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jackaloped	Posted - 2011.06.28 16:33:00 - [12661] Originally by: Kailithi CSM discussing us not agreeing to MT with CCP :
Tethys Atreides The Audacity of Huge	Posted - 2011.06.28 16:37:00 - [12662] Ahem... COOs statement.
Miilla Minmatar Hulkageddon Orphanage	Posted - 2011.06.28 16:38:00 - [12663] Originally by: Adunh Slavy Originally by: Miilla They got into this situation by being GREEDY, I really don't care if they burn or not. PS: I'm voting YES on every game changing NEX item there is :) Hope you enjoy your paywall. I love surveys, glad the CSM chose to do one, I can keep making accounts to skew them in the PAYWALL favour :) Why would you do that? Fun.
Miilla Minmatar Hulkageddon Orphanage	Posted - 2011.06.28 16:44:00 - [12664] Edited by: Miilla on 28/06/2011 16:45:38 Originally by: Tethys Atreides Ahem... COOs statement. They refuse still to change their statemetn to the effect you cannot BUY AN ADVANTAGE. He only says you cannot buy VICTORY, but does not rule out buying an ADVANTAGE. He also states, he belives not many people will leave over this. Still pompous. No change. In other words, it is game changing but not game dominating Microtransactions.
Arrs Grazznic Poena Executive Solutions	Posted - 2011.06.28 16:44:00 - [12665] Originally by: Tethys Atreides Ahem... COOs statement. More fuel for the fire: Quote: The third issue that has a lot of anger olli= players is that they require management to certify that the CCP will not be able to buy practical things, "functional" with money in the future, so people will be able to buy a victory. John says that the games production as CCP can not bring such a statement, but asserts that it will never be able to buy a victory in EVE Online, designed to be both.
Joachim Vaug	Posted - 2011.06.28 16:49:00 - [12666] Originally by: Arrs Grazznic More fuel for the fire: Quote: The third issue that has a lot of anger olli= players is that they require management to certify that the CCP will not be able to buy practical things, "functional" with money in the future, so people will be able to buy a victory. John says that the games production as CCP can not bring such a statement, but asserts that it will never be able to buy a victory in EVE Online, designed to be both. It's amazing how many sides of their face they can talk out of...
Skex Relbore Gallente Red Federation RvB - RED Federation	Posted - 2011.06.28 16:51:00 - [12667] Originally by: Tethys Atreides Ahem... COOs statement. I wish someone could actually manually translate that I'm still trying to figure out some of what was said there.
Lord Timelord GETCO Waterboard	Posted - 2011.06.28 16:51:00 - [12668] Originally by: Arrs Grazznic Originally by: Tethys Atreides Ahem... COOs statement. More fuel for the fire: Quote: The third issue that has a lot of anger olli= players is that they require management to certify that the CCP will not be able to buy practical things, "functional" with money in the future, so people will be able to buy a victory. John says that the games production as CCP can not bring such a statement, but asserts that it will never be able to buy a victory in EVE Online, designed to be both. It truly amazes me the amount of EPIC FAIL that these CCP guys are spewing out!
Miilla Minmatar Hulkageddon Orphanage	Posted - 2011.06.28 16:52:00 - [12669] Edited by: Miilla on 28/06/2011 16:52:07 Originally by: Skex Relbore Originally by: Tethys Atreides Ahem... COOs statement. I wish someone could actually manually translate that I'm still trying to figure out some of what was said there. For the thinking impaired... They refuse still to change their statemetn to the effect you cannot BUY AN ADVANTAGE. He only says you cannot buy VICTORY, but does not rule out buying an ADVANTAGE. He also states, he belives not many people will leave over this. Still pompous. No change. In other words, it is game changing but not game dominating Microtransactions.
Zen Sins	Posted - 2011.06.28 16:54:00 - [12670] I would like to see the CSM, through Mittani, lay out a clear set of stated goals from this trip. Some suggestions: 1) Revocation of the NDA. They apparently don't tell the CSM **** anyway, so, what's the need for it? Revoking it would at least help restore some impression of transparency in the process. 2) A clear and firm promise from Hilgar that "gold ammo" aka performance enhancing items for AUR or real dollars in any form were PERMANENTLY off the table, once and for all. We're all tired of his BS and wiggle-room. 3) As an alternative to 2, a full disclosure of their plans for AUR, "gold ammo", and micro-transactions and a commitment to keep us informed of any changes in these plans as soon as they are firm. As stated many times, the biggest problem with our current situation is the loss of trust and transparency.
Teako	Posted - 2011.06.28 16:57:00 - [12671] LOL, nice read of the COO. Enjoy the bankruptcy ÇÇP. You deserve it fully!
Miilla Minmatar Hulkageddon Orphanage	Posted - 2011.06.28 16:58:00 - [12672] Edited by: Miilla on 28/06/2011 17:00:03 Originally by: Zen Sins I would like to see the CSM, through Mittani, lay out a clear set of stated goals from this trip. Some suggestions: 1) Revocation of the NDA. They apparently don't tell the CSM **** anyway, so, what's the need for it? Revoking it would at least help restore some impression of transparency in the process. 2) A clear and firm promise from Hilgar that "gold ammo" aka performance enhancing items for AUR or real dollars in any form were PERMANENTLY off the table, once and for all. We're all tired of his BS and wiggle-room. 3) As an alternative to 2, a full disclosure of their plans for AUR, "gold ammo", and micro-transactions and a commitment to keep us informed of any changes in these plans as soon as they are firm. As stated many times, the biggest problem with our current situation is the loss of trust and transparency. Keep dreaming fool. It is their plan, you ride it or don't. That has been communicated CLEARLY in ALL communication channels. He also stated yet again, they do not believe many will leave over it, until that situation changes, you have no questions that need answering. Short version: you are in no position to demand anything.
Tugrath Akers	Posted - 2011.06.28 17:00:00 - [12673] And people will still be holding their breath that somehow this will change. You've been given subtle hints, large lines to read between, and clubbed in the head with an aurum bat. What will be sold in the cash shop is limitless no matter what the forum warriors want.
Miilla Minmatar Hulkageddon Orphanage	Posted - 2011.06.28 17:02:00 - [12674] Between now and october 28th, let them BURN
caldar ian Final Destination.	Posted - 2011.06.28 17:06:00 - [12675] time's are hard and we are seeing it now with ccp more politician the games developer all this is doing is giving the community time to cool down before they tell us the truth. and the truth is they want to milk us like moo cows for money.
Skex Relbore Gallente Red Federation RvB - RED Federation	Posted - 2011.06.28 17:08:00 - [12676] Originally by: Miilla Edited by: Miilla on 28/06/2011 16:52:07 Originally by: Skex Relbore Originally by: Tethys Atreides Ahem... COOs statement. I wish someone could actually manually translate that I'm still trying to figure out some of what was said there. For the thinking impaired... They refuse still to change their statemetn to the effect you cannot BUY AN ADVANTAGE. He only says you cannot buy VICTORY, but does not rule out buying an ADVANTAGE. He also states, he belives not many people will leave over this. Still pompous. No change. In other words, it is game changing but not game dominating Microtransactions. Then the only answer is to stay the course. Also if you oppose the MT path cancel your subs already. get your friends to cancel their subs the more subs are canceled the more leverage the CSM will actually have.
Zen Sins	Posted - 2011.06.28 17:09:00 - [12677] Edited by: Zen Sins on 28/06/2011 17:09:32 Originally by: Miilla Short version: you are in no position to demand anything. I realize that the CSM's bargaining position is weak. However, they ARE flying to Iceland and they WILL be talking to CCP. Without clearly stated goals for the CSM, there is no way to quantify any form of "success" from that meeting. I'd like to hear what those goals are, if there are any. If that makes me a fool in your eyes, then so be it. Add that to the long list of ** I don't give a ** about.
Benri Konpaku	Posted - 2011.06.28 17:11:00 - [12678] Originally by: caldar ian time's are hard and we are seeing it now with ccp more politician the games developer all this is doing is giving the community time to cool down before they tell us the truth. and the truth is they want to milk us like moo cows for money. If that is indeed the case (oh who am I kidding, it is) they are going to need very convincing arguments to make guys like me resub and to keep the guys waiting for the meeting before deciding whether to cancel or not. Which is one of the reasons I want them to broadcast the meeting live, alliance tournament style.
Adunh Slavy	Posted - 2011.06.28 17:12:00 - [12679] Originally by: Skex Relbore Originally by: Tethys Atreides Ahem... COOs statement. I wish someone could actually manually translate that I'm still trying to figure out some of what was said there. Yeah, translation is taking forever, and all a mess of phrasing is the result. My faith in CCP will return SoonÖ We'll watch what you do not what you say.
Kye Do'lan Gallente Order of the Domain The Polaris Syndicate	Posted - 2011.06.28 17:12:00 - [12680] Originally by: Azelor Delaria If this was truly a request for parley like the title says, this thread would be stickied so people don't have to bump it from page 2. This...
caldar ian Final Destination.	Posted - 2011.06.28 17:15:00 - [12681] Originally by: Kye Do'lan Originally by: Azelor Delaria If this was truly a request for parley like the title says, this thread would be stickied so people don't have to bump it from page 2. This... true no sticky ? maybe it will all go away like a bad dream, and ccp can wake up in lala land where money does grow on trees --------------------------------- Bio: Incarna burnt my motherboard and cpu out : (
Miilla Minmatar Hulkageddon Orphanage	Posted - 2011.06.28 17:15:00 - [12682] Edited by: Miilla on 28/06/2011 17:15:10 G A M E O V E R
Astir Zekor	Posted - 2011.06.28 17:15:00 - [12683] moooomoomoooomoo moooomoomoooomoo moomoooomoooomoo moomoo moomoomoo moooomoooo moomoo moomoooomoomoo moooomoomoooo moomoo moooomoo moooomoooomoo moomoomoooo moomoomoo moooomoomoo moomoooomoo moooomoomoooomoooo
Tatiana Nixx	Posted - 2011.06.28 17:17:00 - [12684] They want to "Monitize" the game to make more profit. They have blatently lied to us they were NOT doing something, while in fact they had the whole company working on doing the opposite before/during/after they even told that lie. I could go on, but I'm sure after a couple hundred pages of this threadnought, the facts speak for themselves. EvE Online is, no wait.. was my favorite game. The best online freinds I've ever had, are in my corp/alliance. I was ready, and actually set in place my exit from EvE by canx'ing my accounts. This has left me several days to ponder on my next game, to do research on an EvE substitute. I found one, I think. It runs almost the same as EvE 'of old. It's run by a morally corrupt lot though. A bunch of liars and cheats. The "New" game I found is already installed on my computer. It's called "EvE Online". Ya, I know... How can you say your quitting EvE Online, if your going to continue playing EvE Online? Well here is the logic. I am not going to give CCP another dime. I will play with plex for as long as they allow that. As far as I'm concerned, EvE 'of old is dead, and re-animated as a "living dead" version, run by the morally corupt and liars. It will never be the same, but it is it's own best replacement. I just have to come to terms with this, and that it will never will be the same. My loyalty to CCP is dead. My trust with CCP is dead. My future monitary support of CCP is... wait for it.... wait for it... DEAD! Great job on killing EvE Online CCP. I'm still looking at other games. Saving the money you would have gotten from me, to buy it, and fund it in the future. I'm just not ready to walk away from my freinds, but as they become disillusioned, and walk away, there will be nothing left to keep me here.
Graava	Posted - 2011.06.28 17:18:00 - [12685] Originally by: Miilla They refuse still to change their statemetn to the effect you cannot BUY AN ADVANTAGE. He only says you cannot buy VICTORY, but does not rule out buying an ADVANTAGE. He also states, he belives not many people will leave over this. Still pompous. No change. In other words, it is game changing but not game dominating Microtransactions. Been a bit quiet in here today, maybe everyone is looking for the alternatives, I certainly have and I have voted with my wallet, 1 paying sub to Perpetuum, hopefully they will get enough subs to upgrade the servers and get rid of the lag from doubling their users over the past few days.
Zen Sins	Posted - 2011.06.28 17:19:00 - [12686] Originally by: Miilla Edited by: Miilla on 28/06/2011 17:15:10 G A M E O V E R Oh knock it off, Hudson.
Skex Relbore Gallente Red Federation RvB - RED Federation	Posted - 2011.06.28 17:20:00 - [12687] CCP offices October 2012
Benri Konpaku	Posted - 2011.06.28 17:22:00 - [12688] Edited by: Benri Konpaku on 28/06/2011 17:22:09 Originally by: Skex Relbore CCP offices October 2012 Failed Dust cosplay event ftw.
Emissary Apollo	Posted - 2011.06.28 17:22:00 - [12689] Back off the ledge guys! Eve online is a great "Game"! We're supposed to be having fun here, remember!? If you're raging this much, you need to check your priorities. Why are you trying to burn down your own house! What are you hoping to gain...o.k you succeed and CCP goes under...great job! Eve is a game (that I love!!) and CCP is a business. People need to embrace the reality of those two things! They've got to grow to survive and I think Incarna and MT (Heavy on the micro!) will help. But that me.. EA
Dzil Caldari Caldari Independent Navy Reserve The Fourth District	Posted - 2011.06.28 17:26:00 - [12690] My point of view: 1. What was released as Incarna is clunky, under featured and overtaxing on many computers. It would have been received with disappointment regardless of the cash shop. But... 2. It feels like CCP is double dipping between subscription fees and cash shop exclusives. 3. The deployment of "gold ammo" would be a detrimental and unforgiving blow to EVE's virtual economy. The entire setup of T2 and future T3 production seems utterly pointless if it is to be outperformed by cash-shop items. Retired from corp sales. Time to spend some of this on pretty explosions :)

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