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Stegas Tyrano
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Posted - 2011.06.24 18:22:00 -
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This has to be the longest threadnaught in EVE-O forums history.
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Amar Azaph
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Posted - 2011.06.24 18:22:00 -
[5192]
Linkage
Seems the bad news on the changes has spread! Sent from a campfire using smoke signals. |
Ric Darn
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Posted - 2011.06.24 18:22:00 -
[5193]
Jita's Memorial is burning. Maybe EVE will do, too. Maybe soon.
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Constantinus Maximus
Paxian Expeditionary Force
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Posted - 2011.06.24 18:22:00 -
[5194]
Edited by: Constantinus Maximus on 24/06/2011 18:22:25
Originally by: Eladaris
Sadly... even if every single person posting in this thread was to immediately rage quit on every account and never return it probably wouldn't impact the overall sub numbers too harshly, long term.
CCP would just roll out more/stronger MT 'perks' to the remaining customer-base to fill the whole from those who departed in the mass exodus, and they'd pat themselves on the back for ignoring another tempest teapot forumwarrior thread.
This is what they hoped pre-deployment.
Now they findout ripping off a subscribion base kills companies (duh).
His name was John Turbefield! Truth. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F4YHvtEJgBc Best brief on the details. FREE HELICITY |
Trasience
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Posted - 2011.06.24 18:22:00 -
[5195]
Just to add my voice to a sizeable community - account cancelled. Incarna = terrible.
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Pat Morrison
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Posted - 2011.06.24 18:22:00 -
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Originally by: Gogela
Originally by: ALLYOURMONEY BELONGTOUS Where is PANN??? Has anyone see PANN?? This tall..red hair...anyone??
I wonder if Pann is an alt.
First day at CCPUnknown Title/DepartmentNo Title/Department Found MottoNo Motto Found BioNo Bio Found
Nada. Her profile linked here.
I also enjoy scamming with alts.
I'm not quitting EvE yet. So there.
His name was John Turbefield!
No, Pann's real, and the real person behind the account does hold that position. She's not the one that should be answering, though. I want to hear from Joseph Gallo.
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Amy Lauree
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Posted - 2011.06.24 18:23:00 -
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I think this is my first post on these forums... however I feel I must echo the sentiments of the community. CCP are way off the mark here.
We aren't players anymore, we are just customers.
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Yinis Mor
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Posted - 2011.06.24 18:23:00 -
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Originally by: Deamos Bump for the link to the Protest Live Stream Jita Protest - Live!
super awesome sauce!
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Aina O'Sinnor
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Posted - 2011.06.24 18:23:00 -
[5199]
What was the largest threadnought in Eve ever?
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Lacen Wolk
Deadly Influence
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Posted - 2011.06.24 18:23:00 -
[5200]
Originally by: evenews24 Want to create the ISK sinks? Give us the promised T3 battleships, frigates, combat, rebalance production, and stop the rampant botting thatÆs plaguing both highsec and nullsec.
Originally by: http://eve.beyondreality.se/NeXCQResponse.html Perhaps the most scary part about the document isn't the lie ù we have felt lied to before by CCP to various degrees (cf. the optional Incarna above). No, the worst part is that you know that it isn't wanted. Your flag bearer for the issue says it outright: it will be an uphill struggle. You knew this current storm was coming, and now you are acting all ôaw, chucks, sorry guysàö about it. You knew it was coming ù perhaps not now, but at some point ù because you knew you would have to go back on that promise and convince us to accept the ideas you had for non-vanity MT. Please, drop the charade.
This! Hope ccp reads it.
source: (http://eve.beyondreality.se/NeXCQResponse.html) (http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1534552)
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Hunter Verdeen
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Posted - 2011.06.24 18:23:00 -
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Okay what has people up in arms the most is an internal memo from a brainstorming session full of ideas to make CCP money through selling in game advantages for real $. Be that a plex to arum conversion or outright sales. What everyone forgets is this was an internal brainstorming session and not set company policy. Like many brainstorming sessions the suggestions in this memo could be simply tossed out like garbage. Keeping in mind Dust was also mentioned in this it could perhaps mean these things might be implemented for Dust and not EVE or they could be for both. Whether they were or not this was simply suggestions that get implemented or not remains to be seen. I suggest everyone step back and simply play the game until such time as we find out what the future holds in this regard.
Now as far as the Incarna "Sims in Space" aspect with what people term ridiculous pricing for vanity items (no affect on game play so what is the issue) if you do not want to play don't. For now CQ can be turned off and even if you do not there is no need to get up and walk around to play I have been doing nothing more (except for an initial spin around the quarters) than docking doing my stuff and undocking now since Incarna came out. I am sure when more content is added you can still do this. So what is the issue here the game is changing and adding stuff some players want while keeping what others want?
Sadly with all of this some players are finding out that what has been announced for months has come true you cannot play without an upgraded graphics card. I am sorry for your loss but such is the way of progress and all games that keep things current eventually have this issue.
Finally we get to the folks who can no longer use 2 accounts at the same time for example mining with a hulk and orca. I say this is a good thing it makes it more even for those who choose to have 1 character to play the game you will just have to cooperate with others more now.
Keep in mind EVE is a sandbox and is what you make of it. No one forces you to do anything in EVE aside from pay your subscription (be it cash or plex) and you can do what you want. If things have gotten to where you no longer enjoy the game may I suggest canceling your subscription for a few weeks, months, or even years and take a break. Perhaps you will just move on or perhaps you will realize how much you enjoy this game and come back. After all the choice is up to you just like anything else in this game unlike many others.
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Shintai
Gallente Arx Io Orbital Factories Arx Io
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Posted - 2011.06.24 18:23:00 -
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Abstraction and Transcendence: Nature, Shintai, and Geometry |
Carmine Lady
Amarr Viziam
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Posted - 2011.06.24 18:23:00 -
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Originally by: Mehrdad Kor-Azor Well, the Jita event just got epic... loads of people shooting crap, just saw a smartbomber do his thing... At 1.8K right now. Join the revolution!
I would but i have nothing to join in with ..no isk etc...I thought id be clever while drunk and hand out my isk. FREE HELICITY |
Reptail
Caldari SPACE LIGHT EMPIRE
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Posted - 2011.06.24 18:23:00 -
[5204]
TURTLES o8h ertg dgd gdghrdfs |
Jaroslav Unwanted
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Posted - 2011.06.24 18:23:00 -
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Originally by: Urah Dedman OMFG JITA! This is an iconic day that will live in the Gaming history books forever!
Viva la Revolucion!
Go get 'em people!!!
Quoting for Epicness , Get there kill that monument while you are at it reinforce the sovereignty of Jita.. and destroy 4-4
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RensPriceChecker2
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Posted - 2011.06.24 18:23:00 -
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Originally by: Miilla
The reason the dev blog statement is taking so long is they are all sitting flicking through the THESARUS looking for alternatives for the term "Vanity".
this. |
Thevani Khashour
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Posted - 2011.06.24 18:23:00 -
[5207]
Originally by: Deamos Live Stream of the Jita Protest Justin.tv Live Stream
Quoting so everyone can see it.
Jita protest!
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Marcus Vorenius
Task Force 42
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Posted - 2011.06.24 18:24:00 -
[5208]
Mass protest in JITA http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1536803
Channel: mass-protest
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DaRuLe
Caldari
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Posted - 2011.06.24 18:24:00 -
[5209]
Originally by: Deamos Bump for the link to the Protest Live Stream Jita Protest - Live!
This live stream shows (to me) exactly what Eve is all about. It is almost as if this is actually happening IRL and Deamos is the embedded journalist. __________________________________________________________________________
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Tod Connors---ray Solette
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Posted - 2011.06.24 18:24:00 -
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please give me lots of cheap custom paintjobs. I want my ship to feel like it's mine and unique. But i want to earn my Mods the old fashion way and the same for my enemies. I think the players should be the ones "virtually" profitting from selling mods. And when the developer tries to sell ingame mods they are STEALING FROM PLAYERS
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dunnhill
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Posted - 2011.06.24 18:24:00 -
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whats happening in jita?
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BeanBagKing
Terra Incognita Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2011.06.24 18:24:00 -
[5212]
Originally by: Amarrket Man @CCP
This thread is titled "An overdue Apology and Request for Parley" So far I have seen you apologize numerous times. This thread is 160+ pages long by now and there has been only 15 blue posts responding to your community. That is less than one small post for every 10 pages we post. Granted there are alot of us and so few of you. I guess I should remind you that it was you who came to us wanting parley. Our problems with you are on the table, everyone knows what they are, especially you. Why then havent you responded to our concerns in any other way than "oh we are sorry, the game will be the same. plz dont unsubscribe." It seems you are too busy repremanding the forum rage than to make good on your request for parley.
Remember: a discussion requires two parties actively engaged in communication. So far you have sat back and let the rage continue without posting anything with substance.
This, I know there's probably a lot of meetings and discussion going on right now at CCP, but you've had several days to respond to this. I though this post was the beginning of that, you asked that we put down our pitchforks for you and many of us did. Then you up and disappeared again. I realize that getting Helmar on the line this minute won't happen, but CCP Pann, you at least should have stuck around and TRIED to engage us in discussion, answer questions, and generally try to calm the rage. When we hear "Parley!", a few posts, and then about 150 pages of silence... I hope you see why people are picking up the pitchforks again.
Yes there will probably be people who yell and scream at you if you do post, especially if you post something they don't like, but do you really think silence is the best answer right now?
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SandKid
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Posted - 2011.06.24 18:25:00 -
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Edited by: SandKid on 24/06/2011 18:26:59 This is rather sad to behold - particularly the H-itler video on youtube. I've seen a lot of those, if not all of them, and none have ever been really serious. Until now anyways.
I wonder though if the Russians, French, or other languages have expressed the outrage we have. CCP won't care if all of the US were to quit so long as something remains. Even with only a fifth of their player-base remaining, a little tweaking of the NEX and EVE Online will be just fine...but no longer the game it once was.
Sci-Fi Masterpiece indeed...I guess EVE was destined to have all things sci-fi, which means it had to happen that one day the spaceships would be 'just another feature'.
Over the last couple of months I've dropped from 6 accounts to 2. I'm seriously considering canceling 1 of them since I don't play EVE as much anymore. I may just drop both, never have I been so disappointed at an expansion release - Incarna has great promise but this 'release in parts' business really shot them in the foot. Players wanted Incarna, yes, but they wanted all of it. Patches are for fixing...not releasing.
EDIT: H*itler is apparently a banned word?
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Malak Artoo
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Posted - 2011.06.24 18:25:00 -
[5214]
Originally by: Ranka Mei
Btw, CCP, Pann's post, 'apologizing' for ignoring the issue... while ignoring the issue, Strike 1. Recent silencing attemps, Strike 2.
This.
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Kewso
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Posted - 2011.06.24 18:25:00 -
[5215]
Can we please move beyond Vanity items for AUR?!?
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A Dysfunctional Playground |
5n00pie
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Posted - 2011.06.24 18:25:00 -
[5216]
Prediction: Within two years Jovians will be an MT unlockable race released as the main feature of a future expansion.
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Ronin Silfar
Gallente
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Posted - 2011.06.24 18:25:00 -
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Up to 1820 in Jita protest and climbing. Free Helicity Free Liang Nuren |
Hiram Alexander
Caldari The Night Crew
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Posted - 2011.06.24 18:25:00 -
[5218]
Originally by: Tippia
Originally by: Evalon Fury CCp promised a response today... Why would anyone quit before they confirm our fears.... As soon as MT become useful for more than Vanity items.. alot of people are walking... edit to fix spelling.
I suppose that depends on how their metrics work (and whether or not they're looking at them).
If they keep track of "Current renewing subscriptions", where a cancelled sub immediately translates into -1, then quitting would have a purpose, and it would be easy to un-quit if it had the wanted effect.
If they simply keep track of "Current accounts able to play", where a cancelled sub doesn't show up until after all the remaining time has actually run outà then the effect is perhaps not as immediate. But they'd still get the "I quit!!1" reason feedback form mail, so they'll have some indication of the flow of things regardless.
And for Paypal paid accounts you can't actually "quit" in the strict sense - you can only stop paying...
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Constantinus Maximus
Paxian Expeditionary Force
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Posted - 2011.06.24 18:26:00 -
[5219]
Originally by: BeanBagKing
Originally by: Amarrket Man @CCP
This thread is titled "An overdue Apology and Request for Parley" So far I have seen you apologize numerous times. This thread is 160+ pages long by now and there has been only 15 blue posts responding to your community. That is less than one small post for every 10 pages we post. Granted there are alot of us and so few of you. I guess I should remind you that it was you who came to us wanting parley. Our problems with you are on the table, everyone knows what they are, especially you. Why then havent you responded to our concerns in any other way than "oh we are sorry, the game will be the same. plz dont unsubscribe." It seems you are too busy repremanding the forum rage than to make good on your request for parley.
Remember: a discussion requires two parties actively engaged in communication. So far you have sat back and let the rage continue without posting anything with substance.
This, I know there's probably a lot of meetings and discussion going on right now at CCP, but you've had several days to respond to this. I though this post was the beginning of that, you asked that we put down our pitchforks for you and many of us did. Then you up and disappeared again. I realize that getting Helmar on the line this minute won't happen, but CCP Pann, you at least should have stuck around and TRIED to engage us in discussion, answer questions, and generally try to calm the rage. When we hear "Parley!", a few posts, and then about 150 pages of silence... I hope you see why people are picking up the pitchforks again.
Yes there will probably be people who yell and scream at you if you do post, especially if you post something they don't like, but do you really think silence is the best answer right now?
But there is drinking to be done?
Why stay late at work to save a company you know has gone to ****.
His name was John Turbefield! Truth. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F4YHvtEJgBc Best brief on the details. FREE HELICITY |
ACY GTMI
Veerhouven Group The Veerhouven Group
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Posted - 2011.06.24 18:26:00 -
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One thing that I would like to point out. CCP knows the stats on actual subscription cancellations. We lose OUR credibility if a thousand people say they canceled and CCP notices that only 1 person actually did it.
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