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Angeliq
Minmatar Silent Overwatch S I L E N T.
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Posted - 2011.06.26 11:49:00 -
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Edited by: Angeliq on 26/06/2011 11:50:09 http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1536065&page=340
Check Constantinus Maximus' post on the bottom of the page. (3rd up from bottom)
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Constantinus Maximus
Paxian Expeditionary Force
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Posted - 2011.06.26 11:51:00 -
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Edited by: Constantinus Maximus on 26/06/2011 11:51:31 Ok I've got an analogy for it everyone should get.
Ever worked for someone? Had a boss?
Ever been closer to the work then them, had an issue with it, but they didn't get it?
Ever had them push you to do something you knew was fail? ...........
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F4YHvtEJgBc
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Phantom SV
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Posted - 2011.06.26 11:52:00 -
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Quote: Bj÷rg=lfur Thor Bj÷rg=lfsson
His mother is ¦=ra Hallgrfmsd=ttir, ex-wife of George Lincoln Rockwell, the founder of the American N a z i Party.
Source is WIKIPEDIA GREED IS GOOD, BUT CHANGE IS BETTER! You can die slowly CCP, someone else will seize the opportunity, learn from you're mistakes, steal the good ideas and make a better game. |
Marcus Vorenius
Task Force 42
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Posted - 2011.06.26 11:53:00 -
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Joe Sarno: So, you the brains of this outfit, or is he? Longbaugh: Tell ya the truth, I don't think this is a brains kind of operation
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0202677/quotes?qt=qt0240302
Opening scene from Way of The Gun: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eQLXYu6plhg
CAR = SPACESHIP
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Devil's Call
Caldari Malicious Destruction War Against the Manifest
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Posted - 2011.06.26 11:53:00 -
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I'm looking forward to reading an official response from you, CCP. -----------------------------------------------
ôAll fixed set patterns are incapable of adaptability or pliability. The truth is outside of all fixed patterns.ö |
Headerman
Minmatar Quovis Shadow of xXDEATHXx
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Posted - 2011.06.26 11:54:00 -
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So is there a reply at all from CCP?
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Mr Pikey
Caldari
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Posted - 2011.06.26 11:54:00 -
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Just to add our voice to this epic thread, myself and 3 sons who play (about 6 accounts in total) are watching this very closely and depending on the answer may well close our accounts in the near future.
The problem for us is we not only play the game but also use it as a family communications centre, we even have our own æfamilyÆ chat channel so we can keep in touch, so you see this is more than a game to us.
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Thom Baron
Caldari Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2011.06.26 11:54:00 -
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Dear CCP, still no word on broken installer/repair tool.
Trying perpetuum now.
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Glyken Touchon
Gallente Independent Alchemists
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Posted - 2011.06.26 11:54:00 -
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Originally by: SupaKudoRio
FakeEdit: ... oh, right, I can't cancel until my sub has <30 days. Whatever, I'll just have to make a mark on the calendar and... dunno, check out Perpetuum I suppose; it's getting mentioned a lot.
Check the new account management page. ______ Tippia's analysis Meissa's blog |
Kharontos
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Posted - 2011.06.26 11:54:00 -
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Definately looking forward to answers in your next devblog, CCP.
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Bendy Profane
The Red Circle Inc.
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Posted - 2011.06.26 11:54:00 -
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Originally by: Hyperforce99 Edited by: Hyperforce99 on 26/06/2011 11:37:13
listen to this EVE radio discussion with several CSM members and prominent players. It made things really clear on whats going on here.
I'm not blaming CCP Zulu or CCP Soundwave. Zulu's blog didn't sound like him at all. It sounds more like Hilmar or someone in higher management is forcing the company into this direction and it muting all the other sounds from the company...
Aye.
Fallout, get yourself a hot meal, rest your eyes for a moment and listen to Mynxee, Seleene, Trebor and the Mittani on the recording. Good points are made and you can hear everybody collectively facepalming over the current situation.
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San Severina
Minmatar
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Posted - 2011.06.26 11:55:00 -
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Still being ignored after over 10k posts.
Awesome job CCP
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Devil's Call
Caldari Malicious Destruction War Against the Manifest
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Posted - 2011.06.26 11:55:00 -
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Edited by: Devil''s Call on 26/06/2011 11:56:42 Tipia's response to Nex/CQ. -----------------------------------------------
ôAll fixed set patterns are incapable of adaptability or pliability. The truth is outside of all fixed patterns.ö |
Nikki West
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Posted - 2011.06.26 11:56:00 -
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cvpIzBnCCKg ---
Free LIANG, Free HELICITY, Free ANGEL HUN |
Constantinus Maximus
Paxian Expeditionary Force
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Posted - 2011.06.26 11:56:00 -
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Edited by: Constantinus Maximus on 26/06/2011 11:57:10
Originally by: Headerman So is there a reply at all from CCP?
Original size
CCP: "GFY"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F4YHvtEJgBc
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Miilla
Minmatar Hulkageddon Orphanage
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Posted - 2011.06.26 11:57:00 -
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Well I already have 42 PLEX; thats money in the bank for CCP already, may aswell screw their NEX stats and buy monocles :)
That will help put the nail in the coffin, or I could wait for GOLDEN AMMO, then buy 20 billion worth of it :)
Oh and if they ask what NEX items we want, oh yeah, I want lots of game changing stuffz :)
Anything to speed this trainwreck along :)
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Zeg Quul
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Posted - 2011.06.26 11:58:00 -
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Edited by: Zeg Quul on 26/06/2011 11:59:35
Hey Hilmar, you are enslaving the body of Eve we are its spirit. Once the spirit is gone a Golem remains.
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Gil Warden
Gallente Priory of Empire SpaceMonkey's Alliance
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Posted - 2011.06.26 11:58:00 -
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Edited by: Gil Warden on 26/06/2011 11:59:05
Originally by: Miilla
Get it through your THICK SKULLs, Incarna will NEVER bee an option, why? Because it is the main driver for Microtransactions everwhere.
I wonder what a virtual beer will cost in the station bar, or a visit to the hookers there as well. After all, the outposts have advertisements for "erotic" services on their back sides. When making omelets, don't crack MY Egg.
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Ravcharas
GREY COUNCIL Nulli Secunda
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Posted - 2011.06.26 11:59:00 -
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Originally by: Argus Sorn Honestly I do think that there is a bit too much anger being generated over what is ultimately an internal memo in an essentially private corporation.
Hi Argus. (Please come back to Nulli. Guderian has delusions of grandeur and is styling himself to be crowned king of all that he can see and I don't know how to talk him down.)
I'd like to reflect a little bit on your points.
First off I think it's not just anger over the internal memo. This is a perfect storm of faeces. Some people are angry at what was stated in the newsletter, some are angry about to overpriced MT items, some are worried about it being a step in a direction they don't want to see, some are angry at the communication policy, some are concerned about neglect of spaceship content, some are simply angry. Dispelling it by looking at the detail, while a perfectly valid tactic, usually won't work because these kinds of upsets rarely if ever happens in a vacuum.
Now I agree that CCP have no obligation to make their internal discussions public. There are however many things that private companies are under no formal obligation to do but which they do anyway. This is particularly important for companies that aspire to have a relationship with their customers that go beyond a financial transaction. Now one may feel that my dollar should buy me X amount of product and that's that. But for better or for worse customers expect more. I believe it is for the better, and I'm in communications myself - I know it's not fun to be caught up in that ****.
It has also been pointed out, I believe by CSM representatives, that the print version of Fearless is laying about the offices for any visitor to read. If this is true I wouldn't go so far as to call it internal.
As for the supposed company wide Hilmar-mail I don't agree with you that customer upset should be aimed at the hypothetical whistle blower. The reason is that I think it's a symptom of an internal disease that these things leak out in the first place. A leak tells me that employee X is so frustrated with the direction of the company and the way in which this direction is being implemented that they have no other option left but risk their jobs to try to change it. Employees that feel that their opinion has been duly noted and respectfully considered don't leak stuff. Not even if their opinion is completely opposed to what is being done.
The issue here, I feel, is that CCP have consistently miscommunicated with their customers. It seems to me as if they are trying to rebrand themselves as some kind of premium experience providers, when most of their customers are worried about unbalanced game content and would like to see a supercarrier fix or missile turrets rather than avatar customization as a means of self-expression. If they want us to understand how their design process works, if they ask two people to argue points they don't necessarily agree wih as thought experiments, then all they would have needed to do is show us how it's done. A devblog saying "this is how we make the game" and that would have been that.
I might concede that too much openness can paralyze a company, maybe not in the way you would agree though, but CCP is nowhere near that limit. And saying that CCP is better at this than their competition may be technically true, but that speaks more to the state of affairs in the game development business. And in any case, I don't give much of a **** about those other companies. I do not frequent their establishments, as it were.
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Cutter Isaacson
Minmatar Fearsome Engine
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Posted - 2011.06.26 11:59:00 -
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Originally by: Miilla Edited by: Miilla on 26/06/2011 11:57:36
Well I already have 42 PLEX; thats money in the bank for CCP already, may aswell screw their NEX stats and buy monocles :)
That will help put the nail in the coffin, or I could wait for GOLDEN AMMO, then buy 20 billion worth of it :)
Oh and if they ask what NEX items we want, oh yeah, I want lots of game changing stuffz :)
May aswell send them on a wild goose chase.
Anything to speed this trainwreck along :)
Miilla is a CCP employee?
Originally by: Urban Dictionary Bro we just got monocled by CCP
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Kharontos
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Posted - 2011.06.26 12:00:00 -
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Originally by: Miilla Edited by: Miilla on 26/06/2011 11:57:36
May aswell send them on a golden goose chase.
FTFY
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Abrazzar
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Posted - 2011.06.26 12:00:00 -
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Guess no one in CCP considers this important enough to do call in a meeting during the free weekends.
I mean, they (think) they deserved this free weekend after a successful and issue poor expansion day. --------
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Gulliver Rex
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Posted - 2011.06.26 12:01:00 -
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Edited by: Gulliver Rex on 26/06/2011 12:02:16 I don't think it is all that hard to defeat them. But you are not going to do it here. Or, by canceling the subs.
The way to do it, it has to be inside the game.
I guess it would take discipline, and solidarity (but this should not be a problem, since you are all clamoring that you were never this united before). Something like what the Greeks did, cease all hostilities and focus on the Persian threat.
Contracts? Perhaps a new currency in the game. Not isk, not plex, not aurum ... make those worthless. Have your own, some kind of Greenback. I am not an economist, but it cannot be that hard to figure it out.
Don't shoot the freakin statues, shoot/shun the Jovians.
Emergent gameplay? Sandbox? What are you waiting for, Hilmar to come and give you permission, sell you a licence?
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The Middle Man
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Posted - 2011.06.26 12:01:00 -
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Originally by: Miilla Edited by: Miilla on 26/06/2011 11:57:36
Well I already have 42 PLEX; thats money in the bank for CCP already, may aswell screw their NEX stats and buy monocles :)
That will help put the nail in the coffin, or I could wait for GOLDEN AMMO, then buy 20 billion worth of it :)
Oh and if they ask what NEX items we want, oh yeah, I want lots of game changing stuffz :)
May aswell send them on a wild goose chase.
Anything to speed this trainwreck along :)
Inject them all so they are no longer in the market and can't be used in the aurum store. Maybe get banned as well with the account they were injected on to show they are wasted. Refuse to give anything to what they expect to be their new cash crop. |
Brother Pullo
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Posted - 2011.06.26 12:02:00 -
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Originally by: San Severina Still being ignored after over 10k posts.
Awesome job CCP
At first I honestly thought that we didn't get a reply because everyone at CCP was in emergency meetings to fix the situation.
By now it is my firm belief that the non-information is official CCP policy. "Let them rant on the forums for a couple of days, than start posting half-arsed statements mixing truth and lies as usual, but we won't change a thing about our plans. So what if 10.000 hardcore fans leave our game, the new players coming to Eve with Incarna/Ambulation will easily make up for the loss. And those new guys will love to buy items for Aurum to give them advantages."
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Miilla
Minmatar Hulkageddon Orphanage
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Posted - 2011.06.26 12:02:00 -
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Originally by: Gulliver Rex I don't think it is all that hard to defeat them. But you are not going to do it here. Or, by canceling the subs.
The way to do it, it has to be inside the game.
I guess it would take discipline, and solidarity (but this should not be a problem, since you are all clamoring that you were never this united before). Something like what the Greeks did, cease all hostilities and focus on the Persian threat.
Contracts? Perhaps a new currency in the game. Not isk, not plex, not aurum ... make those worthless. Have your own, some kind of Greenback. I am not an economist, but I cannot be that hard to figure it out.
Don't shoot the freakin statues, shoot/shun the Jovians.
Emergent gameplay? Sandbox? What are you waiting for, Hilmar to come and give you permission, sell you a licence?
Bitcoin :) but hey, unless you got a rack of FPGA's forget bitcoin lol GPU's suck at bitcoin now.
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Bill Pitt
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Posted - 2011.06.26 12:02:00 -
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Parley - a discussion or conference, especially one between enemies over terms of a truce or other matters.
So where is it then, more than 24 hours of silence does not equal Parley. I'm sure they are sitting somewhere wondering why more people are protesting, but if they can't follow through on this offer, what do you expect?
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Cutter Isaacson
Minmatar Fearsome Engine
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Posted - 2011.06.26 12:03:00 -
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Originally by: Cutter Isaacson CCP, are you paying attention?
The Escapist PC Gamer Massively N4G GiantBomb Slashdot EdgeGamers PS3Trophies Slashdot Lokkazad Honsou Gaming
Getting the picture yet?
Originally by: Urban Dictionary Bro we just got monocled by CCP
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Miilla
Minmatar Hulkageddon Orphanage
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Posted - 2011.06.26 12:04:00 -
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Originally by: The Middle Man
Originally by: Miilla Edited by: Miilla on 26/06/2011 11:57:36
Well I already have 42 PLEX; thats money in the bank for CCP already, may aswell screw their NEX stats and buy monocles :)
That will help put the nail in the coffin, or I could wait for GOLDEN AMMO, then buy 20 billion worth of it :)
Oh and if they ask what NEX items we want, oh yeah, I want lots of game changing stuffz :)
May aswell send them on a wild goose chase.
Anything to speed this trainwreck along :)
Inject them all so they are no longer in the market and can't be used in the aurum store. Maybe get banned as well with the account they were injected on to show they are wasted. Refuse to give anything to what they expect to be their new cash crop.
Down side of that is all the stockpiled PLEX get taken out of the game and thus new playuers have to spend more money.. which is win for CCP, BUT players will get sick of it as it costs them an arm and a leg over time. They quit, but its a revolving door mugging business now.
Probably the best is to let them sit on the market at maximum time for 90 days at DOUBLE THE PRICE. screw the plex market
Well either way its pretty hard to do anthing with em that goes against CCP, unless we just let em sit in hangers. as financial liabilities.
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happi bunni
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Posted - 2011.06.26 12:05:00 -
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Originally by: Brother Pullo
Originally by: San Severina Still being ignored after over 10k posts.
Awesome job CCP
At first I honestly thought that we didn't get a reply because everyone at CCP was in emergency meetings to fix the situation.
By now it is my firm belief that the non-information is official CCP policy. "Let them rant on the forums for a couple of days, than start posting half-arsed statements mixing truth and lies as usual, but we won't change a thing about our plans. So what if 10.000 hardcore fans leave our game, the new players coming to Eve with Incarna/Ambulation will easily make up for the loss. And those new guys will love to buy items for Aurum to give them advantages."
u really think they care ??? :(
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