In a way, WiS could mean MORE PvP in EVE, albeit not ship PvP, compared to current state. I don't see how anyone can object to that.

lol
LOL...

Actually WiS potentialities and benefits both in new game mechanics/contents as well as in players/customers satisfation looks so obvious and huge to me that seems really stupid to not push toward it. Only reason I can see are technical problems or resources issue.

And finally, since CCP have already invested a huge amount of resources on the Carbon engine, i think it'd be nice if we actually saw some return on that. The :18 months: was bad enough. To end up with getting nothing from it would be worse. It's ridiculous to say that there's no gameplay possibilities for WiS - there are hundreds of avatar based games out there and thousands of good ideas CCP could easily lift and adapt into EVE.

Can you really blame anyone for thinking this?

Over the past 15 or so years I've seen so many fly-by-night MMOs, and since joining eve in 2006 I've seen many "death knell" games that were supposed to kill eve.

Infinity
Jump Gate: Evolution
World of Tanks
That robot one nobody plays anymore.
Pirates of the Burning Sea (this game had SO much potential but they screwed it up)
Matrix Online
Starcraft 2

... And
Black Profecy
Star Trek Online
SWTOR
Planetside 2...

And many other I can't even remember the title....

But this Star Citizen... come on... is not even at prototype stage. There's only a guy showing around a promo video and asking for money to start to work at it :)

Work that, in the best case, would require 3-5 years to see something.

Who knows ,maybe he is the first one ,that does what he is promising.
If he manage to make 50% of his vision real ,that game will be great.


Of course we can all listen to the promises CCP makes .


Oow and @ Bayasian that reply you made in this thread ,you could that do a lot earlier in that last thread you made.
People were calling me an negative idiot after i said Team Avatar is gone(my wife is laughing and saying ,but you are you old.....)

For those players who are not interested in WiS then, cool, they don't have to do it. Just like how current players who have no interest in 0.0 don't have to go there. Or wormhole space. Or low sec. Or high sec. Or incursions. Or missions. Or exploration. Or market trading. Or pirating. Or suicide ganking. Or hauling. Or mining. Or...

Nice post ,but saying this on a gaming forum where 90 % are screaming "you are not playing it my way,so you are an idiot" is a little useless.

[quote=Malcanis][quote=Herr Hammer Draken]...The whole idea of WiS is detrimental to eve game play. ... it occupies players that should be elsewhere, ....

except that you may not do PI but the guns you fit on your ships were produced in a pos and its owner had to buy fuel that were made from PI.
and nothing ever came out of dudes emoting each other

Remember how we had to fight to get back ship spinning? once in a while i like to take a close look at my ship, same with how i paint and look at my model Panzer IVs, but most of the time I use the hanger view because it loads faster.

I think the best way to issue a rebuttal on this forum debate would be to wait until Retribution is live, let CCP Fozzie's balances take effect, bookmark the relevant "development requests" and see how the vocal members of "safest most enjoyable experience in EVE is in our null-sec, you should quit" crowd respond requesting more balance changes so they can spend 10mins changing their spreadsheets for "influence".


This game wont get old, it's not only a classic but was and still is groundbreaking. Experience for internet gamers will make some people feel bored with any game, they either knuckle down IRL and forget they played games with massive internet trolls and stifled opportunity or they knuckle down IRL and pop in sparingly to enjoy their hobby.

I stand by this, I expect certain members of the crowd to develop past their adolescence and whine about how the game is broken prior to getting a life-track that "takes them places"

Having worked on some new build Factories as a security host / Site Administrator on over -ú100mil of project, reporting to BAE Systems, around the same time the RL Taranis came out I've got an experience affinity that I feel makes this a more enjoyable game for me than any other game possibly could be.

The paragraph above might explain why I really can't stand excessive amounts of "insert random unmonitored program for communication" requirements and threads like this: regarding "Anonymous Members" playing EVE.

I'll be patiently waiting for CCP to roll out WiS when they're good and ready. I'm looking forward to the day we can meet Dust Bunnies helmet-to-helmet (it won't be face to face) regardless of the amount of shooting that may or may not be involved. Simply being able to talk to people face to face in stations will be a great advance over ship spinning.

Keep up the good work, CCP.

I'll be patiently waiting for CCP to roll out WiS when they're good and ready. I'm looking forward to the day we can meet Dust Bunnies helmet-to-helmet (it won't be face to face) regardless of the amount of shooting that may or may not be involved. Simply being able to talk to people face to face in stations will be a great advance over ship spinning.

Keep up the good work, CCP.

keep up the good work ? the work on WIS is stopped and maybe even never started after Incarna.

and nothing ever came out of dudes emoting each other

They shouldn't waste time on WiS. We don't need another broken mechanic.

You really need to stop saying this. Your just making yourself look silly. CCP have already said irrefutably that any new WiS content that is added will have to contribute to core game-play. Everyone agrees that it should. Your saying this is literally without point and has nothing to do with the argument.

It's just not relevant.