It's over now. CCP stealth fixed the third method today with the patch:

"Wars that are now made mutual will always be able to be retracted by the aggressor, even if the war is made non-mutual."

http://community.eveonline.com/updates/patchnotes.asp



Update: We're testing this. There is no evidence that this is working as advertised.

It's over now. CCP stealth fixed the third method today with the patch:

"Wars that are now made mutual will always be able to be retracted by the aggressor, even if the war is made non-mutual."

http://community.eveonline.com/updates/patchnotes.asp



Update: We're testing this. There is no evidence that this is working as advertised.

My test assumed that this is post patch mutual settings only, presuming that a "previously mutual" flag wasn't being stored until now. So, if it was done right, Dec Shield wars should still be ending one way or another soon.

Not sure if a corporation that drops out from an alliance that once had the war mutual carries the flag though. Might be able to use that carry it further? I'm too tired to think this part through properly.

These were exactly my thoughts on how to proceed. But I'm pretty sure that it won't work. I'm not sure why the patch isn't setting everyone free right now. Some people do seem to be escaping though

What happened in the last week, that the bills for the wars were cancelled before Dec 4th which created new bills for a 7 day war. Additionally after the Retribution release, this could also happen. So bills were cancelled again, and this was resolved yesterday. This created new 7 day ways for everyone from Dec 11th.
This is the last week. The bills cannot be cancelled and created again, resulting in another 7 day war.
If a war is made mutual and then non mutual, you will always have the option to retract the war, from then on out.
If a corp joins an alliance, you will have a bill for just the alliance.
If a corp leaves an alliance, you will have a bill for the alliance and corp that left. Both of these bills will always carry the same status as the original bill.
If the original bill had a due date of 16th December, and had not been paid. Then both the Corp that left, and Alliance will have the same values. You would see both of them in the wallet as due on the 16th, and that have not been paid yet.

I hope this clears it up for now.

CCP should really stop "fixing" wars. If you declare war on somebody, you should be taking a risk. You should be GUARANTEED at least a week of fighting against whoever they call in. None of this "LOL I declared war on you but I'm getting owned so I'm just going to withdraw instantly" bullcrap.

People run all the time in EVE, why not run away from wars too?

People run all the time in EVE, why not run away from wars too?

Bro, you're truly a moron if you believe CCP is able to fix the BS code they try and write. This isn't fixed. If anything, they probably made it worse.

Who pays the bills? And why do I never see any WTs?

Who pays the bills? And why do I never see any WTs?

Probably because you're in an NPC corp. They don't have wars.

Ooh good point.
That might just be her main.

Also what will you do now that people no longer require proxies to deal with Dec Shield?
Just dec all the corps anyways?

Ooh good point.
That might just be her main.

Also what will you do now that people no longer require proxies to deal with Dec Shield?
Just dec all the corps anyways?

Yes there is still a bug in the Warmechanic. If the defender set the war mutual, the attacker must wait until the next downtime to retract the mutual war.

Yes there is still a bug in the Warmechanic. If the defender set the war mutual, the attacker must wait until the next downtime to retract the mutual war.