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Gary Bell
Hard Knocks Inc.
22
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Posted - 2012.12.09 12:38:00 -
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Raesha Nardieu wrote:The Zerg Overmind wrote:Everything Tolene said is true, and I agree with you. We will try to get the matter resolved asap. In the mean time I just needed victims to point to and say "Look, your game mechanics are allowing me to do completely unfair things to these people". CCP responds faster when they have public pressure on them to perform. You say you want to end high sec griefing yet in the case of my alliance *YOU* are the griefers...how are you trying to get matters resolved when you are snide and unresponsive to all attempts at diplomacy? We are a mining/indy alliance, do *NOT* actively war dec and do not promote behaviour that could bring wars upon us as everyone knows highsec wars are senseless. The *only* time we dec is to even the playing field against groups that dec us (which if you had bothered to check the history has only happend twice). I also happen to know we are not the only carebears you have in your current dec list while your own mission statement clearly states you *ONLY* target pirate/merc/griefer corps & alliances which would imply that you do a bit of research and are selective with the targets you choose. The truth is you're not, your goal is to have as many active eternal wars as possible and to continue to use exploits as your manner to have fun in the game just like any other griefer corp/alliance. At least true merc/griefer corps are honest in what they do... and honesty I can respect... what you do, I cannot respect. Our griefers came to you when they got caught with their breeches down and you took them in and continued the griefing of us for the past month. You go against yourself by saying you wish to bring attention to the broken mechanics and end highsec griefing yet you are guilty of the same thing you are so-called trying to stop and paint yourself here as being a sort of Robin Hood when you're no better than the thugs you protect. I dont support what you are doing because it sounds noble on paper but being the true moralfag I am, when you dont do your research and target indy corps/alliances that are already being griefed, you lose any support you would have had from me and others like me. What good does it do for the whole of EvE and it's community to run off the new players before they even have a chance to start loving the game? Thats what happens when you target groups like my alliance. And my apologies for sounding like a whiny little wench... I just wished to point out Dec Shield are not and have not been acting as admirably and honourably as they would like all of you here to believe and are actually griefers themselves that are further contributing to the rising ship and mineral costs by not allowing carebears to get out and seed our markets.
Tears... NOM NOM NOM... Stop Mining and start PEWing .. its way less lame
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Raesha Nardieu
The Soul Society Pax Romana Alliance
1
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Posted - 2012.12.09 12:45:00 -
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Gary Bell wrote:Raesha Nardieu wrote:The Zerg Overmind wrote:Everything Tolene said is true, and I agree with you. We will try to get the matter resolved asap. In the mean time I just needed victims to point to and say "Look, your game mechanics are allowing me to do completely unfair things to these people". CCP responds faster when they have public pressure on them to perform. You say you want to end high sec griefing yet in the case of my alliance *YOU* are the griefers...how are you trying to get matters resolved when you are snide and unresponsive to all attempts at diplomacy? We are a mining/indy alliance, do *NOT* actively war dec and do not promote behaviour that could bring wars upon us as everyone knows highsec wars are senseless. The *only* time we dec is to even the playing field against groups that dec us (which if you had bothered to check the history has only happend twice). I also happen to know we are not the only carebears you have in your current dec list while your own mission statement clearly states you *ONLY* target pirate/merc/griefer corps & alliances which would imply that you do a bit of research and are selective with the targets you choose. The truth is you're not, your goal is to have as many active eternal wars as possible and to continue to use exploits as your manner to have fun in the game just like any other griefer corp/alliance. At least true merc/griefer corps are honest in what they do... and honesty I can respect... what you do, I cannot respect. Our griefers came to you when they got caught with their breeches down and you took them in and continued the griefing of us for the past month. You go against yourself by saying you wish to bring attention to the broken mechanics and end highsec griefing yet you are guilty of the same thing you are so-called trying to stop and paint yourself here as being a sort of Robin Hood when you're no better than the thugs you protect. I dont support what you are doing because it sounds noble on paper but being the true moralfag I am, when you dont do your research and target indy corps/alliances that are already being griefed, you lose any support you would have had from me and others like me. What good does it do for the whole of EvE and it's community to run off the new players before they even have a chance to start loving the game? Thats what happens when you target groups like my alliance. And my apologies for sounding like a whiny little wench... I just wished to point out Dec Shield are not and have not been acting as admirably and honourably as they would like all of you here to believe and are actually griefers themselves that are further contributing to the rising ship and mineral costs by not allowing carebears to get out and seed our markets. Tears... NOM NOM NOM... Stop Mining and start PEWing .. its way less lame
No tears from me mate, just stating fact and calling a spade a spade... I guess you think those shiny ships you like to fly to pewpew in are magically created out of thin air... you should learn pewpew & carebearing are a symbiotic relationship. Without us carebears mining and building ships you wouldnt have anything to fly or to blow up. |
FireusI
Famz Corp.
7
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Posted - 2012.12.09 12:57:00 -
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I total agree with you Raesha Nardieu if it was not for us miners eve would be DEAD cuz no one would have any thing to fly or buying.
As for PVP done it got board of it lived in null got borad of that too
As for mining love it made good friends while doing this built loads of stuff in eve and sold it to PVP'ers
So i see a circle here miners mine builders build sellers sale pvper pvp
so if u dont have the 1st in the list what u going to be flying or killing
So what the hell u going to fly or blow up
ur own captain quaters or ur own pc
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Mara Tessidar
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
681
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Posted - 2012.12.09 13:11:00 -
[484] - Quote
FireusI wrote:I total agree with you Raesha Nardieu if it was not for us miners eve would be DEAD cuz no one would have any thing to fly or buying.
As for PVP done it got board of it lived in null got borad of that too
As for mining love it made good friends while doing this built loads of stuff in eve and sold it to PVP'ers
So i see a circle here miners mine builders build sellers sale pvper pvp
so if u dont have the 1st in the list what u going to be flying or killing
So what the hell u going to fly or blow up
ur own captain quaters or ur own pc
You are dumb EveO is a circus train that is for bafflingly unclear reasons also carrying tanks of chlorine gas,-ácrashing and exploding in the middle of a small midwestern town. -áCalling it a mere train wreck gives neither the entertainment nor the horror it offers its proper due. |
Isana Tori
Booty chasers
8
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Posted - 2012.12.09 14:12:00 -
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How do all these people suggest bringing war dec problems to light without having actual cases to point to? You don't think it's odd that once the numbers began to rise and major players in Eve were caught that this was fixed? For all the complaining about Dec Shield, he actually did get the wars fixed (mostly), which if you look at the very first post, was his goal all along.
I do find it funny that all the people here complaining about him are forgetting one thing: they declared war on someone to get trapped. This was not a case of some poor defenseless carebear having Dec Shield run up on them. Yes, eve RvB went out of its way to dec someone else in a system they really should have known was bugged.
I also laugh at the different replies from people. Carebears are convinced the sky is falling and "elite pvpers" haven't even noticed so they say. It's almost like a default response from these people in any situation.
Hopefully more and more war dec bugs go away and we can move on to other problems to fix and maybe we'll all get trapped in that too!
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NEONOVUS
Saablast Followers
59
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Posted - 2012.12.09 15:17:00 -
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Isana Tori wrote:How do all these people suggest bringing war dec problems to light without having actual cases to point to? You don't think it's odd that once the numbers began to rise and major players in Eve were caught that this was fixed? For all the complaining about Dec Shield, he actually did get the wars fixed (mostly), which if you look at the very first post, was his goal all along.
I do find it funny that all the people here complaining about him are forgetting one thing: they declared war on someone to get trapped. This was not a case of some poor defenseless carebear having Dec Shield run up on them. Yes, eve RvB went out of its way to dec someone else in a system they really should have known was bugged.
I also laugh at the different replies from people. Carebears are convinced the sky is falling and "elite pvpers" haven't even noticed so they say. It's almost like a default response from these people in any situation.
Hopefully more and more war dec bugs go away and we can move on to other problems to fix and maybe we'll all get trapped in that too!
So if I dec some one to get what seems to be a dead corp dead stick pos out, and then they run to Dec shield it is my fault?
I do agrree nemesis of Buzz lightyear accomplished his goal of getting mutual fixed. His new find may or may not work is now starting to push it. Given that as he can not talk about it, but from the time line it seems he explicity sought it out rather than going and finding it to be a natural part of the game. Sort of like how I can take down a pos without a personal war dec. Not that it works anymore due to the change in flags. Or does it, hmm need to go and test. |
Mund Richard
18
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Posted - 2012.12.09 15:17:00 -
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Isana Tori wrote:I do find it funny that all the people here complaining about him are forgetting one thing: they declared war on someone to get trapped. This was not a case of some poor defenseless carebear having Dec Shield run up on them. Yes, eve RvB went out of its way to dec someone else in a system they really should have known was bugged. Point there, true. Let's assume after a wardec declared on them, finding the agressors 1-man-corp OGB, they dec that? Agression, or evening the play field? How about if carebears wardec notorious canflippers/ninjasalvagers aiming at them when only a few are online? Agression or self-defence?
Sometimes a war started before the dec, ignoring that is... ignorance.
Then again, it can get to kindergarten levels really fast: "I did it because he did this" - "I only did this because he did that" - "That I did because this one time he..." Sarcasm can be like drugs. |
Hinsty David
I can't pronounce Bacaruda Dec Shield
0
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Posted - 2012.12.09 15:31:00 -
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NEONOVUS wrote: So if I dec some one to get what seems to be a dead corp dead stick pos out, and then they run to Dec shield it is my fault?
I do agrree nemesis of Buzz lightyear accomplished his goal of getting mutual fixed. His new find may or may not work is now starting to push it. Given that as he can not talk about it, but from the time line it seems he explicity sought it out rather than going and finding it to be a natural part of the game. Sort of like how I can take down a pos without a personal war dec. Not that it works anymore due to the change in flags. Or does it, hmm need to go and test.
Your fault? Kinda? It's a busted system, and if you want to engage in war decs in a busted system, you have to know this could happen. There were and are ways to get around getting caught in that trap and still kill the tower, it's just easier to flat out dec them.
So I wouldn't exactly lay all the blame at your feet, but as Eve is fond of telling us, actions have consequences. And in a busted system, sometimes you get pulled in. Be glad it has been mostly fixed now and the worst (mutual trapping) is now gone for the most part. |
Hinsty David
I can't pronounce Bacaruda Dec Shield
0
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Posted - 2012.12.09 15:36:00 -
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Mund Richard wrote:Isana Tori wrote:I do find it funny that all the people here complaining about him are forgetting one thing: they declared war on someone to get trapped. This was not a case of some poor defenseless carebear having Dec Shield run up on them. Yes, eve RvB went out of its way to dec someone else in a system they really should have known was bugged. Point there, true. Let's assume after a wardec declared on them, finding the agressors 1-man-corp OGB, they dec that? Agression, or evening the play field? How about if carebears wardec notorious canflippers/ninjasalvagers aiming at them when only a few are online? Agression or self-defence? Sometimes a war started before the dec, ignoring that is... ignorance. Then again, it can get to kindergarten levels really fast: "I did it because he did this" - "I only did this because he did that" - "That I did because this one time he..."
It is indeed a constant one up. When people war dec someone for ANY reasons, it's an escalation of the conflict. It's not really fair for one side to decide when the escalation is over.
One group decides to escalate by going to war, it's not unusual to suspect the other side will ratchet it up as well. If there was another step in the process (and there are) the first group would probably do that as well.
It was a "I'll call and raise" moment that the deccers didn't see coming and now want no part of but its too late. You can't back out of that hand now.
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Cannibal Kane
Praetorian Cannibals
818
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Posted - 2012.12.09 16:54:00 -
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Well...
It was only a matter of time but I finally got pulled into Dec Shield.
My Corp will now go on ice and I will create multiple corps purely to go after these guys. I'm not a Pirate, I'm a Terrorist.
The Crazy Space Poor South African.
*Hair done by LGÇÖOr+Ĵal, because I'm worth it. |
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NEONOVUS
Saablast Followers
59
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Posted - 2012.12.09 20:38:00 -
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Cannibal Kane wrote:Well...
It was only a matter of time but I finally got pulled into Dec Shield.
My Corp will now go on ice and I will create multiple corps purely to go after these guys. Wait why exactly does this harm you? I mean I will help you if you need t1 stuff run as much as I can. For everything else, use Red Frog with a 24 hour preplan for positioning.
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Hinsty David
I can't pronounce Bacaruda Dec Shield
0
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Posted - 2012.12.09 21:07:00 -
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NEONOVUS wrote:
So wait no war dec= no conflict as defined in the EULA (ignore emergent gameplay here) Thus what ever led to the need for war would go unpunished. Given that none of these defending corps have attempted to do things on their own, I would say they are using an exploit to gain an advantage now. If you were to tell me that the decced corp set it to mutual and then signed on all of nullsec through copious usage of alcahol and cash, I would say hazards of the game. But now that the corp is running away from the fight and then being told its not their fault and the other group was bullying issues arise. And saying well its a bugged system so you shouldnt use it is an example of ill thought (similar to blaming the Austrailian DJs for the nurses death when the international media declared her persona and everything else) Given that dec sheild was explicitly created to remove any threat to defenders by decoupling consequences of war from the actions precipitating I would say that it definitely should be shutdown now that its stated goal is over. Further continuance of its existence risks mission creep as it attempts to find ever more bizarre reasons to justify itself.
I think Zerg is looking to make sure there are no more exploits in the war dec system. If there is no way to trap people, then there is nothing for him to do. I'm not how he could continue or "justify itself" if the war dec bugs are gone.
If Dec Shield CAN continue with war dec mechanics issue, then it clearly isn't solved yet and the stated goal isn't over.
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NEONOVUS
Saablast Followers
59
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Posted - 2012.12.09 21:11:00 -
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The stated goal was to get mutual wars to not be a flip switch walk off thing, and about wars carrying. Both of those have been fixed. He has a possible third one that is related but doesnt talk about it since he is in dialogue with CCP on it until the 12th. So if those clear any further existence is as mentioned mission creep. |
Hinsty David
I can't pronounce Bacaruda Dec Shield
0
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Posted - 2012.12.09 21:17:00 -
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NEONOVUS wrote:The stated goal was to get mutual wars to not be a flip switch walk off thing, and about wars carrying. Both of those have been fixed. He has a possible third one that is related but doesnt talk about it since he is in dialogue with CCP on it until the 12th. So if those clear any further existence is as mentioned mission creep.
I agree with you but again I ask. Even if he WANTED to continue this.... what could he do? If all avenues of war dec griefing are closed, what are his options?
If he has options to keep using Dec Shield, they obviously didn't fix everything? |
The Zerg Overmind
Rule Reversal Dec Shield
537
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Posted - 2012.12.09 22:53:00 -
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Hinsty David wrote: I agree with you but again I ask. Even if he WANTED to continue this.... what could he do? If all avenues of war dec griefing are closed, what are his options?
If he has options to keep using Dec Shield, they obviously didn't fix everything?
If everything is fixed then we'll make the public announcements, hang up the towel, and then go dormant until we're needed again.
Raesha Nardieu wrote: You say you want to end high sec griefing yet in the case of my alliance *YOU* are the griefers...how are you trying to get matters resolved when you are snide and unresponsive to all attempts at diplomacy?
You go against yourself by saying you wish to bring attention to the broken mechanics and end highsec griefing yet you are guilty of the same thing you are so-called trying to stop and paint yourself here as being a sort of Robin Hood when you're no better than the thugs you protect.
I just wished to point out Dec Shield are not and have not been acting as admirably and honourably as they would like all of you here to believe and are actually griefers themselves that are further contributing to the rising ship and mineral costs by not allowing carebears to get out and seed our markets.
Snide and unresponsive? As far as I know I haven't received any communication from your corp until 20 minutes ago. Sending a 0isk surrender offer does not constitute communication.
I am no Ser. If you are an aggressor, you are guilty.
I hear countless sob stories from every entity without dignity. I had to make a policy to decline them all, else no one would be trapped.
Burn Highsec Griefers |
FnStrabo
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2012.12.10 03:08:00 -
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The Zerg Overmind wrote:Hinsty David wrote: I agree with you but again I ask. Even if he WANTED to continue this.... what could he do? If all avenues of war dec griefing are closed, what are his options?
If he has options to keep using Dec Shield, they obviously didn't fix everything?
If everything is fixed then we'll make the public announcements, hang up the towel, and then go dormant until we're needed again. Raesha Nardieu wrote: You say you want to end high sec griefing yet in the case of my alliance *YOU* are the griefers...how are you trying to get matters resolved when you are snide and unresponsive to all attempts at diplomacy?
You go against yourself by saying you wish to bring attention to the broken mechanics and end highsec griefing yet you are guilty of the same thing you are so-called trying to stop and paint yourself here as being a sort of Robin Hood when you're no better than the thugs you protect.
I just wished to point out Dec Shield are not and have not been acting as admirably and honourably as they would like all of you here to believe and are actually griefers themselves that are further contributing to the rising ship and mineral costs by not allowing carebears to get out and seed our markets.
Snide and unresponsive? As far as I know I haven't received any communication from your corp until 20 minutes ago. Sending a 0isk surrender offer does not constitute communication. I am no Ser. If you are an aggressor, you are guilty. I hear countless sob stories from every entity without dignity. I had to make a policy to decline them all, else no one would be trapped.
Wow! Can I call BS on this guy ^^^
Zerg, according to you, this dec shield is supposed to get the griefers and aggressors. Funny... I know a corp that started an unprovoked WD. They were found using alts in another corp to boost/rep their pvp members who started the war. The defenders War dec'd the alt corp to keep them from being able to do this without potential for reprisal.
Guess who ran to dec shield? You supported the aggressor/griefer.
Your high ideals are just a bunch of BS. Your nothing more than a griefer yourself. Get off your high horse. CCP should just Ban you for exploitation of game mechanics.
Go crawl back into whatever hole you hatched in. |
The Zerg Overmind
Rule Reversal Dec Shield
537
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Posted - 2012.12.10 03:19:00 -
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FnStrabo wrote: Wow! Can I call BS on this guy ^^^
Zerg, according to you, this dec shield is supposed to get the griefers and aggressors. Funny... I know a corp that started an unprovoked WD. They were found using alts in another corp to boost/rep their pvp members who started the war. The defenders War dec'd the alt corp to keep them from being able to do this without potential for reprisal.
Guess who ran to dec shield? You supported the aggressor/griefer.
Your high ideals are just a bunch of BS. Your nothing more than a griefer yourself. Get off your high horse. CCP should just Ban you for exploitation of game mechanics.
Go crawl back into whatever hole you hatched in.
Quoted for the lulz Burn Highsec Griefers |
FnStrabo
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2012.12.10 03:22:00 -
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The Zerg Overmind wrote:
Quoted for the lulz
Spoken like a true troll of attention that you are. |
Michael Harari
The Hatchery Team Liquid
391
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Posted - 2012.12.10 03:29:00 -
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FnStrabo wrote:The Zerg Overmind wrote:
Quoted for the lulz
Spoken like a true troll of attention that you are.
Post with your main |
Hinsty David
I can't pronounce Bacaruda Dec Shield
0
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Posted - 2012.12.10 03:30:00 -
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FnStrabo wrote:The Zerg Overmind wrote:
Quoted for the lulz
Spoken like a true troll of attention that you are.
You didn't have to come in here and bring up the story, so.... good job?
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Surfin's PlunderBunny
The Python Cartel.
4106
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Posted - 2012.12.10 04:00:00 -
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Hinsty David wrote:FnStrabo wrote:The Zerg Overmind wrote:
Quoted for the lulz
Spoken like a true troll of attention that you are. You didn't have to come in here and bring up the story, so.... good job?
He's just mad because he's bald "Little ginger moron" ~David Hasselhoff-á |
Joshua Foiritain
Coreli Corporation Corelum Syndicate
139
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Posted - 2012.12.10 12:06:00 -
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FnStrabo wrote:The Zerg Overmind wrote:Hinsty David wrote: I agree with you but again I ask. Even if he WANTED to continue this.... what could he do? If all avenues of war dec griefing are closed, what are his options?
If he has options to keep using Dec Shield, they obviously didn't fix everything?
If everything is fixed then we'll make the public announcements, hang up the towel, and then go dormant until we're needed again. Raesha Nardieu wrote: You say you want to end high sec griefing yet in the case of my alliance *YOU* are the griefers...how are you trying to get matters resolved when you are snide and unresponsive to all attempts at diplomacy?
You go against yourself by saying you wish to bring attention to the broken mechanics and end highsec griefing yet you are guilty of the same thing you are so-called trying to stop and paint yourself here as being a sort of Robin Hood when you're no better than the thugs you protect.
I just wished to point out Dec Shield are not and have not been acting as admirably and honourably as they would like all of you here to believe and are actually griefers themselves that are further contributing to the rising ship and mineral costs by not allowing carebears to get out and seed our markets.
Snide and unresponsive? As far as I know I haven't received any communication from your corp until 20 minutes ago. Sending a 0isk surrender offer does not constitute communication. I am no Ser. If you are an aggressor, you are guilty. I hear countless sob stories from every entity without dignity. I had to make a policy to decline them all, else no one would be trapped. Wow! Can I call BS on this guy ^^^ Zerg, according to you, this dec shield is supposed to get the griefers and aggressors. Funny... I know a corp that started an unprovoked WD. They were found using alts in another corp to boost/rep their pvp members who started the war. The defenders War dec'd the alt corp to keep them from being able to do this without potential for reprisal. Guess who ran to dec shield? You supported the aggressor/griefer. Your high ideals are just a bunch of BS. Your nothing more than a griefer yourself. Get off your high horse. CCP should just Ban you for exploitation of game mechanics. Go crawl back into whatever hole you hatched in. rofl, welcome to 6 months ago dude. Dec Shield is the most effective anti-carebear troll in the history of eve. Random carebears read this topic, join dec shield to get rid of their war and find out that instead of being at war with 1 corp they're now at war with hundreds. Most end up disbanding within a few days :p
Yay for free war targets, nay for the endless notification spam :( |
Eram Fidard
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2012.12.10 14:42:00 -
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Mund Richard wrote: evening the play field?
=(((((((
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/evening
doesn't mean what you think it means...
try 'levelling'
edit: I considered making a serious reply to this topic, but thankfully I got ahold of myself. |
Raesha Nardieu
The Soul Society Pax Romana Alliance
2
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Posted - 2012.12.10 17:41:00 -
[504] - Quote
Raesha Nardieu wrote: You say you want to end high sec griefing yet in the case of my alliance *YOU* are the griefers...how are you trying to get matters resolved when you are snide and unresponsive to all attempts at diplomacy?
You go against yourself by saying you wish to bring attention to the broken mechanics and end highsec griefing yet you are guilty of the same thing you are so-called trying to stop and paint yourself here as being a sort of Robin Hood when you're no better than the thugs you protect.
I just wished to point out Dec Shield are not and have not been acting as admirably and honourably as they would like all of you here to believe and are actually griefers themselves that are further contributing to the rising ship and mineral costs by not allowing carebears to get out and seed our markets.
Snide and unresponsive? As far as I know I haven't received any communication from your corp until 20 minutes ago. Sending a 0isk surrender offer does not constitute communication.
I am no Ser. If you are an aggressor, you are guilty.
I hear countless sob stories from every entity without dignity. I had to make a policy to decline them all, else no one would be trapped. [/quote]
The Zerg Overmind:
If you still have your mails, I would like to call your attention to mails starting from 2012.11.22 with one of my bosses in alliance leadership.
Alliance war transfer From: Sent: 2012.11.22 03:54 To: The Zerg Overmind
That is the first contact we attempted to make with you and have been met with either snide remarks or silence at each attempt... the subsequent surrender offers have been everyday since the launch of Retribution... so again, do you wish to maintain that you are trying to resolve issues? Furthermore, your own reaction above and throughout this thread proves how snide you are.
Its true, we did dec a corp but as has already been stated, that was to even the playing field. We were dec'd by a corp, they had alts that were in a different corp who sat OG boosting, we forewarned them to stop interfering or become targets themselves... they didnt listen. As was pointed out earlier, you cant possibly know the story to all such conflicts and who are you to choose who is the true aggressor and who is truly guilty?
If you were truly trying to help improve EvE and be a constructive member of the community, you could find other ways to put your talents for hunting bugs and extrenuous testing of exploits to use and to cause change while having a positive influence on the game and the community instead of inflicting change through negative action. Have you ever thought about messing about on the test server and spamming CCP Devs with bug reports to get these things fixed before they're live and exploitable in game?
Oh and nice to know that one who has shown no honour or dignity himself in this matter is trying to play judge and jury of such throughout all of EvE. |
ZaBob
Twilight Labs Unsung Voices
283
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Posted - 2012.12.10 19:20:00 -
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NEONOVUS wrote: So if I dec some one to get what seems to be a dead corp dead stick pos out, and then they run to Dec shield it is my fault?
Yes.
You thought they were dead. You were wrong. Seems completely clear-cut to me!
Even an honest mistake, is still a mistake. |
ZaBob
Twilight Labs Unsung Voices
283
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Posted - 2012.12.10 21:50:00 -
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Eram Fidard wrote:Mund Richard wrote: evening the play field?
=((((((( http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/eveningdoesn't mean what you think it means... try 'levelling' edit: I considered making a serious reply to this topic, but thankfully I got ahold of myself.
Well, at least you were being relatively nice about it, so I'll point this out nicely...
Following your own link, I see definition #21 of "even" as a transitive verb, of which "evening" is the participle form, which appears to be the usage he was using.
Why is it that people who trouble to correct people's grammar on the internet get it wrong far more often than not?
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Tah'ris Khlador
Space Ghosts. Break-A-Wish Foundation
276
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Posted - 2012.12.10 22:07:00 -
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*Yoink* |
Tah'ris Khlador
Space Ghosts. Break-A-Wish Foundation
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Posted - 2012.12.10 22:09:00 -
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Raesha Nardieu wrote:Oh and nice to know that one who has shown no honour or dignity himself in this matter is trying to play judge and jury of such throughout all of EvE.
There it is! The tears are centered on this concept! If you accept that EVE has no basis with honor or dignity, your tears will flow less.
Sure Dec Shield is annoying, but I mean, come on. Zerg has clearly stated he is not making exceptions when it comes to releasing people, what makes you so special? You aren't RVB - Red Federation!
EDIT: Regardless, if you read the latest patch notes, CCP plugged the latest hole by allowing Aggressors to also retract wars that were mutual at any point. So we've boiled Inferno down to the Ally system when it comes to war mechanics. Everything else was nerfed to fix the glaring holes. |
The Zerg Overmind
Rule Reversal Dec Shield
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Posted - 2012.12.10 22:21:00 -
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Raesha Nardieu wrote:The Zerg Overmind:
If you still have your mails, I would like to call your attention to mails starting from 2012.11.22 with one of my bosses in alliance leadership.
Alliance war transfer From: Sent: 2012.11.22 03:54 To: The Zerg Overmind
That is the first contact we attempted to make with you and have been met with either snide remarks or silence at each attempt... the subsequent surrender offers have been everyday since the launch of Retribution... so again, do you wish to maintain that you are trying to resolve issues? Furthermore, your own reaction above and throughout this thread proves how snide you are.
Its true, we did dec a corp but as has already been stated, that was to even the playing field. We were dec'd by a corp, they had alts that were in a different corp who sat OG boosting, we forewarned them to stop interfering or become targets themselves... they didnt listen. As was pointed out earlier, you cant possibly know the story to all such conflicts and who are you to choose who is the true aggressor and who is truly guilty?
If you were truly trying to help improve EvE and be a constructive member of the community, you could find other ways to put your talents for hunting bugs and extrenuous testing of exploits to use and to cause change while having a positive influence on the game and the community instead of inflicting change through negative action. Have you ever thought about messing about on the test server and spamming CCP Devs with bug reports to get these things fixed before they're live and exploitable in game?
Oh and nice to know that one who has shown no honour or dignity himself in this matter is trying to play judge and jury of such throughout all of EvE. I did respond to that email the day it was sent. I replied with useful information summarizing the upcoming changes, with a link directly to the devblog.
It's not my fault you're the guilty party here. You wardecced and there are consequences (at least there was in Inferno, lol). Welcome to Eve. I'm quite content to make an example of your tears in the forums, please continue. A story about how you're a special snowflake I should make an exception for would be appreciated. And I'd be sure to pass it on to management for consideration.
Burn Highsec Griefers |
The Zerg Overmind
Rule Reversal Dec Shield
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Posted - 2012.12.10 22:42:00 -
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It's over now. CCP stealth fixed the third method today with the patch:
"Wars that are now made mutual will always be able to be retracted by the aggressor, even if the war is made non-mutual."
http://community.eveonline.com/updates/patchnotes.asp Burn Highsec Griefers |
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