When SC has failed to destroy EVE or deliver a comparable playable game 12 months from now, will the SC zealots be crying about that failure here, or on the SC forums?

I thought espousing EVE's demise using CCP's forums was considered rumor mongering.

I don't think SC will make Eve players drop subs. I think CCP are more than capable enough of making people want to quit without outside influence.

No argument here. CCP is CCP's worst enemy.

I find it amusing however that in a thread intended to promote "WIS" the same people supposedly promoting it and wanting CCP's serious attention are also shatting it up by promoting an unreleased game and espousing it will cause CCP's demise.

When SC has failed to destroy EVE or deliver a comparable playable game 12 months from now, will the SC zealots be crying about that failure here, or on the SC forums?

I thought espousing EVE's demise using CCP's forums was considered rumor mongering.

No argument here. CCP is CCP's worst enemy.

I find it amusing however that in a thread intended to promote "WIS" the same people supposedly promoting it and wanting CCP's serious attention are also shatting it up by promoting an unreleased game and espousing it will cause CCP's demise.

There also is this game... say whatever you will, but EVE's "niche" will get a whole lot tighter in the next couple of years.

And this time it's not some Asian P2W second rate space shooter, but a AAA game by a man who already knew his trade when CCP was in college.

I mean cmon people, in SC you have a game that will have all the playstyles CCP has split into
three different games all wrapped up in one nice little package.

EVE has been in 'maintain' mode for a while now, SC has peoples attention, and some of my money, money that was
being spent on alts, but was removed when they made it very clear they were'nt actually expanding EVE anymore.

CCP has had plenty of opportunity to spend my money, but now I think it's time for me to give it to someone else
and see if they will deliver on their promises.

Who knows how SC turns out ,but they deliver something CCP promised to this game.
And after that ,promised to work on a prototype,but supposedly not allowed to show that to the community.

And besides if Chris Roberts deliver half the stuff he promised ,that game will rock
And if not ,we wait a bit more for the real honest game developer

Have you heard about carrot and stick? Now this thread is in a stick phase, and before it was in a carrot phase, and then after the stick phase ends it will be back to carrot phase. Positive incentive and negative incentive work together.

There's a difference between delivering what they promised and delivering what people expect. They say things like "epic space combat" and everyone takes that to mean something different. The number of hard facts we have on the game is actually fairly small and it's still really early in development.

Hey CCP... any comment on any of this?

Smaller budget, also still in development and not releasing till sometime in 2014 (at the earliest). Also unlikely to be on the same scale of universe as Eve.

http://community.eveonline.com/news/news-channels/eve-online-news/eve-online-winter-expansion-announcement-sep-26/

hang on to your plexes doods, dont unsub yet, here comes winter expansion EVE HallelujahGäó

http://community.eveonline.com/news/news-channels/eve-online-news/eve-online-winter-expansion-announcement-sep-26/

hang on to your plexes doods, dont unsub yet, here comes winter expansion EVE HallelujahGäó

Yeah. I'll either stay or leave based on what they announce for the winter expansion.

Years of "soon"(TM) has taken its toll.

Not my point... and EVE's budget at the beginning was 2.6 mil... I mean that it's yet abother online spaceship game with a persistent universe that maybe does some things better then EVE... there haven't been all to many of those in the last couple of years.

You forget in this reply the promises CCP made .

I wouldn't be too quick to laugh. Other things languishing under the title "Soon"(TM) include

- modular POS
- comet mining
- Direct X 11 update
- farms and fields for low sec (as opposed to moon sized ATMs)
- most of what was promised for Dust514
- update to planetary interaction

So go ahead. Have a good laugh. But do so in the knowledge that nothing that CCP says is guaranteed to ever happen, or if it does, to meet their hype.

Yeah. I'll either stay or leave based on what they announce for the winter expansion.

Years of "soon"(TM) has taken its toll.

By the time CCP delivers any of its Hallelujah plans on the 3 different game engines/platforms/business models alienated from each other, everybody will most likely be playing SC long ago.

Welp, they've got two or more years before Star Citizen is out. Overall I wouldn't expect them to deliver on their "Hallelujah plan" for the game at launch either, the things people expect out of them are way too much to get done in two years for the scope of game that they're talking about. If they pull it off I'll be pleasantly surprised, but the emphasis there is on surprised >.>

who knows,but at least the game is made on a good existing game engine

Welp, they've got two or more years before Star Citizen is out. Overall I wouldn't expect them to deliver on their "Hallelujah plan" for the game at launch either, the things people expect out of them are way too much to get done in two years for the scope of game that they're talking about. If they pull it off I'll be pleasantly surprised, but the emphasis there is on surprised >.>