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Arduemont
Rotten Legion Ops
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Posted - 2012.11.22 01:40:00 -
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For those of you interested in WiS content, like myself, you will be disheartened to find out that it seems CCP have pulled the plug on using Carbon as the engine for the World of Darkness game.
http://www.wodnews.net/Home/tabid/41/Article/750/exclusive-incarnacarbon-forked-between-eve-and-wod-mmo.aspx
Now, many of you will probably be thinking. What does that have to do with WiS? Well, for a long time we had been under the impression that the World of Darkness team were developing gameplay using the Carbon engine, which meant animations, characters, environments etc would be getting worked on away from Eve so that eventually when they were better developed and would be able to get generalised to Eve.
Because they have stopped using Carbon, it means no one is working on it. The Eve Avatar team have been re-assigned to making UI changes a while ago which means that now NO ONE at CCP is working on anything resembling WiS. It has been completely and utterly dropped.
Isn't this now the second engine you've completely dropped?
"In the age of information, ignorance is a choice." |
Jonah Gravenstein
Holistic Materials Research Council
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Posted - 2012.11.22 01:46:00 -
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A fork is not the same as pulling the plug, the carbon engine was always going to differ between the games to a certain extent anyway, the games differ so much in scope and model requirements that it was guaranteed.
Always bet on stupid, CCP can't patch stupid
Corporations Sales, hisec POS rights |
Holy One
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Posted - 2012.11.22 01:47:00 -
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They should have stuck with unreal or w/e torfi tech demo'd in 2009/10 that looked close to actually working and being useful and was suddenly abandoned for some in-house stuff they spent ~12m dollars on to bring us one room and a door .. |
KrakizBad
Eve Defence Force
Fatal Ascension
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Posted - 2012.11.22 01:48:00 -
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Ah, good. Now if they can remove it entirely from the client, you'll make my week.
www.minerbumping.com - because your tears are delicious |
Arduemont
Rotten Legion Ops
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Posted - 2012.11.22 01:49:00 -
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Jonah Gravenstein wrote:A fork is not the same as pulling the plug, the carbon engine was always going to differ between the games to a certain extent anyway, the games differ so much in scope and model requirements that it was guaranteed.
Yes, but if its a big fork, it will become very difficult to get content transferred from one game to the other.
"In the age of information, ignorance is a choice." |
Rengerel en Distel
Amarr Science and Industry
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Posted - 2012.11.22 01:50:00 -
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https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2023393#post2023393
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Xercodo
24th Imperial Crusade
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.11.22 01:55:00 -
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Arduemont wrote:Jonah Gravenstein wrote:A fork is not the same as pulling the plug, the carbon engine was always going to differ between the games to a certain extent anyway, the games differ so much in scope and model requirements that it was guaranteed. Yes, but if its a big fork, it will become very difficult to get content transferred from one game to the other.
I think the point of that little news tidbit is that they are abandoning the concept of them ever sharing the data and updates and just let them persist independently
Incarna is far from dead and so is the Avatar team. did you not see the massive thread they had about their in-house prototypes and play testing regarding out of ship exploration?
The Drake is a Lie |
Some Rando
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.11.22 02:02:00 -
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KrakizBad wrote:Ah, good. Now if they can remove it entirely from the client, you'll make my week.
QFT |
Arduemont
Rotten Legion Ops
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Posted - 2012.11.22 02:04:00 -
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Xercodo wrote:
Incarna is far from dead and so is the Avatar team. did you not see the massive thread they had about their in-house prototypes and play testing regarding out of ship exploration?
When I find the quote from that thread that says the Avatar team have been re-deployed into working on the UI, I'll post it up. In brief though, yes I am aware of the thread. You will see I have been posting in it relatively frequently.
"In the age of information, ignorance is a choice." |
Jack Miton
Aperture Harmonics
K162
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Posted - 2012.11.22 02:06:00 -
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Best news I've heard all year. |
Xercodo
24th Imperial Crusade
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.11.22 02:10:00 -
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Arduemont wrote:Xercodo wrote:
Incarna is far from dead and so is the Avatar team. did you not see the massive thread they had about their in-house prototypes and play testing regarding out of ship exploration?
When I find the quote from that thread that says the Avatar team have been re-deployed into working on the UI, I'll post it up. In brief though, yes I am aware of the thread. You will see I have been posting in it relatively frequently.
All of the dev posts in said thread so far
The Drake is a Lie |
Arduemont
Rotten Legion Ops
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Posted - 2012.11.22 02:23:00 -
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Xercodo wrote:Arduemont wrote:Xercodo wrote:
Incarna is far from dead and so is the Avatar team. did you not see the massive thread they had about their in-house prototypes and play testing regarding out of ship exploration?
When I find the quote from that thread that says the Avatar team have been re-deployed into working on the UI, I'll post it up. In brief though, yes I am aware of the thread. You will see I have been posting in it relatively frequently. All of the dev posts in said thread so far
CCP Unifex wrote:
So, all that being said, we have a great concept to expand the EVE Universe but now is not the right time for us to take that step. ItGÇÖs a step I very much want to take but I want to take it when it wonGÇÖt mean removing developers and focus from flying in space. So, for the time being, watch this space with regards to exploration gameplay for EVE avatars. The Avatar team will now be turning its attention to features it can put out for EVE in our winter expansion and beyond.
The Avatar team are not working on Avatar gameplay.
"In the age of information, ignorance is a choice." |
Bane Necran
Appono Astos
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Posted - 2012.11.22 02:23:00 -
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Well Star Citizen it is, then.
When that lands in 2 years this game will become a ghost town, so everyone enjoy the population while you can.
"It's no use crying over spilt milk, because all the forces of the universe were bent on spilling it." ~William Maugham |
Sura Sadiva
Entropic Tactical Crew
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Posted - 2012.11.22 02:31:00 -
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But WoD will never be developed, it was already clear one years ago after the incarna fail and CCP resource relocation. The fact they splitting the avatar technology IMO means they want to focus this developement for EvE/Dust only, more efficiently.
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Ghazu
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Posted - 2012.11.22 02:32:00 -
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The UI is done and the patch is coming in 2 weeks what is your issue?
http://www.minerbumping.com/ |
Arduemont
Rotten Legion Ops
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Posted - 2012.11.22 02:33:00 -
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Sura Sadiva wrote:But WoD will never be developed,
So.. why exactly are they paying a whole team with their own office? If they're not going to develop it?
"In the age of information, ignorance is a choice." |
Sura Sadiva
Entropic Tactical Crew
31
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Posted - 2012.11.22 02:36:00 -
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Bane Necran wrote:Well Star Citizen it is, then.
When that lands in 2 years this game will become a ghost town, so everyone enjoy the population while you can.
is still in found colelcting stage, will requires YEARS to produce some playable demo.
And is not even planed as MMORPG, is more like diablo, wher eyou play in insanced room with few friends.
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Xercodo
24th Imperial Crusade
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.11.22 02:38:00 -
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Arduemont wrote:
You missed one. The Avatar team are not working on Avatar gameplay.
You make it sound like Team Avatar isn't ever coming back to WiS lol
They aren't working o nit directly now but I imagine they're responsible for getting us something like the sleeve tattoos they've been talking about. And they're only bring brought away from their prototypes because their man hours are better spent on the current expansion.
Once that's over they'll likely jump back into implementing more ideas and starting to make something in Carbon. Gotta have something truly epic to reveal at EVE's 10th anniversary Fanfest right? :D
Still not concerned that WiS is dying off in anyway yet.
The Drake is a Lie |
Arduemont
Rotten Legion Ops
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Posted - 2012.11.22 02:40:00 -
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Xercodo wrote:
You make it sound like Team Avatar isn't ever coming back to WiS lol
That's not really what I meant. However, they haven't had anyone working on it for some time now. The sleeve tattoos have been a long time coming. So I'm not really sure how that's going.
"In the age of information, ignorance is a choice." |
Ares Desideratus
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.11.22 02:43:00 -
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Bane Necran wrote:Well Star Citizen it is, then.
When that lands in 2 years this game will become a ghost town, so everyone enjoy the population while you can.
Star Citizen is just going to come out and be mediocre
Just be happy with Eve cause it's the best video game ever created |
Remiel Pollard
Devlin Security
Devlin Alliance
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Posted - 2012.11.22 02:44:00 -
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Bane Necran wrote:Well Star Citizen it is, then.
When that lands in 2 years this game will become a ghost town, so everyone enjoy the population while you can.
You mean that game made by the same dude that made Wing Commander?
If you're expecting it to be anything like EVE, apart from the setting being in space, you're sadly mistaken.
You don't scare me. I've been to Jita. |
Sura Sadiva
Entropic Tactical Crew
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Posted - 2012.11.22 02:44:00 -
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Arduemont wrote:Sura Sadiva wrote:But WoD will never be developed,
So.. why exactly are they paying a whole team with their own office? If they're not going to develop it?
They already cutted most of WoD resources after the Incarna fail. They keep it cause is a prestigious brand, I think they will resell it.
Seriously, CCP is an amazing company, but they cannot develop THREE game at same time. They already struggling to release Dust, and keeping EvE on a mantainence releases level (Cruccible, Inferno and Retribution aren't true expansion, but just mantainence releases).
Not even Blizzard has resources to develop 3 games at same time.
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Xercodo
24th Imperial Crusade
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.11.22 02:44:00 -
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Arduemont wrote:Xercodo wrote:
You make it sound like Team Avatar isn't ever coming back to WiS lol
That's not really what I meant. However, they haven't had anyone working on it for some time now. The sleeve tattoos have been a long time coming. So I'm not really sure how that's going. Xercodo wrote:something truly epic to reveal at EVE's 10th anniversary Fanfest right? :D. We can only hope.
Yeah I suspect they might be a 1.1/2/3 feature of Retribution
The Drake is a Lie |
Holy One
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Posted - 2012.11.22 03:01:00 -
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Ares Desideratus wrote:Bane Necran wrote:Well Star Citizen it is, then.
When that lands in 2 years this game will become a ghost town, so everyone enjoy the population while you can. Star Citizen is just going to come out and be mediocre Just be happy with Eve cause it's the best video game ever created
Its called 'Star Citizen'. Nuff said.
You guys who backed this, I find astonishing when Elite: Dangerous is also being pimped and offers way more attractive gameplay concepts. I hate Wing Commander tbh. |
Just Lilly
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Posted - 2012.11.22 03:08:00 -
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"As a result it was decided to fork Incarna by the WoD MMO team and both teams are now working more or less independently from each other on a macro level. With much more effort on the MMO counterpart vs the EVE version"
May 15 2012 |
Ocih
Space Mermaids
Somethin Awfull Forums
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Posted - 2012.11.22 03:09:00 -
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The whole WoD to WiS thing was scrapped over a year ago I think.
Most are hoping Dust will intro WiS. |
Mallak Azaria
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.11.22 03:11:00 -
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Ocih wrote:The whole WoD to WiS thing was scrapped over a year ago I think.
Most are hoping Dust will intro WiS.
Scaled back, not scrapped.
Crimewatch 2.0: Protecting stupid people & rewarding lazy people. This hurts the smart & industrious people by making their intelligence & industry provide them with less benefit over the stupid & lazy people. ~ Ruby Porto |
Bane Necran
Appono Astos
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Posted - 2012.11.22 03:22:00 -
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Holy One wrote:You guys who backed this, I find astonishing when Elite: Dangerous is also being pimped and offers way more attractive gameplay concepts. I hate Wing Commander tbh.
Yeah, that's another one i'm watching.
Both these games know EVE is their only real competition, and they're specifically trying to blow it out of the water.
"It's no use crying over spilt milk, because all the forces of the universe were bent on spilling it." ~William Maugham |
Ocih
Space Mermaids
Somethin Awfull Forums
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Posted - 2012.11.22 03:29:00 -
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Mallak Azaria wrote:Ocih wrote:The whole WoD to WiS thing was scrapped over a year ago I think.
Most are hoping Dust will intro WiS. Scaled back, not scrapped.
True. They did have some WoD updates in last years fanfest so it's not swimming with the fishies.
I would imagine the 'doesn't work' part of carbon WiS was in dust and if they had to put us in a station with WoD carbon and Dusties in the same station with another engine. |
oldbutfeelingyoung
Perkone
Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.11.22 03:34:00 -
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Ares Desideratus wrote:Bane Necran wrote:Well Star Citizen it is, then.
When that lands in 2 years this game will become a ghost town, so everyone enjoy the population while you can. Star Citizen is just going to come out and be mediocre Just be happy with Eve cause it's the best video game ever created until 2014
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