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Abelard Nightbringer
New Foundation
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Posted - 2011.06.24 01:49:00 -
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Edited by: Abelard Nightbringer on 24/06/2011 01:49:46 Everything CCP did so far with this patch in no way hurt this game at all. everyone has the choice to implement it or not. All the stupid *****ing is just people complaining about things speculated to come. Its like someone committing suicide because they just got told they have May have a 10% chance of having 12 months to live. Very worthwhile.
These forums are full of stupidity. If all you guys ended up unsubbing and just left, you wouldnt be causing and feeding your own problems.
Shut the Hell Up
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Rei Nakasone
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Posted - 2011.06.24 01:49:00 -
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I think people need to slow down, seriously how do you expect to get any answers if they have to read through pages and pages or rage/troll posts, we need real questions if we want real answers.
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Dian'h Might
Minmatar Cash and Cargo Liberators Incorporated
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Posted - 2011.06.24 01:49:00 -
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Originally by: Black Dranzer
Originally by: CCP Manifest The designs we will implement in game will not **** over the sandbox.
I want to believe that, Manifest.
I really, really do.
Me to, but I don't. Not for a second. Especially not after this abomination of a patch and the blatant ignoring of how to make it not suck. - - - Dian'h Might - C&Ps resident "internet kleptomaniac" |

Grey Stormshadow
Starwreck Industries
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Posted - 2011.06.24 01:49:00 -
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Originally by: Reed Tiburon
Originally by: Boardwalker
 CCP Soundwave, Kristoffer Touborg. This is your defining moment.  
Please step forward and face the community that you have splintered.
By the way... It's going to be awesome.
------------------------------------------------- Play with the best - die like the rest starwreck.com - support the cause :) |

HoboWithAShip
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Posted - 2011.06.24 01:49:00 -
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Edited by: HoboWithAShip on 24/06/2011 01:50:18
Originally by: Miilla Edited by: Miilla on 24/06/2011 01:47:27
Are you moving beyond VANITY AUR items?
This. This needs an answer NOW.
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Telvani
Crouching Woman Hidden Cucumber
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Posted - 2011.06.24 01:50:00 -
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Originally by: Le Skunk Classic opportunity missed by CCP Pann NOT wearing a monocle in his/her OP. It would have won thread of the decade if he/she did.
SKUNK
This would have been almost as good as the door thread (which needs unlocking btw)
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Manos Heimenbarger
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Posted - 2011.06.24 01:50:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Manifest
Originally by: Evelgrivion Edited by: Evelgrivion on 24/06/2011 00:36:49 Here's my big question that I demand an answer to.
Are you going to **** the EVE Online sandbox over for Monetary Transactions or not? If not, all is forgiven. If MTs are going to impact the sandbox, start printing your resumes and god help you all.
The designs we will implement in game will not **** over the sandbox.
We need to know what's coming, MT wise. Are any non-vanity items going to appear in that store? What are these designs you speak of?
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Mumu Mueller
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Posted - 2011.06.24 01:50:00 -
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Hey Pann,
im just interested: have you ever played the game we are talking about?
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VicturusTeSaluto
Metafarmers MeatSausage EXPRESS
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Posted - 2011.06.24 01:50:00 -
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Honestly, CCP. It's time for some real transparency and accountability. I doubt the leaked newsletter will be the last thing that is leaked and we are all just waiting for the other shoe to drop at this point.
Might as well try to get ahead of the game. Better than playing catch up, no?
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General Xenophon
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Posted - 2011.06.24 01:50:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Manifest
Originally by: Evelgrivion Edited by: Evelgrivion on 24/06/2011 00:36:49 Here's my big question that I demand an answer to.
Are you going to **** the EVE Online sandbox over for Monetary Transactions or not? If not, all is forgiven. If MTs are going to impact the sandbox, start printing your resumes and god help you all.
The designs we will implement in game will not **** over the sandbox.
That's bull and if you don't know it then you and those who think that shouldn't be running Pay to Play games!
You don't add a 'free to play' item shop that gives game items of value to a 'pay to play' game and not know this will unbalance the game! Totally crystal clear once you stop thinking in dollar signs and read the writing on the wall: this will ruin Eve, destroy the playerbase, and collapse CCP financially until they turn it into the legit 'free to play' money whoring enterprise they want it to be.
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Major Stallion
The Dark Horses.
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Posted - 2011.06.24 01:50:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Manifest
Originally by: Evelgrivion Edited by: Evelgrivion on 24/06/2011 00:36:49 Here's my big question that I demand an answer to.
Are you going to **** the EVE Online sandbox over for Monetary Transactions or not? If not, all is forgiven. If MTs are going to impact the sandbox, start printing your resumes and god help you all.
The designs we will implement in game will not **** over the sandbox.
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Deaell Portt
V O O D O O
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Posted - 2011.06.24 01:50:00 -
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Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me. CCP u dont made fool of me NEVER again.
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Nedak Pather
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Posted - 2011.06.24 01:50:00 -
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WHY DO YOU PEOPLE GIVE A **** ABOUT VANITY ITEMS?
The problem isn't ****ing vanity items, it's about the fact that NON-VANITY items could potentially be bought using micro-transactions.
God damn people, get your priorities straight.
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Dregol
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Posted - 2011.06.24 01:50:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Manifest
Originally by: Takishu Damn, they bring us back the Ancients.
She's not THAT old.
It'd go a long way to rebuilding our confidence if you stopped replying to posts that pertain in no way to the major issues at hand. By continuing to avoid the concerns of the players that have been voiced in this ever growing thread-naught all you're doing is further insulting our intelligence. At this point, you're a lone peon trying to put out a giant forest fire: it isn't going to work. Give us some real answers.
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Miilla
Minmatar Hulkageddon Orphanage
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Posted - 2011.06.24 01:50:00 -
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Th0rG0d
Terminal Pharmaceuticals Inc.
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Posted - 2011.06.24 01:50:00 -
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Originally by: Aldred Partridge
Originally by: CCP Manifest
Originally by: AkJon Ferguson Has soundwave been fired yet?
Will all future editions of 'Fearless' be released publicly?
Is there anything else you've lied to the playerbase about (MT for vanity ONLY) that we might like to know about?
Soundwave will NOT be fired nor should he. I personally would not like to see one of the driving forces behind the Alliance Tournament and the spiritual leader of Team BFF take a fall for agreeing to present one opposing side of the microtransaction debate in an internal newsletter.
I do agree with CCP Manifest, I don't think Soundwave should be fired, but I would like very much for him to show up and perhaps explain to us in more detail what exactly his intentions are regarding these microtransactions, because I feel that the direction he wants to take it is effecting our game play, our sandbox. I imagine it like finding a big kid standing in my playground peeing in my favorite spot..
Can anyone confirm if Soundwave will still be attending EveVegas? I will be. I'd love to see him there. 
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Zverofaust
Gallente Incompertus INC Fatal Ascension
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Posted - 2011.06.24 01:51:00 -
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Originally by: Ga'len
CCP stated that micro transactions would NEVER be used for anything.
FYP.
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Sinker1345
ANZAC ALLIANCE RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2011.06.24 01:51:00 -
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Edited by: Sinker1345 on 24/06/2011 01:52:25
Originally by: CCP Pann The newsletter was not fake. I guess this is how it feels when someone reads your diary, something you hadn't intended anyone else to see. Not to deflect the heat but to explain why what I'm about to say, I wasn't involved with writing it. The only reason I mention that is because I am not going to presume to know the minds of the people who did have comments in there. I am not going to throw people I love under the bus or to the lions or whatever. I can't/won't answer questions about what they said or why they said it.
Our newsletters are written as a means to bring about discussion (that sometimes can even become heated debate) among our coworkers. That's really all I can say about it. I am not a game designer. I'm a mouthpiece. I'll admit it. By the time I get involved, the decisions have been made. Not making excuses for myself, just explaining.
after this has been said you really need to give us a permanent sticky on the front page of general discussion stating that you will never offer micro transactions for anything that provides an in game advantage
RIGHT NOW AFTER SEEING THAT NEWSLETTER CONFIRMED AS REAL I AM WAITING UNTIL THE FIRST MT THAT OFFERS AN IN GAME ADVANTAGE GETS INTRODUCED TO CANCEL MY ACCOUNTS GIVE ME PERMANENT PROOF THAT THIS WILL NOT HAPPEN
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Majuan Shuo
Gallente Sons Of 0din Fatal Ascension
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Posted - 2011.06.24 01:51:00 -
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Edited by: Majuan Shuo on 24/06/2011 01:52:05
Originally by: CCP Manifest
Originally by: Majuan Shuo Edited by: Majuan Shuo on 24/06/2011 01:18:12
Originally by: CCP Pann
Hi, everyone
As I see it, the chief complaint is regarding the high cost of goods in the Nobel Market.
Then you are blind, go get us someone else. 
You have to admit that some people are vexed about the high cost of the monocle... but not because they would buy one at 3/4 the cost.
I think Pann might have mistyped (as she did with Nobel/Noble) and put that instead of NeX/Microtransaction. That's the chief concern atm, and of course there are the other more immediate ones and of course the longer tail concerns that many of you have mentioned here.
Just stop posting.
EDIT: and get us a dev with straight "yes"/"no" answers.
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SailorBacon
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Posted - 2011.06.24 01:51:00 -
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Originally by: Reed Tiburon
Originally by: CCP Manifest
Originally by: Evelgrivion Edited by: Evelgrivion on 24/06/2011 00:36:49
ARE you, or are you NOT, going to implement non-vanity MTs at ANY POINT??
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Raid'En
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Posted - 2011.06.24 01:51:00 -
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Edited by: Raid''En on 24/06/2011 01:51:46 CCP, the answer is simple : explain to us. all.
explain us why you putted MT, and why like this. you need a PLEX sink ? say it. you have financial issue ? say it. we are not your investissors, we won't flee if you say it. at the opposite you'll have less whine if you explain us that you need it.
explain us why you think incarna is needed now. and why you need to rush it after 8 years, and so give us something without gameplay and full of bugs. you do it for new suscriber and immerion. fine. but don't **** up the immersion by forcing us to leave our ship everytime, be coherent.
explain us why you can't do XX now but can do YY. the dev blogs like the one for the weapons are good. it explain what was impossible before, and what is now. same for the items change and BPCs icons. you need to do way more like this, and do it BEFORE it's done. do it NOW, so we understand what is the issue, what you CAN do and what you CANNOT (for now)
do NOT fear talking. that's a pretty big default you have. when will you understand ? we bite way more when we don't have an answer than when you give us something to bite talking is not suicide, it's not talking which is.
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Tus
Gallente Kryton Solutions Cognitive Development
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Posted - 2011.06.24 01:51:00 -
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Originally by: Mehrdad Kor-Azor Edited by: Mehrdad Kor-Azor on 24/06/2011 01:49:06 Dear CCP,
Return to your promises from a year ago.
Thank you.
/signed.
I remember that, please go back to that stance. Thanks.
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Snake Scofield
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Posted - 2011.06.24 01:51:00 -
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Quote:
This is. your last chance.
Heads must roll. They should have rolled already when you released the abortions that are EVEgate and the new Forums. They should have rolled the moment you broke your "no MT ever promise" They should have rolled yesterday when you were celebrating your "amazing and above expectations launch" You are deluding yourselves, you buy your own publicity, but we no longer do.
I know you won't answer me, since I'm you big "troublemaker" but there you go.
Signed,
Helicity -****ing- Boson's Alt.
Your level of maturity really shines through in this post. I'm sure everyone at CCP is taking everything you say very seriously. Thanks btw for posting a speculative internal discussion on the pros/cons of MT as if they were patch notes. Enjoy the ban.
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Kez Aumer
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Posted - 2011.06.24 01:51:00 -
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Originally by: Zverofaust Irony overload; spend 48 hours desperately trying to get an official CCP response, then order CCP to stop responding when they finally do.
True. We weren't expecting them to send the comedy squad first.
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Captain Futur3
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Posted - 2011.06.24 01:51:00 -
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Why are microtransactions needed in a game where i have to pay 15 Euro per account? So far, only free to play games have microtransactions (with very very very few exceptions) and it feels like a pure ripoff! The sense behind microtransactions is to pay the developerss for their work, but we are already paying for THREE developer teams working on 2 other games than eve. And all of them are bigger than the Eve Developer team. So isnt it time to give us something back in terms of some HUGE addon? Just for an example, you did 2 new ship models in 3 expansions, this clearly shows ME that you just dont care about eve anymore. I bet 10 billion ISK that in the same time, you created about 100 new (at least as complex as the maller) models for the other games.
Please answer this question. I will bump and repeat it until some dev says something about this.
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Brooks Puuntai
Minmatar Nomadic Asylum
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Posted - 2011.06.24 01:51:00 -
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For all those calling for CCP Soundwave to be fired.. Don't
He voiced his opinion on a internal document. While it was a pretty bad opinion when it comes to Eve it is still just his opinion. I would be more concerned about the state of CCP if they actually did fire someone over a opinion.
Even still NeX and MTs have no place in Eve.. Vanity or not. You already have 2 MT based games coming out theres no reason to degrade Eve with them.
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Da Gooch
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Posted - 2011.06.24 01:51:00 -
[657]
WAR
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Mac Aoidh
Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2011.06.24 01:52:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Manifest
Originally by: Evelgrivion Edited by: Evelgrivion on 24/06/2011 00:36:49 Here's my big question that I demand an answer to.
Are you going to **** the EVE Online sandbox over for Monetary Transactions or not? If not, all is forgiven. If MTs are going to impact the sandbox, start printing your resumes and god help you all.
The designs we will implement in game will not **** over the sandbox.
Your going to create ships out of thin air and put them in nex to sell via MT. That is ****ing the sandbox!!
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Erichan
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Posted - 2011.06.24 01:52:00 -
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Bottomline:
Is CCP ready to put its playerbase at the center of its universe (pun fully intended)?
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Joey Moonbeam
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Posted - 2011.06.24 01:52:00 -
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Originally by: Seleene CCP, I'd just like to say one quick thing: since there's now two big threads, don't take take the number of pages and unique character posts and add them all up as metric of success that the matter is under control.
Also, this dude continues to state the obvious but he's got big yellow text so imma quote him!
Originally by: Tipsy 3.Talk to the CSM. That's what it's there for. Its members could have told you how the community would respond to the third party licensing blog, Noble Exchange pricing and to the removal of the old hangar. If CCP had taken the quick, no-cost step of simply asking the CSM it could have avoided causing almost all of the irritation and negative media coverage it has generated in the past few weeks.
I do believe the CSM is a sham.
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