioten die meinen ccp handelt branchennblich... nochmal : "in jeder anderen firem gibts ab dem 22. juni K_NIGUNGSSCHREIBEN!!!!
Newton Gwyn	Posted - 2011.06.21 22:41:00 - [1297] I think we should start a fund for those Icelandic children waiting for a bedtime story who were told their daddy would be home at 1700 tonight. Remember think of the children
Mr Pikey Caldari	Posted - 2011.06.21 22:42:00 - [1298] Originally by: Jolinarr Ekhbat'th Well...... 22H32. Patch downloaded....ok But TQ's still no accepting connection.... And Mac users are damned.... CCP what the hell what are you doing in your Iceland??? If they are in Iceland (the shop) they are most likely buying frozen Pizza and getting in the beers ready for a long night. The servers as far as I know are in the Docklands data centre in London, so they might have nipped round to Soho for a bit of light relief (so to speak).
Reilina Starwind	Posted - 2011.06.21 22:42:00 - [1299] Ya know what I think happened? I think the hamsters went on strike due to now haveing to run at OVER 9000!!! rpm, and the devs are trying to find enough lil furries to power the cluster now.....
Rigamrts	Posted - 2011.06.21 22:44:00 - [1300] Originally by: Mr Pikey Originally by: Jolinarr Ekhbat'th Well...... 22H32. Patch downloaded....ok But TQ's still no accepting connection.... And Mac users are damned.... CCP what the hell what are you doing in your Iceland??? If they are in Iceland (the shop) they are most likely buying frozen Pizza and getting in the beers ready for a long night. The servers as far as I know are in the Docklands data centre in London, so they might have nipped round to Soho for a bit of light relief (so to speak). i know what happened the cricket match went into overtime while they where on break.

Derik Istvan	Posted - 2011.06.21 22:44:00 - [1301] Originally by: Kherho Sin so pass mal auf du kleiner "scheier". meine sprache ist deutsch, und in dieser red ich dich kleinen volldioten in grund und boden. ihr amis glaubt wohl ihr seit die spitze der evolution weil ihr eure sprache besser beherrscht als andere... ich programmiere seit jahren.. du kannst mir wahrscheinlich nicht mal das wasser reichen wenn ich besoffen in nem teich pulslos rumtreib. ich finde es immer extrem abartig wenn so spackos sich hier ccp freundliche statements abzugeben trauen, wenn hier GANZ offensichtlicher bl÷dsinn betrieben wird. macht eure arbeit fnr die ihr VON UNS geld bekommt! ich bin seit 4 jahren bei eve, und immer finden sich idioten die meinen ccp handelt branchennblich... nochmal : "in jeder anderen firem gibts ab dem 22. juni K_NIGUNGSSCHREIBEN!!!! Auch in Deutsch du Grammatik ist schrecklich. Und hast du nicht geh÷rt, dass alle Programmierer besser abschneiden, wShrend sie betrunken?
charlie Anstian	Posted - 2011.06.21 22:44:00 - [1302] Originally by: Kherho Sin so pass mal auf du kleiner "scheier". meine sprache ist deutsch, und in dieser red ich dich kleinen volldioten in grund und boden. ihr amis glaubt wohl ihr seit die spitze der evolution weil ihr eure sprache besser beherrscht als andere... ich programmiere seit jahren.. du kannst mir wahrscheinlich nicht mal das wasser reichen wenn ich besoffen in nem teich pulslos rumtreib. ich finde es immer extrem abartig wenn so spackos sich hier ccp freundliche statements abzugeben trauen, wenn hier GANZ offensichtlicher bl÷dsinn betrieben wird. macht eure arbeit fnr die ihr VON UNS geld bekommt! ich bin seit 4 jahren bei eve, und immer finden sich idioten die meinen ccp handelt branchennblich... nochmal : "in jeder anderen firem gibts ab dem 22. juni K_NIGUNGSSCHREIBEN!!!! I agree 100%.. I think
Dil'e Mahn Gallente The Bastards The Bastards.	Posted - 2011.06.21 22:45:00 - [1303] Originally by: Iago TwoHeart OMFG the new maller looks awesome!! I DEMAND 24 hours more downtime so minmatar ships get a makeover too!!! stop being racist!! on another note, was the design a starship contest in vain? where are our new ships?? Agreed on the Maller, this has to be one of the more entertaining login screens I've seen in Eve so far (started playing right before Tyrannis rolled out). BTW, the Caldari already had their new Scorp, and now there's the new Maller for the Amarr, shinier drones for the Gallente, and the Minmatar... well, everybody's going to be looking at a Minnie CQ for a while, so I'd say everybody got something. =] -- Blowing up for fun and profit. Well, for fun anyway.
Random27	Posted - 2011.06.21 22:45:00 - [1304] Originally by: Rigamrts Originally by: Derik Istvan Originally by: Random27 Originally by: Alex Roggen Didn't think MACs had a right or left button for the mouse... just one button.... lol... also you have a MAC... hahahah "Flame bait dropped Captain" "Okay, soldier, retire to a safe distance and engage your cloak, this is sure to bring them in..." I want to have your baby. somewhere mac fanboys are watching their machines go up in flames while we poke fun at em Great isn't it. Don't worry though, if they start getting nasty, just wave something shiny in front of them, and tell them they can have it but they'll have to buy the new one with the slightly different bling in three months' time...
Lord Khelben Amarr Wildly Inappropriate Wildly Inappropriate.	Posted - 2011.06.21 22:45:00 - [1305] Originally by: Derik Istvan Originally by: Jolinarr Ekhbat'th Well...... 22H32. Patch downloaded....ok But TQ's still no accepting connection.... And Mac users are damned.... CCP what the hell what are you doing in your Iceland??? Fapping. ^^^ this.
Ranka Mei Caldari	Posted - 2011.06.21 22:46:00 - [1306] Originally by: Kherho Sin so pass mal auf du kleiner "scheier". meine sprache ist deutsch, und in dieser red ich dich kleinen volldioten in grund und boden. ihr amis glaubt wohl ihr seit die spitze der evolution weil ihr eure sprache besser beherrscht als andere... ich programmiere seit jahren.. du kannst mir wahrscheinlich nicht mal das wasser reichen wenn ich besoffen in nem teich pulslos rumtreib. ich finde es immer extrem abartig wenn so spackos sich hier ccp freundliche statements abzugeben trauen, wenn hier GANZ offensichtlicher bl÷dsinn betrieben wird. macht eure arbeit fnr die ihr VON UNS geld bekommt! ich bin seit 4 jahren bei eve, und immer finden sich idioten die meinen ccp handelt branchennblich... nochmal : "in jeder anderen firem gibts ab dem 22. juni K_NIGUNGSSCHREIBEN!!!! It's a bit of an irony, don't ya think, that German, your mother tongue, is actually known for capatalizing all nouns; and yet all you can do is use your caps for SCREAMING. School must not be any more what it used to be. :) --
Lifekiller	Posted - 2011.06.21 22:46:00 - [1307] Originally by: Kherho Sin so pass mal auf du kleiner "scheier". meine sprache ist deutsch, und in dieser red ich dich kleinen volldioten in grund und boden. ihr amis glaubt wohl ihr seit die spitze der evolution weil ihr eure sprache besser beherrscht als andere... ich programmiere seit jahren.. du kannst mir wahrscheinlich nicht mal das wasser reichen wenn ich besoffen in nem teich pulslos rumtreib. ich finde es immer extrem abartig wenn so spackos sich hier ccp freundliche statements abzugeben trauen, wenn hier GANZ offensichtlicher bl÷dsinn betrieben wird. macht eure arbeit fnr die ihr VON UNS geld bekommt! ich bin seit 4 jahren bei eve, und immer finden sich idioten die meinen ccp handelt branchennblich... nochmal : "in jeder anderen firem gibts ab dem 22. juni K_NIGUNGSSCHREIBEN!!!! looool german griefer noob ^^ thats > = http://www.blogcdn.com/massively.joystiq.com/media/2011/05/griefer.jpg your way right?
Scarengath	Posted - 2011.06.21 22:47:00 - [1308] Well this has been a long day for ccp and it's still going! Hope the update finally behaves itself so you can all get some well deserved rest. If not, smack it on the proverbial nose with the delete button... Anyhow...apart from the minor issue of not being able to admire my nightmare from the CQ, or see the pretty new laser effects, no complaints here. To all those whining about the time (of which I am SURE there are many) look out your nearest window. See that? Its called the "REAL WORLD" go explore it while you wait to return to your clone life within New Eden.
Drommy Gallente Blood Stained Angels	Posted - 2011.06.21 22:47:00 - [1309] Originally by: Mr Pikey Originally by: Jolinarr Ekhbat'th Well...... 22H32. Patch downloaded....ok But TQ's still no accepting connection.... And Mac users are damned.... CCP what the hell what are you doing in your Iceland??? If they are in Iceland (the shop) they are most likely buying frozen Pizza and getting in the beers ready for a long night. The servers as far as I know are in the Docklands data centre in London, so they might have nipped round to Soho for a bit of light relief (so to speak). No wonder its taking so long then. "mum's go to iceland" ya see, there for its only girls testing and applying the patches, and if my gf is anything to go by (who thinks patches are what covers holes in clothing or what you call white cats with black eye's) then we could be waiting untill tomorrow...... we'll thats only 14 minutes away so i guess thats a given now anyway ROBS FROM THE POOR, KEEPS IT IN HIS WALLET. DROMMY HOOD! DROMMY HOOD! DROMMY HOOD!!!!
Kherho Sin	Posted - 2011.06.21 22:48:00 - [1310] Originally by: Derik Istvan Originally by: Kherho Sin so pass mal auf du kleiner "scheier". meine sprache ist deutsch, und in dieser red ich dich kleinen volldioten in grund und boden. ihr amis glaubt wohl ihr seit die spitze der evolution weil ihr eure sprache besser beherrscht als andere... ich programmiere seit jahren.. du kannst mir wahrscheinlich nicht mal das wasser reichen wenn ich besoffen in nem teich pulslos rumtreib. ich finde es immer extrem abartig wenn so spackos sich hier ccp freundliche statements abzugeben trauen, wenn hier GANZ offensichtlicher bl÷dsinn betrieben wird. macht eure arbeit fnr die ihr VON UNS geld bekommt! ich bin seit 4 jahren bei eve, und immer finden sich idioten die meinen ccp handelt branchennblich... nochmal : "in jeder anderen firem gibts ab dem 22. juni K_NIGUNGSSCHREIBEN!!!! Auch in Deutsch du Grammatik ist schrecklich. Und hast du nicht geh÷rt, dass alle Programmierer besser abschneiden, wShrend sie betrunken? ich mach mal einen auf "du" und kritisiere deine rechtschreibung.. argumente hast du bis jetzt keie gebracht... daraus ziehe ich den schlu¯ dass du eben einer dieser 9000 bist.

Fuha Psychotic Disorders Dangerous By Design	Posted - 2011.06.21 22:48:00 - [1311] Originally by: Rigamrts Originally by: Mr Pikey Originally by: Jolinarr Ekhbat'th Well...... 22H32. Patch downloaded....ok But TQ's still no accepting connection.... And Mac users are damned.... CCP what the hell what are you doing in your Iceland??? If they are in Iceland (the shop) they are most likely buying frozen Pizza and getting in the beers ready for a long night. The servers as far as I know are in the Docklands data centre in London, so they might have nipped round to Soho for a bit of light relief (so to speak). i know what happened the cricket match went into overtime while they where on break. nice one
Miss Dryfly	Posted - 2011.06.21 22:49:00 - [1312] Originally by: Kherho Sin Originally by: Derik Istvan Originally by: Kherho Sin so pass mal auf du kleiner "scheier". meine sprache ist deutsch, und in dieser red ich dich kleinen volldioten in grund und boden. ihr amis glaubt wohl ihr seit die spitze der evolution weil ihr eure sprache besser beherrscht als andere... ich programmiere seit jahren.. du kannst mir wahrscheinlich nicht mal das wasser reichen wenn ich besoffen in nem teich pulslos rumtreib. ich finde es immer extrem abartig wenn so spackos sich hier ccp freundliche statements abzugeben trauen, wenn hier GANZ offensichtlicher bl÷dsinn betrieben wird. macht eure arbeit fnr die ihr VON UNS geld bekommt! ich bin seit 4 jahren bei eve, und immer finden sich idioten die meinen ccp handelt branchennblich... nochmal : "in jeder anderen firem gibts ab dem 22. juni K_NIGUNGSSCHREIBEN!!!! Auch in Deutsch du Grammatik ist schrecklich. Und hast du nicht geh÷rt, dass alle Programmierer besser abschneiden, wShrend sie betrunken? ich mach mal einen auf "du" und kritisiere deine rechtschreibung.. argumente hast du bis jetzt keie gebracht... daraus ziehe ich den schlu¯ dass du eben einer dieser 9000 bist. und du einer der anderen deutschen spakkos die hier in eve niemand braucht?
Rigamrts	Posted - 2011.06.21 22:49:00 - [1313] Originally by: Scarengath Well this has been a long day for ccp and it's still going! Hope the update finally behaves itself so you can all get some well deserved rest. If not, smack it on the proverbial nose with the delete button... Anyhow...apart from the minor issue of not being able to admire my nightmare from the CQ, or see the pretty new laser effects, no complaints here. To all those whining about the time (of which I am SURE there are many) look out your nearest window. See that? Its called the "REAL WORLD" go explore it while you wait to return to your clone life within New Eden. i did look out the window seems Zeus got all ****y outside.
Random27	Posted - 2011.06.21 22:50:00 - [1314] Edited by: Random27 on 21/06/2011 22:53:39 Originally by: Kherho Sin so pass mal auf du kleiner "scheier". meine sprache ist deutsch, und in dieser red ich dich kleinen volldioten in grund und boden. ihr amis glaubt wohl ihr seit die spitze der evolution weil ihr eure sprache besser beherrscht als andere... ich programmiere seit jahren.. du kannst mir wahrscheinlich nicht mal das wasser reichen wenn ich besoffen in nem teich pulslos rumtreib. ich finde es immer extrem abartig wenn so spackos sich hier ccp freundliche statements abzugeben trauen, wenn hier GANZ offensichtlicher bl÷dsinn betrieben wird. macht eure arbeit fnr die ihr VON UNS geld bekommt! ich bin seit 4 jahren bei eve, und immer finden sich idioten die meinen ccp handelt branchennblich... nochmal : "in jeder anderen firem gibts ab dem 22. juni K_NIGUNGSSCHREIBEN!!!! When you claimed that the reason your previous posts made no sense was that your first language was not English, I generously imagined that your native tongue was perhaps something that is written in a different writing system, with vastly different rules of syntax, such as Japanese or Hindi. As it turns out, you speak German, a language with the same alphabet and almost identical rules of grammar and syntax as English, and that you suck at that too. If you've really been a programmer for years, I feel sorry for your employer, as I can only imagine you pay as much care and attention to the code you write as the drivel you spout on the interwebs.
Kherho Sin	Posted - 2011.06.21 22:51:00 - [1315] Originally by: Ranka Mei Originally by: Kherho Sin so pass mal auf du kleiner "scheier". meine sprache ist deutsch, und in dieser red ich dich kleinen volldioten in grund und boden. ihr amis glaubt wohl ihr seit die spitze der evolution weil ihr eure sprache besser beherrscht als andere... ich programmiere seit jahren.. du kannst mir wahrscheinlich nicht mal das wasser reichen wenn ich besoffen in nem teich pulslos rumtreib. ich finde es immer extrem abartig wenn so spackos sich hier ccp freundliche statements abzugeben trauen, wenn hier GANZ offensichtlicher bl÷dsinn betrieben wird. macht eure arbeit fnr die ihr VON UNS geld bekommt! ich bin seit 4 jahren bei eve, und immer finden sich idioten die meinen ccp handelt branchennblich... nochmal : "in jeder anderen firem gibts ab dem 22. juni K_NIGUNGSSCHREIBEN!!!! It's a bit of an irony, don't ya think, that German, your mother tongue, is actually known for capatalizing all nouns; and yet all you can do is use your caps for SCREAMING. School must not be any more what it used to be. :) omfg how should i comment your rassist ****?
Christelle CoraFlorenza	Posted - 2011.06.21 22:51:00 - [1316] Nice going so far: On NVidia 8800GT dualscreen login screen animation - constant 20 FPS, when ship starts shooting.. drop to about 18 FPS On laptop with crappy ATI - 30FPS .. down to 20 when shooting starts..
Derik Istvan	Posted - 2011.06.21 22:51:00 - [1317] Worst thing that could happen now: Lulzsec DDOSes the login server again just as TQ begins accepting connections.
FASTTRACKS0 Caldari Aeon Illuminati	Posted - 2011.06.21 22:51:00 - [1318] Originally by: Rigamrts Edited by: Rigamrts on 21/06/2011 22:30:02 Originally by: FASTTRACKS0 Originally by: Rigamrts Originally by: Justified Freedom ok i know nothing about graphics card, but it is an asus 9800 series??? what do i need to get, dont want to pay to much :s thanks guys anything with a nvidia in DO NOT BUY ATI YOU WILL REGRET IT What do you have against ATI? I love my AMD/ATI rig; She does just fine. i have an issue with a company that doen't support shadder 3 the last time i had an ATI in a machine i tried to install the sims 3 for my wife and it spit it tounge at me. Well that's true for any older card. You could have installed a 3dfx card and obtained the same result or even an older Nvidia card. Heck, my old ATI X1600 had shader 3.00 support. I guess you get what you pay for.
Blackthinker Amarr BlackPearl Nomads	Posted - 2011.06.21 22:52:00 - [1319] Originally by: Random27 Originally by: Kherho Sin so * not important *!!!! When you claimed that the reason your previous posts made no sense was that your first language was not English, I generously imagined that your native tongue was perhaps something that is written in a different writing system, with vastly different rules of syntax, such as Japanese or Hindi. As it turns out, you speak German, a language with the same alphabet and almost identical rules of grammar and syntax as English, and that you suck at that too. If you've really been a programmer for six years, I feel sorry for your employer, as I can only imagine you pay as much care and attention to the code you write as the drivel you spout on the interwebs. sign
Lee Anderson Eternal Profiteers	Posted - 2011.06.21 22:52:00 - [1320] Originally by: Miss Dryfly und du einer der anderen deutschen spakkos die hier in eve niemand braucht? Sprechen sie Englisch Deutsch n0obs .... there google ftw NOW TALK ENGLISH ------------------------------------------ My site http://www.mygamerbook.com

Ranka Mei Caldari	Posted - 2011.06.21 22:52:00 - [1321] Edited by: Ranka Mei on 21/06/2011 22:52:45 Originally by: Kherho Sinich mach mal einen auf "du" und kritisiere deine rechtschreibung.. argumente hast du bis jetzt keie gebracht... daraus ziehe ich den schlu¯ dass du eben einer dieser 9000 bist. Your horrible grammar, punctuation (or rather, lack thereof), and general baby-speak are their own 'arguments.' And guess what?! They're all pleading against you! Now, let's talk about EVE again. So, where is that extra client update that was to follow the patch? --
padraig animal Minmatar Devil Corp Bloodbound.	Posted - 2011.06.21 22:52:00 - [1322] Originally by: Derik Istvan Worst thing that could happen now: Lulzsec DDOSes the login server again just as TQ begins accepting connections. Lol * knocking on wood* lets hope not . Btw will they get it done before the time hits 00:00 and it's a new day called the 22 ... i doubt it
Miss Dryfly	Posted - 2011.06.21 22:54:00 - [1323] Originally by: Lee Anderson Originally by: Miss Dryfly und du einer der anderen deutschen spakkos die hier in eve niemand braucht? Sprechen sie Englisch Deutsch n0obs .... there google ftw NOW TALK ENGLISH dude, just was telling him to stop :)
Xyvok	Posted - 2011.06.21 22:54:00 - [1324] Well theres only 6 mins to the 22nd 8[
Heo Hyungie	Posted - 2011.06.21 22:55:00 - [1325] I'm scared
WCPistolPete Gallente MacroIntel	Posted - 2011.06.21 22:55:00 - [1326] Originally by: Ptraci Originally by: Jolinarr Ekhbat'th CCP what the hell what are you doing in your Iceland??? By the way: EVE is hosted in the UK, and has been for some time. That still doesn't answer the question of "CCP what the hell what are you doing in your Iceland???" I believe the Iceland team has kicked back and is laughing at all of the posts between beers. I have no clue about the London team. They've most likely decided to take a nap during the patch install or they've taken an extermely-extended krumpets-and-tea break... TQ will return once they wake up. Maybe if EVE was hosted in Iceland we'd see better performance from the database crew. {WC}PistolPete "...going to take a lot of fireworks to clean this place up..." Homer Simpson
Morgan Katarn	Posted - 2011.06.21 22:55:00 - [1327] well there is 22 players on tranq it was 14 for very long time maybe maybe they it up soon but then again its gonna be 4 hour ques
Lifekiller	Posted - 2011.06.21 22:56:00 - [1328] Edited by: Lifekiller on 21/06/2011 22:57:49 http://files.sharenator.com/where_the_****_am_i_Best_super_power_thread-s580x405-110623-535.png correct one: http://www.spacepot.eu/ebook/ULSRV3/1308697044_drunken-cat.jpg
Mannit	Posted - 2011.06.21 22:57:00 - [1329] Auch in Deutsch du Grammatik ist schrecklich. Und hast du nicht geh÷rt, dass alle Programmierer besser abschneiden, wShrend sie betrunken? I think google translate is down tonight mate, this is complete gibberish, funny that you give the guy grief for his grammar though
Mauvian	Posted - 2011.06.21 22:57:00 - [1330] Originally by: Xyvok Well theres only 6 mins to the 22nd 8[ Duncha mean an hour and 6 minutes?

Glyken Touchon Gallente Independent Alchemists	Posted - 2011.06.21 22:58:00 - [1331] Originally by: CCP Spitfire 21:55 UTC We have discovered an issue with the Mac client patch. If you are a Mac client user, we strongly advise that you do not patch your EVE Online client at this time. This issue is being fixed and we will update you as soon as the issue has been resolved. This is why I never install a patch before TQ goes live. PC user, but same principle applies. DL the patch, but wait for CCP's green light before install. ______ When the forums asked CCP for transparency, we didn't mean the HUD...
padraig animal Minmatar Devil Corp Bloodbound.	Posted - 2011.06.21 22:58:00 - [1332] Originally by: Xyvok Well theres only 6 mins to the 22nd 8[ http://www.worldtimeserver.com/current_time_in_UTC.aspx UTC ;) not GMT .
Xyvok	Posted - 2011.06.21 22:58:00 - [1333] Nope , not for us in the uk and maybe some in the eu
Miss Dryfly	Posted - 2011.06.21 22:58:00 - [1334] Originally by: Lifekiller Edited by: Lifekiller on 21/06/2011 22:57:49 http://files.sharenator.com/where_the_****_am_i_Best_super_power_thread-s580x405-110623-535.png correct one: http://www.spacepot.eu/ebook/ULSRV3/1308697044_drunken-cat.jpg lol
Mysterious Warrior	Posted - 2011.06.21 22:58:00 - [1335] I get it! This splash screen IS incarna! CCP have got rid of that troublesome beast of the actual game, here we have a nicely rendered ship that spins itself, no skill queue to worry about... Overall improvement! A++ would patch again.
Random27	Posted - 2011.06.21 22:59:00 - [1336] Originally by: Ranka Mei Edited by: Ranka Mei on 21/06/2011 22:52:45 Originally by: Kherho Sinich mach mal einen auf "du" und kritisiere deine rechtschreibung.. argumente hast du bis jetzt keie gebracht... daraus ziehe ich den schlu¯ dass du eben einer dieser 9000 bist. Your horrible grammar, punctuation (or rather, lack thereof), and general baby-speak are their own 'arguments.' And guess what?! They're all pleading against you! Now, let's talk about EVE again. So, where is that extra client update that was to follow the patch? I have a problem now: Do I sit here and tease the idiot who can't form a sentence, while I wait another hour or so for CCP to finally let us in, or do I go to bed and not feel like crap in the morning when I have real work to do?...
Rigamrts	Posted - 2011.06.21 22:59:00 - [1337] Edited by: Rigamrts on 21/06/2011 22:59:16 damn i think Zues and Thor both are having a royal rumble in my backyard
4N631	Posted - 2011.06.21 23:00:00 - [1338] Tuesday, June 21 RLY?
Kherho Sin	Posted - 2011.06.21 23:01:00 - [1339] yeah... thats what i was waiting for... all i sayed in my first post is ** couse : i dont spell right english... iam german (no i am austrian)... and becouse youre more than i. i heared NO ARGUMENT against my meaning. so i start to believe its useless. easy to say:" all this german say is ** couse his spelling..." its a fact (equal what you work)... IF YOU DONT FINISH YOUR WORK (not only this time!!) AS YOU PROMISED YOUR COSTUMERS, YOU GET NO FRIENDLINESS (... exept of ccp
Xyvok	Posted - 2011.06.21 23:01:00 - [1340] Just turned Wed 22 nd here

WCPistolPete Gallente MacroIntel	Posted - 2011.06.21 23:01:00 - [1341] Originally by: praying mantis01 Edited by: praying mantis01 on 21/06/2011 21:53:12 Will the captains quarters be wheel chair accessible as i am a wheel chair user and will feel discriminated and feel like a second class citizen if this is not the case. Yes. The stairs were designed so that your wheelchair has an equal chance of falling as a person with no wheelchair. {WC}PistolPete "...going to take a lot of fireworks to clean this place up..." Homer Simpson
ashton wiler	Posted - 2011.06.21 23:01:00 - [1342] Well they haven't changed the time they expect it to be back up so either there is only 30 min till it comes on or... They fell asleep waiting for it... Hopefully they are about done and can go home and take a break and we can continue on blowing stuff up and checking out all the new features unless that is you have an old graphics card or own a MAC .
Randal Eirikr	Posted - 2011.06.21 23:01:00 - [1343] Originally by: 4N631 Tuesday, June 21 RLY? CONSPIRACY THEORY, CONSPIRACY THEORY :tinfoil: Mouth-foam
Rogue Sheperd Gallente Stella Nova Inc. Elemental Tide	Posted - 2011.06.21 23:02:00 - [1344] And finally after god knows how long i can type in the forums after it forgets i actually have a character anyway love the retracting guns but ive waited all day for this to go live and now im looking forward to EVE before colleg in the morning. Ah well could be worse huh got some other stuff done anyway like actually do my FNV Explosives playthrough (No freezing yet hope it stays that way) Rangers lead the way! Stellar Nova Rangers (SNR)
Derik Istvan	Posted - 2011.06.21 23:02:00 - [1345] Originally by: Kherho Sin yeah... thats what i was waiting for... all i sayed in my first post is ** couse : i dont spell right english... iam german (no i am austrian)... and becouse youre more than i. i heared NO ARGUMENT against my meaning. so i start to believe its useless. easy to say:" all this german say is ** couse his spelling..." its a fact (equal what you work)... IF YOU DONT FINISH YOUR WORK (not only this time!!) AS YOU PROMISED YOUR COSTUMERS, YOU GET NO FRIENDLINESS (... exept of ccp yes but it is so much easier to troll you than it is to make a valid argument.
akitespero	Posted - 2011.06.21 23:03:00 - [1346] Originally by: Christelle CoraFlorenza Nice going so far: On NVidia 8800GT dualscreen login screen animation - constant 20 FPS, when ship starts shooting.. drop to about 18 FPS On ATI 5700 dual screen, i5, 8Gb RAM: 60 fps (max graphics except antialiasing and postprocessing which do not work on my card)
Tom Carbett	Posted - 2011.06.21 23:03:00 - [1347] This has resulted in an extended downtime. We expect to open Tranquility to the players at 03:30 UTC.
Ranka Mei Caldari	Posted - 2011.06.21 23:04:00 - [1348] Originally by: Glyken Touchon PC user, but same principle applies. DL the patch, but wait for CCP's green light before install. What's the difference? If something newer is up on TQ by the time they finally let us is, your client will simply prompt you to upgrade again. --
Xyvok	Posted - 2011.06.21 23:04:00 - [1349] Its up
Archibald Creed	Posted - 2011.06.21 23:04:00 - [1350] Originally by: Joy Mongaguarda Edited by: Joy Mongaguarda on 21/06/2011 16:33:40 Originally by: Palovana Here's why Aurum is fuctarded: 1. Cash in one PLEX (30 days worth of game-time) and you get 3500 AUR. 2. Have fun buying your outfits, whatever floats your boat, etc. 3. You now have one of every piece of [virtual clothing and other doodads] from the MT store. 4. You have roughly 3450 AUR left. Each ~120 AUR should be redeemable for one day of gametime, but it's not. 5. CCP has successfully gotten you to waste about 28 to 29 days of a 30-day PLEX, gametime for which they will NEVER credit you - you now have a huge stack of useless AUR. 6. ??? 7. CCP PROFIT, YOU LOSE. Don't fall into the Aurum trap. (Yes, I know you can buy MT stuff and sell it for ISK on the market, but you're now wasting your time that you would otherwise be using to earn ISK in more fun ways). Some people really dont get it ? Do they ? Vanity Itens are for people who doesnt mind paying sub for 6 or 12 months at once, and will spend it in Aur for tons of things, or tons of accounts. MT is indeed for people who doesnt mind about the 100 or so euros spent in what you say is useless, but they dont. Maybe it is time for some people learn once and for all, that not all players want the same things, and if CCP does what they do, they must have a pretty good number of survey answers to support that it is what many players want. This is what Aurum is ment for.... DUST 514 Video like it, hate it, fear it, spend all your ISK!!!! --------------------------------------------------

TiggerTime NED-Clan Goonswarm Federation	Posted - 2011.06.21 23:04:00 - [1351] Its alive!
padraig animal Minmatar Devil Corp Bloodbound.	Posted - 2011.06.21 23:04:00 - [1352] Originally by: Random27 Originally by: Ranka Mei Edited by: Ranka Mei on 21/06/2011 22:52:45 Originally by: Kherho Sinich mach mal einen auf "du" und kritisiere deine rechtschreibung.. argumente hast du bis jetzt keie gebracht... daraus ziehe ich den schlu¯ dass du eben einer dieser 9000 bist. Your horrible grammar, punctuation (or rather, lack thereof), and general baby-speak are their own 'arguments.' And guess what?! They're all pleading against you! Now, let's talk about EVE again. So, where is that extra client update that was to follow the patch? I have a problem now: Do I sit here and tease the idiot who can't form a sentence, while I wait another hour or so for CCP to finally let us in, or do I go to bed and not feel like crap in the morning when I have real work to do?... go to bed be cause CCP will probably delay the time again over the time date and it will be early morning on the 22 th ...or they suddenly open the server up and throttle it coz the whole other side of the world is waking up and want to logon ;)
Lifekiller	Posted - 2011.06.21 23:04:00 - [1353] Edited by: Lifekiller on 21/06/2011 23:04:56 http://www.walldesk.net/pdp/1024/07/06/Scary%20Movie%204/Scary-Movie-4-3.jpg now go sleep or chill or cleaning the CQ :)
Linolea Austrene	Posted - 2011.06.21 23:04:00 - [1354] Connected.
Capsuleer Newton	Posted - 2011.06.21 23:04:00 - [1355] Originally by: Xyvok Just turned Wed 22 nd here ok, your timezone is +1 UTC/GMT/Zulu, still 11 pm something with Eve, so still the 21st :))
akitespero	Posted - 2011.06.21 23:05:00 - [1356] Im in......
Arielle Silverwing	Posted - 2011.06.21 23:05:00 - [1357] All I know is when I walk in the station, I'm going to make this outfit look GOOD!!!!! and I just got the second update prompt... 25 players online A.S. o7
Derik Istvan	Posted - 2011.06.21 23:05:00 - [1358] ITS UP! YESYESYES
Blackthinker Amarr BlackPearl Nomads	Posted - 2011.06.21 23:07:00 - [1359] Originally by: Derik Istvan ITS UP! YESYESYES true
Ptraci	Posted - 2011.06.21 23:08:00 - [1360] Originally by: Derik Istvan ITS UP! YESYESYES Yep - buh bye Mac users...see you in space. Or not.

Kherho Sin	Posted - 2011.06.21 23:09:00 - [1361] Originally by: Derik Istvan Originally by: Kherho Sin yeah... thats what i was waiting for... all i sayed in my first post is ** couse : i dont spell right english... iam german (no i am austrian)... and becouse youre more than i. i heared NO ARGUMENT against my meaning. so i start to believe its useless. easy to say:" all this german say is ** couse his spelling..." its a fact (equal what you work)... IF YOU DONT FINISH YOUR WORK (not only this time!!) AS YOU PROMISED YOUR COSTUMERS, YOU GET NO FRIENDLINESS (... exept of ccp yes but it is so much easier to troll you than it is to make a valid argument. lol.. thats the point i stop react. read your comment once again. 0:1 to the right one ^^
padraig animal Minmatar Devil Corp Bloodbound.	Posted - 2011.06.21 23:09:00 - [1362] Originally by: akitespero Originally by: Christelle CoraFlorenza Nice going so far: On NVidia 8800GT dualscreen login screen animation - constant 20 FPS, when ship starts shooting.. drop to about 18 FPS On ATI 5700 dual screen, i5, 8Gb RAM: 60 fps (max graphics except antialiasing and postprocessing which do not work on my card) 8 ? has it use to use windows 7 whit more then 6 gb RAM ? i thought w7 64 never used more then 6 ...
Random27	Posted - 2011.06.21 23:10:00 - [1363] Originally by: Kherho Sin yeah... thats what i was waiting for... all i sayed in my first post is ** couse : i dont spell right english... iam german (no i am austrian)... and becouse youre more than i. i heared NO ARGUMENT against my meaning. so i start to believe its useless. easy to say:" all this german say is ** couse his spelling..." its a fact (equal what you work)... IF YOU DONT FINISH YOUR WORK (not only this time!!) AS YOU PROMISED YOUR COSTUMERS, YOU GET NO FRIENDLINESS (... exept of ccp Just. Stop. No, really, you're doing yourself no favours. Your original post made very little sense and what could be discrned from it was the same "CCP are rubbish because I can't play my game RIGHT NOW" rant as every other shouty little man here. I'm going to go and sleep now, because, unlike you, I actually do work as a software developer, and I know how difficult and awkward working with updates to large custom-built databases can be. Yes, it's annoying when things don't go according to plan, for both the supplier and customer, but oddly enough, most of the clients of the company I work for are quite understanding when the unexpected happens and we have to work with them to fix problems. This is because, in real life, businesses are run by sensible adults. I'm quite sure CCP aren't trying to scam us out of our hard-earned cash, and that the new shiny release will all be up and running when we want to play tomorrow. Then we can all get back to scamming noobs in Jita...
Glyken Touchon Gallente Independent Alchemists	Posted - 2011.06.21 23:12:00 - [1364] Originally by: Ranka Mei Originally by: Glyken Touchon PC user, but same principle applies. DL the patch, but wait for CCP's green light before install. What's the difference? If something newer is up on TQ by the time they finally let us is, your client will simply prompt you to upgrade again. On previous expansions, some people reported that the early patches corrupted the client and required full re-installs/major repairs. (bolded to avoid scaremongering) ______ When the forums asked CCP for transparency, we didn't mean the HUD...
Prince Spiderman	Posted - 2011.06.21 23:12:00 - [1365] ignored eveonline.com since 07:00 UTC +++ enjoyed a nice day +++ started EVE at 23:00 UTC +++ downloading +++ tired and waste of time reading the fail and whine thread +++ posting this message +++ going to sleep in a few +++ will wake up (feeling like one second later) +++ logging into EVE +++ checking CQ probably tomorrow +++ OUT


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