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Posted - 2005.09.26 23:14:00 - [271]

The traversal rate of the gun is almost nothing at distance. Zero tracking means I was a sitting duck, where as up close they couldn't even hit me at all.
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Posted - 2005.09.26 23:14:00 - [272]

The traversal rate of the gun is almost nothing at distance. Zero tracking means I was a sitting duck, where as up close they couldn't even hit me at all.
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Posted - 2005.09.26 23:42:00 - [273]

I've done this missionand black arket hub in my Thorax a few times. The first section is pretty standard, but the second I had to warp out a couple of times. It's a question of finding the right tactics for the job, that's 'all'.
Setup
5x dual 150 rails
named a/b, webber, cap recharger
med 2 armor rep, 2 active hardeners, mag field stab, and a 1600mm crys carb plate.
Willo Vasquez
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Gallente
Raptus Regaliter
Pride - Honor - Duty

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Posted - 2005.09.26 23:42:00 - [274]

I've done this missionand black arket hub in my Thorax a few times. The first section is pretty standard, but the second I had to warp out a couple of times. It's a question of finding the right tactics for the job, that's 'all'.
Setup
5x dual 150 rails
named a/b, webber, cap recharger
med 2 armor rep, 2 active hardeners, mag field stab, and a 1600mm crys carb plate.

I make and distribute care, but I'm out of stock at the moment.
TIELKERON
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Posted - 2005.09.27 01:50:00 - [275]

Get a cerberus...Does lvl 3's any lvl 3's and most lvl 4's
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Posted - 2005.09.27 01:50:00 - [276]

Get a cerberus...Does lvl 3's any lvl 3's and most lvl 4's
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Posted - 2005.09.27 01:50:00 - [277]

Get a cerberus...Does lvl 3's any lvl 3's and most lvl 4's
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Posted - 2005.09.27 01:50:00 - [278]

Get a cerberus...Does lvl 3's any lvl 3's and most lvl 4's
DeathsDance
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Posted - 2005.09.27 10:07:00 - [279]

Hey,
i did this mission in a shield tanked jaguar. I found the first level really easy. But the second caught me completely off guard. i was set up for 11km shooting and i had inties scrambling me at close range (which i couldn't hit) I went down pretty fast. I ended up completing it in an armor tanked wolf. i think my problem before was the range and the fact i wasn't using an ab. with the ab the only things that were hitting were frigs and missiles. the misiles dont hurt to much and the frigs were tankable and easily killable with 4 200mm autocannon II's.
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TunDraGon

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Posted - 2005.09.27 10:07:00 - [280]

Hey,
i did this mission in a shield tanked jaguar. I found the first level really easy. But the second caught me completely off guard. i was set up for 11km shooting and i had inties scrambling me at close range (which i couldn't hit) I went down pretty fast. I ended up completing it in an armor tanked wolf. i think my problem before was the range and the fact i wasn't using an ab. with the ab the only things that were hitting were frigs and missiles. the misiles dont hurt to much and the frigs were tankable and easily killable with 4 200mm autocannon II's.
Deathsdance


Jatonix
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Posted - 2005.09.27 20:09:00 - [281]

Edited by: Jatonix on 27/09/2005 20:11:14
Edited by: Jatonix on 27/09/2005 20:09:31
ok heeeres what you do :

Throw your Brutix in da bin

Get a Rax and use following set-up
5 x 200 protos
ab II
cap rech
web

Note : i have advanced wpug level 4 so.. fitting might be limimted i dunno
medium armor rep II
3 x hardners
1 x cap relays
10 medium drones if you can
1st level just draw them out, and tank the frigates which you can kill VERY easyily, then deal with cruisers and then speed on by the sentrys, then in the 2nd level whip around to the left or right and drop the sentry guns or missle bays and once again move away avoiding the frigates and cruisers...
But ill get webbed i here you ask ?
well, with your 200ms and medium drones you can prolly drop about 15 frigates that started at 45km before tehy got within 20km tbh, use plutoium, anti and thorium and hammerhead and valkries


Didnt try with a brutix cause i wasnt gonna waste 30mil on a ship ive barely used, plus the drone bay isnt near as goood and the brutix is slower then the rax alot slower
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Jatonix
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Sebiestor tribe

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Posted - 2005.09.27 20:09:00 - [282]

Edited by: Jatonix on 27/09/2005 20:11:14
Edited by: Jatonix on 27/09/2005 20:09:31
ok heeeres what you do :

Throw your Brutix in da bin

Get a Rax and use following set-up
5 x 200 protos
ab II
cap rech
web

Note : i have advanced wpug level 4 so.. fitting might be limimted i dunno
medium armor rep II
3 x hardners
1 x cap relays
10 medium drones if you can
1st level just draw them out, and tank the frigates which you can kill VERY easyily, then deal with cruisers and then speed on by the sentrys, then in the 2nd level whip around to the left or right and drop the sentry guns or missle bays and once again move away avoiding the frigates and cruisers...
But ill get webbed i here you ask ?
well, with your 200ms and medium drones you can prolly drop about 15 frigates that started at 45km before tehy got within 20km tbh, use plutoium, anti and thorium and hammerhead and valkries


Didnt try with a brutix cause i wasnt gonna waste 30mil on a ship ive barely used, plus the drone bay isnt near as goood and the brutix is slower then the rax alot slower
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Posted - 2005.09.28 11:44:00 - [283]

easy mission in tanked retribution, just concentrate in second stage on npc ships they do most damage. But i agree to many cruisers it could be insta gank


Arleonenis
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Minmatar
Republic Defenders

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Posted - 2005.09.28 11:44:00 - [284]

easy mission in tanked retribution, just concentrate in second stage on npc ships they do most damage. But i agree to many cruisers it could be insta gank


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Toaster Oven
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Posted - 2005.09.28 12:09:00 - [285]

Originally by: Jatonix
Edited by: Jatonix on 27/09/2005 20:11:14
Edited by: Jatonix on 27/09/2005 20:09:31
ok heeeres what you do :

Throw your Brutix in da bin

Get a Rax and use following set-up
5 x 200 protos
ab II
cap rech
web

Note : i have advanced wpug level 4 so.. fitting might be limimted i dunno
medium armor rep II
3 x hardners
1 x cap relays
10 medium drones if you can


LOL, yeah right. That doesn't even come close to fitting Rolling Eyes
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Posted - 2005.09.28 12:09:00 - [286]

Originally by: Jatonix
Edited by: Jatonix on 27/09/2005 20:11:14
Edited by: Jatonix on 27/09/2005 20:09:31
ok heeeres what you do :

Throw your Brutix in da bin

Get a Rax and use following set-up
5 x 200 protos
ab II
cap rech
web

Note : i have advanced wpug level 4 so.. fitting might be limimted i dunno
medium armor rep II
3 x hardners
1 x cap relays
10 medium drones if you can


LOL, yeah right. That doesn't even come close to fitting Rolling Eyes
Mimio
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Posted - 2005.12.13 10:49:00 - [287]

So, talking that this mission is easy one and quite simple has no sense. It is really difficult mission for any unprepared pilot. I think that even BS with invalid will be destroyed here.

I had lost Ferox. Mainly because of absence
1. Experience. It was my first combat mission lvl 3 and it was my rirst real mission on Ferox.
2. Thinking. It is easy to scout mission using shuttle. Forgot about it and whenI noticed that ship is scrambled it was toooooo late.

So what could do young pilot witj 1kk *main* sp on Ferox to do this mission?
I am estimating next config
1. Warp core stabs in low slots. May be even four.
2. Tanking equipment in med slots. AB 10MN + med SB + hardener*2(therm+kin) + cap booster.
3. 5 assault launchers to wipeout these pesky frigates. Few rail guns which one? I have only med in skills.
First wave -
Step one:
jump in clear as much frigates as can and all intys with scrablers and warp out.

Step two. replace assault with heavy missiles and warp core stabs with 2*PDS + 2*BCU
jump in, kill all.
Second wave -
rep[eat step one from first wave. I do not remeber about warp scramblers but who knows - scrambler may kill Ferox


Btw, what is the effect of hitting heavy missile into the interceptor?

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Caldari
Free Space Pilots aka Banderlogs
Red Alliance

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Posted - 2005.12.13 10:49:00 - [288]

So, talking that this mission is easy one and quite simple has no sense. It is really difficult mission for any unprepared pilot. I think that even BS with invalid will be destroyed here.

I had lost Ferox. Mainly because of absence
1. Experience. It was my first combat mission lvl 3 and it was my rirst real mission on Ferox.
2. Thinking. It is easy to scout mission using shuttle. Forgot about it and whenI noticed that ship is scrambled it was toooooo late.

So what could do young pilot witj 1kk *main* sp on Ferox to do this mission?
I am estimating next config
1. Warp core stabs in low slots. May be even four.
2. Tanking equipment in med slots. AB 10MN + med SB + hardener*2(therm+kin) + cap booster.
3. 5 assault launchers to wipeout these pesky frigates. Few rail guns which one? I have only med in skills.
First wave -
Step one:
jump in clear as much frigates as can and all intys with scrablers and warp out.

Step two. replace assault with heavy missiles and warp core stabs with 2*PDS + 2*BCU
jump in, kill all.
Second wave -
rep[eat step one from first wave. I do not remeber about warp scramblers but who knows - scrambler may kill Ferox


Btw, what is the effect of hitting heavy missile into the interceptor?

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Posted - 2005.12.13 17:08:00 - [289]

This is the second easiest mission I've done! I really don't know why but I didn't use my shield booster once in the first stage.

I warped in, took out the nearest group then everything aggroed me. Killed everything as they approached at 58km (range of my heavies) including the frigates, took out the missile sentries, spent ages travelling to the next accel gate.

In the last stage, I took out the two sentries, then the two erasers, the two heavy sentries the nihilist and the terrorist and mission done ... simple as!

Running

5 * T2 Heavy Launchers
2 * Prototype 150mm Rails

1 * Large T2 SB
3 * T2 Hardeners (Kin/Kin/Thrm)
1 * X5 Webber

4 * T2 PDU's



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Caldari
Incoherent Inc

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Posted - 2005.12.13 17:08:00 - [290]

This is the second easiest mission I've done! I really don't know why but I didn't use my shield booster once in the first stage.

I warped in, took out the nearest group then everything aggroed me. Killed everything as they approached at 58km (range of my heavies) including the frigates, took out the missile sentries, spent ages travelling to the next accel gate.

In the last stage, I took out the two sentries, then the two erasers, the two heavy sentries the nihilist and the terrorist and mission done ... simple as!

Running

5 * T2 Heavy Launchers
2 * Prototype 150mm Rails

1 * Large T2 SB
3 * T2 Hardeners (Kin/Kin/Thrm)
1 * X5 Webber

4 * T2 PDU's


M00dy
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Posted - 2005.12.13 19:32:00 - [291]

Please post a good set up for this mission in a Cyclone Thanx.
M00dy
M00dy
North Face Force
Anarchy Empire

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Posted - 2005.12.13 19:32:00 - [292]

Edited by: M00dy on 18/12/2005 23:48:20


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Posted - 2005.12.18 23:50:00 - [293]

With the Angels getting changed a bit in RMR, I was wondering what hardners to use in this mission in my Cyclone?

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North Face Force
Anarchy Empire

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Posted - 2005.12.18 23:50:00 - [294]

With the Angels getting changed a bit in RMR, I was wondering what hardners to use in this mission in my Cyclone?


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Szordin
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Posted - 2005.12.19 05:06:00 - [295]

Well I think the dev post said all angel missiles will be explosive, and most of their damage is explosive/kinetic.

So I would setup for that.

This is definately one of the hardest lvl 3 missions. I did it in a shield tanked jag once, but now I don't mess around with it anymore, I just use my raven its not too bad if you know what to expect, and have setup your ship properly. Otherwise it can be a bit painful.


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Posted - 2005.12.19 05:06:00 - [296]

Well I think the dev post said all angel missiles will be explosive, and most of their damage is explosive/kinetic.

So I would setup for that.

This is definately one of the hardest lvl 3 missions. I did it in a shield tanked jag once, but now I don't mess around with it anymore, I just use my raven its not too bad if you know what to expect, and have setup your ship properly. Otherwise it can be a bit painful.


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Posted - 2005.12.19 09:05:00 - [297]

I use Muninn and few times I needed to warp out while they breaked my shield tank.
First I shoot down Heavy launchers then Cruisers and if I'm lucky with my tank I start to shooting at sentries.

Half of this missions I need to warp away and get back.
When I get webbed it is usualy when I need to run.

btw. lvl3 missions = WCS on (I keep to this rule ;) with success)
Soulita
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Posted - 2005.12.19 09:05:00 - [298]

Originally by: Dirus
...450 damage seems quite high tho, mine only hit at 50-100.


Hits to the hull will cause higher damage then hits to shield/armor since the hull is not protected by the armor/shield hardeners you probably are running.

Soulita
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Gallente
Inner Core

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Posted - 2005.12.19 09:05:00 - [299]

Originally by: Dirus
...450 damage seems quite high tho, mine only hit at 50-100.


Hits to the hull will cause higher damage then hits to shield/armor since the hull is not protected by the armor/shield hardeners you probably are running.

Akip
Akip
MetaForge
Imperial Republic Of the North

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Posted - 2005.12.19 09:05:00 - [300]

I use Muninn and few times I needed to warp out while they breaked my shield tank.
First I shoot down Heavy launchers then Cruisers and if I'm lucky with my tank I start to shooting at sentries.

Half of this missions I need to warp away and get back.
When I get webbed it is usualy when I need to run.

btw. lvl3 missions = WCS on (I keep to this rule ;) with success)

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