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Tomiko Kawase
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2012.12.01 01:17:00 -
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So I was reading the new patch notes and...
Quote:Really? You expected us to just tell you what you are getting for Christmas in the patch notes? GǪ Carbon. That is what you get.
We're getting more Carbon engine stuff at Christmas? WIS confirmed for a Christmas release! Fight us maybe? |
KrakizBad
Eve Defence Force Fatal Ascension
1158
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Posted - 2012.12.01 01:19:00 -
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J3ssica Alba wrote:I might be bleating Oh good, we can put you down for a few hundred dollars donation then? Might be easier to simply transfer to a game that you could already dance in.
Of course since of course it's the VAST majority of players who want WiS and we 'anti-anything-that-might-involve-avatar-gameplay' are simply a loud minority, that kickstarter will be very well and quickly funded and you'll only have to invest like 2 or 3 bucks, tops. I'm sure.
If you donate extra they might give you access to a special dance move! www.minerbumping.com - because your tears are delicious |
Keav
BREAKING-POINT Primal Force
4
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Posted - 2012.12.01 02:00:00 -
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Tomiko Kawase wrote:So I was reading the new patch notes and... Quote:Really? You expected us to just tell you what you are getting for Christmas in the patch notes? GǪ Carbon. That is what you get. We're getting more Carbon engine stuff at Christmas? WIS confirmed for a Christmas release!
I noticed this in the patch notes too - I'm definitely wondering what it means??!!!! |
Bane Necran
Appono Astos
857
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Posted - 2012.12.01 02:14:00 -
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KrakizBad wrote:If you donate extra they might give you access to a special dance move!
I would pay extra for the Truffle Shuffle. "It's no use crying over spilt milk, because all the forces of the universe were bent on spilling it." ~William Maugham |
Ghazu
319
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Posted - 2012.12.01 04:40:00 -
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Sura Sadiva wrote:Ghazu wrote:http://www.eve-search.com/thread/42247-1/page/1#10 Sounds like a big barbie & ken emote wonderland, with bits of inconsequential pseudo pvp minigames thrown in. WIS is a project designed across the years since the beginning of Eve (had to be released with Trinity already but you cannot know, you wasn't here still) with different ideas, reiteration, redesigns: Ambulation, Wis, Incarna, Team Avatar... always been a major need and an hard challenge in EVE developement. But you are a character old less than 2 years, and for you WiS is a 2011 forum post. You're so young, nothing bad, but still need time to figure the whole EVE. Oh so with time I will learn to love avatar dressup and dudes emoting each other in a pretend bar as I figure out the whole EVE. There's this dude, npc corp mission superstar wrote eve-survival the whole thing, seems to think he has the whole eve figured out, I too can play derailment.
Barbiewatch is quite tiring, if your post was not Kosher it will be marked with a like. I will consolidate my rebukes every couple of pages or so. http://www.minerbumping.com/ |
None ofthe Above
370
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Posted - 2012.12.01 04:43:00 -
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Keav wrote:Tomiko Kawase wrote:So I was reading the new patch notes and... Quote:Really? You expected us to just tell you what you are getting for Christmas in the patch notes? GǪ Carbon. That is what you get. We're getting more Carbon engine stuff at Christmas? WIS confirmed for a Christmas release! I noticed this in the patch notes too - I'm definitely wondering what it means??!!!!
What is a lump of coal made of? EVE is a sandbox; The only "end-game" content in EVE is the crap that makes you rage-quit.
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Ghazu
319
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Posted - 2012.12.01 05:31:00 -
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Bane Necran wrote:Ghazu wrote:You barbie lovers Unless you're a female with a female avatar, which is doubtful considering your aggressive and abrasive attitude, accusing guys who have never created a female character of wanting to play barbie is hilariously hypocritical. Not that there's anything wrong with guys who have female characters, but glass houses and all that. But do I want to dress up and emote other dudes with it? http://www.minerbumping.com/ |
Bane Necran
Appono Astos
857
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Posted - 2012.12.01 05:46:00 -
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Ghazu wrote:But do I want to dress up and emote other dudes with it?
I can't answer this question for you. You must search your feelings and answer it yourself. You may find a part of you secretly wants to feel pretty and emote strange men. "It's no use crying over spilt milk, because all the forces of the universe were bent on spilling it." ~William Maugham |
Baby ChuChu
Ice Cream Asylum
547
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Posted - 2012.12.01 07:22:00 -
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None ofthe Above wrote:Keav wrote:Tomiko Kawase wrote:So I was reading the new patch notes and... Quote:Really? You expected us to just tell you what you are getting for Christmas in the patch notes? GǪ Carbon. That is what you get. We're getting more Carbon engine stuff at Christmas? WIS confirmed for a Christmas release! I noticed this in the patch notes too - I'm definitely wondering what it means??!!!! What is a lump of coal made of?
...more coal? |
Arduemont
Rotten Legion Ops
804
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Posted - 2012.12.01 11:32:00 -
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Tomiko Kawase wrote:So I was reading the new patch notes and... Quote:Really? You expected us to just tell you what you are getting for Christmas in the patch notes? GǪ Carbon. That is what you get. We're getting more Carbon engine stuff at Christmas? WIS confirmed for a Christmas release!
Well, the CSM minutes said they had 100 or more items of clothing that were finished but hadn't been released yet. Shortly after that they released 20 items. What happened to the other 80 or so that are done? Surely it would require little to no dev time to add them in?
I doubt this is what the Carbon comment means. I presume they are referring to the in-game item Carbon, which is in fact a lump of coal. The one that people regularly sell to daft Jita residence for the price of a freighter. "In the age of information, ignorance is a choice." |
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Bane Necran
Appono Astos
858
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Posted - 2012.12.01 13:55:00 -
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Arduemont wrote:I doubt this is what the Carbon comment means though. I presume they are referring to the in-game item Carbon, which is in fact a lump of coal.
I think it may be intended to have a double meaning, but now that even FiS uses the Carbon engine it could mean anything. "It's no use crying over spilt milk, because all the forces of the universe were bent on spilling it." ~William Maugham |
Davon Mandra'thin
Solar Horizon Directive
132
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Posted - 2012.12.01 23:02:00 -
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Arduemont wrote: Well, the CSM minutes said they had 100 or more items of clothing that were finished but hadn't been released yet. Shortly after that they released 20 items. What happened to the other 80 or so that are done? Surely it would require little to no dev time to add them in?
Seriously? If they're done, why haven't we seen them yet? Ship it! |
J3ssica Alba
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
551
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Posted - 2012.12.02 17:28:00 -
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Arduemont wrote:Tomiko Kawase wrote:So I was reading the new patch notes and... Quote:Really? You expected us to just tell you what you are getting for Christmas in the patch notes? GǪ Carbon. That is what you get. We're getting more Carbon engine stuff at Christmas? WIS confirmed for a Christmas release! Well, the CSM minutes said they had 100 or more items of clothing that were finished but hadn't been released yet. Shortly after that they released 20 items. What happened to the other 80 or so that are done? Surely it would require little to no dev time to add them in? I doubt this is what the Carbon comment means though. I presume they are referring to the in-game item Carbon, which is in fact a lump of coal. The one that people regularly sell to daft Jita residence for the price of a freighter.
I've been asking about this for months and months since they mentioned those 100 items of clothing. CCP should rename to NASA ... Never A Straight Answer ... This is my signature. There are many others like it, but this one is mine.-á Without me, my signature is useless. Without my signature, I am useless |
J3ssica Alba
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
551
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Posted - 2012.12.02 17:30:00 -
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KrakizBad wrote:J3ssica Alba wrote:I might be bleating Oh good, we can put you down for a few hundred dollars donation then? Might be easier to simply transfer to a game that you could already dance in. Of course since of course it's the VAST majority of players who want WiS and we 'anti-anything-that-might-involve-avatar-gameplay' are simply a loud minority, that kickstarter will be very well and quickly funded and you'll only have to invest like 2 or 3 bucks, tops. I'm sure. If you donate extra they might give you access to a special dance move!
I already pledged $250 to Star Citizen. If Eve set up a kickstarter for WiS i would drop in some money too. I'd pass on the dance move though, unless there is a WiS mini-profession : pole dancer =) This is my signature. There are many others like it, but this one is mine.-á Without me, my signature is useless. Without my signature, I am useless |
Jame Jarl Retief
Murientor Tribe Defiant Legacy
463
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Posted - 2012.12.02 18:00:00 -
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J3ssica Alba wrote:I already pledged $250 to Star Citizen. If Eve set up a kickstarter for WiS i would drop in some money too. I'd pass on the dance move though, unless there is a WiS mini-profession : pole dancer =)
You know, I was just thinking this the other day!
If CCP wanted to, they could very easily measure just how much people are willing to "put their money where their mouth is". That is, they could open a couple of kickstarter projects: WiS for EVE, FiS for EVE, etc., with very specific commitments outlined. Not some nebulous stuff, but actual, hard, well-described gameplay elements that people could essentially buy for EVE. And see what happens. If there's enough player support for WiS, people would raise enough money. All CCP would have to do at that point would be to deliver on their commitment within a reasonable timeframe.
So yeah, I definitely support the Kickstarter and WiS idea. |
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CCP RedDawn
C C P C C P Alliance
265
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Posted - 2012.12.03 10:58:00 -
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Hello again,
I want to say a couple of more things to get us on the same level:
Regarding the extra clothing items that have not been released, there are indeed a large amount of new clothing assets that just require publishing. Team Avatar got some of these out to you already but due to almost 100% of our focus being on prototyping we never got round to releasing them all. We were also waiting on a pricing structure being given to us. However, in saying that I know for a fact that there is talk internally regarding these items going on, so the when/where/how's are unknown to me specifically but I'm pretty sure you will see these items sometime in the future.
As for the Kickstarter idea, I can do nothing more on it apart from bring it to CCP Unifex's attention. :)
Thirdly, Team Avatar wished to publish a dev blog that showed the prototype that we worked on so that players who couldn't attend Fanfest got a chance to see it as well. This blog was delayed due to the team being re-focused and what eventually came out was a message from Unifex instead. It would be nice to still publish this at some point.
Finally, to try and make everyone happy, the gameplay prototype we created required the players to be in specialised suits. So along with new gameplay, you would also be getting various new clothing items based around Sites. So nothing casual and flashy, but various cool looking spacesuits. So technically you would still be getting new 'clothing' as well.
Okay, I'm spent for now but i'll keep an eye on this thread and try and answer some questions when I can. Most of the questions I have found on here are already answered in various other WiS themed threads however, so if you're unsure about something, just go check them out.
All the very best. Team (I'm not telling) |
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psycho freak
Snuff Box
30
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Posted - 2012.12.03 11:25:00 -
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Tbh id pay -ú30 for a wis expansion becouse it would add content to my game play but i wouldnt pay for the expansions we been having in eve latly nurffs and balancing wouldnt pay for that type of expansion
i firmly belive wis with content would be major boost to ccp costumer numbers |
Nick Rich
Republic University Minmatar Republic
15
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Posted - 2012.12.03 12:58:00 -
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CCP RedDawn I like your post and I like that you pointed out what we're all arguing. And also like to ask whether you like what you are doing here on this:
From Prometeus http://0.tqn.com/d/horror/1/7/a/6/1/-/Prometheus-02.jpg http://citysites.com.ua/upload/img/afisha_kino/gallery/kinopoisk.ru-prometheus-18556451338384033.jpg http://www.comicsbulletin.com/main/sites/default/files/shot/images/120612/PROMETHEUS06.jpg http://www.cinefilo.es/wp-content/uploads/prometheusleaked-7.jpg http://www.cinefilo.es/wp-content/uploads/prometheusleaked-10.jpg
From EVE Online Cinematic Trailer: http://video.sibnet.ru/upload/cover/video_571280_0.jpg http://campkenwood.ru/img/f5/f5f/EVE_Fanfest_Cinematic_Trailer_2012.jpg
These screenshots are very similar. There is a possibility the same atmosphere as in the movie Prometeus? Sorry for my english, but I do not use a translator, because I want to talk to you in the same language. |
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CCP RedDawn
C C P C C P Alliance
270
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Posted - 2012.12.03 13:58:00 -
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Yes indeed, the prototype we had created had a very similar vibe to Prometheus, but obviously not directly. Other inspirations included the Alien movies, Blade Runner, Moon, Event Horizon and others. Basically any film that gave you a sense of foreboding when entering an unknown area. Team (I'm not telling) |
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Nick Rich
Republic University Minmatar Republic
15
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Posted - 2012.12.03 14:44:00 -
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CCP RedDawn thanks for the reply! I would be very happy if we soon see a prototype. Sorry for my english, but I do not use a translator, because I want to talk to you in the same language. |
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Anslo
The Scope Gallente Federation
681
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Posted - 2012.12.03 15:20:00 -
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And when do we get to play this space suited amazingness?
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CCP RedDawn
C C P C C P Alliance
275
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Posted - 2012.12.03 15:40:00 -
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Anslo wrote:And when do we get to play this space suited amazingness?
Please refer to the original post to see my earlier response as to where we are right now.
Team (I'm not telling) |
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Pyre leFay
The Scope Gallente Federation
36
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Posted - 2012.12.03 15:52:00 -
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Can't the special cinematic clothing like the respiratory masks be made available as well of other suits, and should the prototype ever get off the ground, then these items sold via Aur would gain special function such as Dust514 bpo like suit status for early adopters whereas currently they would be simply cosmetic. |
Scatim Helicon
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1079
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Posted - 2012.12.03 16:36:00 -
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Sura Sadiva wrote:Scatim Helicon wrote: The dismissive 'space barbie' comments haven't been aimed at CCP or WiS itself, but at the posters who actually want WiS to be nothing more than a Space-Second Life where dressing-up their avatar in the mirror and /dance emotes in a pretend bar are considered the heights of compelling gameplay.
But all the WiS/anbulation/Incarna cycles never been that. None, nor in CCP nor in the playerbase never talked, thought or asked for it in these terms. The space babrie crap is only for silly forum trolling and just to vent some hostility/frustration in a game. You guys are victims of your own trolls.
Confirming that this post, where the biggest 'no gameplay in my precious WiS' loudmouth literally turns their nose up at CCP Bayesian's gameplay prototyping update, does not exist.
Istanchuk was the worst offender but there were a bunch of similar idiots spraying bad posts all over the WiS threads about how it needed to be social environments and dressing up games and drinking pretend-beer in a pretend-bar, and how including any form of PvP or gameplay would soil the purity of their magical Habbo SpaceHotel NeX Store dreamland. Titans were never meant to be "cost effective", its a huge ****.-á- CCP Oveur, 2006
~If you want a picture of the future of WiS, imagine a spaceship, stamping on an avatar's face. Forever. |
Bane Necran
Appono Astos
880
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Posted - 2012.12.03 17:00:00 -
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Scatim Helicon wrote:Istanchuk was the worst offender but there were a bunch of similar idiots spraying bad posts all over the WiS threads about how it needed to be social environments and dressing up games and drinking pretend-beer in a pretend-bar, and how including any form of PvP or gameplay would soil the purity of their magical Habbo SpaceHotel NeX Store dreamland.
Wow, you must have spent hours or even days digging around for that. And on top of it you play make believe and put more words in their mouth.
It's not really relevant to the discussion. "It's no use crying over spilt milk, because all the forces of the universe were bent on spilling it." ~William Maugham |
Dersen Lowery
Knavery Inc. StructureDamage
175
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Posted - 2012.12.03 19:14:00 -
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CCP RedDawn: Thanks for the update!
As far as Instanchuk goes: That was one player, not a movement. There might be one or two more, but I don't think they constitute a major constituency. I think I can say that most of us would like WiS to be like EVE because we like EVE. Otherwise we wouldn't be here--and it appears that Instanchuk isn't here anymore.
Besides, both of his characters had backgrounds as beauty queens, and any given pageant features enough sabotage, deceit and backstabbing to power sov null for years.
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Sura Sadiva
Entropic Tactical Crew
67
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Posted - 2012.12.03 19:52:00 -
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Scatim Helicon wrote:Confirming that this post, where the biggest 'no gameplay in my precious WiS' loudmouth literally turns their nose up at CCP Bayesian's gameplay prototyping update, does not exist. Istanchuk was the worst offender but there were a bunch of similar idiots spraying bad posts all over the WiS threads about how it needed to be social environments and dressing up games and drinking pretend-beer in a pretend-bar, and how including any form of PvP or gameplay would soil the purity of their magical Habbo SpaceHotel NeX Store dreamland.
But this is what we already have now, CQ. A safe, isolated place where dressing/undressing dolls and Nex Store; none (almost none) is happy of this, is something started and never developed. What people are asking is just to go beyond it, in the direction of an avatar gameplay integrated with the major EvE gameplay. It would be litteraly a new grow frontier for EvE but need to start somewhere, and the first step is having an avatar gameplay able to have a basic interact with what already EvE is.
beside this, is not that hard to find something stupid in the forums :) I wouldn't base my opinions about EvE on some indivual post or troll.
Finally, if someone is interest in WiS only as dressing/undressing stuff I dont see why to bother or how this should prevent a good gameplay development. In EvE - and this is the strength and true nature of any sandbox game - there's room for everyone to set their own path and fun; removing this characteristic means removing the sandbox nature. And be carefull if this happens then some other "sandbox freedom" will be eroded.
I wouldn't be too easy in applying a veto policy on each other gameplay; dressing/undressing dolls is not my thing, but well, if someone get excited for it there's room for them too. For instance someone else (many) consider wasting time bumping afk miners or bots in high secs as a boring gameplay for idiots but there's room for it too. Again, be carefull in not trying to enforce our personal idea of "fun" on everyone else or imposing vetos, because then it becomes a vicious cycle. |
Bane Necran
Appono Astos
889
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Posted - 2012.12.03 22:53:00 -
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For reasons unclear to me (possibly a forum ban?), i have received an EVEmail asking me to post this on behalf of Ishtanhuck Fazmarai, in response to Scatim Helicon referencing a post of theirs.
Quote:I have been tracking the forums prior to the Retribution release. Have noticed that the new expansion haves null avatar content as opposed to what was suggested during Inferno release stags -which is not a surprise. Also have been tracking this thread as CCP Bayesian and CCP RedDawn clarified how WiS is not going anywhere for a long while.
Neither you nor anyone have a clue on what I expected of WiS beyond of it allowing extensive customization, social player interaction and very specially to be something else than FiS on foot. That was the "fast and dirty, baby steps" approach i campaigned for, instead of the current plan to abandon WiS (and apparently avatars too) for 2 years and hope there's still someone interested on it after 8 years of not delivering and turning it into a bloody FPS.
EVE has got a magnificent, complex universe whose only reason to exist is to destroy someone's starship, preferably in inferiority, and call it a feat. And now the plans are that players can shoot someone's face too, if the subscription numbers survive to two years of iterating while competitors show up.
There are many things that could had happen in New Eden, and now aren't happening, and will never happen, that it hurts to think of the wasted potential. From blowing ship to shooting dudes. Yeah. We really needed a hundred Chronicles and 10 years of lore to get there, didn't we.
No, you don't now what I wanted for EVE. And it doesn't matters now, actually. But please, don't offend our intelligence, MY intelligence, pretending that I wanted WiS to become something neither me nor anyone else advocated outside of your trolling."
"It's no use crying over spilt milk, because all the forces of the universe were bent on spilling it." ~William Maugham |
Grukni
Shimai of New Eden
50
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Posted - 2012.12.03 23:12:00 -
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Sad to see that the future of EVE is headed to boring bugfix releases instead of new adding meaningful content. |
Scatim Helicon
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1085
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Posted - 2012.12.04 01:40:00 -
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Quote:No, you don't now what I wanted for EVE. And it doesn't matters now, actually. But please, don't offend our intelligence, MY intelligence, pretending that I wanted WiS to become something neither me nor anyone else advocated outside of your trolling. Istanchuk is right in that I and everyone else can only read their posts, rather than their mind, but those posts were pretty clear - opposed to consequential gameplay, vehemently opposed to avatar-based PvP, advocating 'drone-clones' or some such nonsense to make the entire experience as risk-free as possible, openly dismissive of the prototype Team Avatar produced from the wreckage of Incarna. Trying to claim that I'm putting words in their mouth is pretty disingenuous.
Its also greatly amusing to see that, after Istanchuk loudly and repeatedly proclaimed to the entirety of eve-o that they were quitting and outtahere and EVE IS DEAD, they're still lurking the WiS eve-o and rolling trial alts just to pass on messages. Istanchuk is like the boy who loudly tells everyone how terrible his ex-girlfriend was and how he feels nothing for her now and doesn't know what he ever saw in her, but can't help but brood over her Facebook updates and follow her around the college to see who she's talking to.
Titans were never meant to be "cost effective", its a huge ****.-á- CCP Oveur, 2006
~If you want a picture of the future of WiS, imagine a spaceship, stamping on an avatar's face. Forever. |
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