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SNeAkYbRiT Gunslingers Corp	Posted - 2011.06.26 07:44:00 - [9811] Yeah why did CCP hire a Banker that helped cause the fall of world Banking? how the **** does any banker get a job after all that...Its like all the CEO's that bust companies, they always seem to get another job straight away, if u screwed up in ya job and caused the company to go under you'd never get another job in that postion again, wouldn't u???
The Pteradactyl	Posted - 2011.06.26 07:45:00 - [9812] Edited by: The Pteradactyl on 26/06/2011 07:45:44 These are growing pains. The game will shed some dead skin (o/ bittervets) and emerge stronger and better. If you don't like it, you should go with them. Please don't burn it down on your way out. Edit: Can I have your stuff?
NoYen	Posted - 2011.06.26 07:46:00 - [9813] If you're warring be sure to dock up on Friday; you don't want to get payday hot dropped.
Constantinus Maximus Paxian Expeditionary Force	Posted - 2011.06.26 07:46:00 - [9814] Edited by: Constantinus Maximus on 26/06/2011 07:47:36 Originally by: Abrazzar 12 year olds are good for 6 months tops until something new comes out to jump on. Exactly. Remember how CCP foundout their retention was 7 months and they weren't sure what to do about it? Then they spent a lot of time on NPE? They only want 7-9 months. They know the game is **** after that. Also as others have explained you can't compete with CCP so eventually you hit a brick wall and realise the game is a deadend. They don't want old burdonsome players who demand stuff. edit: 12 yos aren't 12 yos forever but more just keep coming and they have a pester power shortcut into the parents wallet. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F4YHvtEJgBc FINALLY SOME TRUTH!!
MotherMoon Huang Yinglong	Posted - 2011.06.26 07:46:00 - [9815] Originally by: Kraxalious Originally by: Turkatron Original size Pretty much dead on... To be fair there is a section about why MT for non-vanity items are bad. people need to put up both sides. Only issue is the person saying yes in charge, the person saying no has barley any power or say on anything.
Incendia Everto	Posted - 2011.06.26 07:46:00 - [9816] Originally by: Demure Guise Edited by: Demure Guise on 26/06/2011 07:40:47 Hey, ÇÇP! ARE YOU GOING TO SELL NON_VANITY ITEMS VIA MT? [ ] YES [ ] NO Would you like the question made any simpler? One simple answer will solve all the fury, one way or another.
kestrael nanahara Caldari Wrecking Shots Wildly Inappropriate.	Posted - 2011.06.26 07:48:00 - [9817] Originally by: The Pteradactyl Edited by: The Pteradactyl on 26/06/2011 07:45:44 These are growing pains. The game will shed some dead skin (o/ bittervets) and emerge stronger and better. If you don't like it, you should go with them. Please don't burn it down on your way out. Edit: Can I have your stuff? Well from what we can tell CCP is having money problems developing three games and in 40 hours it looks like about 1% of the player base is leaving so we will see how that turns out.
Annie Anomie Shadows Of The Federation	Posted - 2011.06.26 07:48:00 - [9818] Well done CCP. Well done.
Manos Heimenbarger	Posted - 2011.06.26 07:48:00 - [9819] Originally by: The Pteradactyl Edited by: The Pteradactyl on 26/06/2011 07:45:44 These are growing pains. The game will shed some dead skin (o/ bittervets) and emerge stronger and better. If you don't like it, you should go with them. Please don't burn it down on your way out. Edit: Can I have your stuff? I would rather EVE burn than die a slow death as non-vanity items keep it going as long as possible. SWG is dying December 15th. It dragged on in its sorry state for far too long.
Constantinus Maximus Paxian Expeditionary Force	Posted - 2011.06.26 07:49:00 - [9820] Edited by: Constantinus Maximus on 26/06/2011 07:49:24 Originally by: Incendia Everto [ ] YES [ ] NO Give it up already. edit: lol at 1%.... 99% you mean. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F4YHvtEJgBc FINALLY SOME TRUTH!!

Tez Saurus	Posted - 2011.06.26 07:49:00 - [9821] Originally by: Vapidity Who wants to do any kind of business with someone or some entity that has no integrity? Sony. They deserve each other.
Chandra Azaph	Posted - 2011.06.26 07:49:00 - [9822] I think much of the uproar is not completely about MT right now, although that is what is behind it. For me, it boils down to this: 1. I think that CCP Zulu really made a terrible choice when it came to his post. It was unprofessional, nonchalant, and really told the Eve customer base that he did not care about anything. That is at least the impression I got and looks like so many did as well. If he would have just made the statement about MT versus in-game advantages, either direction he said would have at least shown that he cares about the players concerns and have driven the stake in the ground now. People could choose what they want to do next. But, obviously ignored what has been on the boards. 2. No response from CCP other than Zulu's blog and Zulu never even came back to the blog. It gives the impression they dont care and are just ignoring everything and they are just hoping it all goes away. Probably not hoping, but probably confident that people will whine themselves out and it will all disappear after a few weeks and CCP would have gotten some great publicity. I think that the major uproar is really that communication from CCP has been shiat (incompetently) at the very best with communication and their lack of concern, caring and non-chalance when it comes to caring about the community. Players are throwing them bones all over the place, but obviously not one person, except maybe CCP Pann could/can see where things will go. CCP Pann gave an apology and I say it was perfect and ccp had the chance the drive a stake in the ground (either direction) on their follow up. CCP Zulu screwed up anything that CCP Panns post bought them.
Vastek Non	Posted - 2011.06.26 07:50:00 - [9823] Originally by: NoYen If you're warring be sure to dock up on Friday; you don't want to get payday hot dropped. Thursdays are pension days in my part of the world. You gunna have to keep an eye on your timezones to know where to fly. Fridays EU/US - fly at night only Thursdays Asia Pacific - daylight only (they only come out at night) If you thought POS timers were bad you try to organise an op around this (I won't as unsub happens the monent pay for win commences or is announced, whichever is first)
Pesadel0 the muppets RED.OverLord	Posted - 2011.06.26 07:50:00 - [9824] Originally by: Manos Heimenbarger Originally by: The Pteradactyl Edited by: The Pteradactyl on 26/06/2011 07:45:44 These are growing pains. The game will shed some dead skin (o/ bittervets) and emerge stronger and better. If you don't like it, you should go with them. Please don't burn it down on your way out. Edit: Can I have your stuff? I would rather EVE burn than die a slow death as non-vanity items keep it going as long as possible. SWG is dying December 15th. It dragged on in its sorry state for far too long. This, ten times .
DarkTemplarCrimsonWolf Amarr	Posted - 2011.06.26 07:50:00 - [9825] If the numbers are true and 2000 accounts already got unsubbed that's 30.000 ish dollars right there (some pay in euros, some in dollars, likelihood is the sum is greater than 30k), 30.000 * 12= 360.000 $ in profit down the tube this year if they do not listen, that's quite a chunk of change.
jazz keijhlani	Posted - 2011.06.26 07:51:00 - [9826] thinking about to stop playing eve. and im sure i can afford also a 1000 dollar jeans in the future.....sad days for the community and our beloved game...shame on u ccp.
Azanee Yarabokin	Posted - 2011.06.26 07:52:00 - [9827] I really wanted to like Incarna. Anticipation of it was the main thing that brought me back to Eve. Now it's here, and it sucks. I can't believe anyone would think the prospect of pay-to-win would go over well with the membership, either existing or the hordes you imagined would flock to Eve to buy $60 monocles. Nor is it particularly clever business to basically call your subscribers a bunch of suckers. I have to ask, who the hell coded CQ? It seriously took 70 devs years to write the code for my toon to sit on a couch and watch Eve's terrible cable access channel? Was it 70 monkeys banging on keyboards? Sitting on this couch consumes 86% of the resources on my year-old GTX 470. At least it did until I turned CQ off. Are you insane? I can't think of a single game I've played that comes close to eating that much GPU, even when a huge amount of action (you've heard of action, right?) is happening on screen. Oh, and why does the lighting in Captain's Hostel make my toon look like a crack***** who took a bad beating from her pimp? I seem to recall a video from years ago about the fabulous new lighting technology for WiS. I guess that got left on the floor along with all the other promises. What the hell is up with this tiny hostel room, anyway? I'm the immortal captain of a starship and my station quarters are smaller and uglier than any motel room. Why can't I stay in my freaking pod? I'm sure it's at least cleaner than this dump. With monocles at over $60, what will CCP want when they do start selling Noble spaceships? "Sorry, honey, I know we needed the $20k in savings for a new car, but my Eve alliance really needed a new titan." "So log in and show me this spaceship I'm supposed to use to drive to work." "Welllll, I would, but see...the guy from the other alliance who bought a titan mashed his Noble Win Button faster than I could, so the titan is gone." "You mean your ship got blown up?" "Yes, but he did loot my win button from the wreck and send me a nice screenshot of it sitting on his CQ coffee table!" "You'd better call CONCORD now." Reaches for a meat cleaver. "Because you're about to get ganked." CCP management need to climb in a Viking longship and row yourselves to Greenland and back while you have a good long think about the bad choices you've made. Leave your pants ashore. Someone will be along in another vessel to sell you those $1000 pants you adore so much.
Torquil Noble Caldari Eternal Profiteers	Posted - 2011.06.26 07:53:00 - [9828] Originally by: Wearfield Battlecruiser Skill Bonus: 5% off the price of Adidas shoes and 5% bonus to Adidas store credit per level. and don't forget to collect your green shield stamps... TN Sometimes the road seems long, and then you realise you're on a roundabout
Vastek Non	Posted - 2011.06.26 07:53:00 - [9829] Originally by: Pesadel0 Originally by: Manos Heimenbarger Originally by: The Pteradactyl Edited by: The Pteradactyl on 26/06/2011 07:45:44 These are growing pains. The game will shed some dead skin (o/ bittervets) and emerge stronger and better. If you don't like it, you should go with them. Please don't burn it down on your way out. Edit: Can I have your stuff? I would rather EVE burn than die a slow death as non-vanity items keep it going as long as possible. SWG is dying December 15th. It dragged on in its sorry state for far too long. This, ten times . QFT - invested far too much into this to see it take years to die. It would be like watching a favourite pet die in agony.
Izuru Hishido Amarr Origin. Black Legion.	Posted - 2011.06.26 07:53:00 - [9830] Originally by: CCP Pann Edited by: CCP Pann on 24/06/2011 00:50:29 Hi.... ...ItÆs clear that many of you are <understatement alert> angry </alert>. No kidding? CCP Pann, you have no idea why we're really angry, do you? At the very least, I see fit to share some of my rage at this change with you. Its really very, very simple. I'm a paying **ing customer and I deserve to know what my money is being used for. I'm not paying for a 70 USD Monacle, nor to play space sims, nor to do anything else so preposterous. I am not stock that you can treat like a market index and completely ignore if you feel it so suits you. I was a loyal ing customer for your 'employers' for years, but now that I've seen that CCP doesn't even have customer support that gives a ** about the customers, I'm querying the wisdom I had in making that judgement in the first place. You completely ignored the customers that said 'FIX THE ISSUES WITH FLYING IN SPACE' because you wanted to introduce market transactions that would force us to pay you more money (since I'm guessing this is the actual reason behind Incarna,) and you thought we would just accept that?! Do you have any idea how asinine that is? Well, I do. I've been screaming bloody murder to whatever customer rep would hear, but no one did. No one stopped to listen to hear what I, your formerly loyal paying customer had to say, so you can take Incarna and shove it up whatever hole you want. I don't care if you feel that I've been rude with this post. You tried to treat me like stock and ignored what I had to say. Sincerely enraged-- Izuru ----------------- "It is better to keep your mouth shut and appear stupid than to open it and remove all doubt."

G 0 D	Posted - 2011.06.26 07:55:00 - [9831] People that are leaving should give Perpetuum Online a try. Hundreds of players that have quit over this are in the perpetuum ingame channel EVE http://www.perpetuum-online.com/
Constantinus Maximus Paxian Expeditionary Force	Posted - 2011.06.26 07:55:00 - [9832] Originally by: Pesadel0 Originally by: Manos Heimenbarger I would rather EVE burn than die a slow death as non-vanity items keep it going as long as possible. SWG is dying December 15th. It dragged on in its sorry state for far too long. This, ten times . CCP also deserves a bit of punishment for taking upto 8 years of our subscriptions into the "future" and using them to line their own pockets at the expense of the service we paid them to maintain. While lying straight to our faces for 3-4 ****ing years. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F4YHvtEJgBc FINALLY SOME TRUTH!!
The Pteradactyl	Posted - 2011.06.26 07:56:00 - [9833] I hope they do add SP, faction standings, etc for real money. That would be great if they would eliminate the need for EVE's sloppy character selling program. I just hope CCP doesn't cut in to the player economy like ships and ammo. I think they won't because breaking EVE's economy would really break the game. But adding things to it (like +10 implants) will dillute the ISK and hopefully slow inflation slightly.
Terianna Eri Senex Legio Get Off My Lawn	Posted - 2011.06.26 07:56:00 - [9834] Originally by: Manos Heimenbarger I would rather EVE burn than die a slow death as non-vanity items keep it going as long as possible. This. If EVE is to be ruined, the players are more than capable of doing it themselves and in a much more spectacular way than CCP ever could. ________________
Thunderess Silence	Posted - 2011.06.26 07:59:00 - [9835] I just wanted to say, the last MMO i played started up 6 years ago, they introduced the same type store 2 years ago, they are shutting down the game this winter. Is it just the players or does CCP not read any of the PC Gaming mags out there. And to tell the truth the damage control on this one has been absolutely horrid. You'd think with the responses given to date, the average age of the devs and management must be somewhere between spoiled brat and where's my pampers pull ups. OOO thank god, i found my hip boots before ccp throws more Bulls#!t at me I doubt i'll be continueing my subscription much longer, if something doesn't change in the next couple days. thanks ccp for ruining the best game i've found to date over a few extra dollars
Constantinus Maximus Paxian Expeditionary Force	Posted - 2011.06.26 07:59:00 - [9836] Edited by: Constantinus Maximus on 26/06/2011 08:00:42 Edited by: Constantinus Maximus on 26/06/2011 07:59:47 Originally by: The Pteradactyl I hope they do add SP, faction standings, etc for real money. That would be great if they would eliminate the need for EVE's sloppy character selling program. I just hope CCP doesn't cut in to the player economy like ships and ammo. I think they won't because breaking EVE's economy would really break the game. But adding things to it (like +10 implants) will dillute the ISK and hopefully slow inflation slightly. There will be no industrialists in the Eve of the future. edit: if we didn't findout soon enough to prevent CCP from gettin there. i.e. The go bust in a few months time or Eve comes out F2P P2W no indy. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F4YHvtEJgBc FINALLY SOME TRUTH!!
The Pteradactyl	Posted - 2011.06.26 08:00:00 - [9837] Edited by: The Pteradactyl on 26/06/2011 08:01:06 So rather than move on peacefully you'd destroy the game you used to love. I bet you've never had a good breakup. Edit: Can I have your stuff?
Londo Cebb Official Market Discussions Troll	Posted - 2011.06.26 08:01:00 - [9838] This isn't to 10,000 yet? WTF
Constantinus Maximus Paxian Expeditionary Force	Posted - 2011.06.26 08:02:00 - [9839] Originally by: The Pteradactyl Edited by: The Pteradactyl on 26/06/2011 08:01:06 So rather than move on peacefully you'd destroy the game you used to love. I bet you've never had a good breakup. Edit: Can I have your stuff? We still love the game. CCP doesn't. They did it. All themselves. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F4YHvtEJgBc FINALLY SOME TRUTH!!
diaufop	Posted - 2011.06.26 08:02:00 - [9840] Someone who actually watches that pony show gave me a better picture.



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