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Gracron
Caldari
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Posted - 2011.06.24 20:48:00 -
[5791]
awaiting response from CCP
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Lofe sXe
Caldari North Eastern Swat Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2011.06.24 20:48:00 -
[5792]
FREE MINTCHIP NOW !! !! |
Android Mindslave
Gallente Mindworks
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Posted - 2011.06.24 20:49:00 -
[5793]
Originally by: Tea Ester Elliot Wow, the white-knights are still here talking about maturity. /o\
Forgive us that we actually have a vocal opinion about the direction of the game we've played for eight years. I know you knights might be stoic enough to simply bend over and allow services to be applied, but most of us would rather keep the game we enjoy rather than see it go without a fight.
Yea, the white-knights are also ignoring that the key points of contention have been laid out already, and that people are simply putting a MASSIVE exclamation point behind it. |
Sinker1345
ANZAC ALLIANCE RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2011.06.24 20:49:00 -
[5794]
Edited by: Sinker1345 on 24/06/2011 20:50:11
Originally by: Stormchyld
Originally by: Leon Razor
Originally by: Aineko Macx More fuel to the fire: http://www.glassdoor.com/Reviews/CCP-Games-Reviews-E159347.htm
This was most troubling to read. I want to believe in the awesome that CCP advertises, but this makes me worry about how much of it is just a facade. You got me really excited about DUST at E3, and I even bought a PS3. I want it to succeed, since maybe then EVE won't bare the financial weight of supporting 2 unreleased projects. Carbon is another thing that sounds awesome, but now I'm worried it's just an excuse to develop for 3 games all at once which ends up diluting EVE. From that link, it sounds like you need to deal with internal management and communication. EVE is a great game that I want to be "forever", but if you make poor choices and the passionate players that make the game amazing leave, expect a rapid fail cascade until there isn't an EVE anymore. I don't want to see this happen. Remember, your a game company, but right now your only "real" product is EVE. Without EVE, there is no CCP.
...+1 ... that has me very concerned as well. maybe they should shelve WoD for now, if eve can't support all 3. their corporate culture is something they will have to want to change ofc.... hopefully today will show them they need to. if Eve had a cash flow problem before.... how much worse will it be now with so many people unsubbing? but yes, I agree 100% .. that link to eve employees rating their own company is rather poignant
+1 I agree this also sounds like they upper management is starting to treat us that way as well, and I for one wont pay to get treated like crap!
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Carmine Lady
Amarr Viziam
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Posted - 2011.06.24 20:49:00 -
[5795]
Originally by: Shintai Still no info....nice Pann! More lies.
CCP is a never ending lie, these days. FREE HELICITY FREE LIANG REVOLT AGAINST THE OPPRESSIVE TYRANT CCP |
Qwyp
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Posted - 2011.06.24 20:50:00 -
[5796]
Originally by: Lithia Tsanov Wow... Just wow.
I'm gone "the second" people can pay cash for IG items.
Are you a tard?
you can buy anything in Eve for cash, always have... buy plex for cash sell for isk and buy whatever you want.
i've been buying ships, modules, officer lewtz for cash for many years
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Worzel Bummage
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Posted - 2011.06.24 20:50:00 -
[5797]
Originally by: Miilla What are we complaining about again?
1. CQ Performance 2. The Door
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Nemo deBlanc
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Posted - 2011.06.24 20:50:00 -
[5798]
This dev blog better say some damn nice things. Because if it doesn't? CCP just ****ed away mountains of loyal players, myself included.
In other news... 200 pages before this dev blog. Over half a million views on this thread, for a game with a bit over 300k active accounts.
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Jarra
Gallente Twizted Illusion
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Posted - 2011.06.24 20:51:00 -
[5799]
Originally by: Jin Letes Where's Oprah when you need her? Someone send her a 21-day buddy trial.
YOU get a titan. YOU get a titan. YOU get a titan. EVERYONE GETS A TITAN.
Brilliant hehe, But with so many others that have spoken before me, CCP needs to answer for alot of things and do so clearly.
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Miilla
Minmatar Hulkageddon Orphanage
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Posted - 2011.06.24 20:51:00 -
[5800]
Originally by: Worzel Bummage
Originally by: Miilla What are we complaining about again?
1. CQ Performance 2. The Door
Arn't you forgetting something?
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Sevy Shasha
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Posted - 2011.06.24 20:51:00 -
[5801]
Hi I'm sevy and I'd like to hear from CCP.
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Captain Dylan Hunt
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Posted - 2011.06.24 20:52:00 -
[5802]
Originally by: Lofe sXe FREE MINTCHIP NOW !! !!
Wait! What?!
Mintchip is banned?
TO THE NOVA BOMBS!
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Marius Rousseau
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Posted - 2011.06.24 20:52:00 -
[5803]
http://www.eveonline.com/devblog.asp?a=blog&bid=901
that's the dev blog apparently
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Care Bear King
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Posted - 2011.06.24 20:52:00 -
[5804]
Originally by: Miilla
Originally by: Sandar Orontur Actually, the SM3.0 change wasn't silent.
The Mac-specific issue with SM3 was that several cards which hardware-wise *do* carry support for SM3, don't have SM3 capable drivers in OSX. You can Bootcamp on the same hardware and run EvE just fine (by post-Incarna standards) in XP. It's hardly CCP's fault that the OSX driver doesn't support SM3, but messaging was at best poor on the matter. It would not have been difficult to have a test call to something requiring SM3 weeks prior to the expansion to alert people that the system they were playing on would no longer function post-Incarna.
I got burnt by the issue, and I specifically checked the my video card for SM3 compliance when it was announced ages ago. I was unaware of the driver issue until Incarna, however. I had taken the ability to create an avatar on my laptop as evidence that my ****ty old GPU was minimally sufficient.
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Scum Bum
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Posted - 2011.06.24 20:52:00 -
[5805]
Free Helicity not ugly blog chick. Bowl haircut skank.
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Cap Tyrian
Guiding Hand Social Club Dystopia Alliance
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Posted - 2011.06.24 20:52:00 -
[5806]
This sums it up. I feel CCP has already stolen my Subscription fees for something that can not be described as Content in any way.
Originally by: Jade Constantine Sure when you have been playing Eve as long as we have you learn to take the rough with the smooth but you do so with the general feeling that CCP developers understand and ôgetö what makes Eve great û and thatÆs the problem now. This internal newsletter (if real) shows that one of the leading developers does not ôget eveö does not care about eve, and simply sees eve as a cash cow to be milked ferociously to fund other projects. This is about keeping the golden goose of eve subscriptions (on a drip feed if necessary) while chasing and grubbing every little loose cent he can from the player base.
Let me give you a couple of examples of how this can and does (and has already) impacted our enjoyment of this game:
1. The Captains Quarters û itÆs not gameplay its a display cabinet for vanity items. And the price of this display cabinet for you and I is that multi-client performance in stations is now terrible û if you have a bad graphic card itÆs a jerk fest û if you have a decent graphics card itÆs heat-fest. I can run 3-4 clients with CQÆs turned on û I can run it smoothly û but do I want to? Hell no because my Gtx 580 sounds like its melting my motherboard now! So I need to turn off the CQÆs on multiple accounts and as a result have more limited functionality on those accounts and an ugly wallpaper. No more station environment, no more clicking on my ship to open cargo hold, no more dragging ship to the hanger to board it. The delivery of the CQ vanity item display case has impacted my gameplay.
CCP could have made it optional and given us the option of keeping the old hanger view and added a ôdisembark shipö option to the UI but ôoh noö to do that would have meant we werenÆt being forced to look the vanity display case that marketing insisted must be front and centre if weÆre to even think about buying these ridiculously overpriced items from the Noble store.
2. If you read the newsletter youÆll see reference to saved fitting slots û and I donÆt know about you Verone but in JF weÆve run out of saved corp ship fittings. We want CCP to up the limit but is that really going to happen while the ôbiz-devsö talk honeyed words about how to squeeze extra income from players for such ôminor upgrades.ö? How long till we pay aurum for extra corp standing slots? For wardec options? For a usable corp management screen?
3. And who develops these vanity items? Yes thats right its Eve artists and developers whose salary we pay with our subscriptions. Given the choice wouldnÆt you rather have engine trails and flashy cyno effect for all players rather than a bunch of overpriced tat in the Aur store for a fleeced few?
Because that is precisely the compromise being made here -> CCP using our subs money to pay for vanity item production they want to sell back to us for greedy prices and it is something you SHOULD get mad about.
So hereÆs the thing.
The time to fight for the game we love is not in six months time when these concepts have bedded down and CCP is feeling bold enough to start selling Noble Faction ammo and +9 implants. The time to fight is now. Because this newsletter embodies everything that many of us feared but didnÆt want to believe CCP were becoming capable of. It is a massive betrayal of the compact we shared as players and developers of this game and indicates that CCP is preparing to leap down a very dark and deep path of self-immolation in the months to come.
I donÆt want to see Eve Online die Verone. That sounds dramatic I know, but gameworlds die when the dreams and visions are extinguished and that can happen through a succession of bad ideas foisted on a community by people who really donÆt have much of a clue in business.
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LordElfa
Gallente Golden Lyon Warriors
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Posted - 2011.06.24 20:52:00 -
[5807]
Guys, I'm with you all but please stop posting that turd coming out of the butt gif, it's just gross.
òòòòòòò CSM6-Hated by fools for who they are; Loved by the knowledgeable for what they will do. |
Riicca
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Posted - 2011.06.24 20:52:00 -
[5808]
Originally by: Qwyp
Originally by: Lithia Tsanov Wow... Just wow.
I'm gone "the second" people can pay cash for IG items.
Are you a tard?
you can buy anything in Eve for cash, always have... buy plex for cash sell for isk and buy whatever you want.
i've been buying ships, modules, officer lewtz for cash for many years
There is a cap and ISK price fluctuation on PLEX. All those items were built in game by players. All those items needed to be hauled or otherwise transported to where they would be used thus supporting the environment. Spot the difference? About being tard - think harder.
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Balardo
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Posted - 2011.06.24 20:52:00 -
[5809]
Please don't let history repeat itself for the only game i like.
Quote: We've learned a thing or two with our experiences with the NGE and don't plan on repeating mistakes from the past and not listening to the players.
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Poppin' Tittays
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Posted - 2011.06.24 20:52:00 -
[5810]
I look forward to the buyout ccp will be forced into because of this and the failure of Dust 514.
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Isis Soryu
Caldari Universitas Interimo Research
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Posted - 2011.06.24 20:52:00 -
[5811]
Originally by: Qwyp
Originally by: Lithia Tsanov Wow... Just wow.
I'm gone "the second" people can pay cash for IG items.
Are you a tard?
you can buy anything in Eve for cash, always have... buy plex for cash sell for isk and buy whatever you want.
i've been buying ships, modules, officer lewtz for cash for many years
Apparently you're the tard.
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Lavender Chic
Monolith Research
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Posted - 2011.06.24 20:52:00 -
[5812]
Originally by: Mike deVoid Edited by: Mike deVoid on 24/06/2011 20:49:24 I know it's harsh, but I figured out a Princess Diana analogy in regards to CCP. She also liked walking through minefields and donating to charity, before getting involved with someone she shouldn't have. She died, precedent set.
- Sofia Roseburn
saving it from overmoderation :p
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Constantinus Maximus
Paxian Expeditionary Force
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Posted - 2011.06.24 20:53:00 -
[5813]
Edited by: Constantinus Maximus on 24/06/2011 20:54:24
Originally by: Qwyp
Originally by: Lithia Tsanov Wow... Just wow.
I'm gone "the second" people can pay cash for IG items.
Are you a tard?
you can buy anything in Eve for cash, always have... buy plex for cash sell for isk and buy whatever you want.
i've been buying ships, modules, officer lewtz for cash for many years
Hey there again CCP. Your last post you forgot to change "We" to "They".
His name was John Turbefield! Truth. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F4YHvtEJgBc Best brief on the details. FREE HELICITY |
SexxxSlave
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Posted - 2011.06.24 20:53:00 -
[5814]
Originally by: Lofe sXe FREE MINTCHIP NOW !! !!
wait...what? lol |
GARRAK
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Posted - 2011.06.24 20:53:00 -
[5815]
Have to agree with this myself
Originally by: Cap Tyrian This sums it up. I feel CCP has already stolen my Subscription fees for something that can not be described as Content in any way.
Originally by: Jade Constantine Sure when you have been playing Eve as long as we have you learn to take the rough with the smooth but you do so with the general feeling that CCP developers understand and ôgetö what makes Eve great û and thatÆs the problem now. This internal newsletter (if real) shows that one of the leading developers does not ôget eveö does not care about eve, and simply sees eve as a cash cow to be milked ferociously to fund other projects. This is about keeping the golden goose of eve subscriptions (on a drip feed if necessary) while chasing and grubbing every little loose cent he can from the player base.
Let me give you a couple of examples of how this can and does (and has already) impacted our enjoyment of this game:
1. The Captains Quarters û itÆs not gameplay its a display cabinet for vanity items. And the price of this display cabinet for you and I is that multi-client performance in stations is now terrible û if you have a bad graphic card itÆs a jerk fest û if you have a decent graphics card itÆs heat-fest. I can run 3-4 clients with CQÆs turned on û I can run it smoothly û but do I want to? Hell no because my Gtx 580 sounds like its melting my motherboard now! So I need to turn off the CQÆs on multiple accounts and as a result have more limited functionality on those accounts and an ugly wallpaper. No more station environment, no more clicking on my ship to open cargo hold, no more dragging ship to the hanger to board it. The delivery of the CQ vanity item display case has impacted my gameplay.
CCP could have made it optional and given us the option of keeping the old hanger view and added a ôdisembark shipö option to the UI but ôoh noö to do that would have meant we werenÆt being forced to look the vanity display case that marketing insisted must be front and centre if weÆre to even think about buying these ridiculously overpriced items from the Noble store.
2. If you read the newsletter youÆll see reference to saved fitting slots û and I donÆt know about you Verone but in JF weÆve run out of saved corp ship fittings. We want CCP to up the limit but is that really going to happen while the ôbiz-devsö talk honeyed words about how to squeeze extra income from players for such ôminor upgrades.ö? How long till we pay aurum for extra corp standing slots? For wardec options? For a usable corp management screen?
3. And who develops these vanity items? Yes thats right its Eve artists and developers whose salary we pay with our subscriptions. Given the choice wouldnÆt you rather have engine trails and flashy cyno effect for all players rather than a bunch of overpriced tat in the Aur store for a fleeced few?
Because that is precisely the compromise being made here -> CCP using our subs money to pay for vanity item production they want to sell back to us for greedy prices and it is something you SHOULD get mad about.
So hereÆs the thing.
The time to fight for the game we love is not in six months time when these concepts have bedded down and CCP is feeling bold enough to start selling Noble Faction ammo and +9 implants. The time to fight is now. Because this newsletter embodies everything that many of us feared but didnÆt want to believe CCP were becoming capable of. It is a massive betrayal of the compact we shared as players and developers of this game and indicates that CCP is preparing to leap down a very dark and deep path of self-immolation in the months to come.
I donÆt want to see Eve Online die Verone. That sounds dramatic I know, but gameworlds die when the dreams and visions are extinguished and that can happen through a succession of bad ideas foisted on a community by people who really donÆt have much of a clue in business.
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Jake McKay
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Posted - 2011.06.24 20:54:00 -
[5816]
Originally by: Worzel Bummage
Originally by: Miilla What are we complaining about again?
1. CQ Performance 2. The Door
3: Day 1 noobs will be able to buy a premium ship and the lvl V skills to go with it
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Gothikia
Regeneration
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Posted - 2011.06.24 20:54:00 -
[5817]
Originally by: Mike deVoid Edited by: Mike deVoid on 24/06/2011 20:49:24 I know it's harsh, but I figured out a Princess Diana analogy in regards to CCP. She also liked walking through minefields and donating to charity, before getting involved with someone she shouldn't have. She died, precedent set.
- Sofia Roseburn
Sofia, wow.
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Miilla
Minmatar Hulkageddon Orphanage
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Posted - 2011.06.24 20:54:00 -
[5818]
Originally by: Nemo deBlanc This dev blog better say some damn nice things. Because if it doesn't? CCP just ****ed away mountains of loyal players, myself included.
In other news... 200 pages before this dev blog. Over half a million views on this thread, for a game with a bit over 300k active accounts.
The "RELOAD EVERY" firefox addon probably accounts for 30% of those views :)
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Carmine Lady
Amarr Viziam
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Posted - 2011.06.24 20:54:00 -
[5819]
Originally by: Lofe sXe FREE MINTCHIP NOW !! !!
this cannot be true OMFG
:(
;_; FREE HELICITY FREE LIANG REVOLT AGAINST THE OPPRESSIVE TYRANT CCP |
Worzel Bummage
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Posted - 2011.06.24 20:54:00 -
[5820]
Originally by: Miilla
Originally by: Worzel Bummage
Originally by: Miilla What are we complaining about again?
1. CQ Performance 2. The Door
Arn't you forgetting something?
Nah I don't care about [that other thing]
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