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The Zerg Overmind
Rule Reversal
Dec Shield
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Posted - 2012.09.22 22:08:00 -
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Dec Shield is back once again to abuse wardec mechanics to inflict grief upon your enemies.
The Plan:
Due to current wardec mechanics, if a defending corp sets the war mutual, the aggressing corp CANNOT retract the war without the defender agreeing to it. This means the defender can permanently trap the aggressing corp into a war. This will allow corporations to join Dec Shield, then we absorb your wars, we set the wars to mutual, and then you leave alliance. In this way Dec Shield will gain infinite length wars against every aggressive corp in highsec. We will then take on pvp corps that will murder the people who hunted your corp. The hunters will become the prey.
How to permanently burn your enemy's corp:
1.) Apply to join "Dec Shield" with your corporation.
2.) I accept your application
3.) 24-25hrs later your corp is in the alliance
4.) I set your wars mutual and boot you from the alliance
5.) You set your absorbed wars to non-mutual so our victims have to pay if they're not paying attention
6.) The aggressing corp is turned into a whining victim
Notes:
This is a completely free service as always. I promise nothing about protecting your corp or helping you escape your aggressors. The only goal here is to render their corporation trapped in a permanent war so they can be hunted forever. If you want to burn your enemy's corp then join Dec Shield.
FAQ:
- Only corporations with no outgoing wardecs may apply to join an alliance.
- To join an allliance, the CEO must go to Corporation -> Alliances -> Rankings -> Show All -> Find "Dec Shield" -> Right click, apply to join
- If you're a pvp corp looking to grief the lowest form of life in highsec please email me and we'll discuss permanent applications
Free Wardec Removal |
Surfin's PlunderBunny
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
2279
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Posted - 2012.09.22 22:11:00 -
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I approve of this service and/or idea
"A genius throws a Molotov cocktail and soon realizes that he's going to die choking in a maze of smoke and flame. A hero drinks a Molotov cocktail and soon realizes that if he does a split in midair, he can hit twice as many zombies per kick. Drunk hero wins again, wusses." ~Cracked.com |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
1507
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Posted - 2012.09.22 22:36:00 -
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I cannot help but applaud the way you make "creative" use of the highsec wardec mechanics. Keep it up!
Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd
Click for old school EVE Portraits: http://jadeconstantine.web44.net/Maison.htm |
Bienator II
madmen of the skies
901
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Posted - 2012.09.22 23:13:00 -
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don't call it dec shield. call it "its a trap" or "ackbar foundation"
a eve-style bounty system https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=359105
You fail you fail you fail you fail you fail you fail you fail to jump because you are cloaked |
Garven Dreis
Kicking Smurfs
The Marmite Collective
72
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Posted - 2012.09.23 00:00:00 -
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Amazing work, as always!
In Manticore we Trust |
The Zerg Overmind
Rule Reversal
Dec Shield
159
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Posted - 2012.09.23 00:26:00 -
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Bienator II wrote:don't call it dec shield. call it "its a trap" or "ackbar foundation"
lol good names, but Dec Shield is what we have, notorious and evil. We've just acquired our first war with a sov holding nullsec alliance. I'm sure they'll be most displeased tomorrow when they learn that they're permanently screwed. The tears of our enemies will sustain us.
By the time we're through with the game, the act of declaring war will be so hideous and unthinkable that wardecs will stop entirely. CCP will once again be forced to change wardec mechanics to stop us. Start the countdown.
Burn Highsec Griefers |
Herping yourDerp
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
769
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Posted - 2012.09.23 06:44:00 -
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hope they never fix this. highsec wars have always been BS and dec shield is the best shield. |
Iam Widdershins
Project Nemesis
728
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Posted - 2012.09.23 08:10:00 -
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Everyone, highsec PVPers and CCP alike, has been aware for some time that the current mechanics surrounding allies, joining/leaving alliances, and the defender's freedom to toggle the "make mutual" mechanic at will are in sore need of reform. Nobody's expecting this to go on for very much longer I'm sure.
Highsec wars will always exist, but good for you in finding yet another broken element of CCP's latest revision of the rules and mechanics.
Lobbying for your right to delete your signature |
Nerath Naaris
Pink Winged Unicorns for Peace Love and Anarchy
162
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Posted - 2012.09.23 08:15:00 -
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I find your lack of profit disturbing, though. 
Forum-unbanned since 2011.10.20. |
Eugene Kerner
TunDraGon
124
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Posted - 2012.09.23 08:50:00 -
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You are a great help for all the small corps out there! Keep it up! |
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Pipa Porto
995
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Posted - 2012.09.23 09:11:00 -
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Herping yourDerp wrote:hope they never fix this. highsec wars have always been BS and dec shield is the best shield.
This solves the opposite problem than the one Wardecs actually have (namely, the ease by which defenders can escape*).
But it amuses me, so I approve wholeheartedly.
*Especially since WarDecs are now officially "paying for targets," those targets ability to freely disband and reform their corp is a significant problem.
EvE: Everyone vs Everyone
-RubyPorto |
Iam Widdershins
Project Nemesis
729
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Posted - 2012.09.23 11:18:00 -
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Pipa Porto wrote:Herping yourDerp wrote:hope they never fix this. highsec wars have always been BS and dec shield is the best shield. This solves the opposite problem than the one Wardecs actually have (namely, the ease by which defenders can escape*). But it amuses me, so I approve wholeheartedly. *Especially since WarDecs are now officially "paying for targets," those targets ability to freely disband and reform their corp is a significant problem.
And that's only scratching the surface of the horrible shenanigans that can occur when things really get down to business.
Lobbying for your right to delete your signature |
Reppyk
The Black Shell
176
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Posted - 2012.09.23 18:38:00 -
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The Zerg Overmind wrote: We've just acquired our first war with a sov holding nullsec alliance. Who ? I tried to find it but the interface is unreadable.
You may want to update the alliance description btw.
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Vaju Enki
Secular Wisdom
208
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Posted - 2012.09.23 20:23:00 -
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Hope they fix this soon.
If you want instant gratification, go stimulate your genitals. EvE is Hard, deal with it. |
Piugattuk
CLOROFLORFILAPLANKTONPLATES
61
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Posted - 2012.09.23 21:06:00 -
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 forever dec'ed!!! Holy Veldspar! |
bufnitza calatoare
Snap Crackle Pop.
AAA Citizens
0
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Posted - 2012.09.24 04:24:00 -
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oh thast easy to get around.
once you boot the "wardecced" corp from alliance they cannot rejoin for a week .
so redec the corp. and collect easy kills from dec shield like before.
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Pipa Porto
1004
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Posted - 2012.09.24 04:31:00 -
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bufnitza calatoare wrote:oh thast easy to get around.
once you boot the "wardecced" corp from alliance they cannot rejoin for a week .
so redec the corp. and collect easy kills from dec shield like before.
You might consider reading the OP before pooh-poohing it.
DecShield 2.0 isn't about shedding decs, it's about trapping the attacker into a permadec with the Alliance and the various PvP people who might join it.
EvE: Everyone vs Everyone
-RubyPorto |
Kalel Nimrott
EG CORP
Talocan United
54
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Posted - 2012.09.24 05:19:00 -
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This is so devious... |
Karimson Safehold
EVE University
Ivy League
0
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Posted - 2012.09.24 09:03:00 -
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This is more like a Dec Spear than a shield.
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bufnitza calatoare
Snap Crackle Pop.
AAA Citizens
1
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Posted - 2012.09.24 10:01:00 -
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Pipa Porto wrote:bufnitza calatoare wrote:oh thast easy to get around.
once you boot the "wardecced" corp from alliance they cannot rejoin for a week .
so redec the corp. and collect easy kills from dec shield like before. You might consider reading the OP before pooh-poohing it. DecShield 2.0 isn't about shedding decs, it's about trapping the attacker into a permadec with the Alliance and the various PvP people who might join it.
yeah and??? mutal war decs are free.
I know of a few corps that got some phat kills from dec shield b4 ccp "changed" how war decs work.
end of the day any good pvp corp will redec that corp that left your alliance so will bad ones lol.. |
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Tora Bushido
EVE Corporation 987654321-POP
The Marmite Collective
78
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Posted - 2012.09.24 10:02:00 -
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Unless you have enough players inside dec shield it will be useless. The number of merc alliances, griefers, one corps, etc etc etc are way bigger in numbers then the guys who will be inside decshield.
So good idea, cuz its shows the dec mechanism fails. But be careful who you 'trap' 
My resists to bad posts are 78-89-83-90 ....... The metal head plate increased it by 5%.
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Iam Widdershins
Project Nemesis
732
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Posted - 2012.09.24 10:53:00 -
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Kalel Nimrott wrote:This is so devious...
No, it really isn't. I've considered doing this for a while but don't really have the time nor the visibility to make anything out of it.
Lobbying for your right to delete your signature |
Vladimir Norkoff
Income Redistribution Service
56
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Posted - 2012.09.24 11:11:00 -
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Lovely... Best part is, this tactic was brought up when CCP was asking for pre-implementation feedback. Working as intended.
Almost makes the Crimewatch ideas palatable. At least that only lasts for 15 minutes.... Maybe... maybe they planned it this way all along.... *tinfoil hat* |
Ristlin Wakefield
Wanderers of the Eternal Darkness
Eternal Pretorian Alliance
96
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Posted - 2012.09.24 13:56:00 -
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Iam Widdershins wrote:Kalel Nimrott wrote:This is so devious... No, it really isn't. I've considered doing this for a while but don't really have the time nor the visibility to make anything out of it.
I considered doing this since last year!
I have a lover, her name is EVE. I see her every night and all she asks in return is that I have a pilot's license. |
Jessa Leone
Perkone
Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2012.09.24 16:42:00 -
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Now what happens to the corps once they drop from Dec Shield. Do they now get a copy of all mutual wars against dec shield? |
Anya Klibor
Gods Asunder
Those Bloody Red Bastards
139
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Posted - 2012.09.24 16:52:00 -
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Jessa Leone wrote:Now what happens to the corps once they drop from Dec Shield. Do they now get a copy of all mutual wars against dec shield?
Yes, they do. All wars transfer also to the corporation that leaves the alliance, and remain active until the war runs it's natural duration, at which time the corporation/alliance that has initiated conflict can decide to pay the upkeep fee for 50,000,000 ISK instead of whatever it would normally be. We've used this previously to continue wars, and we'd like to thank alliances for keeping it going for us!
(Note: I don't know if making it mutual will do anything.) |
The Zerg Overmind
Rule Reversal
Dec Shield
179
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Posted - 2012.09.24 21:37:00 -
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Iam Widdershins wrote:
No, it really isn't. I've considered doing this for a while but don't really have the time nor the visibility to make anything out of it.
Ristlin Wakefield wrote:I considered doing this since last year!
You are both welcome to join Dec Shield at your leisure to siphon off our wars and bring them back to your own corps/alliances. Since you can get exact copies of our wars, we can continue to spread these wars between countless entities in the game, never allowing any to escape.
Last night we trapped C0VEN alliance into a permanent wardec from which they'll never escape. We also had 'Bridgeburnners' disband to avoid being permanently trapped. They reformed into Rock Hard Innovations, when they start another war we'll have them again. We're also getting continuous surrender offers from VR Corp, P I R A T, Die Wildgaense, etc etc. I've been deleting notifications because there are too many. The tears must flow.
Burn Highsec Griefers |
Iam Widdershins
Project Nemesis
732
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Posted - 2012.09.24 21:54:00 -
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Meh, we're more likely to end up at war with you guys. It's not going to be a huge difference either way tbh. We joined DS last time around and didn't see jack **** for like 3 weeks.
Lobbying for your right to delete your signature |
The Zerg Overmind
Rule Reversal
Dec Shield
179
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Posted - 2012.09.24 21:57:00 -
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Ya, a lot of our current wars have stagnated, or people transferred out of the corps. It'll probably be a few weeks before we pick up enough live wardecs to present targets. But you're right, you'll probably get sucked into a permawar with us sooner or later. Right now we're sitting at 58 wars, with another 4-5 in the next 24hrs.
Burn Highsec Griefers |
jimmyjam
Deadspace Exploration Conglomerate
Clockwork Pineapple
61
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Posted - 2012.09.25 00:02:00 -
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The Zerg Overmind wrote:Ya, a lot of our current wars have stagnated, or people transferred out of the corps. It'll probably be a few weeks before we pick up enough live wardecs to present targets. But you're right, you'll probably get sucked into a permawar with us sooner or later. Right now we're sitting at 58 wars, with another 4-5 in the next 24hrs.
What,s the point the if everyone just bails out when the realize the permanence of the dec. |
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