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Emerald Decartes
Syndicate Holdings
35
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Posted - 2012.10.21 07:55:00 -
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Fear leads to anger, anger leads to hate, hate leads to suffering.
https://gimmebar-assets.s3.amazonaws.com/4eaabc354ad08.gif D.F.C.S. no TRUST in mankind no confidence IN goverment there will never be enduring FREEDOM. |

Isana Tori
What's A Paladin Dec Shield
2
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Posted - 2012.10.21 17:18:00 -
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My time bouncing around looking for targets is a patient waiting game. Most war targets to me are in fast ships burning gate to gate as fast as they can.
The other time I spend hours in traffic systems waiting near gates. It's almost as if being in perpetual war with no out has a draining effect on people. |

Kalel Nimrott
EG CORP Talocan United
69
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Posted - 2012.10.21 19:01:00 -
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There is no way that a wardec mechanics could ever work without someone finding its way with it. This way its the most fun, tho. |

Karah Serrigan
The Hatchery Team Liquid
74
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Posted - 2012.10.21 19:18:00 -
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Isana Tori wrote:My time bouncing around looking for targets is a patient waiting game. Most war targets to me are in fast ships burning gate to gate as fast as they can.
What else is highsec for? |

VegasMirage
233
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Posted - 2012.10.21 19:46:00 -
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Kc Decartes wrote:Destiny Corrupted wrote:Holy cow dude, you still don't understand what Dec Shield is for? ofc... trolling xD Guess my young, eager, starry eyes were/are looking for something more though.
0/10 if trolling you should be banned likes watching grown men cry-á (Gò»n+¦Gò¦,) |

Destiny Corrupted
Deadly Viper Kitten Mitten Sewing Company
1409
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Posted - 2012.10.21 21:03:00 -
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Isana Tori wrote:My time bouncing around looking for targets is a patient waiting game. Most war targets to me are in fast ships burning gate to gate as fast as they can.
The other time I spend hours in traffic systems waiting near gates. It's almost as if being in perpetual war with no out has a draining effect on people. You're giving the Dec Shield white knights a bit too much credit here. Without even counting the fact that they are outnumbered by the "mean war griefers," there's the whole "these guys aren't the average empire carebears" aspect of the conflict to consider.
Why are you not seeing anyone? Because the people you're at war with aren't the type to shove all of their belongings into untanked Badgers on autopilot to Jita.
All that people have to do to avoid you is to scout ahead. You're more than welcome to think that using scouts, which 99% of the people you're at war with do anyway as standard practice, is emotionally draining I guess. (USER WAS BANNED FOR THIS POST) |

Seraph IX Basarab
Vengance Inc.
46
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Posted - 2012.10.22 05:06:00 -
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Destiny Corrupted wrote:Isana Tori wrote:My time bouncing around looking for targets is a patient waiting game. Most war targets to me are in fast ships burning gate to gate as fast as they can.
The other time I spend hours in traffic systems waiting near gates. It's almost as if being in perpetual war with no out has a draining effect on people. You're giving the Dec Shield white knights a bit too much credit here. Without even counting the fact that they are outnumbered by the "mean war griefers," there's the whole "these guys aren't the average empire carebears" aspect of the conflict to consider. Why are you not seeing anyone? Because the people you're at war with aren't the type to shove all of their belongings into untanked Badgers on autopilot to Jita. All that people have to do to avoid you is to scout ahead. You're more than welcome to think that using scouts, which 99% of the people you're at war with do anyway as standard practice, is emotionally draining I guess. edit: I will admit that managing all those standings is pretty tiring.
Correct me if i'm wrong, but isn't the fact that you take the time to 'explain' all of that, indicate that there actually IS an effect on your behavior to such an extent that you need to address it here? No? |

OT Smithers
BLOMI
292
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Posted - 2012.10.22 06:20:00 -
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Random thoughts after reading this thread:
* Why in the hell did I read this. Don't I have anything better to do with my time?
* This sounds like a hillariously bad screw up on CCPs part. Left uncorrected this is going to continue to spiral out of control. I salute Dec Shield for exposing this as the issue it is.
* On the other hand, I can easily imagine quite few PvP corporations joining Dec Shield just for the targets and free wars.
* This completely destroys Merc Corps. It's more damaging to them than it is to high sec griefer corps. Bad move CCP. |

Destiny Corrupted
Deadly Viper Kitten Mitten Sewing Company
1410
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Posted - 2012.10.22 06:50:00 -
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Seraph IX Basarab wrote:Correct me if i'm wrong, but isn't the fact that you take the time to 'explain' all of that, indicate that there actually IS an effect on your behavior to such an extent that you need to address it here? No? I don't think so. That's a pretty hefty jump in logic. Am I not allowed to comment on something just because it doesn't affect me? (USER WAS BANNED FOR THIS POST) |

Reppyk
The Black Shell
188
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Posted - 2012.10.22 11:00:00 -
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OT Smithers wrote:* This completely destroys Merc Corps. It's more damaging to them than it is to high sec griefer corps. Bad move CCP. Yes that one. 
I haven't play last week, but last time I speak about it, 3 well-known merc corps answered me that they stopped declaring wardecs, and were just waiting for an "ally" contract. 3 positive answers from a pool of 8 corps. 2 of the other corps are WH mercs, the 3 remaining groups were the Marmitte (they are already trapped and well, they have enough numbers to deal with it anyway), a lowsec merc corp where the average SS is below -5 and my own corp, because I don't care that much since I'll be trapped sooner or later and I don't live in highsec. |
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Tah'ris Khlador
Space Ghosts. Break-A-Wish Foundation
220
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Posted - 2012.10.22 19:37:00 -
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A Dec Shield ambassador corporation has left the alliance we are warring. Not only do we get to continue warring those silly people, but now we get Dec Shield fun? BRING ON THE CRAZY WAR DECs.
Managing standings will be a ***** though. |

The Zerg Overmind
Rule Reversal Dec Shield
313
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Posted - 2012.10.22 21:30:00 -
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Tah'ris Khlador wrote:A Dec Shield ambassador corporation has left the alliance we are warring. Not only do we get to continue warring those silly people, but now we get Dec Shield fun? BRING ON THE CRAZY WAR DECs.
Managing standings will be a ***** though. Ya, you guys are trapped. If you ever see a Dec Shield ambassador corp leave your target, then it's already too late :P Burn Highsec Griefers |

Kc Decartes
Syndicate Holdings
71
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Posted - 2012.10.23 04:09:00 -
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VegasMirage wrote:Kc Decartes wrote:Destiny Corrupted wrote:Holy cow dude, you still don't understand what Dec Shield is for? ofc... trolling xD Guess my young, eager, starry eyes were/are looking for something more though. 0/10 if trolling you should be banned
Cry me a river with your w(h)ine.
Not to mention your statement in comparison to your signature is quite ironic. You don't like they way we play eve? You want big brother ccp to ban me... boohoohoo.
Dec shield is the troll.... I would normally say something like... didn't you know? We both know who's alt you are though, so whats the point?
Regards as always,
KcD D.F.C.S.
no TRUST in mankind no confidence IN government there will never be enduring FREEDOM. |

VegasMirage
233
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Posted - 2012.10.23 17:30:00 -
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Kc Decartes wrote:VegasMirage wrote:Kc Decartes wrote:Destiny Corrupted wrote:Holy cow dude, you still don't understand what Dec Shield is for? ofc... trolling xD Guess my young, eager, starry eyes were/are looking for something more though. 0/10 if trolling you should be banned Cry me a river with your w(h)ine. Not to mention your statement in comparison to your signature is quite ironic. You don't like they way we play eve? You want big brother ccp to ban me... boohoohoo. Dec shield is the troll.... I would normally say something like... didn't you know? We both know who's alt you are though, so whats the point? Regards as always, KcD
Wha dafugg just came out your mouth? likes watching grown men cry-á (Gò»n+¦Gò¦,) |

Cannibal Kane
Praetorian Cannibals
641
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Posted - 2012.10.25 12:37:00 -
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Isana Tori wrote:My time bouncing around looking for targets is a patient waiting game. Most war targets to me are in fast ships burning gate to gate as fast as they can.
The other time I spend hours in traffic systems waiting near gates. It's almost as if being in perpetual war with no out has a draining effect on people.
I hope this is your alt. Since you talk a far to big game for someone with 0 kills. Not to mention no kills for your corp according to EVE-Kill. Corps that are trapped in DS I see everywhere when I fly around and it does not seem to slow the larget corps/alliances down.
And as Vegas mentioned most 1-3 man corps are prolly alt of carebears trying PVP, he is not wrong. I say trying since your one if you have a Main for Indy. I am sure I will get trapped at some point but I really do not give a rats ass. I will just close this down and continue what I do in a new corp. I don't care about the number of targets, I like to focus on my attention on people.
DS is good for one thing... pointing out flaws in the system. If anybody believes it is there for any other reason they are delusional. I'm not a Pirate, I'm a Terrorist.
The Crazy Space Poor South African.
*Hair done by LGÇÖOr+¬al, because I'm worth it. |

Alekseyev Karrde
Noir. Noir. Mercenary Group
691
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Posted - 2012.10.25 15:57:00 -
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Has someone you "trapped" ever earned a surrender?
Question totally unrelated to the prospect of a war with a small group of empire PVPers who spikes with people unable to defend themselves every couple days. "Alekseyev Karrde: mercenary of my heart."-á -Arydanika, Voices from the Void
CSM7 rep, CSM 4 vet Noir./Noir. Academy Recruiting: www.noirmercs.com |

The Zerg Overmind
Rule Reversal Dec Shield
320
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Posted - 2012.10.25 19:05:00 -
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Alekseyev Karrde wrote:Has someone you "trapped" ever earned a surrender?
Question totally unrelated to the prospect of a war with a small group of empire PVPers who spikes with people unable to defend themselves every couple days. Sure, but we'd just use the fake surrender mechanics to steal their isk at that point. After a few weeks of being trapped against Dec Shield it's entirely impossible to release a captured corp/alliance anyways, since dozens of corps hold mutual wars against them. And I couldn't talk people into releasing them if I wanted to Burn Highsec Griefers |

Reppyk
The Black Shell
193
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Posted - 2012.10.25 22:30:00 -
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Alekseyev Karrde wrote:Has someone you "trapped" ever earned a surrender?
Question totally unrelated to the prospect of a war with a small group of empire PVPers who spikes with people unable to defend themselves every couple days. A long time ago, at least one year ago, I wardeced some indus bears. Their PVP corp wardecced me in return (onoz). Of course, I made it mutual. After one week, I got some iskies from one of their member and set them free... |

VegasMirage
242
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Posted - 2012.10.26 00:35:00 -
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Arth Lawing wrote:The Zerg Overmind wrote:
It's truly sad to see how fast we can spread these wars. C0VEN was at war with Penumbra Institute (a 13 man corp that was harassing them), and C0VEN wanted to pursue them into highsec for vengeance. Now C0VEN is trapped in 7 wars, and that number will only escalate. Any corporations that drop out of C0VEN I believe will remain in permanent outgoing wardecs, and never be able to join an alliance again (corps with outgoing wars can't join alliances).
The C0VEN war dec was a hasty reaction they made when we war dec'd their renter alliance I-BRA. We immediately made the C0VEN war mutual so we could pick it up at a point in the future, however at the time we had actually moved out to the Esoteria and Feythabolis area to disrupt traffic and isk making of their blues and renters, and to pick off juicy targets as they presented themselves. This was greatly helped by a couple of friendly and disillusioned corps in I-BRA and ROL, and as you can see from the kills it gave us a good ability to change fittings and ships multiple times, despite having no station access. Even giving us a chance to switch once to an alpha tornado gang and one shot a nightmare as it sat just outside its POS shields in P9F-ZG. We weren't even in high sec at the time of the war dec, and, as anyone who knows us can tell, we usually don't go to high sec very often. Theres no intention of us to evade their war dec by use of any mechanics, we're just busy and will pick at it over time and as we see fit. C0VEN has made no offer of settlement indicating that they wish to bring it to a close, so I assume they are happy to keep it running indefinitely as well. We will likely return to our disruptive ops around their 0.0 space very soon, maybe after that we'll do the same in high sec empire and see what juicy targets they float around there. At least in empire ROL won't be dropping solo supercaps on our cloaky nano gangs.
blah blah blah... blah
you have NO SOV, you have NO ISK, you have NO DIGNITY
you got your **** pushed in by TRIBE a noob alliance... keep the story straight please. Oh, and 1/2 of ROL joined them... derp.
to sum it up, you have NOTHING now and you moved to hi sec and ONLY now realized you're at constant war with a lot of people and the problem is growing... goodbye isk, goodbye KDR goodbye goodfights, GOODBYE Period Basis and Paragon Soul.
C0VEN, you may continue. likes watching grown men cry-á (Gò»n+¦Gò¦,) |

Miss Trapper
War Declaration Spear
0
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Posted - 2012.10.26 01:51:00 -
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I am so excited!!!!! Once Goonswarm Federation is trapped, maybe CCP will get off their butt and fix the system. |
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VegasMirage
242
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Posted - 2012.10.26 05:51:00 -
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Miss Trapper wrote:I am so excited!!!!! Once Goonswarm Federation is trapped, maybe CCP will get off their butt and fix the system.
you don't read well it seems, they are being protected by Dec Shield (quite the opposite of being trapped) likes watching grown men cry-á (Gò»n+¦Gò¦,) |

Xolve
Amok. Goonswarm Federation
1178
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Posted - 2012.10.26 08:33:00 -
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Miss Trapper wrote:I am so excited!!!!! Once Goonswarm Federation is trapped, maybe CCP will get off their butt and fix the system.
Actually- most bitter Goons are more than happy with the prospect of no more member corps.
Last I recall, we went out of our way to prevent people from joining the alliance; but you know, magical things can happen for a paltry sum of 500m. Inappropriate signature removed. Navigator. |

Karah Serrigan
The Hatchery Team Liquid
76
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Posted - 2012.10.26 15:09:00 -
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Miss Trapper wrote:I am so excited!!!!! Once Goonswarm Federation is trapped, maybe CCP will get off their butt and fix the system. We should have corestwo write an article about in on themittani, that sure will speed up things! |

Miss Trapper
War Declaration Spear
0
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Posted - 2012.10.26 15:45:00 -
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Xolve wrote:Miss Trapper wrote:I am so excited!!!!! Once Goonswarm Federation is trapped, maybe CCP will get off their butt and fix the system. Actually- most bitter Goons are more than happy with the prospect of no more member corps. Last I recall, we went out of our way to prevent people from joining the alliance; but you know, magical things can happen for a paltry sum of 500m.
True, I didn't think about that. Well, here is another fun "exploit" somebody posted over in Warfare and Tactics:
If you have a corp in your alliance that you don't like and want to boot, you can force them to disband their corp.
Step 1. Have your alliance wardec you 1-man alt corp. Step 2. 1 man alt corp sets the dec mutual Step 3. Boot the corp from your alliance Step 4. Have the 1 man alt corp set the resulting war dec with the booted corp mutual. Step 5. Have the 1 man alt corp unset the alliance war mutual and surrender.
You now have trapped the booted corp and they can never join a new alliance. There is no tracing back who declared war, so if you guys want to use some high level director spies you can force your enemies corps to disband before they can reform a new alliance. Just a thought... |

Le Prospecteur
T3chnicolour
2
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Posted - 2012.10.26 16:11:00 -
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VegasMirage wrote:Miss Trapper wrote:I am so excited!!!!! Once Goonswarm Federation is trapped, maybe CCP will get off their butt and fix the system. you don't read well it seems, they are being protected by Dec Shield (quite the opposite of being trapped)
Though GSF may not be trapped, am i right in believing corps kicked from Dec Shield can still join other alliances? If so, just create a throwaway corp, join Dec Shield, get kicked, join Manifest Destiny. now got the pleasure of both? Rinse & repeat every week/two weeks at leisure. |

Xolve
Amok. Goonswarm Federation
1183
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Posted - 2012.10.27 03:59:00 -
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Le Prospecteur wrote: Though GSF may not be trapped, am i right in believing corps kicked from Dec Shield can still join other alliances? If so, just create a throwaway corp, join Dec Shield, get kicked, join Manifest Destiny. now got the pleasure of both? Rinse & repeat every week/two weeks at leisure.
Actually- you are incorrect.
Corps/Alliances involved in a Mutual war can only leave that alliance, and only re-join that alliance.
Neither side may accept new corps for the duration of the war. Inappropriate signature removed. Navigator. |

Tetsuigablm
Lianowar Legion
0
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Posted - 2012.10.27 09:39:00 -
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So whats to stop people from just leaving the corp and making another one and starting the whole thing over, so some guy trys to pirate the people im with, so i dec him for it, and all of a sudden im the bad guy, they can just join your tidy little outfit, and poof were engaged with some ******** amount of people, your system is clearly working as intended.... |

VegasMirage
242
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Posted - 2012.10.27 20:23:00 -
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Tetsuigablm wrote:So whats to stop people from just leaving the corp and making another one and starting the whole thing over, so some guy trys to pirate the people im with, so i dec him for it, and all of a sudden im the bad guy, they can just join your tidy little outfit, and poof were engaged with some ******** amount of people, your system is clearly working as intended....
Since I allied with Dec Shield last year, I have "collected" over 60 closed corporations/alliances, +/- 20 billion in kills and nearly nothing in losses, a tear pool that's kept me subscribed through some terrible expansions and patches 
As a matter of fact some of the larger alliances have actually done exactly what I suggested previously and what you're on to - close and reopen under same name. If you're a true griefer/merc you don't care what your history looks like.
I just had a sizable alliance leader contact me in game via email and ask me to help him get his alliance out of the war trap. There's nothing anybody can really do once you get snared by Zerg. Not even Zerg can stop the hurt once the trap is set.
All Hail Zerg! likes watching grown men cry-á (Gò»n+¦Gò¦,) |

Vimsy Vortis
Shoulda Checked Local Break-A-Wish Foundation
877
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Posted - 2012.10.27 21:34:00 -
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Wait what, who the hell is declaring wars on people and has POS towers? Because you should tell me. |

VegasMirage
242
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Posted - 2012.10.27 23:40:00 -
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Vimsy Vortis wrote:Wait what, who the hell is declaring wars on people and has POS towers? Because you should tell me.
spacebears who think they're good... Noir  likes watching grown men cry-á (Gò»n+¦Gò¦,) |
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