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Tora Bushido
EVE Corporation 987654321-POP The Marmite Collective
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Posted - 2012.11.06 12:31:00 -
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The Zerg Overmind wrote: The Marmite Collective The Hollow Men Lonetrek Salvage and Scrap The Skunkworks Kicking Smurfs Spatial Distortions
All corps that are or have been in The Marmite Alliance...... We don't have problems with this war dec. If we stick to guerrilla war far, they will have issues. If we go fleet fights, station hugging......we might have issues
A good way to get better is to fight a good big alliance. And remember guys.....its a game My resists to bad posts are 78-89-83-90 ....... The metal head plate increased it by 5%.
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Reticle
Sight Picture
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Posted - 2012.11.06 18:45:00 -
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The Zerg Overmind wrote:TEST has just taken on 9 mutual wardecs of their choosing:
Manifest Destiny. C0VEN One. The Marmite Collective The Hollow Men Lonetrek Salvage and Scrap The Skunkworks Kicking Smurfs Spatial Distortions
They obtained these wars from Dec Shield and brought them back to their alliance. TEST is however NOT trapped. TEST are the defending side in these wars. So if the wars don't work out for them they can selective unmutual and drop them. I am surprised that they would willingly choose to have mutual wars with so many highsec griefers though. It will be quite interesting for the chosen 9 :P How did they do this? How did they manage to selectively choose the wars? I don't understand the mechanics. |
The Zerg Overmind
Rule Reversal Dec Shield
412
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Posted - 2012.11.06 20:40:00 -
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Reticle wrote:The Zerg Overmind wrote:TEST has just taken on 9 mutual wardecs of their choosing:
Manifest Destiny. C0VEN One. The Marmite Collective The Hollow Men Lonetrek Salvage and Scrap The Skunkworks Kicking Smurfs Spatial Distortions
They obtained these wars from Dec Shield and brought them back to their alliance. TEST is however NOT trapped. TEST are the defending side in these wars. So if the wars don't work out for them they can selective unmutual and drop them. I am surprised that they would willingly choose to have mutual wars with so many highsec griefers though. It will be quite interesting for the chosen 9 :P How did they do this? How did they manage to selectively choose the wars? I don't understand the mechanics. A corp joins Dec Shield, then leaves. They then set all the wars they don't want to unmutual, wait a week for them to drop off. Then they're left with only mutual wars against people they want to fight, and then they apply with that corp to their alliance. And 24hrs later that alliance has the wars of their choosing.
Anyone is welcome to join Dec Shield and do the same to selectively poach wars they want from our epic stockpile of them :P Burn Highsec Griefers |
Tora Bushido
EVE Corporation 987654321-POP The Marmite Collective
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Posted - 2012.11.06 22:46:00 -
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Yeh, same here. If you have a corp......send me a mail, join alliance and leave. Tadaa .... many wars for at least a week My resists to bad posts are 78-89-83-90 ....... The metal head plate increased it by 5%.
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Solstice Project
Carebear Cadaver Productions
2032
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Posted - 2012.11.06 23:47:00 -
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The Zerg Overmind wrote: A corp joins Dec Shield, then leaves. They then set all the wars they don't want to unmutual, wait a week for them to drop off. Then they're left with only mutual wars against people they want to fight, and then they apply with that corp to their alliance. And 24hrs later that alliance has the wars of their choosing.
Anyone is welcome to join Dec Shield and do the same to selectively poach wars they want from our epic stockpile of them :P
OMG !! O_O
Perfect explanation for what i wanted to know !
So i can hop in and out and i have 11k more targets to shoot at.
That's not a bug, that's a feature ! Inappropriate signature removed. Spitfire |
Bugsy VanHalen
Society of lost Souls
232
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Posted - 2012.11.07 18:53:00 -
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Karah Serrigan wrote:The Zerg Overmind wrote:Destiny Corrupted wrote:The Zerg Overmind wrote:Any corporations that drop out of C0VEN I believe will remain in permanent outgoing wardecs, and never be able to join an alliance again (corps with outgoing wars can't join alliances). What the ****, are you for real? Is that the way it actually works? I'm not into alliance stuff, so I don't have firsthand experience, but is this the way it works now? How is this even a thing? :\ I'm pretty sure that's how it works, but I haven't explicitly tested it yet. The more ways I carve it, the more ways I find our victims are screwed. If this is really how it works i see no future for your business because there is no way this wont be taken as an exploit and fixed. This is how it works. I am glad to see others also feel it is an exploit. There is another thread where a small corp Romanian Renegades I believe it is (a Corp founded in 2003) has been hit hard by this "fixed" mechanic.
They joined a faction wars alliance with the intention of getting into faction wars PVP. The alliance they joined then war deced a corp of their own faction. RR did not agree with this war dec and left the alliance. They had no say in whether or not the war was declared. The alliance leader does not need consent from the member corps to declare war. Yet they inherited the aggressor flag even when leaving the alliance because they did not support the war. When they left the alliance the deced corp made the war mutual and they are now locked in a mutual war and can not join another alliance. They were not really the aggressor and were against the war, but inherited the aggressor flag as the war was started by their before they left.
They do not want to disband this corp as it has a long history. They have been together since the beginning of EVE. Yet that is there only means of shedding this war they did not start due to broken aggressor flag mechanics.
I support Dec shield for forcing this flaw into the public eye. Only a few weeks since this patch went live and they have there first SOV holding alliance locked into mutual war. If this happens to an Alliance witha member sitting on the CSM you can be sure it will be fixed. |
Bugsy VanHalen
Society of lost Souls
232
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Posted - 2012.11.07 18:58:00 -
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Tora Bushido wrote:Yeh, same here. If you have a corp......send me a mail, join alliance and leave. Tadaa .... many wars for at least a week As long as you make those wars mutual before they notice and retract them I believe they will become permanent wars. This is where the exploit comes in. Only the defender has the power to end the war. Even if your corp gets the wars through this broken mechanic. |
Vincent Athena
V.I.C.E.
1122
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Posted - 2012.11.07 23:18:00 -
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Im wondering how much of this is really an exploit or different from "working as intended". Zerg talks about burning high sec griefers, burning corps, burning alliances. Maybe its all as planned.
Maybe that is why the expansion was called Inferno.
Im thinking all of this drama, hilarity and spreading of wars is exactly what CCP wanted to see. Greifers burning! Corps burning! Wars spreading like fire! Inferno success! http://vincentoneve.wordpress.com/ |
Catalyst XI
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
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Posted - 2012.11.07 23:48:00 -
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^ i believe its called "war aids"....... |
Nir Trild
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.11.08 04:29:00 -
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Vincent Athena wrote:Im wondering how much of this is really an exploit or different from "working as intended". Zerg talks about burning high sec griefers, burning corps, burning alliances. Maybe its all as planned.
Maybe that is why the expansion was called Inferno.
Im thinking all of this drama, hilarity and spreading of wars is exactly what CCP wanted to see. Greifers burning! Corps burning! Wars spreading like fire! Inferno success!
lol no.
then would been every (nearly) other feature of inferno a trap ...or even a lie!
Because the surrender mechanic, which should work for sure now is pointless like the whole new ally system...or kicking allies out of a war as soon as it would make mutual.
Because you can (backup) copys of your war.
And because a war should be something between TWO entitys ccp says: http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Wars
I like to quote the following
Musiaba Schenoly wrote:... Mercs and new ally-system are not needed anymore, gj! Just copy your war! Perhaps make it mutual and transfer it - to a dead corp or a fake alliance like dec shield - wherever you like! And the evil evil evil highsec griefers - ccp may ban 'em, hello kitty will prevail! - are stucked in an infinite war. Who needs a working sandbox, if you can trap them like that? You wd someone with something more than an one-man-and-his-alt corp? Fail! Forever no highsec logistics, no incursions with organized fleets anymore. You want to join a new alliance? Oh sry - its gamemechanically impossible! Because you have an MUTUAL outgoing war to someone, who get it from someone - who copied it from someone you never have seen or known! What you are complaining? You will get some notifications every day! An alliance with dec shields wars tries to recruit you and you haven't already outgoing wars? You could have such a fine and long war history (one or two wars may result in no kills and no losses, or even more than one or two? But don't care you are a fine pvp-corp) - just join! Ofc it will be your last alliance! Oh, what about joining any other alliance? You should be true - it could be your last again! Although they aren't already in dec shields wars: They got problems with you and want to make you never ever join another alliance? Np, they could dec an alt-corp, which makes the war mutual to boot you then, the alt-corp could set the resulting war mutual to the booted corp and surrender to the alliance! ( https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2099149#post2099149) And ALL this is NOT griefplay? Don't care what the initiator of dec shield may tell us here https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1957430 ! But nvm! everything works like intended: It may be the isk-sink everybody demands - finally, yay! Because everytime you decced someone or want something to do like discribed, the solution is soo easy (dunno who adviseed it anymore but makes sense in this context) you can always disband the corporation and reform a new one. Ofc that wouldn't be corp-hopping to avoid wars, what was already addressed in the past somehow. That all may seem a little bit complicated or even strange, but perhaps ccp could make an addon in the remote future, what advances highsec war mechanic ...oh wait.
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Andreus Ixiris
Mixed Metaphor
1134
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Posted - 2012.11.08 15:21:00 -
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This is a disgusting abuse of a bugged system and you are a horrible person for exploiting it.
You're also awesome and hilarious and I love you. Mane 614
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Musiaba Schenoly
FIRST AID SERVICE GROUP
1
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Posted - 2012.11.08 16:51:00 -
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The Zerg Overmind wrote:Dec Shield is back once again to use wardec mechanics to inflict grief upon your enemies.
The Plan: ...
Edit: Wording changed to match our forum rules, CCP Phantom
nice1, any other comments ccp Phantom? |
The Zerg Overmind
Rule Reversal Dec Shield
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Posted - 2012.11.08 20:14:00 -
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Musiaba Schenoly wrote:The Zerg Overmind wrote:Dec Shield is back once again to use wardec mechanics to inflict grief upon your enemies.
The Plan: Due to current wardec mechanics, ...
Edit: Wording changed to match our forum rules, CCP Phantom nice1, any other comments ccp Phantom? LOL, he changed the word ABUSE to USE in the first sentence. We just got trolled Burn Highsec Griefers |
Tah'ris Khlador
Space Ghosts. Break-A-Wish Foundation
237
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Posted - 2012.11.08 20:30:00 -
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I am presently initiating an operation to create a "Forever War" with a particular alliance of non-interest. I was decidedly way too giddy when I realized I could accomplish this task. This might be a sign that I play too much eve. |
Tora Bushido
EVE Corporation 987654321-POP The Marmite Collective
100
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Posted - 2012.11.09 11:14:00 -
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No idea why people keep calling this an exploit. Its an error by design. My resists to bad posts are 78-89-83-90 ....... The metal head plate increased it by 5%.
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Brib Vogt
DC-centre Destiny's Call
2
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Posted - 2012.11.09 16:46:00 -
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CCP Tallest wrote:Permanent war decs will be fixed in Retribution. We have made it so that in a mutual war, the original aggressor has the option of retracting the war. And by "we have made it so", I mean Punkturis has made it so. |
Tah'ris Khlador
Space Ghosts. Break-A-Wish Foundation
241
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Posted - 2012.11.09 19:22:00 -
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Brib Vogt wrote:CCP Tallest wrote:Permanent war decs will be fixed in Retribution. We have made it so that in a mutual war, the original aggressor has the option of retracting the war. And by "we have made it so", I mean Punkturis has made it so.
Can you link where this is posted? That is a poor fix, but I'd rather reply to the original post than here. |
The Zerg Overmind
Rule Reversal Dec Shield
445
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Posted - 2012.11.11 00:42:00 -
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We've officially crossed 12k players trapped Burn Highsec Griefers |
ZaBob
Twilight Labs Unsung Voices
272
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Posted - 2012.11.11 10:18:00 -
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The Zerg Overmind wrote:We've officially crossed 12k players trapped.
We also just got an interesting case. We just trapped "o7 Mate" corp against Dec Shield. But in the 24hrs before their we got their war, they applied to Dec Shield. Corps that apply to an alliance are still able to make outgoing wars, but once accepted they'll be trapped in permanent limbo of the "Accepted" state. Now this guy is trapped in that state, forever :P
It looks like they got unstuck? |
Kc Decartes
Syndicate Holdings
73
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Posted - 2012.11.11 10:36:00 -
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The Zerg Overmind wrote:We've officially crossed 12k players trapped.
We also just got an interesting case. We just trapped "o7 Mate" corp against Dec Shield. But in the 24hrs before their we got their war, they applied to Dec Shield. Corps that apply to an alliance are still able to make outgoing wars, but once accepted they'll be trapped in permanent limbo of the "Accepted" state. Now this guy is trapped in that state, forever :P
Nobody cares anymore Zerg. The exploit is about to be patched. Thank you for the ***** and giggles though, they've been fun.
Time to stop trolling and move on. This glass house is about to have a stone tossed through it's front door.
Cya around.
KcD D.F.C.S.
no TRUST in mankind no confidence IN government there will never be enduring FREEDOM. |
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Goonspiracy
Hedion University Amarr Empire
114
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Posted - 2012.11.11 19:44:00 -
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Dec Shield + Goonswarm. Controlling your game in ways that you can't begin to understand... |
The Zerg Overmind
Rule Reversal Dec Shield
446
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Posted - 2012.11.12 02:48:00 -
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Kc Decartes wrote:lulz From: Kc Decartes Sent: 2012.11.12 02:41 To: The Zerg Overmind,
Your ***** are falling apart. Keep in mind we told u they would, almost 4 months ago now. I wanted to take this time to thank you for the giggles you've provided.
Ofc though you know that I'll always market towards your down fall. I never said one word on the fourms that I didn't mean.
I'm going to dance with you well after the dec game has ended. As if I was not on your comms since the birth of what you made your name with.
Cya around hero,
KcD The amazing thing is that you STILL don't understand our motives
Kc Decartes wrote:Re: Re: lulz From: Kc Decartes Sent: 2012.11.12 02:47 To: The Zerg Overmind,
I do understand, only on a more grand lvl then you. In the long run, it is you who does not understand. Burn Highsec Griefers |
Kc Decartes
Syndicate Holdings
78
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Posted - 2012.11.12 03:04:00 -
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It just tickles me pink that you still care about little ol' me
xD
Re: Re: lulz From: Kc Decartes Sent: 2012.11.12 03:19 To: The Zerg Overmind,
Step outside of jita or 1.0 and see how unarmed I am....
Re: lulz From: The Zerg Overmind Sent: 2012.11.12 03:18 To: Kc Decartes,
I don't need to defend myself against an unarmed man
****** end
lulz
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7cufG2Dlxvk D.F.C.S.
no TRUST in mankind no confidence IN government there will never be enduring FREEDOM. |
Isana Tori
What's A Paladin
2
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Posted - 2012.11.12 04:30:00 -
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Do people not really get what we're doing here? Do they really think the fix hurts us somehow? |
Emerald Decartes
Syndicate Holdings
39
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Posted - 2012.11.12 04:31:00 -
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Isana Tori wrote:Do people not really get what we're doing here? Do they really think the fix hurts us somehow?
I guess time will tell... D.F.C.S. no TRUST in mankind no confidence IN goverment there will never be enduring FREEDOM. |
The Zerg Overmind
Rule Reversal Dec Shield
446
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Posted - 2012.11.12 04:41:00 -
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How are you still failing to realize that the announced fix to wardecs has been our goal THE ENTIRE TIME. We won our goal and you can't seem to grasp that. We've ALL won because of this. Burn Highsec Griefers |
Emerald Decartes
Syndicate Holdings
39
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Posted - 2012.11.12 04:50:00 -
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The Zerg Overmind wrote:How are you still failing to realize that the announced fix to wardecs has been our goal THE ENTIRE TIME. We won our goal and you can't seem to grasp that. We've ALL won because of this.
lulz...
F A I L
Nice contribution on your way out.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1NCV2vmQT_4
Say what you will... lets see what dec shield is in 6 months... lol
We are your future. Trolls that can see though your trolling and to the next lvl of troll-ism. I'm sad you didn't see this coming. You act so smart. You should have seen us sleeping in your bed. D.F.C.S. no TRUST in mankind no confidence IN goverment there will never be enduring FREEDOM. |
Cordo Draken
ABOS Industrial Enterprises
22
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Posted - 2012.11.12 05:37:00 -
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Emerald Decartes wrote:The Zerg Overmind wrote:How are you still failing to realize that the announced fix to wardecs has been our goal THE ENTIRE TIME. We won our goal and you can't seem to grasp that. We've ALL won because of this. lulz... F A I L Nice contribution on your way out. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1NCV2vmQT_4Say what you will... lets see what dec shield is in 6 months... lol We are your future. Trolls that can see though your trolling and to the next lvl of troll-ism. I'm sad you didn't see this coming. You act so smart. You should have seen us sleeping in your bed.
Hey Man, I admit that I originally misread the intentions here by Dec Shield, Largely due to not reading the OP and just posting my love of added targets. After clearly reading the OP, Dec Shield was providing us all a service and I applaud him. There are just those that have taken up on either side to grab kills on the unsuspecting, either Fail Bears or fail Pvpers. The truly sad thing is that CCP probably wouldn't have done squat about it if Goons hadn't been caught up in this effect. Now Perhaps that's a red herring, but even still with the slight fix... War Decs still don't do properly what they should! I.E. Promote combat interaction from both sides, Aggressors & Defenders. Until they develop a sensible system that does that, wars will seem lopsided to most. More work needs to be done... Another Team of Devs that PROPERLY understand what the community Needs. Casue they clearly missed it this time around IMO. eëÆWhomever said, "You only get one shot to make a good impression," was utterly wrong. I've made plenty of great impressions with my AutocannonseëÆ eÉà |
DarthNefarius
Minmatar Heavy Industries
439
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Posted - 2012.11.12 05:49:00 -
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The Zerg Overmind wrote:How are you still failing to realize that the announced fix to wardecs has been our goal THE ENTIRE TIME. We won our goal and you can't seem to grasp that. We've ALL won because of this.
You only won after the Goons got Decc Trapped trapped by Manifest Destiney Just like the last war decc change was instigated only after the Goons got dogpiled& trapped by Jade Constintine LESSON LEARNED : if you don't affect the major NULL Alliances jack won't get changed until after you do Meta-gaming for NULL SECCers: Whine on the forums like a little ***** until CCP gets sick of you and hands you everything you ask for just to shut you up.-á Typical NULL seccer whine: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6u299-o66wo&feature=related |
Juda Decartes
Syndicate Holdings
1
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Posted - 2012.11.12 07:25:00 -
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Cordo Draken wrote:Emerald Decartes wrote:The Zerg Overmind wrote:How are you still failing to realize that the announced fix to wardecs has been our goal THE ENTIRE TIME. We won our goal and you can't seem to grasp that. We've ALL won because of this. lulz... F A I L Nice contribution on your way out. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1NCV2vmQT_4Say what you will... lets see what dec shield is in 6 months... lol We are your future. Trolls that can see though your trolling and to the next lvl of troll-ism. I'm sad you didn't see this coming. You act so smart. You should have seen us sleeping in your bed. Hey Man, I admit that I originally misread the intentions here by Dec Shield, Largely due to not reading the OP and just posting my love of added targets. After clearly reading the OP, Dec Shield was providing us all a service and I applaud him. There are just those that have taken up on either side to grab kills on the unsuspecting, either Fail Bears or fail Pvpers. The truly sad thing is that CCP probably wouldn't have done squat about it if Goons hadn't been caught up in this effect. Now Perhaps that's a red herring, but even still with the slight fix... War Decs still don't do properly what they should! I.E. Promote combat interaction from both sides, Aggressors & Defenders. Until they develop a sensible system that does that, wars will seem lopsided to most. More work needs to be done... Another Team of Devs that PROPERLY understand what the community Needs. Casue they clearly missed it this time around IMO.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wjQdaPDdseY
You never touched us, nor seen what we could do, we were and are more then you could ever be, by via flight with this pistol
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